s14 race car

[MAGILLA]

My brother inlaw gets his suspension work done at a shop near atlanta, so I went with him one day to check there progress on his rx3. Low and behold in one of the bays was an s14 full out race car this thing was full tubular frame and fully custom on everything. I was amazed so I went to take pictures and sh^t I left my cell at home. So pissed at myself I left.

So today we went out to road atlanta because he had a few friends testing today for scca. then I saw the s14, and finally got some pictures. I also got to see it in action that is the fastest na 240 I have ever seen. It was keeping up with the panoz cars and built vettes like it was nothing. Here are the pix enjoy.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/a99skillz/IMAGE_00089.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/a99skillz/IMAGE_00090.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/a99skillz/IMAGE_00091.jpg

[svensko]

Any idea on specs and what not?

ALSO: REP +++++++ ^_^ VERY JDMIFIED CAR!

[MAGILLA]

nope the owner had to go to the driver's meeting so I didn't get to talk to him much. I can see if the guy at the shop knows the next time I go.

[svensko]

Could you tell if it was a KA24?

[TheTimanator]

I also got to see it in action that is the fastest na 240 I have ever seen. It was keeping up with the panoz cars and built vettes like it was nothing.
so what engine was it powered by?
lol...it's 4 lug!

EDIT: what? "VERY JDMIFIED CAR!" hahaha. The car is red white and blue...

[svensko]

J-J-J-JDM OVERLOAD!!!:rl:

[wootwoot]

your stupid face is JDM.

I'll bet money its a single cam

[KidSaru]

If it's the same one Tony Davis did the decal work on in Lawrenceville it's a 340hp SOHC KA, 1690 dry weight.

[MAGILLA]

yep its a ka24 and that is the only some what stock thing on the car the body is fiber glass the frame was redone. the suspension is a coilover setup with external reservior, all braided lines and more stuff I can't remember. this is all from memory of the first time I saw it so it might be a bit off.

[svensko]

If it's the same one Tony Davis did the decal work on in Lawrenceville it's a 340hp SOHC KA, 1690 dry weight.

340 HP from a NA KA? How?! I'm guessing JDM head work?

[KidSaru]

yep its a ka24de and that is the only some what stock thing on the car the body is fiber glass the frame was redone. the suspension is a coilover setup with external reservior, all braided lines and more stuff I can't remember. this is all from memory of the first time I saw it so it might be a bit off.
Sure it's a DOHC? I seriously doubt they switched to DOHC, they talked about using Rebello L20s for '07 though.

As for making 340hp...A lot of patience, time, and most importantly...money.

[svensko]

yo dawg can we get a modz list?

[arkive43]

[email protected] jdm head work on a usdm motor.....

cool car.

[KidSaru]

Not the same S14, but it races the same SCCA class:

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1166767760/1166767760pg.jpg
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1166767760/1166767760ph.jpg
http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1166767760/1166767760pj.jpg

Engine
Engine Builder: Dave Auerbach
Manufacturer: Nissan
Type: KA24
Displacement: 2.4 liter
Induction: Twin Mikuni 44 side draft
Heads: Nissan 12 valve
Block: Nissan
Main Caps: Nissan Comp
Crankshaft: Nissan Comp
Connecting Rods: Carillo
Pistons: J&E
Camshaft: Rebello
Valves: Nissan Comp
Valve Train: Nissan Comp
Clutch: Tilton 2 disk 5 1/2
Pressure Plate: Tilton 5 1/2
Flywheel: Tilton 5 1/2
Exhaust: 4-2-1
Total Time: 1.2 hrs
Races: 1
Fuel System
Fuel Cell
Manufacturer: Custom Fuelsafe
Age: 3 years
Capacity: 10gal
Fuel Pump: 2 in cell and 2 pressure
Fuel Type: 112 oct
Oil/Water System
Radiator: Nissan
Water Rad Location: Front nose
Water Pump: Nissan
Oil Cooler: Earl's
Oil Cooler Location: Front nose
Electrical System
Ignition: Electromotive
Alternator: none
Battery: Optima Yellow
Data Logger: Seat of the pants!
Computer: none
Transmission
Manfacturer: Saenz
Type: TC840
Gears: 5 speed
Shifter: Manual
Trans Cooler: Yes
Races: 1.2 hrs

[ThatGuy]

svensko, please stop being useless wth all the "JDM" bullshit. It's annoying. This is your warning.

