2009 Cadillac CTS-V-OH-WOW!

[exitspeed]

AWESOME. The CTS is one of my fav. GM cars right now and is a critical and commercial success. The interior is just damn HOT!

Cliff notes:

The 2009 CTS-V leap-frogs its chief competitor - the BMW M5 - with GM's new LSA V8 derived from the LS9 in the Corvette ZR1.

To achieve that they installed the supercharged 6.2L V-8 with an output of 550 horsepower and 550 lb-ft of torque into a heavily upgraded chassis and then went about dressing up both the interior and exterior to match.

For those who prefer to handle the gear selection process on their own, the same Tremec 6060 used in the ZR1 is paired up with a dual plate clutch.

Another place where the CTS-V borrows from the ZR1 (and before that the STS) is the use of Magnetic Ride Control. The dampers filled with magneto-rheological fluid are adjusted based on sensor readings that happen at 1ms intervals.

Like the ZR1, six-pot Brembo calipers do the work up front with four-piston units at the back. In this case though the 15" front and 14.7" rear composite rotors are made of steel with aluminum hubs and slotted surfaces.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/08/detroit-2008-2009-cadillac-cts-v-revealed-with-550-hp/

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[azndoc]

That don't look like a grandpa's caddy no more.

Damn that car looks aggressive.

[txrxs]

spaceship status. It's no S13 though ;)

[eastcoastS14]

interior is badass exterior is meh

[status:one]

very nice... but i'd take the m5 over the caddy. The power output the cars in this class are making is mind boggling.

[S13FREEAAK]

Man GM is stepping up their game as of late. The normal CTS is even killer looking.

[exitspeed]

interior is badass exterior is meh

Interior is my favorite part. I want to rub my penis on the steering wheel.

And the hood says, "Yea, this engine barely fits in here.".

[ZOMG_S14]

yah i would def sell my left nut for this car.

[steve shadows]

That don't look like a grandpa's caddy no more.

Damn that car looks aggressive.

aggressive like a glock

[axiomatik]

man, the new CTS looks damn hot.

[exitspeed]

There shouldn't be haters in this thread since it comes in stick.

[S13FREEAAK]

There shouldn't be haters in this thread since it comes in stick.

But it has traction control and stuff that that. It's not a real driver's car. Haha. People would bitch if it was free.

[HWYKING]

There shouldn't be haters in this thread since it comes in stick.

the previous model came in stick also didnt it?

[exitspeed]

the previous model came in stick also didnt it?

It did. GM does it right from time to time.

[Nachtmensch]

the interior reminds me of an expensive watch.

and those seats (from the little i can see) look to hold you in snuggly :)

[exitspeed]

the interior reminds me of an expensive watch.

and those seats (from the little i can see) look to hold you in snuggly :)

Little better pic.
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[Antihero983]

still a caddy. no thanks.

[exitspeed]

still a caddy. no thanks.

Read up on Caddy. You'll be amazed. The "still a caddy" argument is old. They've been showered with awards from all types of sources over the last 2-3 years.

[Antihero983]

Read up on Caddy. You'll be amazed. The "still a caddy" argument is old. They've been showered with awards from all types of sources over the last 2-3 years.

sorry exit, usually i agree, but i could care less about awards. as mechanic i hate caddies in general always have. sure, itll be fucking badass to drive, but working on it will suck ass.

[exitspeed]

sorry exit, usually i agree, but i could care less about awards. as mechanic i hate caddies in general always have. sure, itll be fucking badass to drive, but working on it will suck ass.

Ah, but if you buy one, you're probably not the one thats gonna work on it. I know for one that if I buy a brand spankin new CTS, something goes wrong, I'm taking it in. That's what warranties are for.

[0100]

Love the interior and pretty much everything, except for the grill.

[exitspeed]

Love the interior and pretty much everything, except for the grill.

Yea I prefer the regular grill.
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[jackjack]

that is DAMN nice. OOoooOOOooOOo.

[HWYKING]

Yea I prefer the regular grill.
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both grilles are nice, but i think the new speed grille fits with the new aggressive front bumper. GM is definitley doing things right with this monster and the zr1. this car is a keeper. nice find exit.

