Why is it 240 better than other cars???

[BlueTheTien]

So yeah. I currently have a 2001 E320. For people out there that own that car will know they are pain in the ass to keep. Costs too much on maintenance. It's basically falling apart. I'm pretty sure the tranny's gonna have problem soon. Now I need your help!!! I convinced my father to sell that car before the transmission gives up. I'm trying to get a Zenki again, but my father was like if you can give me good enough reasons why you should get a 240 other than camry. Then he will let me get my Zenki!! Help me out guys~~!!!! please don't tell me cuz it's good for drifting. haha That will not help at all

[murda-c]

s14 or s13? j/w

The only thing better about the 240 is the fact that it's more fun to drive and looks better.

maybe you can tell him it only has room for one passenger so you'll have less friends in it?

[civilized_drifter]

parts are less

[downshift_sideways]

Fuck everything is cheap for a 240sx. Just like the owners.

[wonkuuzenki]

Just like MOST owners. haha.

[xkamikazestormx]

Just like the owners.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[rlpinoy]

everything is pretty cheap pretty crappy on mileage which doesnt help but insurance and registration doesnt cost and arm and a leg. Other than that its sporty and parts are ez to come by and most of the time ez to repair yourself.

[BlueTheTien]

S14 Zenki! The only things that i came up with is that.
1. if I buy a brand new camry, I probably have to do down payment. so I will probably have to get full coverage for the insurance. which is a lot for me since i have 3 points on my license. If I get a 240, then I can just get the liability.
2. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Nissan1995.shtml
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Toyota2008.shtml
For the gas mileage, it's not even that much of a different.

[eastcoastS14]

cheap parts....huge forums like this one where you can get used parts and tons of support from the online community that can help you fix your car for yourself rather that having to bring it to a garage

EDIT: my zenki cost me $2500 and I pay $80 a month for insurance

[FaLKoN240]

EDIT: my zenki cost me $2500 and I pay $80 a month for insurance

Yeah, but insurance depends on a bunch of different factors.

[sijia10358]

the zenki looks likes a old 2 door camry anyways! lol

[luftrofl]

So yeah. I currently have a 2001 E320. For people out there that own that car will know they are pain in the ass to keep. Costs too much on maintenance. It's basically falling apart. I'm pretty sure the tranny's gonna have problem soon. Now I need your help!!! I convinced my father to sell that car before the transmission gives up. I'm trying to get a Zenki again, but my father was like if you can give me good enough reasons why you should get a 240 other than camry. Then he will let me get my Zenki!! Help me out guys~~!!!! please don't tell me cuz it's good for drifting. haha That will not help at all

... so do you want legitimate reasons that we would give or do you want reasons why your dad would buy this car for you (I assume he's paying, correct me if I'm wrong).

Good luck if you want reasons to convince your parents to buy you a coupe instead of a practical car :bowrofl: (I like 240s, but let's be honest, the camry is much better if you're not gonna be having fun in your car)

[lflkajfj12123]

cheap parts

lots of aftermarket support

big online community

i like my death mobile

[bigOdom1]

if you have the option of a brand new camry or a car thats twelve years old you would be stupid to not get the camry. if you cant afford your own car at age 21 then you should be happy you are getting another car from your parents at all.

dont be stupid and get a 240 since you have no other vehicle

[Matej]

To be honest you're going to get pulled over a lot more in the 240, especially in San Jose.

[genericforumname]

insurance still wont be cheap if you have 3 points on your license, and parts may be cheaper but in the long run with mods it will end up costing you a lot more, also keep in mind that even the newest 240 is still almost 10 years old and things WILL start to break, I've already had to replace an alternator, my speakers were dead when I bought it, my interior needs to be completely redone and good luck if you're having to transport people or objects of any real size like I have been.

honestly, I wish I would've waited and gotten a cheaper car because right now I could've bought an evo or sti new off the lot, even a lower priced Lexus if I hadn't spent all my money on my 240.

and as someone else said, if you're not going to race on the weekends just get a better daily driver, Toyota's are still good cars

and for god sakes I hope those points aren't from street racing, if so please please don't get a 240.

as for the being cheaper part, I have over 5k in my engine and am not too far away from the 4k mark on suspension and thats not even touching my interior or wheels and tires, 240's are only cheap if you like to cut corners

or if I would have saved my money I would have a little more than 15000 to drop on a down payment on a new car or a better condition used one

[BlueTheTien]

see the thing is that I ownd a 240 before and I know how it is. I would much rather have a 240. I could buy this on my own, but i don't have the permission that's it. For the insurance's part. I probably have to get full insurance with a brand new car, but with 240 I will just to liability. that makes a huge different

[eastcoastS14]

^^ ur 21.....how dont u have permission?

