View Full Version : Check it, My solids sr20det 9k
japside4life
09-14-2008, 08:50 AM
YouTube - Cia Performance 9k rpm sr20det (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJRZdk3i3XY)
YouTube - CIA perfromance sr20det 9k rpm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT8_IURuNxU)
i really went through some shit this last year to get my head solid, i bought the conversion from a guy off FA, where you send him your lifters and he converts em and gives you a pack of shims. And well about 7 other people did the same thing and they all got fucked over with me, never got our lifters back or our shims. Oh yeah or our money.........
so i took it upon myself to get my own shims and convert my own lifters, i did a lot of research and that good stuff, ive got em in my car now and in a few other cars around here.
well these things work and are super awesometown legit
aNskY
09-14-2008, 09:59 AM
very nice, what turbo are you running?
japside4life
09-14-2008, 12:08 PM
its a gt2871r
((sr)) kelly
09-14-2008, 12:10 PM
nasty... what are you tuning with?
BiG MiKE86
09-14-2008, 12:14 PM
awesome - thats gotta feel lovely revvin to 9k!
japside4life
09-14-2008, 12:15 PM
enthalpy rom
im gonna throw some supertech springs in and ditch the greddys i got and peg the tach a few times just for fun:) lol
grnappletree14
09-14-2008, 11:44 PM
very nice. can we please have a video of the car driving. we want to see how it performs of the street.
japside4life
09-15-2008, 09:32 AM
YouTube - Hydraulic Ebrake initiation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq95tnvbgjI)
btw im selling these solid sr lifter kits if anyone wants more info on them PM me.
Z33dori
09-15-2008, 09:40 AM
lets get some driving footage dammint...
my buddy is gonna blow his load... he wants his S14SR at 9k so bad...
japside4life
09-15-2008, 09:42 AM
look at the vid dude!!!! right above ur post, if that aint driving lol i dunno what is:)
japside4life
09-15-2008, 09:44 AM
and if that vid isnt enough here are moar lol
YouTube - burnout silvia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLit-G7nOnI&feature=user)
YouTube - Drifting Backroads (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w12UbQbRfNg&feature=user)
nismo 240sx
09-15-2008, 09:52 AM
thats some sick shit you there!
Z33dori
09-15-2008, 09:53 AM
those are all videos from last year..
i wanna hear it at 9k.... fuck that free revving shit
japside4life
09-15-2008, 10:13 AM
my engine is forsale homie, i think we are swapping it into a customers car, so i really dont want to go beatin on her right now:) i didnt have any intrest in her but last night a guy called me very intrested so i guess i really am going to get rid of my baby lol
im picking up another chassis to build, its going to get an s14 sr with bolt ons and my solids ill have some vids of that ripping it up at 9k, its gonna be my daily though, i have a truck now that i drive everyday but that bitch is a gas guzzler (im keepin the truck though to pull the race car to the track) lol. But my drift car is getting an LS1 after somone picks up this engine, ive been an sr20 guru for way too long, im ready for somthing different for my drift car, but dont worry im gonna have a daily spinning to 9k:)
SoSideways
09-15-2008, 01:14 PM
Sounds like you had a problem with Mattback.
Think he sorted it all out though... at least I thought he sorted all the solid lifter BS out with all the parties involved?
I don't know, if you didn't get it sorted with him, sorry to hear that.
VIPDRFT
09-15-2008, 01:15 PM
Mike's car is teh tits! GLWS on the parts and let me know if you ever make some for the KA.
P.S. Thanks again for fixing my car.
japside4life
09-15-2008, 03:30 PM
lol no problem man
btw sosideways nah me and mattback didnt have any problems he's a good guy, it was another guy.
my lifters are very very similiar to both their designs though just for your info, matt just didnt want to handle the business part of selling them, the other guy tried to do it but he was just a fucking tard and ran off with everyones cash. So i stepped up to the plate and I'm making these now for anyone who wants a set and im making sure one of these situations doesnt happen again.
FRpilot
09-15-2008, 03:43 PM
lol no problem man
btw sosideways nah me and mattback didnt have any problems he's a good guy, it was another guy.
my lifters are very very similiar to both their designs though just for your info, matt just didnt want to handle the business part of selling them, the other guy tried to do it but he was just a fucking tard and ran off with everyones cash.
when i first opened this thread, i was thinking of mattback too. i heard he fixed all his dealings and just too busy to do the business side of it, with engineering school and busy life.. very smart guy. i saw that he got really into bodybuilding within the last 2 years, lost a ton of weight, started counting calories, and was working out like 5 times a day.
my friend told me another company based in the US was going to build some bad ass SALs. i guess this might be the company that screwed everyone.
jspaeth
09-15-2008, 03:58 PM
to the OP...........maybe you can answer a question i have asked many times, but never got a GREAT answer...
