R33 GTR vs GTS brake calipers

[aardvark]

how do i tell the difference between the r33 gtr calipers and the r33 gts calipers? correct me if i'm wrong, but the gtr uses a 324mm rotor, where the gts has a 300mm rotor.

[racepar1]

The R33 GTR came standard with brembo's didn't they?

[renegade_ewok]

The R33 GTR came standard with brembo's didn't they?
Yes.

My friend has GTS-T brakes on his 240 and they are indeed bigger than Z32 brakes (by a good bit, these things are beefy as fuck) but I don't know the rotor size comparison to the brembo setup on the GT-Rs. To be honest, a GTS-T setup stops on a fuckin' dime and any more will either pull your teeth out if you have slicks all around or you will just lock up with anything less. Hell, Z32 setup can lock up tires going 30 if you slam the brakes. There really isn't a need for a brembo setup, but hey if you got your hands on some go to it.

[racer98]

how do i tell the difference between the r33 gtr calipers and the r33 gts calipers? correct me if i'm wrong, but the gtr uses a 324mm rotor, where the gts has a 300mm rotor.


there are a couple of models to choose from


R33 GT base 4lug

R33 GT-S base + has a 4piston caliper

R33 GT-S T same as above

R33 GTS-T (Type-M) This is a large sumutomo caliper with a 310mm rotor

R33 GT-R base same as above but never seen one like this

R33 GT-R Vspec - Brembo

but I might be wrong.

[drift freaq]

R32 GTR used similar calipers to the ones that come on the R33 GTST. though the 32GTR came with a 32mm rotor and the 33 GTST had a 30 milmeter. The piston sizes were the same though.

R32GTR V spec used a Brembo as well as far as I know R33 GTR came with Brembo's

These are Fronts I am talking about not rears.

[Katsumbhong]

there are a couple of models to choose from


R33 GT base 4lug

R33 GT-S base + has a 4piston caliper

R33 GT-S T same as above

R33 GTS-T (Type-M) This is a large sumutomo caliper with a 310mm rotor

R33 GT-R base same as above but never seen one like this

R33 GT-R Vspec - Brembo

but I might be wrong.

R32 GTR used the same caliper that comes on the R33 GTST. R32GTR V spec used a Brembo which wound up coming on R33 GTR's


All 2-piston rear brakes (Z32, R32 Turbo GTST, R33 GTS25t, etc) are the same (except for Brembos that come on the VSpec GTR's)


FRONT BRAKES

-R32 non turbo used 4-lug brakes that are similar to the S13/180sx and S14 Q's

-R32 Turbo GTS-T has 4-piston calipers (AFAIK the same as Z32, don't remember, if it's turbo or non turbo)

-R33 non turbo (4-lug) uses a twin piston floating caliper which is an upgrade for stock 180sx/S13 and S14 Q. The Rotor is exactly the same as the R32 GST-T except it is 4-lug

-R33 GTS25-t uses 5-lug brakes, the Rotors are larger than the R32 GTS-T and the caliper is still a 4-piston unit but is designed differently.

-R32 GTR Non-VSpec has larger rotors and calipers than the R32 and R33 turbo, and come with XDrilled and slotted rotors.



I'M GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION first hand. I have worked, installed, collected, and sold many Nissan brakes while I was stationed in Okinawa.


R32 GTR Non-Vspec
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES11.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES111.jpg


R33 GTS25-t
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES2.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES22.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES222.jpg

[Heatw]

r33 gts-t rotors are 296x30

r32 GTR rotors are 296x32

you could use r32 gtr rotors in a r33 caliper.. tho they aren't the same, they might as well be, uses the same pads etc.

[drift freaq]

All 2-piston rear brakes (Z32, R32 Turbo GTST, R33 GTS25t, etc) are the same (except for Brembos that come on the VSpec GTR's)


FRONT BRAKES

-R32 non turbo used 4-lug brakes that are similar to the S13/180sx and S14 Q's

-R32 Turbo GTS-T has 4-piston calipers (AFAIK the same as Z32, don't remember, if it's turbo or non turbo)

-R33 non turbo (4-lug) uses a twin piston floating caliper which is an upgrade for stock 180sx/S13 and S14 Q. The Rotor is exactly the same as the R32 GST-T except it is 4-lug

-R33 GTS25-t uses 5-lug brakes, the Rotors are larger than the R32 GTS-T and the caliper is still a 4-piston unit but is designed differently.

-R32 GTR Non-VSpec has larger rotors and calipers than the R32 and R33 turbo, and come with XDrilled and slotted rotors.



I'M GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION first hand. I have worked, installed, collected, and sold many Nissan brakes while I was stationed in Okinawa.


R32 GTR Non-Vspec
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES11.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES111.jpg


R33 GTS25-t
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES2.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES22.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/Guild_of_Gravity/Zeroyon/BRAKES222.jpg
your are basically splitting hairs here. Fact is the The R32 GTR Caliper is the exact same physical piston size and as the R33 GTST. The Caliper may look slightly different but its going to use the same pads. Also as someone else stated above there is 2mm difference in rotor thickness. That is all.