[wonkuuzenki]

He is probably really not 21.
come on not having permission at 21?? what kind of Bullshit is that?

[BlueTheTien]

see the thing is that I ownd a 240 before and I know how it is. I would much rather have a 240. I could buy this on my own, but i don't have the permission that's it. For the insurance's part. I probably have to get full insurance with a brand new car, but with 240 I will just to liability. that makes a huge different


you see!! being a person that do have respect for his parents and still living underneath his parents' roof, I need to discuss things with my parents. Even with a job, I'm still living with my parents. And they are paying for my school!

[BlueTheTien]

... so do you want legitimate reasons that we would give or do you want reasons why your dad would buy this car for you (I assume he's paying, correct me if I'm wrong).

Good luck if you want reasons to convince your parents to buy you a coupe instead of a practical car :bowrofl: (I like 240s, but let's be honest, the camry is much better if you're not gonna be having fun in your car)


see zenki is like my favorite car. Can't say it's my dream car, but I love it. and yes I need legitimate reasons! haha I have 3000 in hand. so he's not really paying all of it

[projekt_s13]

I dont think you should get the s14 since you already have 2 points.
Your gonna go drifting or drive stupid and get your license suspended.
Get the camry.

[eastcoastS14]

meh true I guess it depends on ur parents....legally you can do whatever you want tho, Im in the same situation but Im 20 but IMHO they should respect your decision making ablility and realize the fact thats its your money and buying a car you can pay cash for makes better economic sense than buying one you would have to make payments on....unless they want to help you pay for it its not really fair to tell you what you can and cant do with your money....also do you really think theyd stop paying for your school if you did this?

I obviously know nothing about you or your family, just voicing my very humble opinion....lol Im in the same type of situation with my fam....trying to convince my fam to cosign a loan for a bike lol

[BlueTheTien]

He is probably really not 21.
come on not having permission at 21?? what kind of Bullshit is that?

Let's see. If you are older than 22 years old. Did your parents pay for your tuition when you went to college?? If they did, then you probably should ask your parents about changing a car and stuff like that. and that's how my parents raised me. thank you

[thedecapitator]

see zenki is like my favorite car. Can't say it's my dream car, but I love it. and yes I need legitimate reasons! haha I have 3000 in hand. so he's not really paying all of it

just get what you want go with that gut feeling because when u get a brand new camry later down the road when u see that zenki that u LOVE then u will regret it!!! because LOVE is very powerful! but to stay on subject and what i wanted to mainly tell you is that... fuck what everybody else says .. seriously just go with your gut feeling because most of the time its right

[BlueTheTien]

meh true I guess it depends on ur parents....legally you can do whatever you want tho, Im in the same situation but Im 20 but IMHO they should respect your decision making ablility and realize the fact thats its your money and buying a car you can pay cash for makes better economic sense than buying one you would have to make payments on....unless they want to help you pay for it its not really fair to tell you what you can and cant do with your money....also do you really think theyd stop paying for your school if you did this?

I obviously know nothing about you or your family, just voicing my very humble opinion....lol Im in the same type of situation with my fam....trying to convince my fam to cosign a loan for a bike lol


you make perfect sense! I'm not saying you are wrong, but my dad isnt telling me what to get! that's the thing. the way it works is like this. we discuss about it, and try to come out with a reasonable conclusion . LOL I tried bike already! haha the conclusion is a NO.

[BlueTheTien]

just get what you want go with that gut feeling because when u get a brand new camry later down the road when u see that zenki that u LOVE then u will regret it!!! because LOVE is very powerful! but to stay on subject and what i wanted to mainly tell you is that... fuck what everybody else says .. seriously just go with your gut feeling because most of the time its right


THANK YOU, but i still appreciate people's response. Some of the people are right! I should get a camry, so I don't get more tickets and etc, but keep in mind, you don't really know me as a person. all I need is some legit reasons why 240 is better than camry.

