Problems with Ichiba front hubs

[timlush]

I took the 4 lug hub off, put the Ichiba right on and when I tighten the axle nut, the new hub does not spin. Am I doing something wrong?

[Slidin240Wayz]

Did you follow the FSM?

[driftmayniak]

did you add the rotors before trying to move it ?

[DP_Michelle G]

^ That would not matter it would spin with or without the rotor.

Did you grease it before the install?

[kensreliableb18b]

make sure the slotted washer in the middle is sitting correctly before you try to bolt down the hub.

edit: if this isnt the problem, have you tried to spin the bearing freely in the hub before actaully attemping to install the unit onto the axle?

[timlush]

I greased it a little. The washer was in the right spot and Yes the bearing spun before installation. I've put the 4 lugger back on for now and it is still spinning fine. I'm confused. I did 5 lug on my S14 with brand new OEM hubs and had zero problems.

[CSXTacy]

yes i had the same problem when installing mine the nut does not have to be super tight pretty much snug and while tighening the nut spin the wheel assembly to set the bearings properly once the rotor stops while tightening the nut then back it of and just lightly snut the nut again this check to make sure the hub spins freely then cotter pin it this is what i did anyways good luck!!!

[timlush]

Here is a pic. Only things I can think of is 1) Do I have to remove the snap ring? or 2) these are S14 hubs...

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m129/xHeather35/Tim095.jpg

[projectRDM]

yes i had the same problem when installing mine the nut does not have to be super tight pretty much snug and while tighening the nut spin the wheel assembly to set the bearings properly once the rotor stops while tightening the nut then back it of and just lightly snut the nut again this check to make sure the hub spins freely then cotter pin it this is what i did anyways good luck!!!

English please.

[timlush]

yes i had the same problem when installing mine the nut does not have to be super tight pretty much snug and while tighening the nut spin the wheel assembly to set the bearings properly once the rotor stops while tightening the nut then back it of and just lightly snut the nut again this check to make sure the hub spins freely then cotter pin it this is what i did anyways good luck!!!

I have previously done 5 lug swap on an S14 using OEM hubs and tightened it all the way down. And when I just put the 4 lug hubs back on, I tightened it all the way down. I don't think leaving it loose is the solution.

[timlush]

Why the hell is that snap ring there? OEM doesn't have it and it appears that if I remove it, the hub would seat all the way.

[kensreliableb18b]

oh boy, the nut shoot be torqued down to spec, not "back it of and just lighly snut the nut" haha

u should have a snap ring. tho ive never dealt with ichiba hubs, i remember back in the day there was a problem with peak performance hubs where the wrong snap rings were used. this might be the problem. of course, why would you be the only person with this problem? go figure =T

[nassin31spr]

Those look an awful lot like s14 front hubs. Wont work on the s13. The s13 ones are rounded on the back side.

[kensreliableb18b]

as stated by the OP, these are ichiba hubs, they dont make s14 FRONT hubs

[FaLKoN240]

LEAVE THAT FUCKING SNAP RING IN, it holds the retainer for the bearing.

[timlush]

Well what could be the problem? You slide the hub on, install washer and tighten. I've done it before, but it's not working with these.

[timlush]

Well, I just read on Northwest Nissans that you have to replace the Ichiba retainer (left) with the OEM one off of the 4 lug hubs (right)

http://home.comcast.net/~mobileinstallation/IMG_0395.jpg

Gonna give it a try tomorrow and I'll update. Thanks for the help everyone!

[floodo1]

Well, I just read on Northwest Nissans that you have to replace the Ichiba retainer (left) with the OEM one off of the 4 lug hubs (right)

http://home.comcast.net/~mobileinstallation/IMG_0395.jpg

Gonna give it a try tomorrow and I'll update. Thanks for the help everyone!

From the looks of that pics its damn amazing that ichiba would sell them like that :(

Im willing to put good money that changing the snap ring will solve your problem, its ridiculous how much the tabs stick up on the ichiba one.

[azndoc]

Ichiba doesn't sell S14 front 5 lug conversions. And your suppose to leave the snap ring intact and not touch it. this is going into an s13 right? pm me directly if you have anymore questions.

