whats the best way to install wide rear fenders???

[colombian240sx]

well guys im about to put my rear wheels that are 11.5 wide, and thats why i have to install my rear wide fenders, but i don't know whats the best way to do it, so if you know whats the best way, or you have any suggestions please lend me know.

thanks.

[RPS13FREAK]

19.5 inches WIDE?! WHOA

[Phoenix_95]

Wurd...you much have gotten those from A Spec lol. Thats like 18 feet worth of lip :D

[colombian240sx]

jejeje i typed it wrong sorry!

[colombian240sx]

the wide its 11.5

[Phoenix_95]

Well, there are several FAQs on zilvia from various other people that went widebody. If you just search for them...I know there is at least 1 that is VERY in depth and should be able to answer every question that you might have. Also, if you haven't done bodywork before you might should take it to a bodyshop. Just to avoid the whole "Oh shit, what have I done to my car?!" speech. :hsdance:

[Matej]

Rivets look the coolest. :)

[Dousan_PG]

wide fendres are easy
welder
plasma cutter
rivet gun and propane torch and hammer is about all you need
takes a few hours to do it right

i want to mold my rear wides in
looks sooo fucking awesome when its smooth amd molded
but alas, no cash
and it will crack due to regular track events. :(

[3-240's-N-aMule]

Here ya go my good man. Dont know if i can post a walk through from other 240 sites but o well! Complete rear widebody install.
http://nismokc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3483

[fromxtor]

^^ Thats a good write up...but this picture scares me. I don't like the possibility of the extra fender skin cutting into a tire.
http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/543/19391DSC00994-med.JPG

[colombian240sx]

thanks guy it was a lot of help!!!!

Esteban.

[Dousan_PG]

ugh nice write up
but you cut those fenders waaay too low
i cut mine like at least 1+ inch ABOVE the body line

[3-240's-N-aMule]

ugh nice write up
but you cut those fenders waaay too low
i cut mine like at least 1+ inch ABOVE the body line

I figure if u cut too much of the rear away, you lose a good bit of structural integrity in the rear which would make the ass of it more flimsy and flexible. Also i dont think you could slam it that low if you're runnin correct size wheels (18inch and larger and hella wide) on widebody to warrant a reason for cutting so far up. Unless you run over an elephant and you dont have coils, you're wheel shouldnt travel that high and outwards to slice your tire. I could be wrong though.

[atom]

In that writeup the guy did cut above the body line? He just cut it real low at first to split the panels then riveted the inner panel up higher, then lastly he chopped the rest off. 10th pic down you can see he chopped the rest of it off after riveting.

[Dousan_PG]

I figure if u cut too much of the rear away, you lose a good bit of structural integrity in the rear which would make the ass of it more flimsy and flexible. Also i dont think you could slam it that low if you're runnin correct size wheels (18inch and larger and hella wide) on widebody to warrant a reason for cutting so far up. Unless you run over an elephant and you dont have coils, you're wheel shouldnt travel that high and outwards to slice your tire. I could be wrong though.

yes you are wrong
haha

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/new%20s13/608061550_c919f5a704_o.jpg

shit NEEDS to be wide and low
WIDE AND LOW
18" wheels . 245 tires
soft rear suspension, mega grip minimal camber.
gotta cut above that line. u can see how much it tucks under this compression.


flimsly? how so? its not the chassis, its thin metal. its not structural at all.
dont fool yourself.


but i guess if u dont do track events and stuff, then meh. whatever.

[hellion240sx]

dousan, i'm surprised you didn't have the tire going inside your car? what are you running? awesome pic btw.

[Dousan_PG]

suspenion? stance GR+ 7kg rear
fenders are origin 30mm
work done by me and lindsay
mig welder
hammer
time
plasma cutter
propane torch
and rivits and drill
thats all u need

[Behind Horizon]

I'm going to cut my old rear fenders and going widebody in the next few days also. However it would be nice if someone could post some pictures of a S13 hatch where this job had been done properly. I'm especially looking after pictures of the cutting job, as i don't know how high i should cut. Thanks in advance.

[Bushido]

1 inch above the body line.

[Behind Horizon]

1 inch above the body line.

Sorry but i can't imagine where the "body line" is located.

