making power

is there a way to increase power without adding any parts.... like chaging timing things or something im un-sure about tweaking an engine without parts... so what can be done.... be specific please.

[S13Grl]

Take off power steering belt
Remove all heavy objects (passenger seat, spare-car's easier to push)
I don't know of anything else, it doesnt' come to mind right now.

not physical stuff i mean doing something like hooking up a timing gun or changing something that will  add power.... im lost i dont know what im talking about but i know there is something u can do like that im pretty sure....

[whateverjames]

i don't think you can add power or go faster without physically altering 'something' on your car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;

are u sure? any mechs out there? arent there things u can do to make some power? without adding parts? just adjusting certain things

[ZeroGS14]

nismo...you can advance your timing and run higher octane fuel

how would one go about advancing timing? what kind of octane, i e how high of an octane would i have to run, and how much power would i gain?

[BlankFlip]

usually u don't have to advance ur timing w/ a newer car like urs though, ur timing should be just as it should be right now.

would advancing it create any horsepower gains?

n e ideas?

[BlankFlip]

i'm not 2 sure, i only had my timing advanced on my camaro when it wasn't running smooth or consistent.

[chickenmanq]

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is there a way to increase power without adding any parts.... like chaging timing things or something im un-sure about tweaking an engine without parts... so what can be done.... be specific please.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

If you haven't gutted your stock intake to allow more air, that'd do it. &nbsp;Other than that, start modifying. &nbsp;Parasitic horsepower loss &nbsp;is one thing you can always do. &nbsp;Stock intake, ehxaust suck. &nbsp;You're not adding any internal parts to gain power. &nbsp;You'e letting the engine breathe better. &nbsp;Electric fan is always good. &nbsp;Takes out the 12 pound clutch fan. &nbsp;Goes back to the old adage, though. &nbsp;You can't get something for nothing.

[DSC]

heh, nismo14, sounds like your broke and about to go race somebody <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Oh and BTw, I wouldn't give up powersteering or AC ever.

[BlankFlip]

same here, it's really not worth it, unless u just race it n got another daily driver.

no, i heard about the advanced timing thing and have been wondering about it never understood it or new how to get it done

[BlankFlip]

i meant it's not worth it for the a/c n powersteering thing. advancing ur timing isn't a a performance type thing really. i mean, if ur car is idling bad or not running consistent, then u can advance ur timing n yeah it will run like it should. i really don't c what ur talking about.

hmmmm someone i know was working on an engine and did something and was talkin about degrees.... is this the timing??

[BlankFlip]

i'm not sure, its more of a maintenance type deal than performance, i don't know how to personally do it myself though, my friend did it for me, took him 5-10 minutes to get it just right.

you sure thats not the idle speed? i think these two are un-related....... but i dunno *shrugs*

[BlankFlip]

*shrugs* <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

i think we need a genius for this question LoL

[konkman]

You will get some noticable hp gains if you remove your resonator from your intake air box. &nbsp;Under &nbsp;your air box you can remove the large black plastic box and run a piece of aluminum flex tubing straight into your air box. &nbsp;This should give a horse or two.

But after you will notice a louder intake sound and better throttle response.

read the original question konkman

[91CRXsiR]

you can turn your heater on to take heat away from the engine bay.. if you advance the timing and make your car run rich you will need high octance like 92+.. you will need octance booster or get racing fuel..
to advance the timing you have to play with your CAM GEARS.. if you arent comfortable with playing around with your engine .. you shouldnt... just get some bolt ons or some do it yourself mods..

but i would really consider the power steering/ AC / cruise control ... relocation of the battery to add weight to the rear [ is this good for 240SX's?... my mentality comes from honda tuning world? ]

[MazingerS14]

You can advance your base timing by 3 degrees or so as long as you run 91 Octane gas. &nbsp;It usually gives you a noticible gain in throttle response, increase in torque (3-4 ft-lbs) and maybe a pony or two. &nbsp;You don't need adjustable cam gears for this since this is a base timing adjustment. &nbsp;Just need a timing gun and adjust your distributor accordingly. &nbsp;The numbers I gave are from SR20DE engines but Nissan engines work pretty much the same. &nbsp;Almost all the SE-R/B platform Nissan guys do this as a freebie performance mod.

