14/15 year old wants to start a 240sx project!?!?!?!?!

[1994Boy]

Well I want to start a 240sx project.

Should I save my money and buy a car when I can drive?

OR

Should I buy a car now and fix it up where when I can drive It is done?

If I do get a 240 I just want to built the KA up. I want to keep it NA just because I dont want something I cant handle.

What do you guys think?

Also I will be posting cars in here to see what you people think.

[shinhed]

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[90hatchie]

u can buy one but i believe the title will have to be in ur parents name as ur not 18

[Rapier46]

u can buy one but i believe the title will have to be in ur parents name as ur not 18


why? if it's not insured or registered(he will not be driving it until he is of age). And what's wrong with that anyway.

[FRpilot]

project car will not be a good daily driven car since you will always be working on it

[silviaz]

lawl.........

[VQMaxFan]

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Go there if you want opinions on stuff like this.

[brett-hancock]

Shit I'd buy it as soon as I had the chance an build it as time progresses an hopefully have it done by the time you get those L's...It shouldn't be too hard to accomplish beins you arent dumpin a shit ton into tha engine!!! Whichever way you choose tho, GOOD LUCK!!!

[sr20boostn20]

seriously tho, these cars are a costly hobby, one that many college students, and working individuals find it very hard to afford.

right now you should save all the money that you make for the next two years, and when the time comes buy a nice clean car/shell. Then go from there using the money you saved as start up.

but seriously be 14/15 you only get to do it once, dont wast it on a 240

[brett-hancock]

ALSO, FUCK THA HATERS!!! If you wanna post here< then post here!!!

[1ZlowZ]

I started on the classic 240z when I was 11. I learned a lot. So far I've rebuilt my own engine, swap tranmissions so on and so forth, I'm 16 right now. Haven't had a car for over a year because its too much money. My parents never gave me money so it was costly for me. Hah, anyways I have no regrets. I had to work hard which cut off most of my social life but brought a whole new one. I'd say its worth it, depends what kind of person you are how much stress you can handle before you give up. But once its done even technically it never is, it is a big stress reliever.

[Zen S14]

By the time you are 20 these cars will be really old rustbuckets. With all the nice new cars coming out you better look in the mirror really hard and be honest about how much you love the 240sx as a project platform. If you plan to drift then don't even bother as it'll just get wrecked over time. Better to buy a wreak when you can drive, beat it up to learn and then build a project car once you learn what you like and dislike about this car.

Honestly if I were you I'd get a older M3 as it is a much more capable car NA. Unless you plan to go turbo the KA is not a good motor to mod.

[garagelu]

Well I think one important thing you didn't mention is if you have any kind of support from your parents. At 14 or 15 you won't be able to do anything unless your parents approve of it, especially financially. You cant afford to do anything to a 240 with a minumum wage salary.

But in my opinion, even if you do have support I would recommend that you wait till you are a little older to get into cars. Do your research now and you will make better choices when you do have a car in front of you. The only exception I see is if your dad is really into cars and can build one with you.

[1ZlowZ]

That part too garagelu my dad was really into the 240z and help me build it. Not every problem that you'll encounter is on the internet it probably is but have to search hard, if you have someone to help you then go for it. If not just as here if you search first we will answer good.

[FaLKoN240]

If I could do it all over again, I would NOT get into cars.

Cars are a hobby best reserved for the rich and those born into opportunity.

You should aspire to do something with your LIFE, not a car.

I've spent more time and money on this car I've built more than anything else in my life, and right now its one of the biggest regrets I own.

I missed out on a lot of opportunities to have fun in my youth working and spending all my time/money on my car.

If you're doing it for girls, just having a car will get you all the attention you need from girls. Work on yourself, your personality, go out and have fun rather than focusing on trying to compete with people on the forum to have a cool car. You'll come out better in the long run.

DO WELL IN SCHOOL, GO TO COLLEGE, listen to that advice and you won't regret it.

[silviaz]

If I could do it all over again, I would NOT get into cars.

Cars are a hobby best reserved for the rich and those born into opportunity.

You should aspire to do something with your LIFE, not a car.

I've spent more time and money on this car I've built more than anything else in my life, and right now its one of the biggest regrets I own.

I missed out on a lot of opportunities to have fun in my youth working and spending all my time/money on my car.

If you're doing it for girls, just having a car will get you all the attention you need from girls. Work on yourself, your personality, go out and have fun rather than focusing on trying to compete with people on the forum to have a cool car. You'll come out better in the long run.

DO WELL IN SCHOOL, GO TO COLLEGE, listen to that advice and you won't regret it.


Well said.

[racepar1]

Cars are not a hobby for a 14 or 15 year old kid. The amount of time, money, and dedication it takes to build a car that is worth building is astronomical. If you want a 240, save up and buy one for your first car, but don't plan on building it right away. Just get some shocks, springs, wheels, and tires. Any aspirations you have towards taking the car farther than that should not be taken seriously at your age. In all likelyhood you will wreck your first car anyways, so I wouldn't be very eager to dump a bunch of money into it untill you know how to drive it. Take it slow man, don't just jump right into it. Get a clean car to start with and slowly work your way up from there.

[thesimpleS13]

yea honestly its not that easy. Unless your mom and dad are gonna "help", if you want some advice, i'd buy a 240 that is already running and that will be driveable. That's pretty much what I did at 16. And as you work and get some income, do some mods to it. just my .02cents

[kensreliableb18b]

14/15 yo? by the time you're actually able to drive, u might want to drive something else. i'd hold off if i were you. i remember back when i was 14/15, i wanted lots of things, but things change as time goes on.

[1ZlowZ]

I know I still want to get another 240 soon or a lexus sc300, right now I just want something economical. A honda eg or something.

[Slammed Assassin]

in my point of view its not really worth it. I bought my coupe when i turned sixteen. ive ran in to so many problems with these cars such as blown headgasket, clutch slipping, alternator, starter, oil leaks, ive spent hundreds of dollars. but the best part was i was able to fix the problems myself by reading fourms like these.as of now im seventeen and do sohc ka to dohc swaps as a hobby/job..and bought myself a s14. If you like to fix your own things and dont have a problem with income then go for it...but also i heard something out the states changing the drivers licence age to 18..by that time 350z's are gonna be cheaper if u like that platform..

