And i thought the GT R was faster than the C6 Z06

[ROIDMONKEY]

very disappointed , i just canceled mine . lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjmyt52-c8c

(http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9cWpteX Q1Mi1jOGM=)

[ThatGuy]

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[iwishiwas-all*]

i wouldnt give that race much credit, who the hell is driving hahah
even if it is faster in a straight line, the whole turning thing was never a big concern for the "big three" gtr all the way

[ROIDMONKEY]

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totally work for me . and i just got up from a nap , its perfectly time for internet ,

[S14DB]

Stock GTR vs "GULF Spec" z06...

Who cares about Oman HW racing?

[ellisonrox]

How about a race from a stop? Let's see that!

Not trying to be a fanboy, but just really being curious.

[mayco_86]

How about a race from a stop? Let's see that!

Not trying to be a fanboy, but just really being curious.

A race from the stop the GTR would win at least thats what car and driver said but after 100 miles an hour the z06 would win. Something like that.

[Icy13]

How about some of these:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Japanese_Road_sign(Double_sharp_turn,_the_first_to _the_left).svg/470px-Japanese_Road_sign(Double_sharp_turn,_the_first_to _the_left).svg.png

:):):):)

[racepar1]

The GTR beat both the z-06 and the 911 turbo by over 5 seconds at buttonwillow according to I think it was car and driver's testing. I care not what car is the fastest in a straight line, the GTR OWNED the living hell out of the z-06 at buttonwillow.

[ThatGuy]

totally work for me . and i just got up from a nap , its perfectly time for internet ,

Blah, originally didn't work.

So :fart:

[burnsauto]

Stock GTR vs "GULF Spec" z06...

Who cares about Oman HW racing?

yeah what the hell is "gulf spec"?

How about some of these:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Japanese_Road_sign(Double_sharp_turn,_the_first_to _the_left).svg/470px-Japanese_Road_sign(Double_sharp_turn,_the_first_to _the_left).svg.png

:):):):)

my thoughts exactly. america can make them go in a straight line, but after that...they get a little lost. (and its not like i have a biased, japan only, viewpoint.. just about any country BUT america can build a car to handle.)

[racepar1]

my thoughts exactly. america can make them go in a straight line, but after that...they get a little lost. (and its not like i have a biased, japan only, viewpoint.. just about any country BUT america can build a car to handle.)

Actually as far as professional road racing goes (which is all about handling) the united states and europe are leaps and bounds ahead of japan. Look at the le mans corvettes and the audi r-8's. Both of those cars DOMINATED the endurance racing world for years and as far as I know they still do, although I don't really keep up to date on racing anymore. Nothing from japan could touch either of those cars with a 100 ft pole! Also look at what GMPP did with their cobalt at the super street time attack a few years ago (the cobalt was designed by the vette design team by the way)! That car is an order of magnititude faster than any FWD car that has came here from japan, and I personally think it could easily take the FWD record at tsukuba. The current corvette is one of the most capable racing platforms in the world and anyone who decides to argue against that is a moron and obviously has never seen a LIGHTLY modded vette on r-compounds decimating all at a track event.

[heiyuu]

Actually as far as professional road racing goes (which is all about handling) the united states and europe are leaps and bounds ahead of japan. Look at the le mans corvettes and the audi r-8's. Both of those cars DOMINATED the endurance racing world for years and as far as I know they still do, although I don't really keep up to date on racing anymore. Nothing from japan could touch either of those cars with a 100 ft pole! Also look at what GMPP did with their cobalt at the super street time attack a few years ago (the cobalt was designed by the vette design team by the way)! That car is an order of magnititude faster than any FWD car that has came here from japan, and I personally think it could easily take the FWD record at tsukuba. The current corvette is one of the most capable racing platforms in the world and anyone who decides to argue against that is a moron and obviously has never seen a LIGHTLY modded vette on r-compounds decimating all at a track event.

Pretty sure they never drove, or even road in one either. Just hearsay bs.


The porsche in my sig however... will rape anything and everything so hard, their grandma will need a wheel chair!

[corriganjoshua]

There is a such a wide production of so many different cars its hard to be specific...but a very easy subject to gossip about. Being a huge car enthusiast I like them all.