[timlush]

PM'ed.................

[5t341tH]

im about 2 start my front 2morrow. i will let u know how mine turns out. im also using ichiba on s13. rears went on fine, just need rotors and wheels now :P

[5t341tH]

i am also havin the same problem as u. the washer does not seat fully like stock. it sits out a bit further. wen tightenin it down, the whole hub will not move. any ideas any1?

[BOROSUN]

did the swappin snap rings worked?

[5t341tH]

i just swapped the rings over and it seems it does work. the hub spins freely now, even wen the nut is tightened down

[timlush]

did the swappin snap rings worked?

Swapping the retainers fixed it. Works perfect now...

[Slidin240Wayz]

Wow, I would call Ichiba and/or the company who sold you the hubs; that's bullshit.

[5t341tH]

yep i finished my 5lug conversion. took me 24 hours to complete :) haha
fronts were a bit harder than usual cuz i had 2 swap the rings

[slideways2004]

damn, it looks like they don't test there products before they send them out

[usdm180sx]

WTF? I didn't change the snap rings on my ichiba hubs and they bolted on fine.

[5t341tH]

^^ did ur rings looked like the ones posted above?

[jobestudios]

Well Ichiba was discontinued for a while so maybe the new batch is faulty?

[DrtyRat]

I just got mine and opened them up and unfortunetaly they look like the ones in the pics...oh well at least i know that all I have to do is get some snap ring pliers and my prob will be solved.

[5t341tH]

^^ i didnt have snap ring pliers. so i ghetto did it. used some flathead screwdrivers and those worked fine :)

[usdm180sx]

^^ did ur rings looked like the ones posted above?

Yeah they looked the same. I didn't have to change anything. One thing, however. The ichibas have a bearing cover that slides off. I had to make sure that the bearing was on straight by wiggling it onto the spindle. I also took off the dust shields. Once I got it on straight it turned fine.

[xiaphin]

So I got the Ichiba front hubs for my S13 and tried installing them yesterday. From what I understand they are a direct replacement with no modding necessary. Well... cleaned up the spindle put them on tightened the nut and guess what, hard as hell to spin almost impossible really. Looked at the stackup of the Ichiba compared to OEM and noticed two things. One the difference in snap rings that this 3 YEAR OLD thread discusses (cant see the pics to see if mine prchased last week still has the snap ring in question), also the bearing seal wasnt seated enough, not allowing the hub to pull up all the way. Searched net on this problem found this thread (only thread annywhere). So i swapped the rings, tried putting it on and still no good. Found a 1-7/8 socket and pressed the seal below the bearing surface that makes contact with the spindle. And woila they went on like they should have out of the box. Heres pics of my encounter. If those who chimed in on this thread earlier could confirm the snap ring that would be great. In my mind I find it hard to believe a company would still be using incorrect parts after 3 YEARS!!!

OEM on left Ichiba on right
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z50/xiaphin/1990%20Fastback%20SR20%20Build/OEM_VS_ICHIBA_SNAP_RINGS.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z50/xiaphin/1990%20Fastback%20SR20%20Build/ICHIBA_SNAP_RING.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z50/xiaphin/1990%20Fastback%20SR20%20Build/OEM_SNAP_RING.jpg

OEM bearing seal clearance
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z50/xiaphin/1990%20Fastback%20SR20%20Build/OEM_BEARING_SEAL_CLEARANCE.jpg

No clearance with the Ichiba seal - like 1/64 - 1/32 too high
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z50/xiaphin/1990%20Fastback%20SR20%20Build/ICHIBA_SEAL.jpg

Socket used to press seal in further
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z50/xiaphin/1990%20Fastback%20SR20%20Build/1_7_8THS.jpg

After pressing
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z50/xiaphin/1990%20Fastback%20SR20%20Build/ICHIBA_CLEARANCE_AFTER.jpg

[revenn]

Did this ever get resolved? I just ordered mine and Im gonna be pissed if this is still a problem!

[iLagX]

I had the same problem with mine.
Can't seem to solve it.
First one with $40 takes it lol. Just one front hub.