Dg-5

[Dousan_PG]

i usually dont start threads like this at all..
but im too excited for this one hahaa


so i finally took the big jump. and bought new coilovers


DG-5

talked with some buddies who use them both in Japan and the USA and got such positive results on it im really pleased w/ the purchase.

When i was in Japan last year my friends told me how great they were over and over.

Anyways.
Should go on this weekend
Aligned in a few weeks
Finishing my turbo/tune change over and then hit the track by Just Drift Rd 2 at Horse Thief Mile.

Nothing like a shakedown at HTM!

rear seems to be aluminum
front is beefy as can be
quality looks great
welds are nice
SWIFT springs..
and so on and so on

PICS:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/dg-5.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/dg-5001.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/dg-5002.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/dg-5003.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/dg-5004.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/dg-5005.jpg



thanks to DriftSpeed!!
www.driftspeed.com
www.dg-5.co.jp
Quoc rules!

[240trainee]

Nice dude, will be interested to see how you like em.

[s13.5ftw]

damn baller..2500 better be worth it lol

[rps13drift]

Very nice! They look like great coilovers and you cant beat swift springs!
BTW! congrats on getting on D.A!!!! That is fucking awesome!

[S13Boosts]

woot baller! nice it comes with swift springs!

[exitspeed]

Are they comparable to other coils (from what your friends told you)? Price? Availability? Or is this a JDM hook-up only?

EDIT: Just saw the price on the link. BALLIN!

[Dousan_PG]

thanks rps13drift
much appreciated!!

availability is thru driftspeed.
i could have grey marketed them like i do most stuff but i just have no mood to do that now
i got them from driftspeed directly.
they are in orange county. went there before work..

oh crap im late for work
gotta go!!

[azndoc]

Ummm yeah I don't need to say what I feel about this.

Damn it Aaron.

We'll discuss this in private.

ONE UPper.

[PoorMans180SX]

Oh so pretty!

Trial at HTM eh? that should definitely test them well.

[DP_Michelle G]

Wow those are so pretty!!

Hope everything goes well!!

Enjoy!!

[s13silvia123]

please give a review for these when you drive on them and when your at the tracks comparing them to the ones you used.

[Sonic Motor]

ohhh i was hoping someone was going to post something like this...
Cuz I am thinking of getting these for my next coilovers...

[Slidin240Wayz]

Makin it rain

[b4racing]

damn baller..2500 better be worth it lol

it would only be that much if you like to get bent over with no lube.

[gprb25]

I saw a previous post saying you were picking these up, so I went out on the net and checked them out. All I hear is good reviews..

Can you tell me one thing though...what is the spray can for? Is it lubrication for the springs or what?

[s13coupe805]

:2f2f: Props to Dousan for getting baller ass coilovers, DG-5 and Driftspeed ftw

[MikeisNissan]

geez where do you guys get the money for this.

[MrChow]

oo that's hawt. Give us a review Aaron!!

[Dousan_PG]

money? get a real job? full time job!

FINISH YOUR SCHOOLING
and get a real job.

anyways
yeah that can is lubrication..probalby just brake cleaner or something. haha.
im sure ill get it in the eyes some how and it will burn like brake cleaner does. or on some open cuts.

ill def do a review later


right now i run STANCE GR + PRO
which is great
ive had Tein HE as my frist coilover (S13)
went to JIC FLTA2 (S13)
then i did Tanabe DD (S14)
then Stance GR+ Pro (s14)
then Stance GR+ PRO (s13)
now these DG-5s

i love the stance adn thes upport.
seems the DG-5 Support is great too just a call and a freeway drive away! :)

I will probably get some STANCE again for another s13..thinking of making a new daily s13. haha...KA

[SlideWell]

im very interested to hear how these are, and if possible, how you compare them to Silks. i was either going with Silks or DG-5, but ended up snagging a set of Yashio Factory. Great purchase no doubt!!! :bigok:

[Aeroscraper326]

Damn Dohsan.
Sweet stuff.