Not my car but i think it is still too low ?

http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/hell27zd.jpg

[ThatGuy]

See the line running through the middle of the gas cap?

The "line" on the "body"?

Yeah, that one. That's the "body line".

:D :bow:

[Behind Horizon]

Alright as we all know what the body line is now i think that 1" above the body line is be a bit too high? I think if i'll cut up to that body line it should be enough space, or am i wrong ?

[OptionZero]

read the thread again

it is not too high

[Matej]

Alright as we all know what the body line is now i think that 1" above the body line is be a bit too high?
Don't worry, you can go way higher than that, you can pretty much cut off almost the entire panel as long as you leave enough to attach the overfender to. Less quarter panel = less metal to rust, haha.

[Dousan_PG]

dont ask if you wont take the advice

1" above
no less
more is ok

[Behind Horizon]

dont ask if you wont take the advice

1" above
no less
more is ok

Why i wouldn't take advice, i already cut my fender now and i think i cut 2" above. Thanks for the help guys.

[seiyess]

yeah~ cut it up as much as you want!!
it's all thin metal anyways.
i think it depends on what kind of looks and set up u want.
rough rugged battle look ----> rivets!
smooth clean look----> cover them with filler, bondo and all the good stuff.
and i would say cut the fender as much as you can. then you can go low as you want if you want it lower after. you are going to cover it with wider fenders anyways.

[Behind Horizon]

Thats how we did it, the fenders will be cleaned, primed and sprayed soon also, i think i wouln't cut any higher, maybe i would cut 1/2inch lower next time:


http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3727.JPG
http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3753.JPG
http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3757.JPG
http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3762.JPG
http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3765.JPG
http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3772.JPG
http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3774.JPG

[420sx]

that actually looks pretty clean. im guessing u tacked the skin and the cut off the rest.

did u seam weld just the rear wheel well or you got everything else too?

[Behind Horizon]

Yeah i seam welded the rear arches from the inside, i also drilled holes and then spot welded it where it is possible.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3521.JPG
http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3525.JPG
http://mitglied.lycos.de/rpshtach2/Projekt/IMG_3776.JPG

[240trainee]

Looks good, you'll actually have good clearence.

[hellion240sx]

behind horizon whats the purpose of drilling the holes?

[Gumballf355]

To drill a pilot hole and fill with weld to get more penetration on the weld. Better strength.

[LongGrain]

sorry to bring back an old thread, but the link with the write-up is dead, does anyone know of any other write up? ive been searching on here and on google and cant find a decent one. getting this done on saturday, i have the basic idea, but a write-up would be great.

[1ZlowZ]

Search noob! Just playing I could also use this write up. I've only seen write ups on fender flares no wide body.

[KansaiDrifter]

here's how mine are, but this is a full time track car, so I'm not worried about crap getting up and into the interior. I have made a few aluminum panels to block the tire smoke but it still builds up in there like crazy. Yeah it was great for weight reduction though. I used chargespeed 50mm blister overfenders and couldn't say enough for them, the fitment is spot on. Yeah thought this might help...
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h153/rh4motorsports/_2939.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h153/rh4motorsports/Vivid%20Drifter/_3084.jpg

[96Turbo]

^ holy sickness

1ZlowZ----Apple Valley huh?? I'm from a small town near chaska. You have a 240? or just a Z? PM me, we should meet up sometime in the winter (in AZ for school)

[gotta240]

Thats badass....

But tire smoke is bad....mmmmkaaaay. Get that shit outa the cabin.

[96Turbo]

true....

ur probably killing mad brain cells inhaling all that tire smoke lol

[LongGrain]

hey i have a friend from chaska.

bump for more replies though.

[ill_concepts]

Cut outter skin of fender off, then cut slits in inner skin, fold inners out and weld it up. The mock up fender and dril holes for rivets then rivet them on. and your done. It is really easy. I hope this makes sense.

[miggypq21]

Here's a post I book marked a few months ago.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/1512255-post28.html

Hope that helps man.

I wanna know what do you do when you are about to rivet the fender, do you just lay it on or do you put something in between the original fender and the over fender. Also, would any of you recommend painting the fender before install or afterwards?

EDIT: My bad those pictures don't work anymore. where made like 3 inches from the window haha.