any s2k owners with decent wheel fitment?

[94cc0rd]

so i was bored and started browsing s2ki.com

went to their wheel fitment guide and their offsets are ridiculously high..

they say to fit a 10" wheel in the rear of a s2000, the offset would have to be a minimum of +65... :wtf:

why is it that s2k's need such high offsets? can these problems be fixed the same way we fit wide/low offset wheels on s-chassis cars? stretched tires, camber, fender modification?

anyways... i'm just bored and looking to strike up some interesting conversation... :coolugh:

[HaLo]

Well, I have an S2000 but have not started in looking in aftermarket wheels, yet.

I suspect the offset is mainly due to the double wishbone design that fits within the wheel almost.

"crazy" s2k offsets are in the +40 range. You can fit 10" in the back, with rolling and stretched tires... Check the for sale section on s2ki, tons of aftermarket wheels for sale there.

[ms!3]

no offense but its a honda. Not many honda guys i know are into doing that. s2k guys i know are all happy with 8jj wheels and shit. Plus the rotors alone are about as flush as our stock wheels fit. you could throw on some +30s and prob have to roll and stretch or some shit. haha.

[yarou]

Yeah seriously, I own a bone stock 02' so I'll try to show you the "best" of s2ki.com. The "INSANE!!!" offset range is like 30-45, no one is willing to go low enough to look nice, not many are even willing to roll, most people get get the ASM rear overfenders usually don't need it. s2k owners are usually prissy, behind the times, and are NOT OPEN MINDED to wheel fitment(and a number of other stuff).

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/IMG_5998r.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/IMG_5844r.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/PIMP4.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/img8832copyyr0.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/IMG_0243.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/DSC_0127sized.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/CopyofJet129.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/IMG_2957.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/three.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/508336154_623c527b1e_o.jpg

There's a couple more with pretty nice fitment, lemme try to find them

Ugh, this is the only picture I can find.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/foola/DannyS2K1.jpg

[jeeper_x]

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6572/img3769resizedc8.jpg

a s2k in thailand....look at the concave face of the rims in rear....i can find out the spec when my friend comes online

[mangoes]

wow, sexy, i like this thread :o

[Tops*]

went to their wheel fitment guide and their offsets are ridiculously high..

So are Subaru's. Their offsets are ridiculously high as well. My friend has an RS-T with +40 something offset wheels. It's weird. :loco:

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Yuta_I/IMG_5835r.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Yuta_I/IMG_5843r.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Yuta_I/IMG_5842r.jpg

[k's_silvia2.0]

Ill ask the local SK2 team in my area for some input.
There called Top down and they all have nice hondas:???:

[yudalicious]

so i was bored and started browsing s2ki.com

went to their wheel fitment guide and their offsets are ridiculously high..

they say to fit a 10" wheel in the rear of a s2000, the offset would have to be a minimum of +65... :wtf:

why is it that s2k's need such high offsets? can these problems be fixed the same way we fit wide/low offset wheels on s-chassis cars? stretched tires, camber, fender modification?

anyways... i'm just bored and looking to strike up some interesting conversation... :coolugh:

Why would it be a problem that needs fixing? It's probably due to the design/fitment of the suspension. Wheel offset design follows car suspension/body design, not the other way around. Higher offset wheels are also lighter than the same wheel in a lower offset, though that comes at the expense of concave looking goodness.

[HaLo]

no offense but its a honda. Not many honda guys i know are into doing that. s2k guys i know are all happy with 8jj wheels and shit. Plus the rotors alone are about as flush as our stock wheels fit. you could throw on some +30s and prob have to roll and stretch or some shit. haha.

Wow... you need to learn a little before saying such things. OEM AP2 wheels are 8.5" large in the rear... If you checked on S2Ki.com, you'd notice that most people do change their wheels.

Yeah, some S2K owner are fussy and don't want to mess their car up. For example, me, I don't want to mod the car. I may speak for myself, but when you have a stock car that has decent power and handles well, you don't feel the need to mod the car anymore...

[cdlong]

i like how offset is the new e-penis measurement. who cares what the numerical offset is as long as you can cram big enough tires in there and the car hauls ass. s2ks have higher stock offsets and aren't rediculously sunken. what did you expect?

[HaLo]

Also, Why bother about running a low offset when a high offset does look flush?

[kevtrinh]

lip. msg lengtha!

[cdlong]

lip makes you faster, does it?