[YoungGun]

Damn GTR got rocked, thought it would've at least held the Z06 off for awhile from the stop.

[hashiriya13]

Damn GTR got rocked, thought it would've at least held the Z06 off for awhile from the stop.

He must not have read the owners manual and set the auto make it faster launch control :keke:

[JRas]

It is faster...

[s13coupedrfter]

No replacement for displacement. Yeah the GTR will handle better but the Z06 held it's ground.

[gunmetalrps]

not biased or anything but that doesnt seem right at all...hmm.

[slothonaleash]

Word on the street's that Gulf Spec anythings are the things to beat.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q196/b00st3d240/242-Volvo-Gulf-Oil-39.jpg

[KwKouki]

YAY they just proved who had the better top end......how in the fuck does that hold water when comparing 2 cars again?

[ryguy]

Maybe American cars couldnt turn 20 years ago, but if you still think America cant make a car that turns you should pull your head out of your ass. The fastest production car to EVER lap the Nordschleife was a Corvette. The fastest FWD to EVER lap it was a Cobalt. Need I mention the Top Gear episode about the Cadillac CTS-V?

[KwKouki]

I know the new vette can handle a turn, but it seems people are ignoring the fact that it just got its ass handed to it and now throwing "omg look its faster in a straight beat that" in the mix.

both cars rock

[ROIDMONKEY]

Blah, originally didn't work.

So :fart:
only for a sec :) . i win

[David Steele]

AND THEN the GTR owner discovered that his car had turbochargers that forced more air into his engine which he could augment for more boost pressure / the end.


Seriously... that isn't a big difference he hung there for a good what 7-10 seconds. Reflash. It increases the boost (Z06 can't do) result changes and leaves a ''??? face'' for Mr z06 owner . Seriously if that's your deciding factor on buying this car you aren't very wise in that subject.

[Fast1One]

Maybe American cars couldnt turn 20 years ago, but if you still think America cant make a car that turns you should pull your head out of your ass. The fastest production car to EVER lap the Nordschleife was a Corvette. The fastest FWD to EVER lap it was a Cobalt. Need I mention the Top Gear episode about the Cadillac CTS-V?It doesn't count if they make up for it on the straightaways :keke:

[s13coupedrfter]

AND THEN the GTR owner discovered that his car had turbochargers that forced more air into his engine which he could augment for more boost pressure / the end.


Seriously... that isn't a big difference he hung there for a good what 7-10 seconds. Reflash. It increases the boost (Z06 can't do) result changes and leaves a ''??? face'' for Mr z06 owner . Seriously if that's your deciding factor on buying this car you aren't very wise in that subject.

I think I watched a different video than you did, each time the GTR got owned. However, I would like to see a off the line start.

The rawness of the 7.0L of N/A power was to much for the GTR, more boost or not.

If you want to use the forced induction vs. N/A argument then let's put a supercharger on the Z06 and compare again.

[RurouniMidnight]

maybe it had the 180km limiter on :duh:

[C. Senor]

i'll give credit to nissan in making the gtr. they did a greta effing job. but comparison is so difficult between cars of different origin. they are built so differently. bring in the clk black series against both those cars and that will give them a greta run for the money. but they are built differently. having driven the z06, the aforementioned black series, and the turbo. they are all fanf***ingtastic in their own rights. havnt driven the gtr, so i have no comment, only paper opinions which are no good in real life.

[SimpleSexy180]

could have they made LESS SHITTY VIDEO?

[mayco_86]

I think I watched a different video than you did, each time the GTR got owned. However, I would like to see a off the line start.

The rawness of the 7.0L of N/A power was to much for the GTR, more boost or not.

If you want to use the forced induction vs. N/A argument then let's put a supercharger on the Z06 and compare again.

Well super charged ZO6 or not, this is a stock GTR and that my friend would handle a stock C6 corvette any day of the week now if u wanna compare wait until they bring out a Ztune version of the R35 GTR thats sounds more like a massacre that your C6 Z06 would get.:whip:

[KwKouki]

you cant bring the ztune into this discussion, they made like 20 of them

[mayco_86]

you cant bring the ztune into this discussion, they made like 20 of them
Ok than Nismo Version upgraded turbos ECU etc :blah: i got all night!