[MadScientist]

No-one can tell you what to do in your life... you should make these descisions for yourself, and no-one else... ever!!

All anyone can really say is, Obey the Law, Stay in School, and Be Yourself!!

Fucked up part is... this is the same shit our Parents told us, and theirs told them, and so on!

Fact is... its Fact!!

-Drew

[scuba_steve91]

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[juice.def]

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haha this made my day

[Def]

By the time you are 20 these cars will be really old rustbuckets. With all the nice new cars coming out you better look in the mirror really hard and be honest about how much you love the 240sx as a project platform. If you plan to drift then don't even bother as it'll just get wrecked over time. Better to buy a wreak when you can drive, beat it up to learn and then build a project car once you learn what you like and dislike about this car.

Honestly if I were you I'd get a older M3 as it is a much more capable car NA. Unless you plan to go turbo the KA is not a good motor to mod.

True - you can get E36 M3s with some miles on them for about $8-9k easily now. Those cars will do ~240 rwhp with a few relatively cheap bolt-ons(about $300-800 depending on how nice you go).

I'm also betting that at 14 your interests are changing so quickly that you'll get bored of "messing with" your 240SX before you can even drive, and it'll just be money down the drain.

Buying a car before you can even drive is just stupid IMO.

[firelizard]

Go ahead, but don't expect to use it as a daily once you can drive, until it's done.

I thought I could have my cake and eat it too, but I was met with a lot of downtime and a dependance on a second car.

Also, it's going to be a money pit.

If I could do it over, I would have spent far less money on my stupid cars.

[ak47johnson]

I say this because I'm 17 and I went through this not long ago.

Growing up i was always around cars, both of my parents are were regional champions in the SCCA in autocross and untill about 5 years ago my dad owned his auto parts shop and machine shop. I had the EXACT idea you had, save up some money, buy a car that needs some work, and by the time im ready to drive, it will be a nice fun car. It is all easier said than done.

The problem is money and experience. I know you have saved up some money but its amazing how much stuff costs to be repaired that you dont even think about, weither its mechanical or cosmetic. Without at least some sort of steady income of money, there is no way you could keep up with the cost of a car. And i'll also believe you do have knowledge of car and how they work, but you can never truely understand something until you actually do it.

Heres my best advice. Do what i did. Invest your money in an older car, collector car, anywhere from the 30's to even 70's. Buy one thats cheap and could have some valueable parts, search ebay completed listings for parts if you think you have a car in mind. Part it out and sell the parts. I did it to a 1960's triumph tr4, and 1960-70's jensen healey, and a 1950's buick. I split the earnings with my dad, because he was the one who paid for them and sold the parts, and I learned a lot. At least hold on getting a car until you can drive or at least get a job to pay for it. I throughly enjoy being into cars but it can be costly, hell I own 3 240sx's, all paid for by me.

Kinda rambled on there but i think its good advice

[JeremyR]

i didnt get into cars untill after high school. hell, i didnt get a drivers license till my first year of college.

just wait till you make enough money for a hobby like this, kid.

[boost_addict]

You got money??

[Bigsyke]

You got money??

Yes




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[neverrain]

I bought my 240 when I was 18, young, and careless. I learned how to drive stick by driving it off the lot and to my house. I'm almost 28 now. In ten years I have been through 3 engines, 3 damn flip up headlights, numerous hoses, belts, 2 exhausts, lots of rotors, but only 2 clutches surprisingly. Never been in 1 accident though. Needless to say, after 10 years, i'm finally making enough money to maintain it properly and put money back into it and it is still expensive. I've put up with all the shit from friends, girlfriends, and such telling me that the car is a piece and I should just buy a new car. I have ignored them all this time because I love the damn car more than most of them.

If you really want to do it and have the means, do it. No one here is going to talk you out of it. Just remember, you are very young, possibly naive, and likely dreaming of something much more than what you will have the means to complete. Every single person here has told you how expensive these things are. Most have probably put 10x what the value of their car is back into, some even more. You only live once. Make the right decision. School and 16-21 are very important years of your life. Wait that out before making your decision. You will have much more knowledge after that. If you still want it after, do it.

[NISMO_tuner]

i agree with wat most members said. if ur only 15 and want to get into an expensive hobby like this then i suggest u start saving up. it is very costly, especially for somebody your age. i've been into cars since my freshman year at high school and i managed to save up to get my first car in my sophmore year. it was a MK3 Supra Turbo. and i loved being one of the only kids in school to own a car and be able to drive. but i also regret that because i ran into so many problems. i thought i knew about cars, but i didnt know anything. all i knew when i was younger is that an intake and exhaust will make your car go faster. as i got older i started going on forums and doing research. thats when i really got to know about cars and how to make wiser choices. I'm 18 now and two years ago i wouldn't know anything about an engine, but after learning from my many mistakes and doing extensive research, I know how to rebuild motors, do auto to manual swaps, and just about anything there is to know about cars.

to make things short, do your research, save up money, wait till you get your license, and buy yourself a car that you can drive and enjoy working on slowly. a project car isn't usually for a daily, and it cost tons of money so think hard about wat u are really doin before you do something you regret. nobody can tell you wat to do, these are just our opinions and experiences. im sure most of the members here has asked themself the same question that you are asking.

[Bigsyke]

Im pretty sure I would be driving a variant of lambo by now if I didnt get into modding/building cars.

Gone through about 8 exhausts,
12 intakes,
8 sets of wheels,
change my oil with amsoil on 3 cars every 3 months,
change the coolant on 3 cars with honda type II coolant every season,
changed everybolt on 2 cars with stainless or grade 10.9,
changed every possible gasket on 3 cars;
bla bla bla

id say $60k spent easy since I was 18, im 24 now. I was kicked out at 17, then a gracious stripper took me in. I worked tons of different jobs, then I landed a good company which paid me up the ass.