How do you know how high the engine can rev safely..........is it just trial and error?
I plan on replacing springs, retainers, and cams, and adding rocker-arm stoppers, but NOT going with solid lifters.
How high can I rev then? Do I just have to base it off of others' experiences?
SoSideways
09-15-2008, 04:08 PM
jspaeth - if you want to rev that high, I'd recommend you change out your hydraulic lifters to the 00-01 SR20DE ones, and the rocker arms to the 98-99 SR20DE ones.
Andreas Miko (if you don't know who he is, he's a very respectable FWD SR20DE guru on the old sr20forum.com forums, and has messed with/built numerous badass SR20 motors, from NA to turbo) explained it a bit in this post right here:
SR20 Forum - View Single Post - Hints, Hints. There Are 3 Different Types Of Lifters. (http://www.sr20forum.com/380889-post27.html)
Following that discovery, I think somebody on FA actually bought some used lifters and rocker arms from SR20DEs of those years listed above, and took some pictures with the stock DET ones right next to them as a side by side comparison.
So, if I were you and going for high revs and staying HLA, I'd at least look into those valvetrain components along with Supertech valve springs and OEM retainers.
jspaeth
09-15-2008, 04:16 PM
I know I'm not gonna touch 9K without serious headwork, and that means solid lifters, etc.
Butttttt, that being said,
would good quality springs, cams, retainers, and RAS (say HKS) be enough to venture to 8,000?
......and this would just be for short bursts when winding it out, not holding it at redline for any extended period of time.....not for drifting
SoSideways
09-15-2008, 04:23 PM
^ did you click on the link I linked to on my last reply?
Because on that link, Miko did say that with some good aftermarket springs like JWT or Crower, and those newer rocker arms and lifters, add rocker arm stoppers, and your failure point would be when the valves actually hit the pistons from going too fast.
So, with that said, I'm sure 8000rpm would be fine, even in an extended period of time (top of 4th at the front straight of any major track, holding it for like 5 to 10 seconds each lap, etc).
But, if you want the peace of mind with extended high RPM usage and reliability, the solid lifters are the only way to go.
reccakun08
09-15-2008, 04:47 PM
what cams are you running?
fliprayzin240sx
09-15-2008, 05:33 PM
Hmm, 9k on a GT2871R, isnt that a lil excessive? Whats the chance the turbo is still making power after 8k??? Got a dyno sheet???
japside4life
09-15-2008, 06:09 PM
i have 264 bc cams, they are hydrualic cams, you can run a hydraulic cam with my lifter no problem whatsoever.
you wont make it OVER 8k for long on HLA's, you can take an sr to 8 though with just good valve springs
RAS are junk, most important part of the sr20 head are the springs and the lifter.
Im doing 9k on stock retainers as well as some of my customers.
well you could say 9k on a 2871r is excessive, but it all depends what kind of driving your doing. My car is a drift car, you get into situations sometimes when power isnt that important but having enough gear and wheelspeed is, now some corners that were too tight for a 3rd gear slide, but 2nd gear wasnt enough, now it doesnt matter. I was only doing 70mph in 2nd, now i could have wheel speed up to 80+ if needed. This is very helpful on a drift car.
If you want a bullet proof head at 9k this is what u want
cams whatever you choose
retainers stock work perfect (go titanium if you really want but i have heard of them galling valves on street cars that see mileage)
springs supertech all the way
solid lifter of course
and i also run a custom dual guided valve set up instead of one shim and one guide
SoSideways
09-16-2008, 10:38 AM
Hmm, 9k on a GT2871R, isnt that a lil excessive? Whats the chance the turbo is still making power after 8k??? Got a dyno sheet???
Maybe for the .64 A/R 2871R, but I guarantee you the .86 A/R one would be sweet for 9k rpm :)
japside4life
09-16-2008, 10:54 AM
Maybe for the .64 A/R 2871R, but I guarantee you the .86 A/R one would be sweet for 9k rpm :)
yeah the .86 is pretty awesome for it, ive got both housings and have tried em both
RaVeNouS14
12-01-2008, 05:08 AM
Have you done a t3 twinscroll setup revving that high? just curious...
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