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RiversideS13
03-05-2008, 01:45 AM
i think it has a very interesting cluster....

http://www.carspyshots.net/showthread.php?t=14995

http://images2.carview.co.jp/news/car/images/img6_20080218_13532534_2_l.jpg
http://images2.carview.co.jp/news/car/images/img6_20080218_13532534_3_l.jpg
http://toyota.jp/customize/crownathlete/wald/image/main.jpg

Dutchmalmiss
03-05-2008, 02:00 AM
Front looks Infinity-ish. Rear looks like an updated LS. I like it.

Xandy Boosts
03-05-2008, 02:17 AM
I'm starting to think hybrid now....good too see there's alot of options out.

ayuaddict
03-05-2008, 02:20 AM
oh gad thats hot.

Helghast
03-05-2008, 02:22 AM
That is hot!

OH LAWD.

muddafakka
03-05-2008, 07:35 AM
Nice car. Too bad it probably won't ever come to America. It would make for a nice Avalon replacement, but then again it may rob Lexus sales. Toyota deprives us from all their good cars. They must get a kick out of it.

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 07:49 AM
Front looks Infinity-ish. Rear looks like an updated LS. I like it.

Yea the fronts on a lotta Toyota's look Infinity-ish. I suppose neither cares cause the cares aren't sold on the same shores.

Looks cool though. I hate Toyota's design language here in America.

S14DB
03-05-2008, 07:57 AM
Yea the fronts on a lotta Toyota's look Infinity-ish. I suppose neither cares cause the cares aren't sold on the same shores.
You sure about that? :Ownedd:

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 08:20 AM
^
I meant since they are both not sold on American shores...

S14DB
03-05-2008, 08:29 AM
^
I meant since they are both not sold on American shores...

Change a couple badges... http://www.lexus.com/models/LS/ cause the Crown is based on the Celsior. Like the President->Cima=Q45

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 08:35 AM
Change a couple badges... http://www.lexus.com/models/LS/ cause the Crown is based on the Celsior. Like the President->Cima=Q45

I was referring to the styling. The Toyota styling in Japan looks Infinity-like. We don't get that styling here because of the likeness to Infinity.

S14DB
03-05-2008, 08:53 AM
I was referring to the styling. The Toyota styling in Japan looks Infinity-like. We don't get that styling here because of the likeness to Infinity.
http://lexus.jp/models/ls/variation.html
http://www.lexus.com/models/LS/

Look the same to me.

DaPCWiz
03-05-2008, 08:56 AM
looks good. But the cluster is nothing new... the old Infiniti Q45 had something like that as an option.

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 08:56 AM
AJ, I mean we don't get the styling of the Crown here.

We get this ugly shit:
http://images.dealer.com/jato/us/photoColor400/TOYOTA/CAMRY/2008/4SA40.JPG

Stop trying to being difficult.

S14DB
03-05-2008, 09:02 AM
AJ, I mean we don't get the styling of the Crown here.

We get this ugly shit:
http://images.dealer.com/jato/us/photoColor400/TOYOTA/CAMRY/2008/4SA40.JPG

Stop trying to being difficult.
http://toyota.jp/camry/ Looks the same in JP...

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 09:12 AM
All of our styling has the same design language as the Camry. It does not have the same design language as the Crown.

Correct?

Correct.

S14DB
03-05-2008, 09:25 AM
All of our styling has the same design language as the Camry. It does not have the same design language as the Crown.

Correct?

Correct.
No the Crown is a legacy vehicle in it's own world. Rest of Toyota/Lexus styling is the exact same in the US and JP. Car sold there is the same as sold here. Japanese get the same shitty Camry's as we do.

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 09:31 AM
Headlightsm taillights, front fenders ont he Crown have the similar bulge as the Camry, Crown is more aggressive and offered with optional aero, front fascia's are not even close, wheels are more aggressive looking, the way the c pillar shapes the back on the passenger window, and the side mirrors are mounted completely different.

I guess other then that they look like identical twins. :ugh:

AJ, you are completely missing my OG point. My OG point was that we don't get the styling you see on the Crown because it is very similar to Infinity's.

Nice Ninja edit...

S14DB
03-05-2008, 09:37 AM
We will never get the Crown. We get EVERYTHING else. Infinty is just a rebrand. They still sell the same Nissan's over there and they have no problem in Japan.

Crown is it's own sub brand. You can't compare any Toyota/Lexus styling to it. We get everything else they get looking the same.

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 09:42 AM
We will never get the Crown. We get EVERYTHING else. Infinty is just a rebrand. They still sell the same Nissan's over there and they have no problem in Japan.

Crown is it's own sub brand. You can't compare any Toyota/Lexus styling to it. We get everything else they get looking the same.

Understood. Crown is a name in Japan. If they tried to sell it here and it looked like that people would not know it wasn't an Infinity.

Dutchmalmiss
03-05-2008, 09:44 AM
Understood. Crown is a name in Japan. If they tried to sell it here and it looked like that people would not know it wasn't an Infinity.

Yeah, I made my Infinity reference based on a USDM point of view, haha.

S14DB
03-05-2008, 09:57 AM
Understood. Crown is a name in Japan. If they tried to sell it here and it looked like that people would not know it wasn't an Infinity.
You saying the Americans are dumber than the Japaneses? Through a Lexus badge on it and no one would say a thing. There are more "infinity" looking Nissan's in JP then here and you don't hear the comparison.

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 10:04 AM
You saying the Americans are dumber than the Japaneses?

Yes. We are enthusiasts. We can see the differences, but most Americans are unobservant and I believe they would just think it's an M45. If they even know what an M45 is.

S14DB
03-05-2008, 10:13 AM
Yes. We are enthusiasts. We can see the differences, but most Americans are unobservant and I believe they would just think it's an M45. If they even know what an M45 is.

Maybe you are. But the average consumer is not. Look at our Domestic styling.

But, going back to the OP's note on the cluster. I'm sure it will appear on the GS/LS and the Crown will use the same hybrid drive as the GS/LS.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/LexusGS450hInterior.jpg
http://www.ivantodorov.com/blog/wp-content/060815/lexusLS3.jpg
http://images2.carview.co.jp/news/car/images/img6_20080218_13532534_2_l.jpg

exitspeed
03-05-2008, 10:19 AM
Maybe you are. But the average consumer is not. Look at our Domestic styling.



You're the one who said the GS looks just like the Crown...;)

This is going no where.

Crown is a cool car.

IStop4NoMan
03-05-2008, 10:30 AM
At first glance, id say its an M45. interior kinda reminds me of one too.

98s14inaz
03-05-2008, 11:20 AM
Vair nice. That cluster set up is sic, am I correct in assuming it is an lcd monitor?

stev3
03-05-2008, 02:07 PM
the crown is such a ballin' car

BustedS13
03-05-2008, 02:15 PM
i like hybrids, but they need to come in stick

S14DB
03-05-2008, 02:18 PM
CVT >>> Stick

BustedS13
03-05-2008, 02:56 PM
CVT >>> Stick

not for manliness. you need something to counter balance the gayness of driving a hybrid

S14DB
03-05-2008, 03:24 PM
not for manliness. you need something to counter balance the gayness of driving a hybrid

Yeah cause there is nothing gay about stroking a stick in your hybrid.

I drove the Versa 6-speed and the CVT. The 6 speed was useless after 3rd. But holding redline 0-60 was awesome. I will take CVT over anything in any street car.

powersteeringless180sx
03-05-2008, 04:33 PM
the new crown looks cool. too bad we'll never see em over here.