Now im having a blasty blast!

[MrSackles]

think about your future everything else can come in the future...

[S14Cuhh]

i js turned 16 when i bought my first s13..and i have no regrets...yet


educate urself well on it, and wait until you can drive to getta car. dont 'jump the gun'..i wish i wouldve looked at my car thoroughly before i was OK with its price.

goodluck to you

[S14Cuhh]

Im pretty sure I would be driving a variant of lambo by now if I didnt get into modding/building cars.

Gone through about 8 exhausts,
12 intakes,
8 sets of wheels,
change my oil with amsoil on 3 cars every 3 months,
change the coolant on 3 cars with honda type II coolant every season,
changed everybolt on 2 cars with stainless or grade 10.9,
changed every possible gasket on 3 cars;
bla bla bla

id say $60k spent easy since I was 18, im 24 now. I was kicked out at 17, then a gracious stripper took me in. I worked tons of different jobs, then I landed a good company which paid me up the ass.

Now im having a blasty blast! do you regret your choice of getting into 240s and whatnot? cause for most its a choice of what gets you from point A to point B..but for most on zilvia its a sort of lifestyle

[Bigsyke]

do you regret your choice of getting into 240s and whatnot? cause for most its a choice of what gets you from point A to point B..but for most on zilvia its a sort of lifestyle


Well I wish I never wasted money on honda/acura's.

If I could go back in time, id get/save for an s14;

Learn how to drive, keep it stock untill I could ensure anything I touch is easily replenished with a replacement.

I would take my sweet time with any replacement. Not do double projects. Not sway from one upgrade to the next durring upgrades untill im 100% satisfied its factory OE Quality if not better, bitch

Change out a bolt? soak that slut in pbblaster for hours.

Study the FSM so I can give a sermon on wiring in 6 different languages

[Teambadrun]

I say get into it.

Start drifting once the car is ready and you are eligible to drift.


Althou you will waste allot of money :rofl:

[soreballz]

14/15? You should be concentrating on building a sick BMX bike, not a car. lol

Fly Tierra with a bunch of Animal and Shadow Conspiracy parts, perhaps? lol

[SR240DET]

what will the purpose of this car be? I mean why build one? If you going to do any racing, drifting, or whatever then you need to get to know your car, and upgrade the parts you need as your driving skills improve.

If your just going to build one just because, then your going to ask your self when you get older why you wasted your time.

[turbo_dreams]

If cars are all you think about day and night and you work hard to get whered you want, do it. i got my First s13 on aug 10th, 2005, after working all summer and saving $800, was 2 days before my 16th bday. I'm 18 now and am on my 5th or 6th s13 which is a mid 13 sec ka-t that i worked all senior year to build+boost, and i don't regret it one bit, this winter im trying to save 4k for body/paint, and im sure it'll be worth every penny, because that's how much i love her. Pardon me while i go get intamete w/ my chucki.

[Ricks15]

Focus on fuckin school instead!!! Not on fucken 240SX project cars.

[Teddy]

I got my first S13 when I was 15, and since then I've had 5 cars, 4 of them were S13s. I'm now 17.

[ayuaddict]

i got my first S13 when i was 15.

im pretty content with my life.

[mikethebiker]

14/15? You should be concentrating on building a sick BMX bike, not a car. lol

Fly Tierra with a bunch of Animal and Shadow Conspiracy parts, perhaps? lol

i got my first fit frame when i was thirteen
I now have the sickest ass bmx bike i could ever want, and it is definitely worth more than my S13, and has done a lot more for me than this gay ass car i like.

build a bike dude
ps animal is gay, odyssey is a lot better

[mikethebiker]

oh yeah, get off the internet. get into the sun. go kiss girls and sled in the snow, eat all moms food and get into fights in middle school. jump your bike and scrape up your knees, play video games and stay up past midnight. make friends and blow stuff up, play with legos and fucking DO stuff.
i would seriously give anything to be 13 again. kids these days

[ILoveMyRHS13]

It's not easy. My suggestion, at this age, spend your money on other fun things, like going out with friends and socializing. I'm 17 and I'd much rather put money into having fun than into my 240 right now. It's not just because I don't want to, it's the fact that I don't have a whole lot of money, so I don't want it all going to my car.

[Antihero983]

lol @ people saying it's not a hobby for people his age...

When do you think alot of our predecessors got into cars, like the old hot rodders and whatnot? Exactly.

Fuck Chip Foose was designing shit for cars at like 9 years old.

If you have the passion, go for it. But remember, like any hobby or passion, it won't always go smoothly and you have to keep your wits about you.

And besides, if you start now, you can take all the time in the world to get the car exactly how YOU want it to be.

I say go for it kid, I'm sure you'll do fine.

[lilredstiffy]

God this thread is a sea of regrets. Some of you guys need to find hobbies you actually LIKE.

I'd say get whatever car you want/can afford. Its your life. A 240sx is a really fun car, but keep in mind most will not be in great shape these days. They are getting old. So expect dumb things to break or need to be replaced.


The only feeling I have from being a little older-
If I had a son I would make sure he drove a real piece of shit from age 15-18ish. Teenagers make real crap decisions and do not need anything that has more than 100whp and less than 4 wheels. Getting a sporty car, the odds are very likely it will be totalled / tickets will be collected. You can always get a car when you 'grow up' and have way more cash flow and sense.

[BustedS13]

I want to keep it NA just because I dont want something I cant handle.


it sounds like you're actually on the right path.

don't drift. learn to drive. leave the car completely stock. do not rice it out, you will look stupid. good luck

[neverrain]

God this thread is a sea of regrets. Some of you guys need to find hobbies you actually LIKE.


I'm more concerned with how many people here are saying they have gone through 3+ in 2-5 years. WTF. Do you guys fail at driving? How did you crash so many of these things?

[FaLKoN240]

I'm more concerned with how many people here are saying they have gone through 3+ in 2-5 years. WTF. Do you guys fail at driving? How did you crash so many of these things?