[89singlecamnoob]

meh true I guess it depends on ur parents....legally you can do whatever you want tho, Im in the same situation but Im 20 but IMHO they should respect your decision making ablility and realize the fact thats its your money and buying a car you can pay cash for makes better economic sense than buying one you would have to make payments on....unless they want to help you pay for it its not really fair to tell you what you can and cant do with your money....also do you really think theyd stop paying for your school if you did this?

I obviously know nothing about you or your family, just voicing my very humble opinion....lol Im in the same type of situation with my fam....trying to convince my fam to cosign a loan for a bike lol


lol, i feel that...getting the parents to cosign on student loans for more money that school actually costs (meh, why not put some work into my car and pay it off after i graduate?) is a tough sell.

[projekt_s13]

THANK YOU, but i still appreciate people's response. Some of the people are right! I should get a camry, so I don't get more tickets and etc, but keep in mind, you don't really know me as a person. all I need is some legit reasons why 240 is better than camry.

S14 is 4 cylinder where as the camry is 6 cylinder.
But i bet the camry saves more gas then the s14,haha

[Gnnr]

Which Camry is he planning to get you? A NEW one?

[murda-c]

get a new v6 camry, then race whoever you were gonna race in the 240, and win, instead of losing.

jk....

[BlueTheTien]

Which Camry is he planning to get you? A NEW one?


Guys I'm not saying for sure a NEW camry. It might new even be a camry. I'm just using camry as a example of those fuel efficient cars, cuz those are the car my dad wants me to drive.

[drift freaq]

Well I respect your respect for your parents. Especially living under their roof. If you were on your own in your own place it would be different. Honestly I can tell you right now. Convincing him on a 240 will be a tough sell in my opinion. I would say steer him off a Camry and towards a IS300 its still RWD its a 225hp inline 6 (love for the 2JZE). Its pratical and fun. Get a 240 on your own dime because they are inexpensive to pick up. Make it the weekend project car and drive the IS300 daily. Best of both worlds that way.

[Gnnr]

drift freaq nailed it, thats why I was asking. You can pick up a used IS300 for a decent price.

[4thHorse]

Camrys are still offered in 2.4L I4 that is the same power as the KA.

What did you do to get the points.

[BlueTheTien]

Well I respect your respect for your parents. Especially living under their roof. If you were on your own in your own place it would be different. Honestly I can tell you right now. Convincing him on a 240 will be a tough sell in my opinion. I would say steer him off a Camry and towards a IS300 its still RWD its a 225hp inline 6 (love for the 2JZE). Its pratical and fun. Get a 240 on your own dime because they are inexpensive to pick up. Make it the weekend project car and drive the IS300 daily. Best of both worlds that way.

drift freaq nailed it, thats why I was asking. You can pick up a used IS300 for a decent price.

THANK YOU! I appreciate that.
I don't wanna buy cars like IS. trust me I did have that thought, but since i'm paying for my own insurance. I would much rather get a 240. haha

[BlueTheTien]

Camrys are still offered in 2.4L I4 that is the same power as the KA.

What did you do to get the points.


LOL that's funny! but please, STAY ON TOPIC!!! haha

[unwed_transient]

get the "camry" or whatever.

you're under the 'rents' thumb. once you crawl out from under it, you can buy a zenki lol.

[4thHorse]

I was on topic. What did you do to get the points? I have a feeling that is why your parents said Camry.

From looking through your parents eyes they want to make sure you get to school every day and not have to worry about a 10 year old car.

[o240isxf0304]

get one of the new small cars, ie xb, xd, fit. just something sensable for someone like you. its still a little fun and saves a ton of gas. and just get a zenki later when you graduate.
if i had my rents paying off my tuition or student loans i'll do anything they ask me to do. and just have fun later on with a degree under the belt.

[TheTimanator]

I read through part of the thread and then saw that your profile says your 21...

Are you not old enough to make decisions without your parents telling you what to do? Just curious... If you have to do what your parents want, just go along with it until your on your own, then you can do whatever you want.

[HalveBlue]

Tell him it's a good investment.

After the next installment of the Fast and the Furious comes out your car's value will quadruple.

