help me pick a light wheel

[4bangers]

what do you recommend? I can spend around 1000.

17x8.5, which offset is good?

I was thinking RPF1 +22mm
gravity +29mm but a little heavy 22lbs

anything else that's light and will fit s13?

[Bubba]

Contact Logan at A-Spec. He is good on his info and will help you spend your money on quality equipment.

[S14DB]

I assume S13. I would go with the RPF1.

[gotta240]

I would suggest a better size/offset first of all.

Second- 1000 wont really get you many LIGHT wheels... The fno1rc comes in good sizes with your budget.

[eastcoastS14]

lol I wouldnt really describe FNs as light....I was kinda expecting mine to be lighter, but thats just me

[azndoc]

Save up another 500 and get some 57 maxes.

Done.

[firelizard]

Weds TC105N, 7.05kg per wheel
+32 offset, so get some spacers.

[KA-T_240]

weld draglites ehehehhehhehehehehe


The enkies or PRF1 or spend some $$$ and get time attacks!

[250sxdet]

i have a set of 18x9.5 maxes brand new. pm me and ill give you a good deal.

[SixSpeedSleuth]

RPF-1's are hard to beat for the dollar per pound ration. Plus, the looks grow on you over time. Here they are on my S13 for reference. Decent looking IMO.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j15/StopTheExcuses/Aftertintphotoshoot026.jpg

[Jefferson]

Yeah RPF1's are pretty light, you cant really beat the price either they are dirt cheap

[JoeC1982]

those look nice on the hatch, +1 for the rpf1's.

[OptionZero]

buy some rotas

then take a saw

hack away one of the spokes

it'll be HELLA light

[aznpoopy]

gravity's shouldn't even be mentioned in there

in 17x9 the rpf1's are 16 lbs
fn01r-c's are 19lbs.
and you say in 17x8.5 the gravitys are 22 lbs? that is shitty pepboys wheels weight territory. they are pigs. shouldn't even be mentioned.

rpf1's are going to stretch your budget a bit, but they are practically the best wheel in terms of cost/lightness. they are lighter than volk te37's (17 lbs iirc) in the same size and cost HALF as much. so yeah. weds tc105 are lighter... but the difference is less than half a pound. and they cost like $175 more per wheel.

go to www.wheelweights.net. plug away and see if you can find a better wheel on those terms. i doubt you'll be able to.

[4bangers]

where can I get the weds tc105n? for a good price

[sw20>>s14]

where can I get the weds tc105n? for a good price

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1749859&postcount=1784

[4bangers]

will RPF1 17x9 offset +22mm work for front and rear S13 hatch without the need to pull/roll fender? please help me out, I'm about to buy the set. thanks guys

[KA-T_240]

yes. I run x9 +20 just fine. I have a roll/pull on the rear to allow me to fit 275s

[4bangers]

if I just want 245 or possibility 255 on the rear, do I have to pull fender? what's the highest I can go on the front and rear without the need to pull/roll fender?

[Doluck]

Either the RPF1 or these...
http://www.koseijp.co.jp/engfl/specs/s_9_K1-TS.htm
It woudl have to be 17x8 and 17x8 tho.... either way, they weigh the same as the RPF1's ... I love them both!

[4bangers]

on the site, it said the wheel require tunenr adaptor, what is that? and I have to use tuner bolt. Does RPF1 require adaptor and tuner bolt? or can I use the stock bolt? By the way, how big is the 240sx hub?

[sw20>>s14]

theyre just talking about tuner nuts with a tapered seat...its highly recommended that you use aftermarket tuner lug nuts with any aftermarket wheels...240s hub bore is 66.06mm...do some searching to answer your basic questions...

[Slidin240Wayz]

Enkei RPF1s...quality at its finest.

[300hp owen]

for the price you wont find a better wheel brand new than the RPF1 that fits your criteria.

there are other wheels that are just as light but nowhere near as inexpensive as the RPF1.

[Doluck]

on the site, it said the wheel require tunenr adaptor, what is that? and I have to use tuner bolt. Does RPF1 require adaptor and tuner bolt? or can I use the stock bolt? By the way, how big is the 240sx hub?

K1 TS
Just tuner lugs.....
The 17x8 for the front are on sale right now too.... $199
The rears are not.. but still only $259

The RPF1 are $259ea as well... so the price is close.