[muddafakka]

the previous model came in stick also didnt it?

Yeah the old CTS-Vs only came in manual...now it's both.

This thing is sick. The interior is awesome. My only gripe is the grille. I also prefer to older one.

[Antihero983]

hehe i would void that warranty sooo fucking fast....

[SimpleS14]

my only gripe is the grille...I would powercoat (or paint) it black if I owned that car.

The interior is nice, but is that suede on the steering wheel? That will not fair well over time...unless you drive with gloves on.

[HWYKING]

this caddy is sick. my boss is looking at trading his c6 for the zr-1 coming out. im gonna show him this as well.

[Yuri]

But it has traction control and stuff that that. It's not a real driver's car. Haha. People would bitch if it was free.

Shut your mouth young whippersnapper. In my day, drivers drove their cars, they didn't let their cars drive themselves.
All this newfangled technology is the bane of modern society.
Pretty soon the act of driving will be considered illegal.
Now back when cars were cars, here's a real man's caddy!
Cadillac V16. Had over 100HP!
Now listen up young man, a ravishing young lady would shuck her bloomers to the dapper gent that would pick her up in this fine motorcar!
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x158/DKapt/1672303972_899bdff94d.jpg

But now we have all this newfangled stuff like air conditioning and radios actually mounted in the cars!! What's the world coming to?

[ManoNegra]

^lol
Not doing it for me. I understand that it's not the 'same old caddy' and that they are award winning and all but they still have a strong old geezer stigma attached to them imo. I'd also take an M5 over it.

[DreamN]

I'm a fan. The interior looks very nice and actually surprised me when i first saw the pic.

Considering how complicated the iDrive is in the M5, the simplicity of the CTS-V would probably win me over.

[mayco_86]

Damn car looks good. The interior is badass.

[soreballz]

I love it, but... More panties will get thrown at an M5. ;)

[origin_s135]

i really like the interior, and how the car looks, ahhh another beast on the road!

[RedStage]

that is very nice. always liked the CTS.

[axiomatik]

sorry exit, usually i agree, but i could care less about awards. as mechanic i hate caddies in general always have. sure, itll be fucking badass to drive, but working on it will suck ass.

same argument can be made against current BMWs, Benzes, Lexus, etc etc.

[Antihero983]

same argument can be made against current BMWs, Benzes, Lexus, etc etc.

and i hate BMWs and Benzes. lol

[JoeC1982]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/autoshows/detroit/2008/2009cadillacctsv.html#09cadillacctsv01500

more pics there...

[Neejay]

DAMN, this thing is nice.

[drift freaq]

Shut your mouth young whippersnapper. In my day, drivers drove their cars, they didn't let their cars drive themselves.
All this newfangled technology is the bane of modern society.
Pretty soon the act of driving will be considered illegal.
Now back when cars were cars, here's a real man's caddy!
Cadillac V16. Had over 100HP!
Now listen up young man, a ravishing young lady would shuck her bloomers to the dapper gent that would pick her up in this fine motorcar!
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x158/DKapt/1672303972_899bdff94d.jpg

But now we have all this newfangled stuff like air conditioning and radios actually mounted in the cars!! What's the world coming to?
Yuri, shows a classic. New Caddy? Eh I have always felt the lines were too squared on the CTS. Though I do applaud GM for trying to do Caddy's right. Not my cup of Tea and I will also probably opt for the BMW instead.

P.S. Yuri sig catch line cracks me up. If your referring to the GTR transmisions its not your Dads Manumatic. LOL.

[Rob's S14]

no joke about lexus. $400 to replace a cable in the steering column.

I actually kinda like this car, and i'm not a huge caddy fan or even american cars in general.

what's the price point gonna be like? I know the M5 is 100k+

[exitspeed]

Well the previous one was about $50,000.

I'd expect this one to climb to about the $65k price at least. GM's been all about bang for your buck lately.

[shmiddy]

beautiful car man! i have a 2001 cts and i love IT!!!!!!!! some higher end modles come with a v8 vet engine

[Rob's S14]

damn, that's not a bad deal especially if it rivals the M5 in perforance, but only 2/3 the price.

[luckyslide16]

That is just plain sexy.....