[ericcastro]

Screw the camry and the 240sx. Get the new GOLF or RABBIT for your daily driver/college years car!!

Isn't the camry still one of the #1 stolen cars??

and if you do get a 240, u need a S14 since your in college. u cant afford to be working on a car all the time. plus its more comfy for the ladies.

Really, I would find a really nice S14 with lower miles, and take your dad with you to test drive it. Give him a turn behind the wheel as well, it'll help sell him on how comfy and smooth the S14 runs.
HUGE aftermarket parts for 240's too. Not that you need coil overs, but should a strut go, u got a thousand people here with old stock suspension to give away!


in the end, its up to you and your gut. Deep down you know the answer. so just do that. your only 21. buy whatever car ya gotta now, and in less than 3 years, get a 240 on the side.?.

[eulalia]

why dont u just buy a s13? for lets say 2000, then invest money to make it run good, then your parents have no say in it

right? just a suggestion

good luck with your decision

[bigOdom1]

you should really ask yourself "do i want this or do i need this" sounds like you want a 240 but you need something reliable.

maybe you should ask you dad why he doesn't want you to have a 240

[thedecapitator]

you should really ask yourself "do i want this or do i need this" sounds like you want a 240 but you need something reliable.

maybe you should ask you dad why he doesn't want you to have a 240


damn good point.:aw:

[LB.Motoring]

Buy a bmw.

:)

[blitzkrgCT9A]

get a 240 zenki or kouki.

1) you are a college student, even a stock 240sx still looks cooler than a camry. Just about every other college kid i ran into drives a camry or accord. safe car? yes, but too ordinary.

2) get a 2dr so your bumass friends or classmates won't ask you for rides everywhere.

3) being a college student and driving a fixed up 240 will probably, i say probably, have a higher chance of getting you to score chicks than in a camry? lol Thats if they are into imports of course..

[genericforumname]

if you can find an s14 with low miles and in good condition you probably wouldn't want to spend the money that they're asking (you would be approaching 10k for 10 year old car?, not this time buddy)

and to whoever says cars help you get ladies, I don't know about you but
A-my s14 is stiff as hell, no girl I've ever had in it likes the ride quality and
B-I've seen way more girls in busted ass cars than in nice ones, lets face it, women have the judgment skills of a lemming when it comes to relationships.

P.S. I bought my s14 with some body and interior damage and payed 5500 and that was below the Blue Book value, the actual value of these cars is actually pretty high, some s13's are technically worth 3k and up

I'm just saying, from personal experience I would wait and buy a nicer car, except that you have that opportunity right now, don't wait.

P.P.S. I don't think I would trust any 10+ year old car that is regularly abused for daily travel, my s14 still runs well and sometimes I'm not even sure if it will get me where I need to go.

[BlueTheTien]

I read through part of the thread and then saw that your profile says your 21...

Are you not old enough to make decisions without your parents telling you what to do? Just curious... If you have to do what your parents want, just go along with it until your on your own, then you can do whatever you want.

So read the whole thread! I already got people asked about that. haha

why dont u just buy a s13? for lets say 2000, then invest money to make it run good, then your parents have no say in it

right? just a suggestion

good luck with your decision

Buy a bmw.

:)

Sorry, only got the love for zenki. Because of my last Zenki

you should really ask yourself "do i want this or do i need this" sounds like you want a 240 but you need something reliable.

maybe you should ask you dad why he doesn't want you to have a 240

I might not need this, but I do want this, and if I do want this, then I probably need this, because i do love this FREAKING CAR!!!

if you can find an s14 with low miles and in good condition you probably wouldn't want to spend the money that they're asking (you would be approaching 10k for 10 year old car?, not this time buddy)

and to whoever says cars help you get ladies, I don't know about you but
A-my s14 is stiff as hell, no girl I've ever had in it likes the ride quality and
B-I've seen way more girls in busted ass cars than in nice ones, lets face it, women have the judgment skills of a lemming when it comes to relationships.

P.S. I bought my s14 with some body and interior damage and payed 5500 and that was below the Blue Book value, the actual value of these cars is actually pretty high, some s13's are technically worth 3k and up

I'm just saying, from personal experience I would wait and buy a nicer car, except that you have that opportunity right now, don't wait.