Let me know... I can hook a brother up!!!

O yea... I also have WedsSport SA-90 on sale .... 17x8 for $229. I belive they are 17lbs.

[trsilvias13]

After you get the wheels that meets your criteria , start a thread of tire weight, I dont think any or close to none, post weight of tires. You will have to get input from ppl and see which one grip best vs weight vs price.

Let me know how it turns out. It sounds like you have the right mindset.

[4bangers]

I think citytireonline.com has some tire weight, but they don't have every tires though.

So RPF1 it is then. However, will +35mm offset OK on a S13 hatch without hitting the KTS coil and suspension arms? I trying not to hit the suspension nor the fender.

So the RPF1 has larger hub bore then 240sx, does the hubring fix that?

[drift freaq]

I think citytireonline.com has some tire weight, but they don't have every tires though.

So RPF1 it is then. However, will +35mm offset OK on a S13 hatch without hitting the KTS coil and suspension arms? I trying not to hit the suspension nor the fender.

So the RPF1 has larger hub bore then 240sx, does the hubring fix that?

+35mm is a terrible offset. If your running a 17x9 you could run a +17-25 without hitting the KTS. I ran KTS with +30mm on 17x7.5 and 17x9 no hitting and you could go lower on the offset without scraping your fenders. Plus a roll and pull is not a big deal. I run 17x9 +12 57 MAX's now and I rolled and pulled with some decamber and its not a problem.

By the way 57 MAX's rock over the kosei's or the Enkei's

[4bangers]

^^^ how is 57 max better than RPF1? is it lighter/stronger/quality?

why is +35mm a bad offset? will it hit the coil? I could go +22mm offset but then it'll be very close or hit the fender.

[S14DB]

This is 17x9+20 on a S13:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/S14DB/240sx/Wheels/S139202.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/S14DB/240sx/Wheels/S139203.jpg

get the +35

[bziggers13]

Enkei RPF1 or FN01rc..
RPF1 would probably cost a little more in the end.

[91silvia]

two options I guess:

1. stick with +22, possibly a slight fender roll, but with stretched tires you should be fine

2. get +35 and you won't hit anything, but you're going to have some gap

[drift freaq]

This is 17x9+20 on a S13:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/S14DB/240sx/Wheels/S139202.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/S14DB/240sx/Wheels/S139203.jpg

get the +35

stock height AJ. The minute you drop the car it decambers and tucks. Plus thats some beefy sidewall action hahahhahhaha.

FYI I run a 17x9 +12 in the rear with a 225/45 17 and a roll with a very slight pull and I have room for a 235 if I wanted to go there easily.

link to pics of my car and in the same thread 240 Falkons who is running a 18x9.5 in the rear with a roll and pull. So size wise a 17x9 +20 would fit just fine. Like I said before +35 is a horrible offset and so 2000-2001 lol

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1663617&postcount=382

Oh and in response to the OP asking about how are 57 MAX's better than the Enkei's . LOL 57 Maximums are Rays! Much better looking light weight wheel and concave from hell. IMO

[4bangers]

thanks guys, I just ordered 17x9 +22mm so I hope everything will be fine.

How come some people with +22mm and the wheel sit flush but still tuck fine under the fender and some people with +22mm but the wheel are way outside the fender? does - light camber change that much?

[S14DB]

Roll and Pull.

[drift freaq]

thanks guys, I just ordered 17x9 +22mm so I hope everything will be fine.

How come some people with +22mm and the wheel sit flush but still tuck fine under the fender and some people with +22mm but the wheel are way outside the fender? does - light camber change that much?

yes it does, also picking the tire size for clearance always helps. If your staying 4 cylinder a 225/45 will work just fine. If you want a little more beef and are going up in HP a 235/45 would work as well.

I would recommend a roll just to to stay on the safe side. Plus a roll and a pull on a S13 looks dope. IMO

If your just going for all out then you could join the 245/255 club and some folks even go wider than that. Though you need HP when your running that much rubber.

[drift freaq]

The issue with 17x9+35 is clearing coil..if he has coils.

ya and the fact that they look kinda sunken. lol Superflush FTW!