These coils stole my girlfriend:(

[lflkajfj12123]

these are basically kei's right

atleast the spawn of them

[gprb25]

^you are pretty much correct^

Full time job FTW!

[SoSideways]

these are basically kei's right

atleast the spawn of them

DG-5 suspension was designed by Keiichi Tsuchiya, or he at least had some role in that company.

Kei Office is no more. DG-5 is the new company I think.

[Dousan_PG]

compared w/ silk??
fro serious?
just look at each coilover and tell me what u think..
just look at the sizing and valving.

[SlideWell]

they look beefy
im not a suspension guru. just wanted to hear any feedback what you like and what you may not like about them.

[holaback]

geez where do you guys get the money for this.

J O B SON

son

[holaback]

compared w/ silk??
fro serious?
just look at each coilover and tell me what u think..
just look at the sizing and valving.


He just bought into the hype of the zilvia's generic jdm coilover of the month bandwagon hype and acually believed they all great as they were with no backing or reason to even kno why they were suosed to be so great....

Big ups to DG5's btw. I had a set of Kei Office XR's and they were the best coilovers I ever had. Went from FLT-A2 orginally.

[revat619]

Good looking coilovers.

To be be perfectly honest though, they look just like stances. I mean, i know you always buy good shit, so i know they're legit. I'm just saying...Stance with a swift spring and voila!

I could be ENTIRELY wrong though. :bow:

Why make the switch anyway? Just curious.

[Creizai]

Did you go with the 8/6 or did you match your stance setup and 9/7? Cant wait for your review!

[Dousan_PG]

ill compare w/ my stance this weekend


IM NOT KNOCKING STANCE!

I LOVE STANCE
just i upgraded brands, DG-5 is use by most of the Pros i know (D1GP, D1SL and FD)
!

I LOVE STANCE
best dudes ever: touge factory
those guys always have helped me out.
i wouldnt be where i am now if it wasnt for them!!!

[jobestudios]

Basically, its one of those if you have $1300 to spend on coilovers, get stance, but if you have $2500 to spend on coilovers, get DG5?

:)

ill compare w/ my stance this weekend


IM NOT KNOCKING STANCE!

I LOVE STANCE
just i upgraded brands, DG-5 is use by most of the Pros i know (D1GP, D1SL and FD)
!

I LOVE STANCE
best dudes ever: touge factory
those guys always have helped me out.
i wouldnt be where i am now if it wasnt for them!!!

[Ian]

How much are DG-5?


I'd really like to know the scientific differences that make this a better driving coilover for drifting.

[Brian]

Dousan is the king.

[lflkajfj12123]

How much are DG-5?


I'd really like to know the scientific differences that make this a better driving coilover for drifting.

http://www.racer.nl/reference/carphys.htm#susploc

[Dousan_PG]

check the site, retail pricing is there.
i dont know what it is otherwise.

to jobestudios, yeah
its like that for anything

i could buy extreme dimensions aero
or i can go w/ BN sports
i took the latter.

ebay turbo vs garrett
te37s vs mb motorings

its all a choice. pick what u want and do it.
i dont buy stuff to appease other people
i buy what i want

[hellaflush]

helper springs? ugh... already turned off by them

ill stick with my silks :)

[Dousan_PG]

what?
helper springs are the shit
best thing u could EVER do on coilovers

are you high???

[Ian]

Helper springs just keep the main spring captive when the shock fully extends right?


What else do the do?


haha suspension 101...I feel like I don't know shit

[Dousan_PG]

lowers the shock piston in the 'sweet spot'
gives u full range of the shock
especially when ur car is low, the shock doesnt compress all tha tmuch w/ a high spring rate
u get more shock travel

use full rebound/compression

on a good shock, thats good.


also yes keeps your shock in place if u have the wheels off the ground
either jumping at the track or change wheels or leaving driveways

i use to always lift wheels front and rear
when it sets BANG loud noise while it sets back down

i dont get that anymore w/ helpers springs.