Don't know where you live but if it dosn't get extremely hot in the summer just get rid of your mechanical clutch fan. &nbsp;There is a secondary electric fan that turns on around 205 degrees so that should be adequate as long as your cooling system is in good shape. &nbsp;You could also add some water wetter just to be on the safe side if you remove the clutch fan.

[whateverjames]

is the car not in your name? leasing it? sharing the car with someone in the family? selling it soon? just curious why you don't won't alter anything.

i've already got an intake and exhaust can't afford anything more expensive so i wanted to know how to get soem cheap stuff done i think i know a guy who can do the timing for me so yah <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

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Yadjust your distributor accordingly.

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how do u do this?

[konkman]

Lets stomp on others for trying to help. &nbsp;Maybe next time you should advance an email with your car's current stats before chopping.

If you were running a stock intake system and wanted more power this is a good idea. &nbsp;Besides when did the intake protion of your car stop being part of where your &quot;engine&quot; gets power? &nbsp;Or did I miss that post?

[S13Grl]

Oh, what love...

Nismo, there's no such thing as free power. Gotta spend some $<span style='font-size:10pt;line-height:100%'>$</span>$<span style='font-size:10pt;line-height:100%'>$</span> to get a little faster.
Advancing your timing would be a maintenance item, as everyone else has said. Get rid of as much un-needed weight as possible. You're fine with intake &amp; exhaust for now, we all start somewhere. As a matter of fact, most of us here will only have intake and exhaust.
People, chill a little bit, what's with all the hostility?

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Lets stomp on others for trying to help.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

i sincerely apologize konkman i didnt mean to be rude...... im just an idiot sometimes, now can we hug and make up?

[wherezmytofu]

well.....no engine is made equal...engine's are made in a asyembly line.....so they arent perfect out the factory....what you can do is grap a helms manual,and take your whole stock engien apart....u will have to get new gaskets like head gaskets and other gaskets that arnt reusable....clean the whole engine out and then put it back 2gether with the exacpt specs that they r suppose 2 be...like torque and other little things.....i've seen as much as a 30hp gain from an old engine <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Grant]

nevermind


(Edited by Grant at 11:54 am on Nov. 13, 2001)

[Gold240se]

I've done a little reasearch on this almost free horespower. &nbsp;Aside from the timing thing, I didn't come up with any thing other taking off the resonator. &nbsp;and you already have a CAI. &nbsp;The only thing phrase that comes to mind is nothing in life is free <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

I think Axl's pimpin'! &nbsp;

[konkman]

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Lets stomp on others for trying to help.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

i sincerely apologize konkman i didnt mean to be rude...... im just an idiot sometimes, now can we hug and make up?
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I'll accept, as long as you don't mind hugging a 350lbs man, who is 5'4&quot;, has a great comb over, a b.o. problem, sweats profusely, and has rashes on his inner arms and legs. &nbsp;

Otherwise I'm game.

JK

(Edited by konkman at 9:12 pm on Nov. 13, 2001)

no problem as long as u don't mind hugging me 5'2 419 pounds just ask Irena she know'z <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[konkman]

So we will look like a pair of 8 balls having a meeting of the bellies? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

yep <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> bouncey bouncey bouncey LoL

[gh6o6]

less weight = less power need to get going. dont fill your gas tank all the way - you will be lighter and will run faster. keep it full in the winter for better traction

gas is heavy

[S13Grl]

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less weight = less power need to get going. dont fill your gas tank all the way - you will be lighter and will run faster. keep it full in the winter for better traction

gas is heavy</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

It's hard for him since he weighs 400lbs <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>.

Hey guys, NismoS14's picture is posted up in the pics section <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>.

Now, as far as weight is concerned, we're on the same page here. I tried mentioning that up on top, but no one paid attention to me (hmph!). There really isn't anything else to do... Except getting a turbo <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> but that isn't so free, is it?

yah go take a look at my sexy boday *does a pose* mmmhm <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> n e who's...... im gonna take out my system..... im sure about 50 lbs of stereo stuff in the rear would make a nice difference...... but wat m i gonna do about bump?? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

[Chokudori]

If you have an AC fan, you could easily take of the main fan and just leave it at that. Your engine temperature will go up by like 5-10degrees, but the AC fan kicks on after you reach certain temperature. You should feel some gain past 5000rpm.
I wouldn't do this in the summer though...