[4bangers]

how do I get a roll tool? does any store rent it out?

also, how do I do a pull? thanks man

[Doluck]

why is +35mm a bad offset? will it hit the coil? I could go +22mm offset but then it'll be very close or hit the fender.

I have +35 on the rear .... fits great, had to roll the fenders alittle to stop it from rubbing.

[KA240SX808]

Buddy club P1 QF's?

http://www.buddyclub.us/buddyclub/p1rqf/p1rqfup.html

[A Spec Products]

thanks guys, I just ordered 17x9 +22mm so I hope everything will be fine.


That will probably rub coilover (in the Front)

Or come VERY close to doing so

Especially if you put a 245 on the front like you specified earlier

[S14DB]

That will probably rub coilover (in the Front)

Or come VERY close to doing so

Especially if you put a 245 on the front like you specified earlier

Really?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/S14DB/240sx/Wheels/17x9/Front9.jpg

[4bangers]

^^ really? so if 22mm rub coilover, then how lower do I need to go and not rub coilover?

[A Spec Products]

Really?


I said probably

Different coilovers sometimes yes, sometimes not

Not for sure

For S14 there's slightly more front coilover clearance than S13 (I assume that pic is S14)

I just thought he had a S13

[4bangers]

thanks aspec, i do have a S13. but if 22 will rub the coil then how much will not rub the coil? I thought 22 is already low offset.

[OptionZero]

A 5mm spacer should solve all your problems on the inside.

How much work you have to do to the fenders will depend what ride height you're at.

[TheSquidd]

This is 17x9+20 on a S13:

get the +35

It all depends on how good you are at wheels and fitment. If you're lazy and just want to put on wheels and be done, +35 MAY work for you.

But if you want your car to look half way decent, you'll regret +35. You'll want closer to +10 then +35

Oh and 17x9 +22 would rub coilovers on my car.

And 57 Max aren't THAT light.

[S14DB]

depends if he wants to run a 245 or a 225.

[4bangers]

i'm thinking of 235 tire, will that be ok, not rubbing?

If people keep saying that 22mm will rub coil then how low do I have to go and not rub coilover? then some people say 35mm is good fitment, but isn't that even more closer to the coilover and rub more? i'm confuse.

[TheSquidd]

We each speak from experience of our own cars, with different chassis, alignment, s13, s14, different coilovers, wheel designs etc etc.

I know from MY experience that anything over 17x9 +20 with Silkroad coilovers and 3 degrees of camber, will rub the coilover. And also look really gay and sunk.

How it works for you is different.

The general rule of thumb is, go as low offset as you can. And 35 is not as low as you can go. For sure.

[h22speed]

well the most obvious thing i see here isnt with fitment issues... but with bolt pattern

"HOLY SHIT DID HE SAY BOLT PATTERN??" (-1 rep for sarcasm)

hope you didnt spend all ur 1000 on wheels and tires... if you dont know what a fender roll is i doubt u took the time to remember you had 4 lugs... those wheels come in 5x114.3
http://www.enkei.com/RacingSeriesSpecs/RPF1.html

.. but if you did the 5lug ... snap some pics when you get them mounted im anxious to see how they will look

[Koopa Troopa]

33 GTR's are really light and forged.. I clocked a curb at 80 kp/h and the wheel was undamaged while my tie rod was L shaped...

[4bangers]

yeah, I will do a 5lugs swap S5 front hubs and z32 rear. BTW, do you think the S5 hub lug studs have the same thread size for nissan vehicle? like 1.25 instead of 1.5. I'm looking to buy a tuner lug nuts set.

do you know where i can rent a fender roll tool?

[S14DB]

Rent no, Buy http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=144069

[4bangers]

but I only use it one time and that's it.

on the side note, do I need extended studs for the 9in RPF1 wheels?

[TheSquidd]

If no one has a roller in your area (regional forums, ask around)

Then buy the roller, and rent it out to recoupe the expense.

[sw20>>s14]

By the way 57 MAX's rock over the kosei's or the Enkei's

a big fat meh to you sir...


Enkei RPF1 or FN01rc..
RPF1 would probably cost a little more in the end.

theres a VERY huge reason for that...lol...