I sold my first one because the chassis was tired and looked like it. (Lots of first accidents in that POS. Learned a lot though)

Second one I bought was a rusted out POS. I don't even count that car really.

Third car was my favorite, pride and joy black on black. Some asshole hit it while it was parked after racing GoKarts at my work.

I swapped all the parts out of that one and put them into my red car over the course of 6 months (Lost motivation)

Forth car, red car in my sig. KA-T now, its cool, but the S Chassis scene has diminished to such a shit hole in California I don't really want to be apart of it anymore.

[crzycav86]

if you have any big plans for your future, drifting will ruin your life.

interpret that however you want, and i think a lot of people here will agree.

[LA_phantom_240]

Cars are not a hobby for a 14 or 15 year old kid. The amount of time, money, and dedication it takes to build a car that is worth building is astronomical. If you want a 240, save up and buy one for your first car, but don't plan on building it right away. Just get some shocks, springs, wheels, and tires. Any aspirations you have towards taking the car farther than that should not be taken seriously at your age. In all likelyhood you will wreck your first car anyways, so I wouldn't be very eager to dump a bunch of money into it untill you know how to drive it. Take it slow man, don't just jump right into it. Get a clean car to start with and slowly work your way up from there.

Gasp! No "COILOVERS OR BAN!!" wisdom, like others give?

lol just messin with ya.

Like Racepar1 said, you can get a 240 and it will be fine and dandy but if you're in the mindset that you're going to build a badass daily driver... I have to say you're wrong. My first car was an S13 LE, lowered it on springs, got the basic mods. Ended up jumping time and I gave up on it a year after because I was just too young to make the kind of money to make anything of the car, being in school and all...

So far I've owned 4 240's, only one of which being an s14. I would say the S14 is a better car to start with than the S13, solely because of your age and the car's age. There are less problems with the S14 than the S13, but I think its just an age thing.... Give it a couple years and S14s will be shitting out on a regular basis. The 240sx is a great car to start with as long as you take your time and buy one which has been taken care of halfway decently so you don't have gremlin after gremlin like I'm having lol. The KA is a hard motor to kill as long as you keep up on maintenance.

[LA_phantom_240]

it sounds like you're actually on the right path.

don't drift. learn to drive. leave the car completely stock. do not rice it out, you will look stupid. good luck

Meh... I say get rid of the 4x4 gap, get decent wheels... and you're golden.

[BustedS13]

Meh... I say get rid of the 4x4 gap, get decent wheels... and you're golden.

i feel a 16 year old shouldn't really be concerning himself with rimzzz... much less a 14/15 year old -_-

[LA_phantom_240]

i feel a 16 year old shouldn't really be concerning himself with rimzzz... much less a 14/15 year old -_-

I agree... but for the sake of the 240 community, massive spacers are needed at the very least.

[BustedS13]

I agree... but for the sake of the 240 community, massive spacers are needed at the very least.

we should start a paypal fund. get him some sparkle paint and some toys for his tow hook.

[S14DB]

God this thread is a sea of regrets. Some of you guys need to find hobbies you actually LIKE.

I'd say get whatever car you want/can afford. Its your life. A 240sx is a really fun car, but keep in mind most will not be in great shape these days. They are getting old. So expect dumb things to break or need to be replaced.


The only feeling I have from being a little older-
If I had a son I would make sure he drove a real piece of shit from age 15-18ish. Teenagers make real crap decisions and do not need anything that has more than 100whp and less than 4 wheels. Getting a sporty car, the odds are very likely it will be totaled / tickets will be collected. You can always get a car when you 'grow up' and have way more cash flow and sense.
I could not agree more with these points. Even more that I don't have to type them out. :bigok:

[Edgar]

I see join dates, I see comments and this reminds me why I barely come and read anything on Zilvia.

[spoolandslide]

i say you should get whatever shitball 240 you want and come to me for parts

why not learn young

why does everyone gotta be a nay-sayer around here? (serious question)

[BustedS13]

i say you should get whatever shitball 240 you want and come to me for parts

why not learn young

why does everyone gotta be a nay-sayer around here? (serious question)

"learn young" in this context, in my mind means "learn to become a responsible driver"

you can't really do that if somebody throws you the keys to a 20 year old sports car when you're 16. you're going to spend too much time doing maintenance and wrecking.

[iwishiwas-all*]

dont do it, and if you dont listen and do it:
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go there, not here

[raz0rbladez909]

dont do it, and if you dont listen and do it:


go there, not here

Obviously its something he's interested in otherwise he wouldn't have asked or joined, so whether you say do it or not he's made the decision

in his mind already. If you're going to start working on cars, might as well learn young, having to work on something yourself; Instead of being

that kid fresh out of high school whos daddy bought him a brand new car, when you pay for something yourself you tend to have more

respect for it and take better care of it. Granted he can't drive it yet, but it will give him an opportunity to get used to owning a car and take

care of simple things that may be wrong with it(what 240 doesnt have at least 1 thing wrong with it?) that way when he is able to drive it he

isn't driving a pos around he just picked up off craigslist for 100 bucks. I don't know why half of you are still on this forum with all the bitching

about how much you've spent, its not like anybody made you buy a 20 year old car and everybody knows car modification is an expensive

hobby/lifestyle. All I'm saying is if it's what you want then don't hesitate, do your research, make sure you know what you're getting yourself

into before you take the leap. Don't do it to fit in, because then you won't enjoy it, and make sure to keep a good amount of cash in your

savings just in case something does happen, because something is bound to go out, just make sure you are prepared for it. if you have

anymore questions pm me
Good luck

[worr20]

I got my first 240 when I was 16. I also did my first 5 speed swap at 16 on the same 240. im now 17 and in the Army, and drive a Geo tracker. Cars are a Huge investment!!! if you really want to do it make sure. buy a running 240 and just build really slowly. enjoy the car, but dont go crazy with it. but at 14/15 years of age I would save all the money you earn. I went a whole year only spending 50 bucks when I was 13. All so I could buy a car. Now im in the Army. have some good money. have a lot of parts, and no 240. haha. but seriously. take your time...dont rush

[Pank]

at 14 you should be building MODEL cars, all getting anxious about a history test, all wondering what the food will be tomorrow (maybe its pizza? i hope its pizza), all trying to hit on girls, and then not knowing what to do at a date, riding bikes and scamming your friends for capri suns, saying things like "dirty sanchez" and "balls" all day, all getting awkward boners in class for no reason, and then hoping you don't get called to the board to do some math problem you weren't paying attention to, because you straight got a inconvenient boner and today HAD to be the day you wore basketball shorts.

not fucking with cars.

edit: didnt you basically post this same thread, but use a ".....NOT" joke in it about a year ago?