[svensko]

And that get 340 HP? That doesn't have a single JDM PART!!!?~

[KidSaru]

And that get 340 HP? That doesn't have a single JDM PART!!!?~

And now I hope you are banned.

[MAGILLA]

Sure it's a DOHC? I seriously doubt they switched to DOHC, they talked about using Rebello L20s for '07 though.

As for making 340hp...A lot of patience, time, and most importantly...money.

Honestly I don't remember but I think that the engine in their class can be modified but it has to be what came with the car.

[s14dude]

ROFL @ the "JDM" boys.



wow thats a fucking sick ass s14.....now i want my s14 back!


cant believe its a single cam.....so sick!

[Atljunglist]

what shop was this car at??

[svensko]

In all seriousness, why the single cam over the DOHC? weight issues? More potential?

[seekanddestroy]

Honestly I don't remember but I think that the engine in their class can be modified but it has to be what came with the car.


Good work on that one, considering an s14 never came with a ka24e.

There are quite a few gt3 240sx race cars.

[chibo]

In all seriousness, why the single cam over the DOHC? weight issues? More potential?
Classing, more than likely.

[rsxrcr87]

[QUOTE=KidSaru]Not the same S14, but it races the same SCCA class:

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1166767760/1166767760pg.jpg

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[seekanddestroy]

Classing, more than likely.


There is not a restriction in G.T. as to using a single cam vs a dual cam, you are allowed to update, or backdate components on the car.

The single cam may well make more power RELIABLY than the dual cam.

[jobestudios]

I dont think they care about reliabilty, these motors are based on how many hours they run.

IIRC, last time this car was talked about here someone said the SOHC head had alot more room to fit bigger valves in there.

[seekanddestroy]

I dont think they care about reliabilty, these motors are based on how many hours they run.


:hahano:
Yes, they do rebuild them frequently, but reliability is still important for the life of the motor.

If you don't think reliability of the motor is important in a $50,000+ race car, stop talking.

[wootwoot]

oh my fucking lord. Does that thing honestly have a stock radiator in it?!

dang car 100% looks like it needs to be driving in the Nextel Cup

[mayco_86]

Nice car. But all that for 340 hp.

[wootwoot]

^^^ that car is faster then anything you have ever ridden in or driven more then likely unless you secretly drive formula cars.

[MAGILLA]

there was also a nice s13 coupe in one of the lower classes as well. I think in the same class as the miatas. I only saw him once and not long enough to take a picture with my slow a$$ phone cam, and I sure as heck was not going to walk around in the sun looking for him.

[fromxtor]

These are the second SOHC S14s I've seen^^. Heres the other:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/Progress/EngineBuild8002.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/Progress/EngineBuild8004.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/Progress/EngineBuild8008.jpg
http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8618&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[ripnbst]

^ That is clean as FAWK!

[wootwoot]

SOHC = more tq! But those arent as cool cause they aint race cars.

[KidSaru]

Nice car. But all that for 340 hp.

And you've been in how many 340hp NA 4 cylinder cars?

[svensko]

I'm guessing the 340HP one runs on C16 or something similar?

[wootwoot]

it says 112 in the spec sheet which would be leaded gas

[Matej]

There's more aftermarket parts for the single cam KA, it's easier to make it go fast. And they had stay 4-lug because of regulations, I think. They have to stay as close to stock as possible, except they're nowhere near to stock. It's those dumb SCCA rules, they're getting closer and closer to Nascar all the time.
:)

[projectRDM]

There's been a ton of GT3 S14s through the years, I saw my first one at Road Atlanta over ten years ago, same basic setup as the one in this thread. They're competitive but don't have a lot of wins combined between them. SCC did an article in 1998 on a GT3 car vs. an ITA car and a stock S14 and had a full writeup detailing the chassis work. Sunbelt in Sugar Hill has one randomly that's owned by a local team that they work on. There was even one on Ebay not long ago with a shitload of spare parts.