[cxlo8331]

um, my pants are tight.

[mrmephistopheles]

Damn.
I wish I was into drifting more so I could justify buying these. These are the first new coils in a long while that don't look chintzy to me.

I especially love that the bottom of the rear shocks doesn't taper to a 10mm diameter, and that the front shock mounts are braced like crazy.

[Aeroscraper326]

Just ordered a set.. Swift springs 10k/12k.
Can't wait!

Dousan what spring rates?

[Ian]

lowers the shock piston in the 'sweet spot'
gives u full range of the shock
especially when ur car is low, the shock doesnt compress all tha tmuch w/ a high spring rate
u get more shock travel

use full rebound/compression

on a good shock, thats good.




ah cool stuff, did not know this


I have STANCE GR+ right now and frankly, I'm not good enough to notice the difference in a better coilover system IMO. Maybe one day I can get a set of these though

[initial_drifter]

Think the price might be that high cuz it's made by Kei Office?

hopefully when i'm done paying my bill i'll be able to get a set :)

[raen419]

Looks good Aaron.
I'm interested to hear your review...esp. compared to Stance GR+ Pro.
I'm not a fan of Stance after seeing shock dynos, but I would imagine for $2500, these shocks are far better.

[Aeroscraper326]

Stance makes great coils for a great price, switch the springs and you will be satisfied up until a very high level of driving.

I know alot of people who run stances, on the streets, the tracks and the Pro circuit blah blah. These people hold licenses ranging from NOPI to FD to D1. And All of them are quite happy with stances. Especially for the price.

Plus, all the lower end stuff comes from the same country (taiwan), unlike the DG-5.
The thing is, most of you only get coilovers to lower your car, improve handling, and to say you have coilovers. Can the lower end stuff perform like the 2.5k+ stuff, of course not. But, 90% of you cannot drive well enough, and do not drive hard enough to tell the difference, or for it to matter. Coilovers are a big investment and will improve your driving. and i doubt that you will be dissatisfied by Stance.

But the only thing that really matter (ESPECIALLY for drifting..oh wait, make that any motor sport) is seat time and the driver himself.:hs:

[IIIXziuR]

Shit man this thread is awesome.
Congrats on everything sir!!!!

THE CLOCK SAYS: PARTY TIME

[KiDyNomiTe]

Although some disagree to these kinds of plots.

http://www.tougefactory.com/blog/?p=25

DG-5s are the shit in Japan though. Let us know how they compare, they should feel fairly similar.

[articdragon192]

lowers the shock piston in the 'sweet spot'
gives u full range of the shock
especially when ur car is low, the shock doesnt compress all tha tmuch w/ a high spring rate
u get more shock travel

use full rebound/compression

on a good shock, thats good.


also yes keeps your shock in place if u have the wheels off the ground
either jumping at the track or change wheels or leaving driveways

i use to always lift wheels front and rear
when it sets BANG loud noise while it sets back down

i dont get that anymore w/ helpers springs.


So does this mean taking out preload to lower the shock piston is a good thing if done properly?

[raen419]

Stance makes great coils for a great price, switch the springs and you will be satisfied up until a very high level of driving.

I know alot of people who run stances, on the streets, the tracks and the Pro circuit blah blah. These people hold licenses ranging from NOPI to FD to D1. And All of them are quite happy with stances. Especially for the price.

Plus, all the lower end stuff comes from the same country (taiwan), unlike the DG-5.
The thing is, most of you only get coilovers to lower your car, improve handling, and to say you have coilovers. Can the lower end stuff perform like the 2.5k+ stuff, of course not. But, 90% of you cannot drive well enough, and do not drive hard enough to tell the difference, or for it to matter. Coilovers are a big investment and will improve your driving. and i doubt that you will be dissatisfied by Stance.