P.P.S. I don't think I would trust any 10+ year old car that is regularly abused for daily travel, my s14 still runs well and sometimes I'm not even sure if it will get me where I need to go.



I did own a Zenki before!

[silnismo]

A) if something breaks, you can most likely fix it yourself.

B) F***'in feels how a sports car should feel.

C) amazing platform for any motorsport.

D) enough room for the necessites. (and some booty)

[Edgar]

The answer to the question and topic of the thread.

It's not, anything is better than 240sx money pits.

[exitspeed]

Show your dad my response.

Camry > 240sx

As far as an over-all commuter car, there's no comparison. Obviously, if your talking about a track car it's a different story.

[SILVIA_KIDs14.5]

Fuck everything is cheap for a 240sx. Just like the owners.
def not all 240 owners aint cheap #1 and as far as parts go depends wether you want qauaility or not

[axiomatik]

just tell him it's a two door camry.

[exitspeed]

def not all 240 owners aint cheap #1 and as far as parts go depends wether you want qauaility or not

Soooo, are you saying they are??? :ughug:

[status:one]

You can always make a 240 as reliable as you want it to be. 240 > camry

[SILVIA_KIDs14.5]

Soooo, are you saying they are??? :ughug:
no i'm saying that most are not cheap and that you can get them cheap and cheap parts if you want to sacrafice quality

[vvtisupra]

Easy to work on. Reliable

[unicoladron]

cuz...uhhhh....camry's are fucking gay?

[gotta240]

your dad is a wiser man. The camry is a far better car than a 240.

240s are shitty cars that are far less reliable than camrys in general, providing you do the same maintenence to both.

my buddy beat the living shit out of a camry throughout our high school years. Car made it to 300k. miles no prob.

[projectRDM]

How in hell has the absolutely stupid thread made it to three pages?

If you really need a reason to justify buying a 12 yr old car versus a brand new one, you're an idiot, period. Whether it looks cooler, is faster, or gets more pull has nothing to do with it, especially when it's free.

[tougemaster]

zenki is nice.. but i wont daily it just weekend or random drive and track it.

just get the camary and save your own money for the Zenki...

[98koukile]

Let me get this straight... you have a mercedes now thats 7 years old, and you'll have trouble paying insurance on a camry which would be cheaper than a 240? Buy a new rx8, on paper its a 1.3L 4 door car with full airbags, cheap ass insurance

[BlueTheTien]

def not all 240 owners aint cheap #1 and as far as parts go depends wether you want qauaility or not

Hahaha, hey not all 240 owners are cheap! I wasn't one of them!

How in hell has the absolutely stupid thread made it to three pages?

If you really need a reason to justify buying a 12 yr old car versus a brand new one, you're an idiot, period. Whether it looks cooler, is faster, or gets more pull has nothing to do with it, especially when it's free.

Well....let's see, I already said it before. I'm using a brand new camry as a example! since that's the newest and the most reliable car out there. He could end up getting me a 2000 camry. you never know. So please drop it with that "you are stupid for not getting a brand new camry" Please remember the thread is about how to convince my dad to let me buy the 240 and not which one should I buy.

ps. This thread became 3 pages because people are not staying on topic.

Let me get this straight... you have a mercedes now thats 7 years old, and you'll have trouble paying insurance on a camry which would be cheaper than a 240? Buy a new rx8, on paper its a 1.3L 4 door car with full airbags, cheap ass insurance

My dad paid cash for the mercedes when he bought it. so there's no down payment or anything like that when he passed it to me. Right now I only insure with liability right now. SO~~~That's way cheaper with full coverage, but it's stupid, cuz if I do crash my mercedes. No one's gonna pay for it.

[SimpleS14]

How's your social life? I know its a random question...but so is this thread...

I ask because the 240 can be reliable...but dependent on your social life...its not practical.

I'm eyeing a sedan in the future...possibly M35 or *gasp* G8. I need the room for friends, lady friends and their friends. Room to haul stuff, withstand a drive through D.C. and the pimp factor (from the M).

[BlueTheTien]

How's your social life? I know its a random question...but so is this thread...

I ask because the 240 can be reliable...but dependent on your social life...its not practical.

I'm eyeing a sedan in the future...possibly M35 or *gasp* G8. I need the room for friends, lady friends and their friends. Room to haul stuff, withstand a drive through D.C. and the pimp factor (from the M).