[KA-T_240]

Depending on the price. I may have found my stepdads new car. He loved the old CTS-Vs and i know he will love this. but he would get an auto :(. I would still beat the shit out of it though.

[articdragon192]

The onyl gripe I have about this car and the previous CTS is the fact that the e-brake is either a foot pedal or a button. Give me a yank e-brake please. It just totally kills the car for me.

[powersteeringless180sx]

meh..... i don't dig it. i guess i'm just picky about domestics.

[TheWolf]

If I can get it for under 60k... I'm definitely heading that way.

[0100]

It's a tough call, the new m3 might be under 60k. Less hp but a lot lighter (3571).

[0100]

Good God I hope the release nur times.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=121300
^video at nur

[SimpleS14]

It's a tough call, the new m3 might be under 60k. Less hp but a lot lighter (3571).


Comparing a coupe to a sedan is 'meh' IMO. Are you referring to the M3 sedan (still in testing)?

[exitspeed]

^
Well soon enough the CTS Coupe will be out. GM is going to debute it this year. :w00t: :naughtyd: :coold: :eek3d: :drool:

[0100]

2 door and 4 door isn't that big of a difference. At least to me. I would cross shop them. The cts-v looks like it's going to be an animal.

I could easily see someone cross shopping

m3
rs4
c63 amg
cts-v

I am looking at the dec 07 C&D right now and guess what the comparo was. c63 amg(4d), new M3(2d), and rs4(4d)... M3 won btw.

[exitspeed]

2 door and 4 door isn't that big of a difference. At least to me. I would cross shop them. The cts-v looks like it's going to be an animal.

I could easily see someone cross shopping

m3
rs4
c63 amg
cts-v

I am looking at the dec 07 C&D right now and guess what the comparo was. c63 amg(4d), new M3(2d), and rs4(4d)... M3 won btw.

Read that article. M3 (3 series) always wins.

Stewing over these cars (RWD sport sedans) just made me think of something. Almost all the cars in that segment offer a performance version....EXCEPT Nissan/Infinity and the G35. I wonder if a high powered G35 is in the works???

[articdragon192]

Hmm, what's different here?
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Since when did Cady start taking cues from Mbenz, one of the few companies, of not the only one, I've encountered, that has a foot e-brake in their manuals, and from Jaguar and Audi, with Push button e-brake. Hell, even the manual Infinitis come with a hand brake instead of a foot brake like their automatic version.

[ronmcdon]

Well the previous one was about $50,000.

I'd expect this one to climb to about the $65k price at least. GM's been all about bang for your buck lately.

GM used to be a good deal with the 50k C5 Z06 and CTS-V. Their prices have gone up quite a bit since. I honestly don't see it coming any cheaper the $70k Z06. Right now, imo the Lexus IS-F at 55k or so seems like the best bargain. Meanwhile BMW's pricing have remained similar, and Audi is beginning to get their act together.

Edit...actually I think the E90 M3 @ $55k is the car to have. The Audi S5 (and the soon to be resdesigned S4 rumored to go back to b-turbo) is promising as well. Cadillac is gonna have some tough competition. All the better for potential customers like us! :D

[SimpleS14]

I wonder if a high powered G35 is in the works???

I wouldn't mind setting an N/A version of the VR38 stuffed into a G Sedan (or coupe).

[exitspeed]

For those asking for a coupe! (like me)

Cadillac CTS Coupe Concept to debut later this morning
Hot off the wire is GM's surprise announcement that Cadillac will unveil a CTS Coupe Concept at its press conference later this morning. We've been expecting a CTS Coupe as part of the diversification of that model's offerings, and this concept should give us a great idea of what the probable production car will look like. Photos won't be released until closer to showtime, and we'll get them up as soon as they're released. Joining the CTS Coupe will be the Cadillac Myst, another hydrogen concept, and of course, you're already familiar with the CTS-V and Escalade Hybrid, which round out the Caddy contingent. Stay tuned for more.