[IIIXziuR]

Yeah stock does just fine but, seeing some "dished" wheels does look pretty cool. Mainly for aesthetic purposes only.

If I owned an AP it would pretty much be stock like HaLo said.

[B18C5MK1]

http://a178.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_32971e43c95a277ddd46fa1760604539.jpg
http://a460.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/123/l_a27dedc2e8682cd1416ea5811ea2d933.jpg
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http://a349.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_088bd8f4e3e2663c75e1e944b9dbb3c4.jpg

[HaLo]

lip. msg lengtha!
Lip is played out and overrated. ;)

[SW20Racer]

Higher offset wheels are also lighter than the same wheel in a lower offset

:confused: do what now?

[TheTimanator]

they say to fit a 10" wheel in the rear of a s2000, the offset would have to be a minimum of +65... :wtf:

It's not about who has the lowest offset, it's about fitment. Who cares about the offset as long as it's flush?

I've been looking at wheels for my 98 impreza 2.5RS and it looks like much lower than +40 ish dependent on width and I'm rubbing...after rolling the fenders.

EDIT: and someone explain why high offset wheels would be lighter. lol :rolleyes:

[VROOOM]

http://a178.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_32971e43c95a277ddd46fa1760604539.jpg
http://a460.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/123/l_a27dedc2e8682cd1416ea5811ea2d933.jpg
[/IMG]

this car is awesome

[HaLo]

i'd post mine, but it has stock wheels... lol

[koukimonster139]

Higher offset wheels are also lighter than the same wheel in a lower offset

lay off grandpas cough syrup kid

[Kn1ves]

The offset is due to the design of the car itself. Check also FD RX-7s. They're the same range as Hondas +40~

[kouki_s14]

The offset is due to the design of the car itself. Check also FD RX-7s. They're the same range as Hondas +40~


The hubs on the cars are just postioned farther out (more flush with the fender for you zilvia people). So anything with offsets say at +20 or lower(depending on wheel width of course) will stick out, buttttt there is one solution....widebody! (pulling fenders, flares, etc.)

[Gumballf355]

http://media0.dropshots.com/photos/149/20070616/182244.jpg
http://media0.dropshots.com/photos/149/20070616/181749.jpg
http://media0.dropshots.com/photos/149/20060825/123540.jpg

[babowc]

those.. XD9?
look really nice on those s2ks.

trying to get an AP2 myself...: puts on flamesuit:

[yarou]

Wow... you need to learn a little before saying such things. OEM AP2 wheels are 8.5" large in the rear... If you checked on S2Ki.com, you'd notice that most people do change their wheels.

Yeah, some S2K owner are fussy and don't want to mess their car up. For example, me, I don't want to mod the car. I may speak for myself, but when you have a stock car that has decent power and handles well, you don't feel the need to mod the car anymore...

It's still true though that a large majority of dudes who get new wheels stay in the 8J range, especially all the rota guys(which are in the many)

[qt_240]

Yeah seriously, I own a bone stock 02' so I'll try to show you the "best" of s2ki.com. The "INSANE!!!" offset range is like 30-45, no one is willing to go low enough to look nice, not many are even willing to roll, most people get get the ASM rear overfenders usually don't need it. s2k owners are usually prissy, behind the times, and are NOT OPEN MINDED to wheel fitment(and a number of other stuff).

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/IMG_5998r.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/IMG_5844r.jpg

^^
These are my buddies car's..(esp. the Red one..known him since high school) He had to roll the front fenders a little.. and i think those offsets are +38 all around.. and he's rocking pretty decent camber.. and BTW.. you should see my Boy with the red S2k take that thing sidways.. he can tandem with S chassis no problem..

[muddafakka]

Some nice S2Ks in here...

[Torrid]

That's about what a GTO looks like with 9.5 wide with about a 48+ offset.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5310/dsc01851pv6.jpg

[HaLo]

those.. XD9?
look really nice on those s2ks.

trying to get an AP2 myself...: puts on flamesuit:

Why an AP2? AP1s are so much better!! :) LESS TORQUE!!!:2f2f: :2f2f:

[yudalicious]

:confused: do what now?

The same size/model wheels will be heavier with a lower offset than a higher one, though really it's mostly negligible.

[yudalicious]

lay off grandpas cough syrup kid

Thanks for the tip, guy who is younger than I am, appreciate your wisdom.