But the only thing that really matter (ESPECIALLY for drifting..oh wait, make that any motor sport) is seat time and the driver himself.:hs:
Very true statement, mostly.
I prefer Koni though...plus I like putting things together myself (Koni 8610 is in the works after I have the cash, and feel like getting rid of my Tein HE).
Btw, KiD, nice post. I like the dyno for the DG-5's. Very impressive. I wonder if they make/build their shocks, or outsource.

[Ian]

Although some disagree to these kinds of plots.

http://www.tougefactory.com/blog/?p=25

DG-5s are the shit in Japan though. Let us know how they compare, they should feel fairly similar.


so is this saying w/ swift springs, STANCE would be a relatively close second to DG-5 in on track feel and performance?

[raen419]

so is this saying w/ swift springs, STANCE would be a relatively close second to DG-5 in on track feel and performance?
Supposing that the plots posted were 100% accurate, yes.
Most would not even notice the difference though.
I would imagine Aaron will though. Over the years, he's got more seat time than most on this forum.

[lflkajfj12123]

from swift springs usa's site

assist springs

Assist springs have two functions. The first is the spring adds a progressive rate to the initial portion of the stroke. This progression can add increased comfort is used on a daily driver coilover setup that has stiff springs installed. It provides racers added softer spring rate progression. Once the assist crushes, the normal spring rate will take over.
The second job is the same as helper springs. They prevent the loss of traction during rebound, and extreme cornering.

Assist springs are designed to repeatedly be fully crushed. Every assist spring crushes to the same height. That allows drivers to change assist springs without resetting the spring perch on coilover without changing ride height. helper springsSwift helper springs are specially designed to provide minimal effect on spring rate. Using helper springs allows the spring to stay firmly on its perch when the shock has negative or zero load. Driver should use helper springs if they experience springs coming loose from their perch and/or they can not preload the main spring because of car height issue.

[McRussellPants]

I would imagine Aaron will though. Over the years, he's got more seat time than most on this forum.

hahahahaha.


Shock dyno kinda makes me want to Chechen out those racing gears.

[Kouki-Fiend]

Very nice but way too deep in the baller status for me to pick up......with a full time job. In the future maybe I just can justify buying a coilover set that costs more then my engine and trans.

[silnismo]

wow, never seen a coilover having supports on where the bottom mounts up to.

is it necessary? probably not

is it kool? VERY!

[Dousan_PG]

yeah they are sweet as hell. everyone loves them they are amazing

compared w/stance same compression/rebound? etc..er....we'll see

i talked w/ a few friends that drive in the USA and they were like..er....probably not


ok so anyways it goes on today after brunch here and ill take some pics of the 2

we'll see how it goe on the track, thats where the real test is!

[Edgar]

these look like money

[SoSideways]

Although some disagree to these kinds of plots.

http://www.tougefactory.com/blog/?p=25

DG-5s are the shit in Japan though. Let us know how they compare, they should feel fairly similar.

The DG-5s are much softer initially between 0 and 0.1m/sec, so I would imagine they would soak up bumps much better than the Stance.

[Ian]

yeah...and I feel like those seemingly small differences is what really raises the bar from STANCE to DG-5

[Dousan_PG]

im really not in the mood for comparing stuff
so i just took one pic. becasue i dont care that much
haha

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/dg-5008.jpg

on the car

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/dg-5013.jpg

[LongGrain]

Although some disagree to these kinds of plots.

http://www.tougefactory.com/blog/?p=25

DG-5s are the shit in Japan though. Let us know how they compare, they should feel fairly similar.

damn, that makes me feel good about my gr+ pros. I still want to run swift springs though.

[brainfood]

Im hoping to make the switch soon too! Cant wait till my car is done and I can run into you.

[Dousan_PG]

god our two cars at the track would blow people's minds

hahahaha
AMAZING!

YES!!

btw ill call about the elbow this week so i can do it this weekend!!!!

thanks!
i buy all my piping on thursday..payday!!