[Source: GM]

UPDATE! 9:51am. I see some Eldorado cues in there.
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PRESS RELEASE:

CT COUPE CONCEPT CELEBRATES CADILLAC'S DESIGN RENAISSANCE

DETROIT – Having earned critical acclaim, industry awards and brisk sales, Cadillac CTS has moved into the vanguard of contemporary design. In doing so, Cadillac designers faced the question of what to do next. Their answer celebrates that design legacy with the exhilarating Cadillac CT Coupe Concept, which premiered at the 2008 North American International Auto Show.

The CT Coupe takes Cadillac's acclaimed Art and Science design language and adds more of both. More expressive, more technical and very personal, the CT Coupe extends the dramatic design of its sedan predecessor with all-new sculpted bodywork aft of the front fenders.

"The CT Coupe Concept is a dramatic design statement," said Ed Welburn, VP, GM Global Design. "We did not create it as the result of sifting through reams of market data, nor is its shape trimmed to suit the input collected at a consumer clinic – it is emotion on four wheels and the very essence of what defines Cadillac today."

The CT Coupe Concept has a classic 2+2 interior layout, highlighted by black leather and Alcantara microfiber trim that is complemented by yellow ochre-colored seat inserts and leather stitching. It is designed to accommodate a range of engines for the global luxury market, including Cadillac's popular 3.6L Direct Injection V-6, as well as a new 2.9L turbo-diesel currently in development.

"This Coupe Concept is a natural extension of our design language, and of the CTS itself," said Jim Taylor, Cadillac general manager. "Very simply, the dramatic design of the sedan begged the question of what it would look like in the unbridled form of a Coupe."

Generated from the spark of the CTS design team's imagination, the CT Coupe casts a profile unlike anything else on the road. Its fast-rake styling – it has the same wheelbase as the CTS, but an overall height that is approximately four inches (101 mm) shorter – blends with hand-sculpted bodywork that bulges around the wheels, giving the vehicle a ready-to-pounce stance that is dramatic, powerful and sleek.

"Just about every decade, Cadillac designs a breakthrough car that becomes synonymous with the brand's character of the period, such as the 1938 60 Special, the 1959 lineup, the 1975 Seville and the 2003 Sixteen Concept," said Clay Dean, global director of design, for Cadillac. "The CT Coupe Concept is the next great design, carrying the baton from the Evoq Concept that ushered in the Art and Science era in 1999."

A design gem

Among the CT Coupe Concept's signature design cues are a number of elements that suggest the look of a carefully cut diamond – particularly at the rear. These elements are seen in everything from the chrome header above the rear license plate holder to the indents that comprise the basic form of the rear fascia.

"The diamond-cut elements enhance the sleek profile of the car," said John Manoogian II, director of exterior design for Cadillac. "The CT Coupe uses the elements, along with other nods to classic Cadillac cues – such as vertical headlamps and taillamps – to acknowledge the brand's heritage without resorting to nostalgia. It is a forward-looking design in every sense of the term."

Although based on the sedan, the CT Coupe shares only the instrument panel, console, headlamps, front fenders and grille with the production model. Unique elements include:

* Classic hardtop styling, with no B-pillar
* CTS production windshield laid at a faster angle to create a sleeker profile
* Chrome, split seven-spoke wheel design; 20-inch front wheels and 21-inch rear wheels
* Sculpted lower front fascia with unique brake-cooling vents
* Slim-profile outside mirrors
* XLR-type hidden door handles with proximity remote opening
* Unique front fender vents
* Diamond-cut rear fascia with mesh lower grilles and center-outlet exhaust
* Taillamps with a subtle fin profile and are highlighted with LED lighting technology with light pipes
* Rear spoiler integrated into the center high-mounted stop lamp
* Sculpted roof-mounted antenna for OnStar, XM Satellite Radio, etc.

"The cliché is to say that there were no compromises in the design, but that is absolutely accurate in the case of the CT Coupe," said Manoogian. "Each line and angle of the bodywork was carefully honed, and the final design's proportions were judged by the eyes of the design team, not computer-generated math data."

The surfaces of CT Coupe Concept are complex, inviting careful inspection. The rear fenders, for example, were sculpted by hand in the design studio until they provided a perfect, muscular form that wrapped tightly over the wheels. At the top, the rear fenders are beveled – owing to the diamond-cut theme – and become part of a horizontal plane that runs from the leading edge of the taillamps and merges into the roof.