[lazysk8er2]

get the project and do what these guys did....seriously rj has terrible taste sometimes

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[ZenkiKid]

I got some friends who wanna get 240s just because they "look sick" I just say straight up: "Dude no." I mean im sure everyone here agrees that our cars arent exactly in the best shape and is a bitch at times to maintain. Not worth the money unless you're truly dedicated and not in for no fucking fad

[Ka24Power]

When I was 14 I wanted a Metallic blue 91 Integra with an Darth Vader body kit.

Thank God I waited until I was 17 to buy my first 240...

Don't buy a project car when you're 14. Just don't.

[300zx1990tt]

lulz at this kid.

[DOOK]

If I could do it all over again, I would NOT get into cars.

Cars are a hobby best reserved for the rich and those born into opportunity.

You should aspire to do something with your LIFE, not a car.

I've spent more time and money on this car I've built more than anything else in my life, and right now its one of the biggest regrets I own.

I missed out on a lot of opportunities to have fun in my youth working and spending all my time/money on my car.

If you're doing it for girls, just having a car will get you all the attention you need from girls. Work on yourself, your personality, go out and have fun rather than focusing on trying to compete with people on the forum to have a cool car. You'll come out better in the long run.

DO WELL IN SCHOOL, GO TO COLLEGE, listen to that advice and you won't regret it.

x eleventy billion... fuck cars

[nismostate]

started messing with cars when i turned sixteen. i was into trucks then so i lifted a 92 pathfinder. mostly suspension but i was still clueless on how it all worked. started my s13 project when i was ~20 and it was an AWESOME eye opening experience. imho my passion for driving has made me what i am today. i dont work on cars mostly for joy but i do it so i can beat the shit out of it and DRIFT! its a great stress reliever and Its also nice to step back and see what you build. it really depends on how strong your passion for the hobby is. when i was in school i was broke as shit cause all my money went to the car but thats what i wanted. its sad that my project pretty much have an unlimited fund but its easy for me to pass a great deal on clothes/other toys. i always tell people this though, my hobby has made me a better mechanical engineer because it is all pretty much related. ;)

[xs240]

I agree, this is a hobby if you're overflowing with money. I've spent 20k+ on my 240 which initially cost under a thousand dollars. I have a fast car, but it's still not done believe it or not. All that money could be spent on so much more in life. Believe me.

If you're getting into mechanical engineering, mechanics, or something like that then you can consider it as worth it.. otherwise if you're doing it for fun you will get carried away and maybe even grow out of it. My father for one, he used to modify euro cars when I was a kid, so that made me love cars, but you know what he is so not into cars now, he still loves fast cars and whatnot but he always tells me not to speed even though he did hehe ;) My track car whoops ass, but you know what, all that money put together little by little, I could have built a v8 mid engined kit car or something... ah well.

[theslows13]

on my third 240 since i was 18, im 22 now. started with a 1990 sentra automatic my parents bought me for a first car. slow as balls, but the cleanest sentra youd ever see, inside or out. i drove it like a bat outta hell, sportscar or not.

then i needed more than 25whp (or so i thought), took a LOAN out to pay for the first 240. i, stupidly, am indirectly still paying on said loan. bad idea.

this was when noone knew what a 240 was, there was NO local scene, nothing. so i got bored with a stock (cus i was poor, and woulda riced it out anyway) coupe and sold it for a 1993 celica gt (MISTAKE 2). celicas are pieces of shit in case you didnt know. took ANOTHER loan to pay off the 240 loan, plus the additional money for the celica. ugh. bad idea.

then my ass wised up a little. found a MINT hatchback, clean as fuck. broke even from selling the celica. still had the loan out for about $2300 at that point. but i had a 240 again, local scene was picking up, motivation was high, funding was not. it got cheap coilovers, a good washing, and i flossed that car like it was god. it DID look GOOD, and i beat the shit outta it, touge'ing before i knew anyone else did it, i just liked the crazy roads in my area, through the mountains.

then, friend drove my car one time, less than a mile, totalled it. my pristine baby was gone.

on 240 #3 now, hand built, a FREE shell from a friend who heard about the other guy wrecking my car, $8k in it right now, havent touched the motor/exhaust. car is stock KADE. its spraypainted cus paints not a priority. but i have my suspension half done, new wheels/tires, 5 lug, z brakes, alum ds, tomei diff, the list goes on. i started to lose motivation cus now my car handles better than ANYTHING in my area, so i really didnt have to work hard to be faster in touge runs... and then, black ice, my car @<15mph, and a curb decided to join forces. front susp is mangled on driverside.

so here's my motivation, fix it, or have no daily. its a shitty feeling. your only car is a project, thus you MUST fix it. its not a hobby when its a requirement.

if you want a 240sx, buy a daily, slow fwd, reliable car. sure it wont get the ladies wet like a well built 240 will, but that shit will get your girl to and from points A and B. thats a LOT more attractive than "my badass 240, in my garage, is gonna be SO cool again, once i fix all the mangled suspension bits" ahhaahah....

on that note, i need to get off my ass and do a damage assessment right now of what i need to order from PSM. the touge addict inside me hopes i need to replace all the arms/rods :D the part of me who pays the bills tho, is hoping not to go that route.

touge>logic

btw, youre 14/15? how the hell does that work? you gotta be 14, cus if you were 15, you wouldnt be caught dead being called younger. but if youre 14, you wanna sound older.

so youre 14. i just nancy-drewed the answer to my own question

[xs240]

^lol .. He's obviously 14, but lets give the kid a break. :) He's just brainwashed by movies/tv/etc... like most of us.

