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timlush · 04-13-2007, 03:48 PM

I took the 4 lug hub off, put the Ichiba right on and when I tighten the axle nut, the new hub does not spin. Am I doing something wrong?

Slidin240Wayz · 04-13-2007, 03:54 PM

Did you follow the FSM?

driftmayniak · 04-13-2007, 03:58 PM

did you add the rotors before trying to move it ?

DP_Michelle G · 04-13-2007, 04:08 PM

^ That would not matter it would spin with or without the rotor.

Did you grease it before the install?

kensreliableb18b · 04-13-2007, 04:13 PM

make sure the slotted washer in the middle is sitting correctly before you try to bolt down the hub.

edit: if this isnt the problem, have you tried to spin the bearing freely in the hub before actaully attemping to install the unit onto the axle?

timlush · 04-13-2007, 04:17 PM

I greased it a little. The washer was in the right spot and Yes the bearing spun before installation. I've put the 4 lugger back on for now and it is still spinning fine. I'm confused. I did 5 lug on my S14 with brand new OEM hubs and had zero problems.

CSXTacy · 04-13-2007, 04:36 PM

yes i had the same problem when installing mine the nut does not have to be super tight pretty much snug and while tighening the nut spin the wheel assembly to set the bearings properly once the rotor stops while tightening the nut then back it of and just lightly snut the nut again this check to make sure the hub spins freely then cotter pin it this is what i did anyways good luck!!!

timlush · 04-13-2007, 04:36 PM

Here is a pic. Only things I can think of is 1) Do I have to remove the snap ring? or 2) these are S14 hubs...

projectRDM · 04-13-2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSXTacy

yes i had the same problem when installing mine the nut does not have to be super tight pretty much snug and while tighening the nut spin the wheel assembly to set the bearings properly once the rotor stops while tightening the nut then back it of and just lightly snut the nut again this check to make sure the hub spins freely then cotter pin it this is what i did anyways good luck!!!

English please.

timlush · 04-13-2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSXTacy

yes i had the same problem when installing mine the nut does not have to be super tight pretty much snug and while tighening the nut spin the wheel assembly to set the bearings properly once the rotor stops while tightening the nut then back it of and just lightly snut the nut again this check to make sure the hub spins freely then cotter pin it this is what i did anyways good luck!!!

I have previously done 5 lug swap on an S14 using OEM hubs and tightened it all the way down. And when I just put the 4 lug hubs back on, I tightened it all the way down. I don't think leaving it loose is the solution.

timlush · 04-13-2007, 04:41 PM

Why the hell is that snap ring there? OEM doesn't have it and it appears that if I remove it, the hub would seat all the way.

kensreliableb18b · 04-13-2007, 04:43 PM

oh boy, the nut shoot be torqued down to spec, not "back it of and just lighly snut the nut" haha

u should have a snap ring. tho ive never dealt with ichiba hubs, i remember back in the day there was a problem with peak performance hubs where the wrong snap rings were used. this might be the problem. of course, why would you be the only person with this problem? go figure =T

nassin31spr · 04-13-2007, 04:48 PM

Those look an awful lot like s14 front hubs. Wont work on the s13. The s13 ones are rounded on the back side.

kensreliableb18b · 04-13-2007, 04:52 PM

as stated by the OP, these are ichiba hubs, they dont make s14 FRONT hubs

***FaLKoN240*** · 04-13-2007, 05:26 PM

LEAVE THAT FUCKING SNAP RING IN, it holds the retainer for the bearing.

timlush · 04-13-2007, 06:24 PM

Well what could be the problem? You slide the hub on, install washer and tighten. I've done it before, but it's not working with these.

timlush · 04-13-2007, 06:27 PM

Well, I just read on Northwest Nissans that you have to replace the Ichiba retainer (left) with the OEM one off of the 4 lug hubs (right)

Gonna give it a try tomorrow and I'll update. Thanks for the help everyone!

floodo1 · 04-13-2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlush

Well, I just read on Northwest Nissans that you have to replace the Ichiba retainer (left) with the OEM one off of the 4 lug hubs (right)

Gonna give it a try tomorrow and I'll update. Thanks for the help everyone!

From the looks of that pics its damn amazing that ichiba would sell them like that

Im willing to put good money that changing the snap ring will solve your problem, its ridiculous how much the tabs stick up on the ichiba one.

azndoc · 04-13-2007, 07:13 PM

Ichiba doesn't sell S14 front 5 lug conversions. And your suppose to leave the snap ring intact and not touch it. this is going into an s13 right? pm me directly if you have anymore questions.

timlush · 04-13-2007, 07:30 PM

PM'ed.................

5t341tH · 04-13-2007, 08:50 PM

im about 2 start my front 2morrow. i will let u know how mine turns out. im also using ichiba on s13. rears went on fine, just need rotors and wheels now :P

5t341tH · 04-14-2007, 12:11 PM

i am also havin the same problem as u. the washer does not seat fully like stock. it sits out a bit further. wen tightenin it down, the whole hub will not move. any ideas any1?

BOROSUN · 04-14-2007, 12:32 PM

did the swappin snap rings worked?

5t341tH · 04-14-2007, 12:54 PM

i just swapped the rings over and it seems it does work. the hub spins freely now, even wen the nut is tightened down

timlush · 04-14-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

did the swappin snap rings worked?

Swapping the retainers fixed it. Works perfect now...

Slidin240Wayz · 04-14-2007, 08:14 PM

Wow, I would call Ichiba and/or the company who sold you the hubs; that's bullshit.