"At first glance, the design appears effectively simple, because there are no extraneous moldings, spoilers or other protrusions, but the more you look at it, the more complex it becomes," said Manoogian. "The angles and bevels were carefully carved to enhance the car's sleek shape, but aren't 'busy' or distracting – there's really nothing quite like it."

Personal passenger environment

A classic 2+2 interior environment enhances the CT Coupe's personal feel. It shares the hand cut-and-sewn instrument panel and center console with the CTS, but features unique front and rear seats, a continuous console running between the front and rear seats, and custom door panels.

"The CT Coupe is a personal car – something a customer would choose to reward him or herself – and the passenger environment reflects that," said Eric Clough, interior design director. "The interior uses the already excellent CTS design and takes it to a new, bolder level."

Custom-trimmed sport seats from Recaro are located in all four positions. They support the grand-touring nature of the car and are covered in rich, black and suede-like microfiber material, with yellow ochre-colored inserts. The yellow ochre color provides dramatic contrast with the black surrounding trim, but is a subdued hue consistent with the interior's overall feeling of refinement. Yellow ochre stitching also is used throughout, including the seats, instrument panel, shifter knob and more.

Black microfiber fabric covers the front armrest, as well as an armrest located between the rear seats. The armrests are part of a continuous console that stretches from the instrument panel to rear seats. Carbon-fiber trim accents the console. The interior also features ambient lighting throughout, creating a distinctive environment at night.

Like the sedan, the CTS Coupe Concept's interior is home to a host of technologies, including a premium Bose audio system, 40-gigabyte hard drive and XM Satellite Radio. OnStar with Turn-by-Turn Navigation enhances the vehicle's onboard navigation system, which – like the CTS – features a screen that rises out of the center of the instrument panel.

Performance-bred powertrain and suspension systems

As is the case with its design, the CT Coupe extends the acclaimed capabilities of the sedan in terms of performance technology. This includes the capability to support a broad engine range of gasoline and diesel engines.

The CT Coupe, of course, ascertains the sedan's 3.6L V-6 engines, including the 304-horsepower (227 kW) Direct Injection power plant. The Coupe Concept also is designed for a new 2.9L turbo-diesel being developed for international markets. This new engine, tailored for use in the CTS, will deliver an estimated 250 horsepower (184 kW) and 406 lb.-ft. of torque (550 Nm).

A six-speed manual transmission backs the engine, sending torque to an independently sprung rear axle. The CT Coupe's sport-tuned suspension gives it a slightly lower ride height than a production CTS – a look enhanced by the car's rakish shape and large, 20-inch front and 21-inch rear wheels.

Behind the chrome, split-spoke, aluminum alloy wheels is a set of high-performance brakes, featuring cross-drilled rotors. Six-piston calipers clamp down on the front rotors, while four-piston calipers grab the rear rotors. All of the rotors have a distinctive, yellow-painted finish.

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[ronmcdon]

The coupe's a lot cleaner and aggressive looking imo. Even the more subtle grille is a substantial improvement. The only things I don't care for are the excessive use of yellow (brake calipers, interior stitching, etc), and the aftermarket looking rear bumper. Otherwise I like it a lot, morso than the sedan.

[Dutchmalmiss]

OOOO I'm lovin the coupe. Wish they would lower the rear end a bit. Kinda weird being able to see the diff so easily.

[exitspeed]

I honestly wish they would make more a trunk. The C-Pillar shape gives it more of a hatch look then a coupe.

[sxe]

my 06 cts has had a decent amount of problems. always taken care of under warrenty of coarse. but i hope they fix all the little things that went wrong. its a very well balanced daily driver, and fun!!

as far as the grill goes, i like the new style. looks more agressive..

my 0.02

[jrocslider]

idk...... for some reason i like the look of the older ones better

[exitspeed]

my 06 cts has had a decent amount of problems. always taken care of under warrenty of coarse. but i hope they fix all the little things that went wrong. its a very well balanced daily driver, and fun!!

as far as the grill goes, i like the new style. looks more agressive..

my 0.02

Cadillac has the best customer service in the automotive industry. How were all of your experiences?