I appreciate what your posting but please don't misconstrue what I was saying. I should have put I am talking about fronts not rear. Now if the R33 GTR did not come with Brembo fronts feel free to correct me. Though I am not talking about the rear calipers here.

I might add Nissan is known for sticking Brembo calipers on the front of some of their cars but not in the rear i.e. Sentra SER V spec.

[lflkajfj12123]

who cares about stopping

i just want r33 brembo's for the streeeet cred

[articdragon192]

FYI, Z32 calipers are different from the R-chassis. The mounting ears on the R-chassis calipers are bigger, pushing out the caliper allowing it to use a bigger rotor. However, pad size is the same.

[5t341tH]

heres a quick list

R32 T : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTS-T (early) : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTS-T type m : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTR : 296mm x 32mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTR VSPEC : 324mm x 30mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R33 GTS-25 : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTS-4 : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTS-25T : 296mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTR : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R33 GTR VSPEC : 324mm x 30mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R34 GT : 296mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R34 GTT : 310mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R34 GTR : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
Z33 NA : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
Z32 NA : 280mm x 26mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
Z32 TT : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot ali sumitomo caliper)
S14, S15 : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)

[racer98]

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Thanks for the post would you mind reading the post before you start calling me out on something else.

[racer98]

Though I am not talking about the rear calipers here.

+1 when I read the anatomy of the 1st post you made it clear what you were talking about and I added what info I could share for you project.


let me know what else happens with the research your doing with the brakes.


Got myself a set of R35 GT-R brembo's F/R and working on ways to keep it in a 17in rim.

[racer98]

heres a quick list

R32 T : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTS-T (early) : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTS-T type m : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTR : 296mm x 32mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R32 GTR VSPEC : 324mm x 30mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R33 GTS-25 : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTS-4 : 280mm x 26mm (single pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTS-25T : 296mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R33 GTR : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R33 GTR VSPEC : 324mm x 30mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
R34 GT : 296mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R34 GTT : 310mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
R34 GTR : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
Z33 NA : 324mm x 32mm (4 pot brembo caliper)
Z32 NA : 280mm x 26mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)
Z32 TT : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot ali sumitomo caliper)
S14, S15 : 280mm x 30mm (4 pot sumitomo caliper)


now that is some goood info ! :)

[aardvark]

now that is some goood info ! :)

FINALLY! been looking for that thorough list on the net forever, and a day.

[aardvark]

thanks for the pics katsumbhong. i knew about the two different calipers but, i didnt know which models they were for, and if they used different size rotors. so its just a 2mm thickness difference huh. how available are these non-USDM rotors (ie 296mm, 310mm)?

[slider2828]

Yah I wonder how available are these rotors

[Brian]

who cares about stopping

i just want r33 brembo's for the streeeet cred


That is the TRUTH.

[SRpetey]

www.dba.com.au (http://www.dba.com.au) has all rotor demensions in their catalog for any make and model and www.buybrakes.com (http://www.buybrakes.com) has skyline rotors and I think its free shipping.

[slider2828]

Thanks I will remember that

[Z33dori]

so has anyone found a cheaper place to find rotors for the gtst calipers.

i priced out some DBA slotted(cheapes ones from buybrakes.com) and they were 324 bucks....

is there no where to just get some oem rotors, or some similar sized oems rotors from another car.

[Mirage]

good luck with that, I got tired of looking and finally bought DBA's from buybrakes. Supposedly IS300 rotors are the same diameter but the caliper needs to have spacers/washers to make the offset fit. One of the socal nissan dealers had oem r32 gt-r rotors closed out awhile ago, drilled and blanks, for cheap, but they are 32mm vs 30mm, that and I found them after I had already got mine.

[Z33dori]

i just can't see myself spending that much on rotors.... specially since i only paid 170 for the calipers.

i'll prolly just buy some R32GTR rotors and shave them down, since i can do it myself for free. but it depends on the cost

[Mirage]

Wouldn't it be easier to trade your calipers for some Z32 ones then if rotor replacement cost is an issue? You might be able to get a 32mm one in there, but mine were pretty tight with new pads on the 30mm's.

[Brian]

for what it's worth.

I got brand new GTR32 rotors from Performance Nissan in Duarte.
The drilled ones even.

I bet they could help you out.
THe other option for me would be to go to

ENDLESS

or

Project Mu.


You are probably going to have to pay a lot, but at least they will be badass.

For some reason R32 GTR rotors (endless) are SUPER expensive.

[bblack_91240]

for what it's worth.

I got brand new GTR32 rotors from Performance Nissan in Duarte.
The drilled ones even.

mynismo.com is the website. They're listed at $130/side for drilled and $95/side for plain. I'm thinking about picking up some R32 GTRs and doing that.

[titopr06]

i dont know if this is any help but i had the same problem getting some rotors for my r33 gts-t brakes and the cheapest place i found rotors was at placeforbrakes.com for some dba slotted rotors for $283.30. i emailed every nissan store i could and none of them carry r33 rotors so you might want to look into that.