[lflkajfj12123]

The DG-5s are much softer initially between 0 and 0.1m/sec, so I would imagine they would soak up bumps much better than the Stance.

thats why helper springs are great, but dg-5's with helper springs is even better :[

[brainfood]

god our two cars at the track would blow people's minds

hahahaha
AMAZING!

YES!!

btw ill call about the elbow this week so i can do it this weekend!!!!

thanks!
i buy all my piping on thursday..payday!!

Np I am still waiting on selling some shit before I can finish mine up so it will be a couple weeks before I even need it. And yes it needs to happen because it will be amazing! BN 180 GT3071 Twin Drift Madness!

[hitman]

what makes swift springs so good?

[Dousan_PG]

i stuck w/ the 8/6kg!

stance isnt the same
i knwo enough people who run dg5 vs other brands
like i said, drivers in japan and usa
and they said dg5 blows away everything else
even my friends who are amatuer drifters like me who did the same as me....go for broke for coilovers!!!

doriten didnt inculde the stance
and it didnt list speeds the tests were done out so imo, that dyno is inaccurante between the twho


again not knocking stance, they worked great
but i know theres no comparison.

[dynamicck]

You do not need helper springs with bottom height adjustable coilovers. Typically coilovers that are made in Europe that have to pass TUV, they are not height adjustable like "most" japanese coilovers. Like K&W, Bilstein, or other coilovers that have a threaded shock body where you raise and lower the height....that's where you need a helper springs.

[whatjohnboy]

driftspeed is awwesome!!! get all my stuff there!! and ima me buying quoc's coupe!! muahahaa

[Ghostdrifter]

money? get a real job? full time job!

FINISH YOUR SCHOOLING
and get a real job.

anyways
yeah that can is lubrication..probalby just brake cleaner or something. haha.
im sure ill get it in the eyes some how and it will burn like brake cleaner does. or on some open cuts.

ill def do a review later


right now i run STANCE GR + PRO
which is great
ive had Tein HE as my frist coilover (S13)
went to JIC FLTA2 (S13)
then i did Tanabe DD (S14)
then Stance GR+ Pro (s14)
then Stance GR+ PRO (s13)
now these DG-5s

i love the stance adn thes upport.
seems the DG-5 Support is great too just a call and a freeway drive away! :)

I will probably get some STANCE again for another s13..thinking of making a new daily s13. haha...KA


I gots a question. Do you like the Stance GR+ Pro's better than the FLT-A2's?

[Kouki]

From the pic you posted of the stance and dg-5s next to each other, looks like the stance can go about 1.5" lower in the front due to the shorter springs, but the dg-5s look like they will have more travel with the longer spring and body looks a lil longer as well. Those look fuckin nice! I'm happy with my gr+pro for now but make sure you let us know how they perform compared to the stances that you had. Performance is 1234145x more important than just beefy looks and cool anodized colors.

[Dousan_PG]

yeah i liked teh GR+ pro more then the flta2
and mroe then the Tein HE

yes stance has a shorter front spring
i have to see if its an option on the DG5
personally im OVER that 'lower business'
i want grip and tons of it

[turtl631]

The DG-5s are much softer initially between 0 and 0.1m/sec, so I would imagine they would soak up bumps much better than the Stance.


Low shaft speeds, like 0.1 m/s and under, are generally associated with cornering, braking, etc. A lot of compression force here gives you more body control. Bumps in the road give you much higher shaft speeds, so to see how harsh it's going to feel hitting cracks or bumps, you want to be looking further to the right down the X axis. Since these have pretty minimal force at low shaft speeds and a ton of force at higher shaft speeds, I would think they would have poor body control and feel really harsh over bumps.

[Def]

Low shaft speeds, like 0.1 m/s and under, are generally associated with cornering, braking, etc. A lot of compression force here gives you more body control. Bumps in the road give you much higher shaft speeds, so to see how harsh it's going to feel hitting cracks or bumps, you want to be looking further to the right down the X axis. Since these have pretty minimal force at low shaft speeds and a ton of force at higher shaft speeds, I would think they would have poor body control and feel really harsh over bumps.