[DreamN]

That coupe is freakin' beefy. Loving it all minus the rear & interior color choice though.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Interior reminds me of what a space ship will look like in 2050.

[axiomatik]

I honestly wish they would make more a trunk. The C-Pillar shape gives it more of a hatch look then a coupe.

yeah, it definitely doesn't have a coupe profile. back-end is too beefy for me to consider it a 'sleek' car, but overall it does look nice. why-oh-why do designers always have to make the beltline so high on today's cars? it makes them look bloated.

[JoeC1982]

The coupe is nice, it does remind me of the old school VW Corrado on the back end(not neccessarily a bad thing) but everything else looks good minus the yellow of course.

[muddafakka]

I'm loving the coupe. Very nice.

[xtreme_s14]

looks nice.. but i'll take these CTS-V over the new one anyday! after watching these things haul ass down the streets of downtown long beach, who wouldn't fall in love with it? (regardless one of them crashed and lost)
http://www.motorsportscenter.com/uploads/ctsvs_lead_pack.jpg

[andmattsayd]

wow caddy did a good jobb with this one.
really nicccce :)

[0100]

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[allntrlundrgrnd]

pretty balller, definitely liking the interior more than the ex

[exitspeed]

Cadillac wins big at Detroit

From autoblog:

One bit of news we passed over on the way out the door of COBO Hall on Tuesday was the winners of this year's EyesOn Design Awards at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show. There are four awards given away each year, including Best Concept and Production Car and Best Concept and Production Truck. Cadillac sweeped the car side of things with the CTS-V being honored as Best Production Car and the CTS Coupe Concept named as the Best Concept Car. The BMW X6, meanwhile, was named Best Production Truck and the Chrysler ecoVoyager Concept nabbed the Best Concept Truck award.

The EyesOn Design awards are sponsored by the Detroit Institute of Opthamology and judged by a panel of automotive designers including ex-VP of Design for GM Wayne Cherry, Chrysler's Senior VP of Design Trevor Creed, the renowned Henrik Fisker, GM's VP of Global Design Ed Welburn and Mazda's Franz von Holzhausen.

[exitspeed]

If this isn't impressive I don't know what is.

'
The badassery going in inside the supercharged LSA V8 stuffed under the domed hood of the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V appears to translate well on the Nordschleife's graffiti-marked tarmac. GM announced today that John Heinricy exercised his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of a record time by wheeling a production-spec CTS-V around the Nürburgring's north loop in 7:59:32, which is believed to be the "fastest documented lap time" for a production sedan. Even if that turns out not to be the case, it's pretty freakin fast. GM shot video of the whole thing, which should be released in the coming days. Somewhere, Nissan engineers with furrowed brows are shoving the GT-R's 3.8L V6 into a G35 sedan...'

Source: Autoblog

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[Dutchmalmiss]

"I think I'm in loooove"
- Andre 3000

[flip3d]

Magnetic Suspension that's faster than my internet and a Tremec tranny?! I'll take it!

[Farzam]

I have a really big erection and it won't go away

[OptionZero]

yeah, the coupe looks pretty awkward

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

interior is badass exterior is meh

exactly. It's no integraline (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=192265) but the inside looks like a cockpit.

[origin_s135]

everytime i see the pictures of this car, i go "DAMNNNNNNNNNNN GINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!"

[just1pepsi]

my only gripe is that its a GM product.. every GM I've ever owned or had to deal with daily was a complete P-O-S. I'd like to think that Cadillac's are different, but I have a sneaking suspicion they arent based on re-sale values after 100k miles. It does look good in my opinion though.

[exitspeed]

my only gripe is that its a GM product.. every GM I've ever owned or had to deal with daily was a complete P-O-S. I'd like to think that Cadillac's are different, but I have a sneaking suspicion they arent based on re-sale values after 100k miles. It does look good in my opinion though.

GM's quality is actually very good in most of their vehicles 2006+. In fact Buick was rated #1 last year beating out Lexus who help the top spot for 13 years. Cadillac is #2 above Acura and Honda. Cadillac also is like number 3 best customer service out of the top 100 companies (not just car companies. ALL companies) in the World. You get the point.