Buddy club P1 QF's?

http://www.buddyclub.us/buddyclub/p1rqf/p1rqfup.html

you do realize that QFs go for 500+ a piece right? yeeeeeeaaaaaah, not really the same bracket here...


but I only use it one time and that's it.

on the side note, do I need extended studs for the 9in RPF1 wheels?

youre not a very conceptual learner are you? just visualize and FULLY understand why you need "parts" or "upgrades" before even considering them...the width of a wheel has nothing to do with your studs...only time you even need to consider ext studs is when you plan to run sandwich spacers...

and i know each time someone adds another point of interest or phrase, a whole can of worms will come spilling out...so like stated before, just bum around the forum or search and all these rudimentary questions will be quickly answered...

btw, good choice on these wheels/specs...youre gonna love em

[drift freaq]

33 GTR's are really light and forged.. I clocked a curb at 80 kp/h and the wheel was undamaged while my tie rod was L shaped...

hahhahaha R33 GTR wheels are heavy.




a big fat meh to you sir...





To each his own.lol
I happen to like 57 Max's as do a lot of other people and with the right offset look great. Especially in Matte Black! :D

Oh ya and they look a hell of a lot nicer than FNO1c's or RPF's lol IMO

If I ran around paying attention to other peoples ideas of what to like, I would not be an individual with a mind of his own. good day to you sir...

[Koopa Troopa]

hahhahaha R33 GTR wheels are heavy.

For a stock wheel that costs roughly $150 a wheel? Bollocks to that.

If I ran around paying attention to other peoples ideas of what to like, I would not be an individual with a mind of his own. good day to you sir...

Nah, you just praise a wheel everyone owns. Gram Light 57's are like BMX bikes... Everyone's owned it.

[4bangers]

what lug nuts set do you guys recommend, i'm also looking for a set.

Do you think wheel lock worth it, I mean if a thief wants the wheel they will take it, but wheel lock might slow them down or deter amateur thief. and recommendation?

[OptionZero]

gorillas are cheap and effective

if u want ur lugnuts to be pretty u can ask A Spec for colored ones from Muteki, Rays, Works, or Kics

as for people stealing ur wheels....lug nuts aint gonna stop 'em. Pretty much any one can be defeated by a thief that wants it

if u wanna stop stealing, buy a shotgun

[91silvia]

or get a sensitive car alarm with a pager that will at least scare them away if they actually try something

[4bangers]

i already have a basic alarm. the wheel lock idea is just to prevent high school kids from taking my wheel. Professional thief can take bmw/merc./exotic car needless to say mine. does anyone uses wheel lock anymore?

[OptionZero]

as I said in my reply, Gorilla makes wheel locks that are cheap and quality. You can get 'em at wheel works or online, just google for 'em.

No wheel lock will replace being smart; not parking your shit in dangerous spots, not telling people about your car/mods, not pissing off potential thieves, parking in a garage or secure area when possible, blah blah blah

[aznpoopy]

To each his own.lol
I happen to like 57 Max's as do a lot of other people and with the right offset look great. Especially in Matte Black! :D

Oh ya and they look a hell of a lot nicer than FNO1c's or RPF's lol IMO



the problem with 57max's is they are relatively heavy (despite the brand name), and therefore have no place in a thread about lightweight wheels

57 max at 17x7 is already heavier than a 17x9 rpf1.
rpf1 at 17x7 is a full 2 lbs lighter
even the fn01r-c at 17x7 is lighter by 1.5 lbs, and its really a midweight wheel

they definitely look nice, but fail for weight and cost

[S14DB]

http://splparts.com/Parts/Universal/Exterior/Wheels/accessories/default.htm

[4bangers]

so I got my rpf1 ordered 17x9 +22 and metal hubring 73x66. Now I probably going to get the spl gorilla spline nuts. I'm all set. thanks guys for all your help.

[OptionZero]

the problem with 57max's is they are relatively heavy (despite the brand name), and therefore have no place in a thread about lightweight wheels

57 max at 17x7 is already heavier than a 17x9 rpf1.
rpf1 at 17x7 is a full 2 lbs lighter
even the fn01r-c at 17x7 is lighter by 1.5 lbs, and its really a midweight wheel

they definitely look nice, but fail for weight and cost

yeah, 57series is cast, RPF1 has that MAT process thing

enkei is cheaper and lighter, so if weight and cost are the issue then u can't really go wrong

i just think they're so incredibly ugly