[Pank]

why is everyone asking to see them race from a stop? They did it twice

[murda-c]

Well super charged ZO6 or not, this is a stock GTR and that my friend would handle a stock C7 corvette any day of the week now if u wanna compare wait until they bring out a Ztune version of the R35 GTR thats sounds more like a massacre that your C7 Z06 would get.:whip:


where the hell did you get c7 from?

[xpl2007]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AX6T39GV8Cg&feature=related

[s13coupedrfter]

Well super charged ZO6 or not, this is a stock GTR and that my friend would handle a stock C7 corvette any day of the week now if u wanna compare wait until they bring out a Ztune version of the R35 GTR thats sounds more like a massacre that your C7 Z06 would get.:whip:

We can speculate all the different combo's in the world but the fact is the Z06 beat the r35 on a rolling start. Handling is a completly different subject.

The reasond I mentioned the supercharger was to respond to the forced induction vs. n/a argument by David Steely.

As for the 7.0L of rawness statement I feel the V8 n/a power is something awsome compared to the R35 V6 that needs turbo's to be fast. Not saying you can't build a fast V6 n/a engine but I'm only comparing the Z06 and R35 powerplants.

[Rocko]

Actually as far as professional road racing goes (which is all about handling) the united states and europe are leaps and bounds ahead of japan. Look at the le mans corvettes and the audi r-8's. Both of those cars DOMINATED the endurance racing world for years and as far as I know they still do, although I don't really keep up to date on racing anymore. Nothing from japan could touch either of those cars with a 100 ft pole! Also look at what GMPP did with their cobalt at the super street time attack a few years ago (the cobalt was designed by the vette design team by the way)! That car is an order of magnititude faster than any FWD car that has came here from japan, and I personally think it could easily take the FWD record at tsukuba. The current corvette is one of the most capable racing platforms in the world and anyone who decides to argue against that is a moron and obviously has never seen a LIGHTLY modded vette on r-compounds decimating all at a track event.

Pretty much my thoughts on the matter.

Anyone who thinks corvettes don't handel has never been to an AutoX event....

[eek]

Both cars are daym fast. Yes the GTR needs 2 turbos to be fast, but its also a smaller dissplacement motor with 2 less cylinders. Its like saying that the 911 turbo needs 2 turbos to be fast. 7.0L vs a 3.7TT is hardly a comparison. Even if the GTR is slower in a straight line, it still held its ground for a bit. I'm not going to even talk about if the driver even knew how to drive that GTR or not. Both are great cars. It would be a daym hard for me to choose if I could even afford either car.

[burnsauto]

Actually as far as professional road racing goes (which is all about handling) the united states and europe are leaps and bounds ahead of japan. Look at the le mans corvettes and the audi r-8's. Both of those cars DOMINATED the endurance racing world for years and as far as I know they still do, although I don't really keep up to date on racing anymore. Nothing from japan could touch either of those cars with a 100 ft pole! Also look at what GMPP did with their cobalt at the super street time attack a few years ago (the cobalt was designed by the vette design team by the way)! That car is an order of magnititude faster than any FWD car that has came here from japan, and I personally think it could easily take the FWD record at tsukuba. The current corvette is one of the most capable racing platforms in the world and anyone who decides to argue against that is a moron and obviously has never seen a LIGHTLY modded vette on r-compounds decimating all at a track event.

nice opinion, i'll keep mine. ;)

remember, its not like i have a japanese bias...im actually more of a fan of german cars, lol. You may be right about the Z06, even I can admit its a good car, but I'm talking overall... but factory trim base to mid-level cars just don't do it for me.

That cobalt cant really be used as an example....hardly anything was still factory on that car, basically just the sheet metal. That car was a good example of an unlimited budget and resources. That car didn't show what an american car manufacturer can do, it showed what a race team can do.

Im not talking race cars, Im talking factory trim.

[s13coupedrfter]

Both cars are daym fast. Yes the GTR needs 2 turbos to be fast, but its also a smaller dissplacement motor with 2 less cylinders. Its like saying that the 911 turbo needs 2 turbos to be fast. 7.0L vs a 3.7TT is hardly a comparison. Even if the GTR is slower in a straight line, it still held its ground for a bit. I'm not going to even talk about if the driver even knew how to drive that GTR or not. Both are great cars. It would be a daym hard for me to choose if I could even afford either car.