[just1pepsi]

rated #2 in quality? .. sorry man, thats going to be a tough one for me to buy into.. it may well be true, but.. every GM that I've had, ex girls have had, friends, and family it was always the same crap. window motors, air conditioning, keyless entry, alternators, waterpumps, brakes constantly breaking or wearing out prematurely.. its ridiculous.

As far as Customer Care.. of course they are.. they'd better be, when people are dropping 50+k on a car, they are extra sensitive to customer care.

[exitspeed]

rated #2 in quality? .. sorry man, thats going to be a tough one for me to buy into.. it may well be true, but.. every GM that I've had, ex girls have had, friends, and family it was always the same crap. window motors, air conditioning, keyless entry, alternators, waterpumps, brakes constantly breaking or wearing out prematurely.. its ridiculous.

What year are the GM vehicles you are referring to?


As far as Customer Care.. of course they are.. they'd better be, when people are dropping 50+k on a car, they are extra sensitive to customer care.

Not really. BMW, MB, Audi, Acura, Lexus, Lambo, Ferrari, etc NONE of them are even in the top 100. Like I said, NO car company was on the list anywhere. Cadillac has exceptional service above anything else in the industry.

[just1pepsi]

Mid 90's to 2003 I think was the newest.
If thats JD power and assoc, I dont trust it.
We can agree to disagree.

[exitspeed]

Mid 90's to 2003 I think was the newest.
If thats JD power and assoc, I dont trust it.
We can agree to disagree.

Like I said, anything 2006+ is a different animal. Especially mid to late 90's. That shit was garbage.

EDIT:

I tend to believe sources until they give me a reason not to. I've not had one reliable source discredit JD Power.

[just1pepsi]

I used to work for a company that was rated by JD Power and Assoc and they were aware of what JD Power looks at. With that information they would enact certain practices and do certain things to help skew the numbers in their favor. I cant say the company specifically, but it was in the TV industry.

[exitspeed]

We can agree to disagree.

The CTS-V is still uber fuckin hot and you can't argue that. :)

[just1pepsi]

Exactly. No arguement about its hotness.

[exitspeed]

It just keeps getting better.

GM is killin with this thing.

We thought Bentley's announcement earlier today that it's adding a Speed model to the Continental Flying Spur lineup was exciting news for sedan fans. After all, a 600bhp saloon that can hit 60 mph in 4.5 seconds and reach 200 MPH is pretty exciting, no? Not really when compared to Cadillac's news that the 2009 CTS-V will officially be rated at 556 horsepower, hit 60 mph in 3.5 seconds and run the quarter mile in 12 seconds flat. No offense to Bentley, but a sub-3-second sedan is about as exciting as it can get on a Monday. For the record, the Edmunds' Straightline Blog reports that the sport sedan's 6.2L supercharged V8 will produce 556 hp at 6,100 rpm and 551 pound-feet of torque at 3,800 rpm. That engine is the LSA, derived from the new Corvette ZR1's LS9 motor and detuned for duty in the CTS-V. Fortunately, the LSA wasn't detuned too much and the '09 CTS-V should destroy its German competition, specifically the BMW M5 with its - can't believe we're saying this - relatively meager 500-hp 5.0L V10.

[Dutchmalmiss]

Whoa I NEED to see this in action now. My imagination can only take me so far...

[kyoru]

looks tight I wish they would go easy on the chrome though, maybe use a matte finish.

[just1pepsi]

Its a Cadillac, I want it in gold. *bling*

[exitspeed]

In other CTS news, GM says they'll make a 4cyl Turbo CTS when customers start asking for it!

The CTS is looking even more tempting to me.

"We're ready. When (customers) want it (the option of smaller engines) - we'll do it." That's a (somewhat mangled) quote from Thomas G. Stephens, GM's executive veep for global powertrain and quality, speaking at the inauguration of the General's Powertrain Engineering Development Center last Friday.

[Dutchmalmiss]

Sounds awesome, but don't you think that's taking away from the beefy manliness that Cadillac is? But if this 4cyl turbo makes 260+hp, then I'll STFU.

[exitspeed]

Sounds awesome, but don't you think that's taking away from the beefy manliness that Cadillac is? But if this 4cyl turbo makes 260+hp, then I'll STFU.