You are right! haha well...I have a gf, and i don't really go out much anymore. Somehow I'm really lazy to go out now... so yeah, that's the main reason i wanna buy a zenki, cuz I don't do much.

[johngriff]

Go test drive a 92-99 Bmw 325 for more than half an hour.

Then decide if you want a 240sx. Prices on the cars are not that much more when taking into account "JDM Inflation".

[BlueTheTien]

Go test drive a 92-99 Bmw 325 for more than half an hour.

Then decide if you want a 240sx. Prices on the cars are not that much more when taking into account "JDM Inflation".


If I was to switch to a beamer i might as well just keep my benz

[SimpleS14]

If I was to switch to a beamer i might as well just keep my benz

why do you say that? They are two different cars....one of them is actually sporty and has a manual transmission.

[SimpleSexy180]

why is the 240 so great?

because it feels like how a car is suppose to.

stop saying 240 owners are cheap. ONLY YOU ARE CHEAP.

[garagelu]

I dont think majority of the 240sx owners are cheap. I think we are actually smart because we dont just drop our car off at a shop and pick it back up with thousands of dollars in modifications.

[khoadogg]

S14 Zenki! The only things that i came up with is that.
so I will probably have to get full coverage for the insurance. which is a lot for me since i have 3 points on my license. If I get a 240, then I can just get the liability.



Best reason... girls hate 240's so you'll save a ton of money! hahah

[BlueTheTien]

Best reason... girls hate 240's so you'll save a ton of money! hahah


haha too late. I already got a gf. thank god she doesn't spend too much money. she actually helps me save

[s13Dr1ft]

im suprised this thread is still open.

Usually when parents tell you to show them that something is better or worth anything, they already know what there going to do.

Have them buy you a camry, save up a couple checks and buy a 240.

[millworkman]

240s are better cause mine is paid off.

[blownmotor]

Because they are the next civic

[inertiaticism]

There's nothing wrong with that. Civics are reliable, cheap, simple and modifying them is effective and affordable if you do it right.
FWD is kinda of lame, but it gets the job done, there's plenty of quick civics around.

But then again, what do I know? FWD DUM LOL HONDUH

[RedStage]

you see!! being a person that do have respect for his parents and still living underneath his parents' roof, I need to discuss things with my parents. Even with a job, I'm still living with my parents. And they are paying for my school!

Dude, that rocks.

My thoughts....It's a ten+ year old car. More and more of them are disappearing daily (hell, I'm in Japan and have been ordering parts from the US cuz you guys keep stealing all the parts then wrecking them...lol, I saw the crash thread....)

I'd try to appeal to the "I'd like to keep this car for the long haul, kinda like a collectors car." Who know's maybe that will work.

You've definately got a hard sell. Didn't see why you got the points...or what happened to your old zenki, but maybe these are reasons why they are not onboard with you getting another one....? I'm just guessing (not trying to be an :mrmeph: ) but I am thinking the points and getting rid of the old 240 are interlinked somehow....

[azndummie]

It will make you become cheap, because even if you aren't right now, you will be just because you are a 240 owner.

[jskateborders]

Let's see. If you are older than 22 years old. Did your parents pay for your tuition when you went to college?? If they did, then you probably should ask your parents about changing a car and stuff like that. and that's how my parents raised me. thank you
fuck it, thats true. If I could get my rents to drop a dime or even cosign my tuition, I would drive whatever they wanted me to.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

So you can drag race and drift on the streets and waste all the money you have on parts that will never amount to anything if resold!!!!:rl:

[morbid]

I was debating between an 06+ sti, 04+ 350z, and 04+ g35.

I ended up buying a 93 240sx coupe. If you like the car enough, then just get it. I've wanted a 240sx for a while and when I came across a deal I couldn't pass it up. I could have had a new, fast car, but I got my 240. And I am actually happy about it. I do not have to drive the 240 everyday though, so if you do then our situations are a little different.

Honestly, I would NEVER buy a camry, but thats just me. Not my style at all.

[chibo]

Get a new car, you will regret buying an old shitbox. I hate these cars but they're cheap as hell.
Your parents are smarter than you give them credit for. I wish I'd listened a long time ago.