[SW20Racer]

The same size/model wheels will be heavier with a lower offset than a higher one, though really it's mostly negligible.

im not seeing it man. i've never seen any manufacturer have to add anything to the wheel to make it stronger or something wierd like that to achieve a lower offset. would yuri care to step in on this one?

[cdlong]

total speculation, but here goes.

the middle of the hoop is pretty thin while the bead seats are thicker. if you attach the spokes in the middle, you'll have to beef it up a little. or if you use the same design for the wheel at different offsets, the pad will be thicker and require more material. both of which add more weight. it's pretty minimal and really could go either way, but in general, it's probably true.

[94cc0rd]

haha I love how everything becomes a big argument... jeez I was just asking a simple question...

but this is what I was talking about..
http://media0.dropshots.com/photos/149/20060825/123540.jpg

Is it that difficult to pull off this look with s2000's?

That looks flush... while this next one isn't that flush in my opinion

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/IMG_5998r.jpg

It does look nice but not flush.

Please remember, this is pure curiosity... no more fighting... pictures are good though :bigok:

[yarou]

The above picture you posted, only like 2 guys in the world (that I've seen at least) have fitment like that. Apparently most owners look down upon that kind of fitment, difficult though? Probably not

[94cc0rd]

haha yea... That's what I was trying to get at (i guess, not even sure myself.. lol)

anyways, If I had a s2k, I would track that guy down and see what it took to get fitment like that...

I dunno, I guess owning a s-chassis made me a wheel fitment whore in a sense... my car isn't uber flush or anything... basic 17x9/10 on my car... but i definately dig the look on all cars now...

so whenever I see any car with wheels, I judge it on flushness... haha is nobody else like that?!?!?

[s13poop]

So are Subaru's. Their offsets are ridiculously high as well. My friend has an RS-T with +40 something offset wheels. It's weird. :loco:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/joshtheazn/nasioc85.jpg

what about subarus? :keke:

[pr0ject TRUENO]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/joshtheazn/nasioc85.jpg

what about subarus? :keke:

thats widebody buddy

we're talking stock body


:sadwavey:

[s13poop]

meh

i saw over fenders so i said fuck it

just showing whats possible..

[rainier]

Heres my buddy's

http://a314.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/26/l_268e60bbecfc6942f0ebf56c4bb5b749.jpg
http://a867.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/99/l_59275c9b71e1534cd63b0fcb87d337b2.jpg

[94cc0rd]

^^ That looks more flush than the other ones posted... looks like work emo CR KAIs? do you know the exact sizes + tire sizes?

[yudalicious]

if you use the same design for the wheel at different offsets, the pad will be thicker and require more material.

yea. it's negligible for most purposes, don't really know why I mentioned that.

[yarou]

^^ That looks more flush than the other ones posted... looks like work emo CR KAIs? do you know the exact sizes + tire sizes?

If I remember right, those rears are the highest offset that's concaved 17x9+44 or +38

[BOOSTLOVER]

I went with 17x7.5+50 in the front and 17x9+63 in the rear and had no issues. Thats pobably the most common size.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e110/BOOSTLOVER/DuckS2000010.jpg

[xamraci]

Its VERy rare to see s2ks with what would be deemed "PROPER OFFSET"
http://www.sportcarclub.com/galeria/albums/userpics/10008/s2k.jpg

Cant find the pictures of the white car with the RED/POLISHED miesters or professors

[ixfxi]

The offset is due to the design of the car itself. Check also FD RX-7s. They're the same range as Hondas +40~

hehe I ran some of those back in the day! FD wheels rock. 16x8 +40 indeed. Fit like a charm if you run some spacers, but other than that.. no problem. Light, strong and good looking. Highly recommended wheels.... affordable too.


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/IMG_5998r.jpg

It does look nice but not flush.

Please remember, this is pure curiosity... no more fighting... pictures are good though :bigok:

Stop smoking crack. That car looks nice. If its not "flush" then you're a fanboy homo who wants everything rediculously perfect.. like complaining about a woman for having a small imperfection. Dude, you need room for suspension travel, compression, etc. Most of the fags on this forum lower their cars excessively and mount wheels that dont fit right, and wouldnt be caught dead driving their shitmobiles through a canyon.

If its one thing about S2000 customers that I know, is that they are more careful (like my NSX customers) about buying stupid shit that NEGATIVELY effects their cars already good performance. Which, is something I cannot say about 240 owners.. who are typically guilty of doing too many mods that fuck up their overall performance.


so whenever I see any car with wheels, I judge it on flushness... haha is nobody else like that?!?!?