Cadillac's don't have to be a muscle car. In fact I don't think the CTS should have to suffer from the same "it should have a V8" mentality that is associated with the Camro, and other muscle cars.

Shit, if it's a little less espensive, lighter, and 260, RWD sedan! Count me the fuck in! Plus i get my dads GM discount.

Radiant Bronze 6 Speed skeet skeet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/radiant.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/radiant2.jpg

[ESmorz]

Cadillac's don't have to be a muscle car. In fact I don't think the CTS should have to suffer from the same "it should have a V8" mentality that is associated with the Camro, and other muscle cars.

Shit, if it's a little less espensive, lighter, and 260, RWD sedan! Count me the fuck in! Plus i get my dads GM discount.

Radiant Metallic Poo 6 Speed skeet skeet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/radiant.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/exitspeed/radiant2.jpg

That is all thank you grandpa mobile.

Looks like a Ford Fusion... well the Fusion looks like it. But, that's a bad thing to be associated with haha.
:2f2f:

[exitspeed]

Dude, if you think that looks like a Fusion, "I feel sorry for you mother."...

The CTS is one of the nicest looking vehicles out there right now.

[Dutchmalmiss]

Dude, if you think that looks like a Fusion, "I feel sorry for you mother."...

The CTS is one of the nicest looking vehicles out there right now.

Yeah the front makes me wanna rape it. I've seen a couple black ones throughout hollywood lowered on black 18s. Not bad at all :naughtyd:

[exitspeed]

I seen the Radiant Bronze the other day for the first time and it's off the bone in person. Imagine that bad boy with some nice VS-XX's or some Profounds?

[ESmorz]

Dude, if you think that looks like a Fusion, "I feel sorry for you mother."...

The CTS is one of the nicest looking vehicles out there right now.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-01-07-9_942969917_brad_pitt6_H204927_L.jpg

http://www.pathfindervillage.org/media-lifestyle-photos/big/guy-on-home.jpg

They could still be related...

You can't deny Ford stole some of the lines and basic shape of the vehicle.

[axiomatik]

the thing that kills me about it is the frickin beltline. why can't manufacturers build a car with a beltline less than 4 feet off the ground anymore? makes it look chunky instead of sleek.

[Dutchmalmiss]

Actually I can picture myself riding in a Radiant Bronze GTS on polished Volks and I'm wearin a gold chain.

[exitspeed]

You can't deny Ford stole some of the lines and basic shape of the vehicle.

Well the Fusion came out in 2005, and the new CTS didn't come out until 2008. So, it would have to be the other way around. But, I'm just going to disagree with you on this one.

the thing that kills me about it is the frickin beltline. why can't manufacturers build a car with a beltline less than 4 feet off the ground anymore? makes it look chunky instead of sleek.

I agree about the beltlines. I don't think anyone mentions beltlines on here more then you and I. But the CTS is attractive enough over-all that I think I'd live.

[ESmorz]

[quote=exitspeed;2214645]Well the Fusion came out in 2005, and the new CTS didn't come out until 2008. So, it would have to be the other way around. But, I'm just going to disagree with you on this one.

http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2005/Cadillac/CTS/Sedan/2005_Cadillac_CTS_ext_1.jpg

The caddy looked alot the same in 05 too.

http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ford_fusion_road_test.jpg

I'd rock the new cts-v in some kind of metallic silver.

[Dutchmalmiss]

Hey you guys aren't the only ones! I hate em too haha. Although they're for safety purposes, that doesn't mean there isn't material (bigger airbags? stronger B pillar? stronger metal?) to try to make a lower beltline. I think some of these designers are just taking the easy way out. Lately when people think of high beltlines, they think high class (ie Bentleys, RRs). So I guess they're fitting in with the latest trend?

[axiomatik]

I think it has more to do with making huge trunks rather than safety. The designers are told that the car has to have so much trunk space, and the only way to do that is by making the trunk very tall, thus necessitating a high beltline.

[exitspeed]

God I love this car!

Tested and runs a 12.5! (http://www.autoilluminati.com/)

Beats out the M5 and E63 AMG.