[chibo]

Nice car. But all that for 340 hp.
That thing comes out to about 5lb per hp, it'd take a 500whp 2500lb S13 to match that power to weight ratio... then it'd have turbo lag.
That thing is a beast.

[Phlip]

And that get 340 HP? That doesn't have a single JDM PART!!!?~
Yeah, you were warned, I'll give you 2 months off for being a dick now.

[20 til 3]

the soch engines are used in almost every nissan scca/racing car, there was a 350hp sohc pickup for sale a while back

but why does everyone say that dohc is better...oem to oem, it gets an amazing 15hp more and the sohc would be alot more reliable than a fully built dohc because there is less bs to break on it lol, and yes they go by hours left on the engine, the last one on ebay had like 7 hours left on the engine >>>>------7 strait hours of drifting that is

['90RPS13]

Badass car. Single Slammers can hold up to a DOHC. I just prefer to work on a DOHC and drive a DOHC then a Single Slammer. Personal Preference.

[The Riot Hero]

reasoning for the SOHC is the stock horsepower ratings, the more horsepower the motor has from the factory the more you are penalized in weight. if they ran a DOHC which is rated like 17 horsepower or whatever more than the SOHC theyd have to have a payload according that or whatever. if you ever watch a GT3 race with those things they freakin haul ass out of corners, their torque is way more than anything else out there, youll see a dude in a 240 literally bump into a car infront of him because it cant get out of its way coming out of a low speed corner and literally push them. torque ftw. last GT3 i watched it was S13s in a 1-2-3 finish.

[sideview_180sx]

those cars are full tube frame chassis. they use quick change rear ends, and gearboxes. the sohc motor whether built by rebello or any other maker consists of standard parts available from nissan. from the rockers, crank,carb setup and so forth. there is a reason you can see a gt3 class crx and other cars compete on the same level. they are hardly still nissan based. also I was able to look at another gt3 class s14 over here in socal. and that guy ran stock radiator as well. apparently the front ducting and what not is substantial enough to not be necessary. altho i was noth sure if that was the real reason or if it were a class restriction or something.

OFF TOPIC. i have pics of a gt3 class z32 using a carb'd L28. If anything dohc seems better stock vs. stock. but do you notice the lack there of racing parts produced by nissan.

[Atljunglist]

what shop in the ATL works on cars like this??? Is it Gwinnett Place Nissan's car or are thy just the sponsor?? I figured i would have seen it before.

[chmercer]

lol that green one has a plastic tank 1 inch radiator??

[seekanddestroy]

lol that green one has a plastic tank 1 inch radiator??


lol you drift?

:gives: about that radiator, obviously it works.

[young gun]

single cams were offered with carb setups is what i always heard as the reason.

[20 til 3]

why would the radiator need to be upgraded...look at how they have things set up, i bet it rarely has the fans on

[infinitexsound]

tube frame chassis weighing 2180 pounds roughly.... making 340 hp.. i think its pretty good... one of the reason why it could keep up with some of those high hp cars is probably tires... running on slicks make so much a different to street performance radials....

can u imagine making over 300 hp thru a 33mm hole.. or a smaller size choke.. because of restrictions...

race cars are made to look simplistic with ingenuity.. thats the reason why they look so damn good...

alot of people dont understand the concepts of making power being restricted and following the rules in their class for racing...

ive seen that lime green 240 run.. its fast but not that fast.... gt3 is by far one of the larger gt classes in scca club racing... im not a big fan of ita or itx ... but i like the f and e production cars...

[ms!3]

340 n/a horses is sex. i dont car how much money it takes to get there. high compression owns all.

[projectRDM]

what shop in the ATL works on cars like this??? Is it Gwinnett Place Nissan's car or are thy just the sponsor?? I figured i would have seen it before.

Sunbelt like I mentioned, there's also a shop in downtown Norcross that does a lot of race builds, they have Steve Millen's 300ZX race car parked in the back of the shop. I creamed myself when I saw that bitch.

[MAGILLA]

what shop in the ATL works on cars like this??? Is it Gwinnett Place Nissan's car or are thy just the sponsor?? I figured i would have seen it before.

i think the shop is trivit racing they also had a bad a$$ sentra there too.