Originally Posted by downshift_sideways Just like the owners.

Originally Posted by eastcoastS14 EDIT: my zenki cost me $2500 and I pay $80 a month for insurance

Originally Posted by BlueTheTien So yeah. I currently have a 2001 E320. For people out there that own that car will know they are pain in the ass to keep. Costs too much on maintenance. It's basically falling apart. I'm pretty sure the tranny's gonna have problem soon. Now I need your help!!! I convinced my father to sell that car before the transmission gives up. I'm trying to get a Zenki again, but my father was like if you can give me good enough reasons why you should get a 240 other than camry. Then he will let me get my Zenki!! Help me out guys~~!!!! please don't tell me cuz it's good for drifting. haha That will not help at all

insurance still wont be cheap if you have 3 points on your license, and parts may be cheaper but in the long run with mods it will end up costing you a lot more, also keep in mind that even the newest 240 is still almost 10 years old and things WILL start to break, I've already had to replace an alternator, my speakers were dead when I bought it, my interior needs to be completely redone and good luck if you're having to transport people or objects of any real size like I have been.

honestly, I wish I would've waited and gotten a cheaper car because right now I could've bought an evo or sti new off the lot, even a lower priced Lexus if I hadn't spent all my money on my 240.

and as someone else said, if you're not going to race on the weekends just get a better daily driver, Toyota's are still good cars

and for god sakes I hope those points aren't from street racing, if so please please don't get a 240.

as for the being cheaper part, I have over 5k in my engine and am not too far away from the 4k mark on suspension and thats not even touching my interior or wheels and tires, 240's are only cheap if you like to cut corners

or if I would have saved my money I would have a little more than 15000 to drop on a down payment on a new car or a better condition used one

Originally Posted by BlueTheTien see the thing is that I ownd a 240 before and I know how it is. I would much rather have a 240. I could buy this on my own, but i don't have the permission that's it. For the insurance's part. I probably have to get full insurance with a brand new car, but with 240 I will just to liability. that makes a huge different

Originally Posted by luftrofl ... so do you want legitimate reasons that we would give or do you want reasons why your dad would buy this car for you (I assume he's paying, correct me if I'm wrong). Good luck if you want reasons to convince your parents to buy you a coupe instead of a practical car (I like 240s, but let's be honest, the camry is much better if you're not gonna be having fun in your car)

Originally Posted by wonkuuzenki He is probably really not 21. come on not having permission at 21?? what kind of Bullshit is that?

Originally Posted by BlueTheTien see zenki is like my favorite car. Can't say it's my dream car, but I love it. and yes I need legitimate reasons! haha I have 3000 in hand. so he's not really paying all of it

Originally Posted by eastcoastS14 meh true I guess it depends on ur parents....legally you can do whatever you want tho, Im in the same situation but Im 20 but IMHO they should respect your decision making ablility and realize the fact thats its your money and buying a car you can pay cash for makes better economic sense than buying one you would have to make payments on....unless they want to help you pay for it its not really fair to tell you what you can and cant do with your money....also do you really think theyd stop paying for your school if you did this? I obviously know nothing about you or your family, just voicing my very humble opinion....lol Im in the same type of situation with my fam....trying to convince my fam to cosign a loan for a bike lol

Originally Posted by thedecapitator just get what you want go with that gut feeling because when u get a brand new camry later down the road when u see that zenki that u LOVE then u will regret it!!! because LOVE is very powerful! but to stay on subject and what i wanted to mainly tell you is that... fuck what everybody else says .. seriously just go with your gut feeling because most of the time its right

Originally Posted by eastcoastS14 meh true I guess it depends on ur parents....legally you can do whatever you want tho, Im in the same situation but Im 20 but IMHO they should respect your decision making ablility and realize the fact thats its your money and buying a car you can pay cash for makes better economic sense than buying one you would have to make payments on....unless they want to help you pay for it its not really fair to tell you what you can and cant do with your money....also do you really think theyd stop paying for your school if you did this? I obviously know nothing about you or your family, just voicing my very humble opinion....lol Im in the same type of situation with my fam....trying to convince my fam to cosign a loan for a bike lol

Originally Posted by BlueTheTien THANK YOU, but i still appreciate people's response. Some of the people are right! I should get a camry, so I don't get more tickets and etc, but keep in mind, you don't really know me as a person. all I need is some legit reasons why 240 is better than camry.