Thanks captin obvious.

[murda-c]

I really don't see why people care so much about how many cylinders a car has.

[Sileighty_85]

How do we know this video was not created just to fuck with ppls minds. They are two unknown drivers, with two unknow cars, (Well the GTR is obliviously stock) Driving in an uncontrolled enviornment
How do we know that the Z06 was stock?
Shit could have had NOS or a super charger or some shit for all we know.

[BlueKpS13]

How do we know this video was not created just to fuck with ppls minds. They are two unknown drivers, with two unknow cars, (Well the GTR is obliviously stock) Driving in an uncontrolled enviornment
How do we know that the Z06 was stock?
Shit could have had NOS or a super charger or some shit for all we know.

yup theres no way to tell anything about these cars other than the color of them

[MegasquirtCA]

I think I watched a different video than you did, each time the GTR got owned. However, I would like to see a off the line start.

The rawness of the 7.0L of N/A power was to much for the GTR, more boost or not.

If you want to use the forced induction vs. N/A argument then let's put a supercharger on the Z06 and compare again.



If the rumored lap time on Top Gears Track is true for the GTR than the Z06 got raped by it a good 5 seconds. Again thats if the rumored lap time is true. We'll find out tomorrow.

[s13coupedrfter]

If the rumored lap time on Top Gears Track is true for the GTR than the Z06 got raped by it a good 5 seconds. Again thats if the rumored lap time is true. We'll find out tomorrow.

Like I said before in this thread, handling is a completly different subject. The vid sounds cool though.

[IdriveaNissan]

how the fk the z launched like a rocket compared to the gtr?
either fake or retarded driver

[s13 @ fullboost]

I would much rather Have the GTR over the Z06 not only because of power specs and such but because the GTR looks so much better than the Z06 the styling is beautiful

[IdriveaNissan]

i would take the z06 over gtr in terms of EXTERNAL styling but not performance though :)

[flip3d]

damn rich oil people in the middle east. we need to stop buying oil from them.

[Z U L8R]

i heard the zr1 vette kicked the shit outta the gtr on the nerburgring (sp)

muwhahahahhahaha

[warpd]

i heard the zr1 vette kicked the shit outta the gtr on the nerburgring (sp)

muwhahahahhahaha

Thats because it did. And that motor is basically a destroked LS7 with a blower.

American cars can't handle? , where do you people come up with this shit.:rofl:

[racepar1]

nice opinion, i'll keep mine. ;)

remember, its not like i have a japanese bias...im actually more of a fan of german cars, lol. You may be right about the Z06, even I can admit its a good car, but I'm talking overall... but factory trim base to mid-level cars just don't do it for me.

That cobalt cant really be used as an example....hardly anything was still factory on that car, basically just the sheet metal. That car was a good example of an unlimited budget and resources. That car didn't show what an american car manufacturer can do, it showed what a race team can do.

Im not talking race cars, Im talking factory trim.


Actually the GMPP cobalt's suspension was stock, off the shelf GM stuff. It can totally be used as an example because I am not comparing it to stock cars, I am comparing it to other modded cars. The cobalt in stock form is a VERY capable platform as well. The thing is US manufacturers do not attempt to make most of their cars handle well as they are being marketed to an audience that does not care about handling, but rather comfort. Japanese and european cars are originally manufactured to appeal to japanese and europeans, and they care more about handling than the typical idiot american. Personally I think ford and chrysler are extra super ghey and would not consider buying a single one of their products. GM on the other hand has some good shit out there. Your opinion is wrong and un-educated. You may keep it if you like, but I believe it proves that you are an idiot.

[Rocko]

Thats because it did. And that motor is basically a destroked LS7 with a blower.
:rofl:

I actually read in one of the major car mags that it was a reworked LS3 6.2 litre, they said they wanted the thicker cylinder walls if i remember right.

both cars are amazing in their own way...very different, but both designed to take on the 911tt but very different approaches.

[Vision Garage]

Everyone needs to shut up!!!! We all know the 240sx is the KING OF ALL CARS!

Ya damn Fruitcakes. 240sx or GTFO!!