[Future240]

Well at least he's smart enough to ask advice instead of just trying to do it. Kid I say wait till you are 16 or 17 and see if you still even want a 240 by then

[dat411kid]

Well just pretty much read through the whole thread...And here's my advice, If your passionate about cars be it Rich or Poor, It doesn't matter you will spend money on it and enjoy every minute of it...Of course it doesn't make sense, but all the Cents never makes sense in the car game...You Lose period...Now if you love cars it wont matter to you, but for others they will be like what a waste of money, etc.....Which brings me to my next point all the people saying "Don't do it, Save your money, etc" Kinda sounds like the people saying don't smoke with a tube stuck down there throat...Why the fuck are you doing it? lol, I'm pretty sure your all on the forums for a reason and this kids here to learn and seek advice from others that are supposed share that passion with him....I say go with want you want in life...Its kind of hard to have two priorities in life I tried skateboarding and cars doesn't really work out...But if your willing to do sacrifice some to enjoy cars and Tuning them by all means go for it....

[Om1kron]

funny thing to note.

there is actually a thread on nico forums called the kid and I or something which documents a 15 year old canadian kid and his wrenching nerd dad building an s14 with an s14 blacktop swap in it, kid did most of the wrenching on the car, but obviously daddy is who put the cake into the oven concerning money.

It's a really good read.

[Daniel.]

If I could do it all over again, I would NOT get into cars.

Cars are a hobby best reserved for the rich and those born into opportunity.

You should aspire to do something with your LIFE, not a car.

I've spent more time and money on this car I've built more than anything else in my life, and right now its one of the biggest regrets I own.

I missed out on a lot of opportunities to have fun in my youth working and spending all my time/money on my car.

If you're doing it for girls, just having a car will get you all the attention you need from girls. Work on yourself, your personality, go out and have fun rather than focusing on trying to compete with people on the forum to have a cool car. You'll come out better in the long run.

DO WELL IN SCHOOL, GO TO COLLEGE, listen to that advice and you won't regret it.

damn scottie, when did you get so wise.

i kinda feel the same way about my car hobby. fuck my life.

[Om1kron]

guy above me and falkon240 here is a solution to your problems, try to be more entertaining sociably, and also get better jobs if your car is draining all of your fund age, learn to hustle and stop crying you missed out on shit like your 50 years old. Your big boy hairs are barely coming in.

You wont have money to do shit enjoyable in your life until you're in your 30s-40's anyway. All you need to worry about us hobbies and pussy when you're 17-29 and prioritize your money based off your want and needs. Because you may never get another chance in your life to do stuff like this again.

Some dipshit on these boards is only 28, same age as me and put his 240 up for sale when he went to the superior nissan meet because he felt like an old fart hanging out with a bunch of kids with hackjob cars...

age shouldn't matter when it comes to cars, I kick it with a 55 year old dude into starions and his son 24...

Flyberts dad is another example of cool dad into cars, and I can tell from the work he does for his son and Dousans car that he's one of those guys that doesn't regret any decision's he made in his life. Now his skills he picked up along the way are helping his son build his car better where knowledge like that is INVALUABLE.

I think a lot of you miss that.

anyway.

[Bigsyke]

Its funny cuz im really into cars, but ive never been to a meet. Im also really into hookers, but never actually paid for one.

I did overpay for my 240 however

[lolatclint]

got my 240 last year and im 17 now. i've been obsessed and i think im pretty much fucked because i realized i don't focus as much in school anymore. especially since im gonna start going to the track i might get hooked. going to college soon.. shit.

i say .. wait a couple more years! ahah

[projectRDM]

Its funny cuz im really into cars, but ive never been to a meet. Im also really into hookers, but never actually paid for one.

I did overpay for my 240 however

Well said. Hookers are way better than cars anyway. Hookers leave after they give you a disease, the car stays around and demands more money.

I didn't read any of this thread until these last few posts because I could honestly give a flying fuck either way, but I think anyone who's not even old enough to drive yet who's already so hooked on buying a 20yr old piece of shit deserves all the problems he's going to encounter with it. If I could do it all over again at age 16 I'd buy the most dependable car I could get and just drive the damn thing, saving my money for more important shit like strippers, coke, and booze. This 240 fad is so over it's depressing and we've still got kids who are cutting grass in hopes of owning the dream one day. They should all at least have a dream that's worthwhile like a Ferrari or something cool, not a rusted out hatch with a stripped interior, bashed quarters, and blown shocks.

[s13 @ fullboost]

hey man I bought mine when I was 15 I am now 17 almost 18 and I am on my 4th one and NO none of them were wrecked or anything like that well actually one was but not by me drunk driver but yeah tight cars watch out on how you spend your money though I have made some costly mistakes

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[deukalionS14]

Dude, just do it. get the car. stop worrying about what the others are saying about "dont do this dont do that" fuck that. do what YOU want.

You just need to realize what you're getting into. it's nothing bad really. it's a hobby that turns into a passion. i say do it bro. have fun...you only live once and you dont have time to feel like you missed out on doing what YOU wanted to do.

[Teddy]

hey man I bought mine when I was 15 I am now 17 almost 18 and I am on my 4th one and NO none of them were wrecked or anything like that well actually one was but not by me drunk driver but yeah tight cars watch out on how you spend your money though I have made some costly mistakes

Grammar/punctuation pwns you.

[silly_13]

like what everyone said just do what u want to do, learn what u want to learn, its ur money, ur life, and ur time..... closed the thread pls!!!!!!

[bo2o]

for reals... this thread is going no where...
turning into nico.

look into ziptied threads.
dont waste your time with cars. learn things now and do them later on your own car.

key is to learn to weld. than motor work.
that's what builds cars.
do very well in school become a engineer and then just hire a mechanic to work on your car. haha


popin a boner in class..... o that brings me back to highschool. tuck it under your belt or just point it up is all u can do....