Yep - the last thing you want is very little damping at low shaft speeds. In fact, that's the whole argument for bigger piston sizes on dampers - to actually get more damping force at low shaft speeds.

A good damper is also digressive to some degree... and these really aren't.

[e-autosports]

Hey guys, just wanted to chime in real quick about the DG-5's. Before I get started, I have no affiliation with them, and I do not sell them, and this is just my personal opinion about the coilovers.

I first found out about DG-5 about 3 years ago when a shop I was working at was speculating over the possibility of becoming the first authorized distributor of the US. Yes, Keichi Tsuchiya is the head honcho over the project, but the only part he took designing the coilovers was actually testing out the prototypes. The suspension company was actually started by two Japanese engineers who had worked for several suspension manufactures, and on the side decided to create their own company. At the time, all the pieces were hand made, and they were popping out 50 pieces a month by hand.

From the first time I was actually able to get my hands on these for a first hand inspection, I could tell that these were BEEFY coilovers. The welding is top notch, and beautifully done. Talking to Yas, owner of Swift Springs USA, I was told that Swift Springs (which I personally use on my Buddy Club Competition Specs and love), would be used for the coilovers, and knowing this off the bat, I knew that the engineers knew what they were doing. As far as the build, we were actually able to disassemble the suspension and found that the seals were thick, pistons I think were roughly 50mm, and were an inverted monotube setup. The only complaint I have about these coilovers is the fact that they do not have a remote reservoir setup with compression and rebound adjustability which top coilover manufactures will always implement in their designs for more specific control over the dampener.

Now these may be great coilovers, but I haven't had a personal chance to drive a car with a setup. The sad thing is, even if they are a great setup, it's very sad to see D1 and Keichi Tsuchiya monopolizing on the fact that DG5 really is his company. If you look at the top 12 D1 drivers in Japan, I believe that at least 8 out of the 12 drivers are using DG5. Of course one could assume that because the coilovers are outstanding, and above and beyond other, but my guess is that the truth of the matter is politics. Looks to me that if they want any chance of winning D1, they'll have to be running the main judges brand. This sucks to see because it really doesn't give other manufacturers a fair chance to really place their products on display.

Otherwise, the coilover dampening from what i've heard from professional drivers is top notch, and fairly well balanced when used in conjunction with the allotted spring rates. As far as those comparing these to stance coilovers, I would definitely put these above and beyond STANCE since in my opinion, German and Japanese engineers have shown that they are far superior designing aftermarket suspension parts for enthusiasts.

[lflkajfj12123]

yeah i liked teh GR+ pro more then the flta2
and mroe then the Tein HE

yes stance has a shorter front spring
i have to see if its an option on the DG5
personally im OVER that 'lower business'
i want grip and tons of it

:aw:

whoah dousan watch what you say

you might upset texas

[spool_sample]

Yep - the last thing you want is very little damping at low shaft speeds. In fact, that's the whole argument for bigger piston sizes on dampers - to actually get more damping force at low shaft speeds.

A good damper is also digressive to some degree... and these really aren't.

I'm with you on that, Def.

After looking at the dynos, I'm having a hard time seeing what the fuss is about. The build quality looks insane, though.

[sideview_180sx]

personally im OVER that 'lower business'


wow now that aaron admitted it. how long until lindz makes the switch too...

I like the DG-5s but for cost. i'd got with whats being had on NRR using the konis.

I still have my N1-Pros (old skool off [email protected] apex'i) I think those are amazing. but with only 43mm piston size. man dooosh rolling like a caddy on the smooth bumps

[Z33dori]

Wow Aaron i am turely jealous...


and i swear last year when i was looking for DG-5's i found them for 5k or so range......idk maybe it was that vegas heat or something...


man i cant wait till im out of of school so i can get a good job and have my fun....

[a_ahmed]

very high externally built quality product but lol way overpriced... for the same money one can get a 'non-jdm' custom built solution better serving one's needs... but hey coolies. It's all about having bling and names.