Like i said....

[HaLo]

wow, couldn't have said it better Mike!!

[94cc0rd]

Well, I did say the car looked nice. I just think a lot of s2ks could look *nicer* if the wheels were a little more flush. I'm not one of those guys who thinks only negative offsets are flush, or whatever, but everybody has their own definition for "flush".

[firelizard]

yea. it's negligible for most purposes, don't really know why I mentioned that.
Me neither. I neg repped, the original, but I'll posi rep this post for not being a knob.
+1 (after I spread some around, of course)

[ms!3]

Wow... you need to learn a little before saying such things. OEM AP2 wheels are 8.5" large in the rear...

yea i prob should. Im not a honda guy. But generally speaking i was somewhat correct. right? lol

[Anto]

Heres my buddy's

http://a314.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/26/l_268e60bbecfc6942f0ebf56c4bb5b749.jpg
http://a867.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/99/l_59275c9b71e1534cd63b0fcb87d337b2.jpg


Is that Tim?

[xcusememisswyn]

Who cares about the offsets.

S-chassis owners are offset whores b/c we can fit wheels with big width and low offsets under our fenders, if an S2k or Subaru tried that they would be sticking out two inches all around.

Would you rather a 7JJ with a +10 offset or 9JJ withe a +35 offset. Because they would need a 7JJ in order to run offsets so low.

Doesnt mean they suck at fitment, just means good fitment for them is different than good fitment for us.

18x9.5 +30
http://i11.tinypic.com/7ynryv7.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/7w9kxux.jpg

[Yuri]

im not seeing it man. i've never seen any manufacturer have to add anything to the wheel to make it stronger or something wierd like that to achieve a lower offset. would yuri care to step in on this one?

Lower offset generally means a thicker pad, but it's all weight added to the very center of the wheel, so it will have the smallest effect on inertia.
Not really an issue.

We haven't really done any S2k fitments, but I have researched them, and 8" +30 and 9" +30 seems to make a lot of S2k owners happy.

[S13Boosts]

hell yeah grab a ap1 way cheaper too:doh:

[yudalicious]

Me neither. I neg repped, the original, but I'll posi rep this post for not being a knob.
+1 (after I spread some around, of course)

lol... can't believe people actually negative repped me for something that is correct, however miniscule... oh well. should I fire back with the negative reps??? lol I kid...

[adrians_s13]

wow... suddenly I've grown a new spot in my heart for s2k's... <3 <3

but most newer cars nowadays are rockin higher offsets... iirc, the lexus IS's are also rockin higher offsets

whats horrible is seeing s-chassis rockin ap1 oem wheels :-X
(I have a particular white s14.5 in mind, lol, I will not mention any names tho)

[mrpeepers]

whats with all the fighting?

anyways i don't see anything wrong with these s2k's. I mean the wheels fit and it doesn't look stupid right?

Most s2k guys i know like to autoX only and its a different culture from us nissan guys(NOT the tuner culture =P).

I dunno, but to me these cars look great and you can see the owner's individualism in each car as well

[dkingkong]

woooo!
all these APs look fantastic!
imo.

[Farzam]

S2k can fit 18x9 +20

[rainier]

Is that Tim?

Negative. unless its another name for Kyle

[projekt_s13]

Heres some S2k eye candy
Not feeling the sideskirts

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/diverseasyn/IMG_3878.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/diverseasyn/IMG_3532.jpg


http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTEzNzQ0MzZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
http://poindexter.smugmug.com/photos/18332612-M.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3429/dsc00687copy8sg.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4782/dsc00701copy3xo.jpg
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/1369/img6158r5vw.jpg

Looks like a smiley face :D
http://www.s2000-honda.de/s2000/honda_s2000_ap1_82.jpg

[nevaland9]

im thinking about getting a S2K where the fuck are the offsets and widths? have we forgotten this is zilvia?

[boostdd]

i had a s2k before, and you cant run that low offset like you can on the S chassis, here i see ppl runnin 0 offset, never hurd that on s2ki lol, usually 30 something was the lowest, but most folks do run a 9 to 9.5 rear, and the ones running lower offsets usually ran smaller tires, they had the dish just not the width anymore, I ran a 255 rear with no rubbin or rollin. My bro ran a 265 issue free. My sti seems similar, im runnin 43 offset with 255 all around, least my rears have some dish to it lol

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/boostdd/rearleft.jpg