[jskateborders]

IMO building a car isnt fun unless you can test drive all the things you do to it. Yea, you see alot of build threads where people buy all their parts and throw it all together before they ever drive it, but they're all older, and have had the behind the wheel experience. For you, Id recomend starting to drive on a stock platform, and mod as you go along. Youll learn alot more and I think give you a more enjoyable experience.

[Bigsyke]

This is so gay, why do I feel like I need to keep posting in this thread;

Because I honestly feel that my point isnt getting across. Get a lifetime membership, a GNC gold card, and start getting ripped. When your 18 you can buy a stripper.


Man I miss her.......:love:

[vodka2]

you , get the 240 .. just dont do stupid stuff to it so people dont clown on you.

[s13_slideways]

just do you

[LA_phantom_240]

you , get the 240 .. just dont do stupid stuff to it so people dont clown on you.

Is this, how you say, Clowning on someone?
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/Uncrunkable/clown.jpg

[S14TEENZ]

dude....be smart...a 240 is nice and even nicer in h.s.....get it but dont do anything stupid im sayin cuz i did..in my bright red s14 i got over 6 tickets..get the platform work on it urself and learn how to do stuff...do it right the first time.... say no to drugs and ur set...it will keep entertained for a while..especially if u break somethin..lol just do it people are talkin bout funds...this is a damn hobby u cant be born into a hobby...if u like cars and feel the 240 is ur ride then lets see the progress of ur build from the simplest mod to somethin custom u may have thought of and accomplished..... do it kiddo!!
p.s no Egay stuff cuz the fellow Zilvians will fry the pants off u.

[drift freaq]

Some dipshit on these boards is only 28, same age as me and put his 240 up for sale when he went to the superior nissan meet because he felt like an old fart hanging out with a bunch of kids with hackjob cars...

age shouldn't matter when it comes to cars, I kick it with a 55 year old dude into starions and his son 24...

Flyberts dad is another example of cool dad into cars, and I can tell from the work he does for his son and Dousans car that he's one of those guys that doesn't regret any decision's he made in his life. Now his skills he picked up along the way are helping his son build his car better where knowledge like that is INVALUABLE.

I think a lot of you miss that.

anyway.

Heh that 28 year old guy that posted his car for sale, only owned it 2 or 3 months. He talked about it being his dream car, when In fact, he bought it from his friend who had built it. I.E. it was all bullshit, just so he could put the car up for sale.

Enough about that, what 240falkon said is true for him and is sage advice.

With that said I will relate my own feelings and story. I got my first car when when I was 17 two weeks later I wrecked it, lol. A 65 Ford Mustang, wrapped around a telephone phone due to a foolish maneuver of a immature kid i.e. I. I actually learned a lot from that.

I bought that car myself from selling my Pro Italian racing bike. I was into long distance bike riding before cars. Yes the bikes went by the wayside after I got into cars till around 8 or nine years later.

My second car was a Datsun 510 4 door. It was lowered and went around corners like nobody's business. It also had Terrible Continental Contact tires on American Racing Libre wheels. This was the start of a valuable education for me I have no regrets about.
I really learned to drive in this car and my third car a 69 Datsun 510 2 door. I drove these cars relatively stock for about a year. I sold the 4 door dirt cheap, banged up. hahahhahha I bew the headgasket on the 2 door.
I wound up getting a loan from my mother and rebuilding and pumping out the engine top to bottom. I learned how to do clutch jobs(when I got the 4 door I had never driven a clutch, I learned.:D)
Everytime it rained we went out and got sideways. We went to the hills and drove the canyons. We were kids, going to the track was not available. Except to go to Seca and Sears Point to watch.

I digress though, I went to Auto tech at the end of High School. The thing is working on cars did not wreck my life it did through me off track. I actually moved up to owning my own Japanese engine and transmission business. I did music stuff as well though not as much as car stuff at that time. I always did Music, I always did cars. I also moved up in cars into 240Z's. The only regret from all of that I ever had was selling off all my 240Z's thinking I would find one later after I had closed my Engine and trans business do to changing markets.

Funny thing is I remember people feeling in the early 80's that smog laws and police cracking down on 510 drivers was the end of the scene as we knew it. LOL Does that sound familiar?

Never sell American spirit and Hot Rodding short. Where we feel its over or ended, others will find new ways and cars.

14-15 I was already dreaming about playing with cars. 17 I was playing with cars. Here I am today still fucking with cars. LOL its fun, its annoying, its costly, its a life experience.

The OP probably should just hang tight. Save some money. Work, study, get a stock car when you get your license. Learn to really drive, drive it mostly stock, get a year or two actual experience in before going down the road of modifications. You might find this is not the platform you want to play with. You may find other interests that are more important. If not study and learn how to work on your car.

Knowledge is the key. It can help you immensely if you can learn and not ask stupid questions on the internet, asking people to hold your hand.

You will find out soon enough if its something your really into or a passing fad or whim for you. Playing with cars, building them and whatnot is not for everyone. To many people today get into because its cool and not because they are mechanically capable or even wish to have the technical knowledge.
This has to be something you desire to do, because it actually interests you. If you lose interest? Forget it get out.

I am addicted to playing with cars, its in my blood as is Music. Some call it a waste of money a waste of time. If it gives you any satisfaction whatsoever its not!

Think about it.

[1five10]

Age shouldn't matter when it comes to being a car enthusiast. I've been into Datsun/Nissans since I was in high school. I used to drive a 1971 Datsun 510 with a dual carbureted NAP-Z motor to school. The NAP-Z 2.4 was Nissans motor that was a 4 cylinder with 8 spark plugs. That thing was fassssssst......


I'm in my 30's now and still go to 240 meets because I own 2 240's, a 1998 and a 1992 hatch. Usually I'm one of the older guys there, but who cares.

I also own a 1973 Datsun 510 and when I go to 510 meets I am right in the middle of the age group and fit right in.