[overb0ost]

quick question, why didn't you go with a brand like KW so you get the feature of adjusting rebound and compression?

[veilside180sx]

Not all "top" "coilover" manufacturers use external res. Just as an FYI.

Hey guys, just wanted to chime in real quick about the DG-5's. Before I get started, I have no affiliation with them, and I do not sell them, and this is just my personal opinion about the coilovers.

I first found out about DG-5 about 3 years ago when a shop I was working at was speculating over the possibility of becoming the first authorized distributor of the US. Yes, Keichi Tsuchiya is the head honcho over the project, but the only part he took designing the coilovers was actually testing out the prototypes. The suspension company was actually started by two Japanese engineers who had worked for several suspension manufactures, and on the side decided to create their own company. At the time, all the pieces were hand made, and they were popping out 50 pieces a month by hand.

From the first time I was actually able to get my hands on these for a first hand inspection, I could tell that these were BEEFY coilovers. The welding is top notch, and beautifully done. Talking to Yas, owner of Swift Springs USA, I was told that Swift Springs (which I personally use on my Buddy Club Competition Specs and love), would be used for the coilovers, and knowing this off the bat, I knew that the engineers knew what they were doing. As far as the build, we were actually able to disassemble the suspension and found that the seals were thick, pistons I think were roughly 50mm, and were an inverted monotube setup. The only complaint I have about these coilovers is the fact that they do not have a remote reservoir setup with compression and rebound adjustability which top coilover manufactures will always implement in their designs for more specific control over the dampener.

Now these may be great coilovers, but I haven't had a personal chance to drive a car with a setup. The sad thing is, even if they are a great setup, it's very sad to see D1 and Keichi Tsuchiya monopolizing on the fact that DG5 really is his company. If you look at the top 12 D1 drivers in Japan, I believe that at least 8 out of the 12 drivers are using DG5. Of course one could assume that because the coilovers are outstanding, and above and beyond other, but my guess is that the truth of the matter is politics. Looks to me that if they want any chance of winning D1, they'll have to be running the main judges brand. This sucks to see because it really doesn't give other manufacturers a fair chance to really place their products on display.

Otherwise, the coilover dampening from what i've heard from professional drivers is top notch, and fairly well balanced when used in conjunction with the allotted spring rates. As far as those comparing these to stance coilovers, I would definitely put these above and beyond STANCE since in my opinion, German and Japanese engineers have shown that they are far superior designing aftermarket suspension parts for enthusiasts.

[Dousan_PG]

quick question, why didn't you go with a brand like KW so you get the feature of adjusting rebound and compression?

i could have
it was offered to me
but i know enough about them and my friends who have the Varient 2s, i decided not to

lemme put it this way
my frineds w/ the KWs..want DG5s after seeing mine.

[SoSideways]

i could have
it was offered to me
but i know enough about them and my friends who have the Varient 2s, i decided not to

lemme put it this way
my frineds w/ the KWs..want DG5s after seeing mine.

Seems like there are a lot of people that want these simply because of the way they look?

I seriously hope you guys didn't get duped into buying these DG-5s that may or may not feel like Stance GR+ Pros just from the way they look...

[Dousan_PG]

i catn even reply to you so sideways without typing a total asshole reply
i cant explain shit well on the internet.
so im just going to leave it at that.


i think this work for this whole thread

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/additional/large/office_space_kit_mat.jpg

im not even going to waste my time w/ a follow up on comparing my old setup w/ th enew
not like anyone is going to try stuff anyways
ill stick the info on another forum.

[SoSideways]

Nah man I know what you mean, I was just called an asshole on a local forum earlier today, and told to get over myself and get a life yesterday on the same forum, because people that I know, are being idiots about the topic we were discussing.

Don't worry, I'm sure they'll be awesome for you, I'm just saying, I just hope that that shock dyno comparison isn't true, or else it would have been an extra $1000+ on the DG-5 name but with about the same performance as the Stance GR+ Pro.