[Z33dori]

for what it's worth.

I got brand new GTR32 rotors from Performance Nissan in Duarte.
The drilled ones even.

I bet they could help you out.
THe other option for me would be to go to

ENDLESS

or

Project Mu.


You are probably going to have to pay a lot, but at least they will be badass.

For some reason R32 GTR rotors (endless) are SUPER expensive.


yea i have planned on calling them today to price out some R32 GTR rotors, and then just shim off 1mm per side.

[Chrischeezer]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k141/ChrisCheezer/brakesoutside.jpg

got'em

[Z33dori]

what, how does that help anything


unless u have some u wanna sell... or are u talking about teh calipers.

[Jbma327]

Here are all the rotos specs. R33 GTST use 298mm x 30mm rotors & R33GTR are Brembo calipers

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/johnma327/brakechart.jpg

[Z33dori]

298... ur chart even says 296

[alkemyst]

r33 gts-t rotors are 296x30

r32 GTR rotors are 296x32

you could use r32 gtr rotors in a r33 caliper.. tho they aren't the same, they might as well be, uses the same pads etc.

This actually works? I have R33 GTST's and 32mm rotors are alot easier to source from the GTR.

[CIutchCollidE]

interesting thread

[alkemyst]

For some reason R32 GTR rotors (endless) are SUPER expensive.

Almost anything Endless is super expensive.

[alkemyst]

anyone have an answer to if the R32 GTR 296x32mm rotors are compatible with R33 GTST calipers that normally used a 296x30mm rotor?

Just bolt on or something else needed?

[Z33dori]

u can just save 1mm off each side of the rotor

search around on the Aussie forums. I just bought some gtst rotors off skyline Australia

[alkemyst]

u can just save 1mm off each side of the rotor

search around on the Aussie forums. I just bought some gtst rotors off skyline Australia

shaving 2mm off total would put them at the replacement turning.

Sourcing used is always an option but getting someone to ship internationally is a bit difficult.

[Z33dori]

only cost me 176USD..

[alkemyst]

only cost me 176USD..

post the link so anyone can order.

Chances are you found 1 dude willing to chance and know how to ship to the US, then got lucky he didn't send out of spec rotors.

[Z33dori]

Skylines Australia (http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/home.html)

i just joined, searched and pm'd the most recent thread posters

[neverrain]

Anyone know offhand if an r33 GTS-T setup will clear 18x9/10 +20 Work XD-9s? I know this question is random and I will have to measure it to know for sure, but if someone knows off the top of their head for sure, that would be super.

[skyvia25]

This actually works? I have R33 GTST's and 32mm rotors are alot easier to source from the GTR.

yes they do fit. the 32mm rotor does clear the r33 gtst caliper

[skyvia25]

shaving 2mm off total would put them at the replacement turning.

Sourcing used is always an option but getting someone to ship internationally is a bit difficult.

shaving 2mm will put the gtr rotor at its min. thickness

[skyvia25]

okey guys i just did the Lexus gs rotors on the r33 gtst caliper. you will need to make the center hole bigger (should be like 72mm or take it to a machine shop and ask them to make the hole 68mm with the inside slanted like this / \) in order to fit and add a 1/8 in. washer to the caliper for the correct offset. and like i mention before the 32mm thickness is not a problem just make sure your pistons are pushed in all the way in. ill post pics later when it stops raining.

[Z33dori]

well ill be dammed ....

[alkemyst]

shaving 2mm will put the gtr rotor at its min. thickness

correct, and when you need to have them turned you'd be ass out.

[nismo racer]

okey guys i just did the Lexus gs rotors on the r33 gtst caliper. you will need to make the center hole bigger (should be like 72mm or take it to a machine shop and ask them to make the hole 68mm with the inside slanted like this / \) in order to fit and add a 1/8 in. washer to the caliper for the correct offset. and like i mention before the 32mm thickness is not a problem just make sure your pistons are pushed in all the way in. ill post pics later when it stops raining.

bump from the dead.

where are the pics? im curious to know if can do this for my GT-ST brakes.

[alkemyst]

brembo makes R32 GTR blanks right? If 32mm works with R33 GTST 30mm calipers I am going for that route.

[nismo racer]

brembo makes R32 GTR blanks right? If 32mm works with R33 GTST 30mm calipers I am going for that route.

can anyone confirm? that seems wayyyy easier to do.

[9s13Coupe3SX]

Any1 try it out yet besides skyvia25 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/skyvia25.html). Some pics awesome too.

[B936CA]

can anyone help me figure out what brake is this???

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss312/B936CA/IMG00208-20090701-1419.jpg

help me im a newbiee!! :)

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[5t341tH]

can anyone help me figure out what brake is this???

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss312/B936CA/IMG00208-20090701-1419.jpg

help me im a newbiee!! :)

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
looks like regular z32 AL brakes

[B936CA]

looks like regular z32 AL brakes

ooo okay thanks! hehe sorry im a newbiee...