5t341tH · 04-14-2007, 09:23 PM

yep i finished my 5lug conversion. took me 24 hours to complete

haha
fronts were a bit harder than usual cuz i had 2 swap the rings

slideways2004 · 04-15-2007, 12:54 AM

damn, it looks like they don't test there products before they send them out

usdm180sx · 04-15-2007, 02:30 AM

WTF? I didn't change the snap rings on my ichiba hubs and they bolted on fine.

5t341tH · 04-15-2007, 11:48 AM

^^ did ur rings looked like the ones posted above?

04-13-2007, 03:48 PM	#1
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 36 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Problems with Ichiba front hubs I took the 4 lug hub off, put the Ichiba right on and when I tighten the axle nut, the new hub does not spin. Am I doing something wrong?

04-13-2007, 03:54 PM	#2
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 36 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Did you follow the FSM? __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

04-13-2007, 03:58 PM	#3
driftmayniak Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: los Angeles Age: 38 Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	did you add the rotors before trying to move it ? __________________ SHFT_

04-13-2007, 05:26 PM	#15
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	LEAVE THAT FUCKING SNAP RING IN, it holds the retainer for the bearing. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

04-13-2007, 08:50 PM	#21
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 33 Posts: 2,776 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	im about 2 start my front 2morrow. i will let u know how mine turns out. im also using ichiba on s13. rears went on fine, just need rotors and wheels now :P __________________ lexus baby

04-13-2007, 04:08 PM	#4
DP_Michelle G Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Anaheim/OC Age: 38 Posts: 666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ That would not matter it would spin with or without the rotor. Did you grease it before the install?

04-13-2007, 04:13 PM	#5
kensreliableb18b Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: so cal - 626, 909, 562 and 949. 818 if i feel like running away Posts: 945 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	make sure the slotted washer in the middle is sitting correctly before you try to bolt down the hub. edit: if this isnt the problem, have you tried to spin the bearing freely in the hub before actaully attemping to install the unit onto the axle?

04-13-2007, 04:17 PM	#6
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 36 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I greased it a little. The washer was in the right spot and Yes the bearing spun before installation. I've put the 4 lugger back on for now and it is still spinning fine. I'm confused. I did 5 lug on my S14 with brand new OEM hubs and had zero problems.

04-13-2007, 04:36 PM	#7
CSXTacy Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cedar Rapids IA Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	yes i had the same problem when installing mine the nut does not have to be super tight pretty much snug and while tighening the nut spin the wheel assembly to set the bearings properly once the rotor stops while tightening the nut then back it of and just lightly snut the nut again this check to make sure the hub spins freely then cotter pin it this is what i did anyways good luck!!!

04-13-2007, 04:41 PM	#11
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 36 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Why the hell is that snap ring there? OEM doesn't have it and it appears that if I remove it, the hub would seat all the way.

04-13-2007, 04:43 PM	#12
kensreliableb18b Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: so cal - 626, 909, 562 and 949. 818 if i feel like running away Posts: 945 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	oh boy, the nut shoot be torqued down to spec, not "back it of and just lighly snut the nut" haha u should have a snap ring. tho ive never dealt with ichiba hubs, i remember back in the day there was a problem with peak performance hubs where the wrong snap rings were used. this might be the problem. of course, why would you be the only person with this problem? go figure =T

04-13-2007, 04:48 PM	#13
nassin31spr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: clay town NC Age: 41 Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Those look an awful lot like s14 front hubs. Wont work on the s13. The s13 ones are rounded on the back side.

04-13-2007, 04:52 PM	#14
kensreliableb18b Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: so cal - 626, 909, 562 and 949. 818 if i feel like running away Posts: 945 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	as stated by the OP, these are ichiba hubs, they dont make s14 FRONT hubs

04-13-2007, 06:24 PM	#16
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 36 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Well what could be the problem? You slide the hub on, install washer and tighten. I've done it before, but it's not working with these.

04-13-2007, 06:27 PM	#17
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 36 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Well, I just read on Northwest Nissans that you have to replace the Ichiba retainer (left) with the OEM one off of the 4 lug hubs (right) Gonna give it a try tomorrow and I'll update. Thanks for the help everyone!

04-13-2007, 07:13 PM	#19
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Ichiba doesn't sell S14 front 5 lug conversions. And your suppose to leave the snap ring intact and not touch it. this is going into an s13 right? pm me directly if you have anymore questions.

04-13-2007, 07:30 PM	#20
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 36 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	PM'ed.................

04-14-2007, 12:11 PM	#22
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 33 Posts: 2,776 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	i am also havin the same problem as u. the washer does not seat fully like stock. it sits out a bit further. wen tightenin it down, the whole hub will not move. any ideas any1? __________________ lexus baby

04-14-2007, 12:32 PM	#23
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	did the swappin snap rings worked?

04-14-2007, 12:54 PM	#24
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 33 Posts: 2,776 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	i just swapped the rings over and it seems it does work. the hub spins freely now, even wen the nut is tightened down __________________ lexus baby

04-14-2007, 08:14 PM	#26
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 36 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Wow, I would call Ichiba and/or the company who sold you the hubs; that's bullshit. __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

04-14-2007, 09:23 PM	#27
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 33 Posts: 2,776 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	yep i finished my 5lug conversion. took me 24 hours to complete haha fronts were a bit harder than usual cuz i had 2 swap the rings __________________ lexus baby

04-15-2007, 12:54 AM	#28
slideways2004 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Age: 35 Posts: 1,706 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	damn, it looks like they don't test there products before they send them out

04-15-2007, 02:30 AM	#29
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	WTF? I didn't change the snap rings on my ichiba hubs and they bolted on fine. __________________ -Norm!

04-15-2007, 11:48 AM	#30
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 33 Posts: 2,776 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	^^ did ur rings looked like the ones posted above? __________________ lexus baby

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