One thing I have noticed is that the condition/quality/performance of someone's car is directly proportional to their age. Usually because the older guys are more established with regards to career and lifestyle because we have more liquid assets to support our hobby.

Just bring what you have and enjoy yourself among fellow car enthusiasts.

[hacknik]

What most people should understand would be that he already has his mind made up. Us disencouraging him to not buy a car, will make him want one even more. Seeing things that you cant have either motivates you to get them, or crushes you, and forces you to move on. Either way, its better to steer him in the right direction, rather then push him over a cliff and tell him that buying an S-chassis will get you AIDS.
Just like what drift freaq said, i agree completley.

A hobby is always so much more then what it seems on the outside, just make sure you dont make the common first mistake of being anxious and buying a rusted to shit/barley running crap box with no windsheild and bald tires lol.

[ESmorz]

You might find this is not the platform you want to play with.

The man is right.

Really drive a stock 240 before you start modifying it.

I'm glad I did it, the 240 is not really for me though. Now I have a nice unmolested, perfect car to sell as well.

[420sx]

just get the car, do the small things to it, read the manual, do some research. get your license drive it, think of what you don't like and change it. don't rush anything, it takes the fun out of it.

[Slide_ways14]

just get the car, do the small things to it, read the manual, do some research. get your license drive it, think of what you don't like and change it. don't rush anything, it takes the fun out of it.


hes got a point.
better to take it slow on modifying your car
change little things step by step the whole
point is to have fun and enjoy what you do.

[sr20alex]

If I could do it all over again, I would NOT get into cars.

Cars are a hobby best reserved for the rich and those born into opportunity.

You should aspire to do something with your LIFE, not a car.

I've spent more time and money on this car I've built more than anything else in my life, and right now its one of the biggest regrets I own.

I missed out on a lot of opportunities to have fun in my youth working and spending all my time/money on my car.

If you're doing it for girls, just having a car will get you all the attention you need from girls. Work on yourself, your personality, go out and have fun rather than focusing on trying to compete with people on the forum to have a cool car. You'll come out better in the long run.

DO WELL IN SCHOOL, GO TO COLLEGE, listen to that advice and you won't regret it.

+1000 on that

Seriously If i wasnt so into cars i'd be so much better off in life. I bought a s13 when I was 16 years old with my own money of course it was fun but mostly a pain in the ass then I was able to sale it for more than i got it for luckly 1.3k profit:naughtyd: Then i bought a lexus when i was 17 and i am already on my second one. SC300 are freaking awesome anyways. Trust TRY your best to not get into cars they'll ruin your life.. They will consume your time, make you broke than you should be. I would say start getting into cars when you have a steady pay cause i dont have a steady pay its pretty hard to fix your car without a pay.
My brother was the one who got me into cars he had 5 240sx and 300z pretty awesome when I sat in his car and felt boost. Thats what made me want to get into cars, if none of your family members have experience on working on cars then dont do it.
Have you ever wonder why so many people try to sell their cars for college funds, they blew it all on their car already and are trying to make their money back. Just think about it.
Then again your already on this forum and I think it might be a little too late to back out

Plus when i went to a lexus meet i was the youngest guy there!

Education>cars
Better education = better cars

[dmax_silvia_s13]

Do it! I wish I would of started when I was 14! Just take your time on it and use your money responsibly on it as time goes on and eventually it will be exactly what you want.
Still get education and everything but why not start now and take your time while your in school too and get ahead.
I would never wait years until I was done school to do a passion I love. I can do both at the same time.
Go for it just don't be stupid about it.

[used240sxparts]

So the kid hasn't responded to any of these posts... I think he went to nico or decided to get that bad ass huffy.

[Shift n Drift]

dude, if your 14 or 15 years old, and you wanna do it, do it, but the best way to do it is

get a job while you have 0 expenses

0 expenses= 100% expenses to car

100% expenses to car=done faster then alotta mother fuckers that waited and end up sellin their shit cause they have too many expenses at the time they decided to make a project. its very simple

DO WORK SON!

[don_bagz]

Do it! I wish I would of started when I was 14! Just take your time on it and use your money responsibly on it

thats the problem, he is 14.. some things might seem like a good idea when you are 14, but you might think other wise when you're older

[spool3n240]

thats the problem, he is 14.. some things might seem like a good idea when you are 14, but you might think other wise when you're older

haha yeah you"ll realize that, im 16 and bought my first s13 when i was 14. Things i thought about and did to the car when i was 14 are totally different to what my plans are now. i just finished my sr swap with no help from my parents in the money aspect, just alot of support. it keeps you/well me outta trouble but takes alot of time away from your social life if you really get into a project. i just think its up to you and what kinda person you are.

[JVDSKYRINE]

haha yeah you"ll realize that, im 16 and bought my first s13 when i was 14. Things i thought about and did to the car when i was 14 are totally different to what my plans are now. i just finished my sr swap with no help from my parents in the money aspect, just alot of support. it keeps you/well me outta trouble but takes alot of time away from your social life if you really get into a project. i just think its up to you and what kinda person you are.


Not really a social life killer if your buddies are into the same shit...beers and pizza and working on cars brings buddies closer.

[spool3n240]

yeah but its hard to find girls that wanna get dirty too.


Not really a social life killer if your buddies are into the same shit...beers and pizza and working on cars brings buddies closer.

[handinpants]

you should buy a fake id, buy some booze, and fuck all the underage girls you can before you turn 18. wait til ur oldenough to have a license to buy a car, but meantime get drunk and get some pussy.

[unlegendary]

start when you can buy your own insurance.

if i could do it all over again, i wouldn't get into cars cause there is so much that i really want but can't afford at the moment and the ideas will drive you crazy.

dude ur 14, you could fuckin start a band or something, do good in school, make decent money, then the girls will jock ur decent salary, and finally you'll have lived a decent life.

cars are for hot dogs on a stick and sausages. lol, but once you can afford your own insurance and you still like 240s then come back here!

[spikegomez]

u can buy one but i believe the title will have to be in ur parents name as ur not 18

Yeah while your not in legal age you should name the title with your parents name....


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