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naed240sx

11-11-2006, 12:01 AM

Eat a dick dean.

thats easy, rims not for poor people have bead seats. its not a problem

-mcrussellpants.

Thanks for the neg rep.

Even people on ziptied are scared of 235/40 on an 11j. Show me a picture of this, because I have never heard of anybody running that. It's fucking pointless anyways, beadseats or not. Sure, mild stretch is good for response, a big stretch helps fit hard to fit wheel sizes, but 235 on 11 is just fucking stupid.

I'm aware that it would probably fit, but it would take a shitload of work to get them on, and whether or not they would stay on would be a gamble. I wouldn't DD that shit.

For the record, here is 265/35/18 on 18x12 (Matt's car). He says it takes TWO beadrings to mount these. So no, it's not EASY.

Edit: Cool more negative rep. 235/40 on an 11 is retarded for a daily driven car and you all know it. Keep it coming.

http://mattmartindrift.com/albums/virus/virus%20(12).jpg

chmercer

11-11-2006, 12:07 AM

thoes sizes sound really hard to mount unless you get some goofy ass wide tires like wanlis or somthing. i couldnt get 2 different pairs of 265/35 to mount on my 12s. i would run like 255/35 and 285/30 on thoes wheel sizes. theyre 18s right

slideways2004

11-11-2006, 06:18 AM

cooper zeon is one of the hardest tires to stretch. they have a stiffer sidewall than most. a lot of times a cheetah is needed to stretch coopers.

Devilsolsi

11-11-2006, 07:36 AM

Pardon my ignorance on this topic..

But what is the point of stretching the tires? I would think you would want a wider tire, more contact patch=more grip. I guess this could be different for drifting.

chmercer

11-11-2006, 01:07 PM

cause hipari is the shit son,

search if you want a real answer

amplifi3d

11-11-2006, 01:16 PM

run them shit stretched son. those sizes will be fine.

Silverbullet

11-11-2006, 01:59 PM

i wouldn't trust daily cars on more than 1-2 sizes smaller. You really dont need it. People run stretched tires for stiffness and sensative road feel. You only need these for race cars, not street cars. It dosn't even look attractive IMO.

ixfxi

11-11-2006, 02:08 PM

stretching tires is for fags. real men rock wide tires w/ the stickiest compound they can find.

Ricks15

11-11-2006, 05:04 PM

stretching tires is for fags. real men rock wide tires w/ the stickiest compound they can find.

No there not:down: . People do that so they can tuck big and low offset wheels nicely under the fenders.

backroadtouge

11-11-2006, 09:55 PM

if your cars low enough to need them, then dooo itttt. basically, dont have rim sticking way all out from the tire, it looks kinda outta place and gets rashed.

chmercer

11-11-2006, 11:16 PM

i guess you would get curb rash if you have no idea how to drive and grind your wheels on curbs and shit

Quangs203

11-12-2006, 12:25 AM

what kind of tires do you guys recommend stretching ? i've gotta get some tires for my WORK MEISTER S1 3pc.18x9+10 and 18x10+5 So i was thinking about the Bridgestone Potenza RE0960 225/40/18 for my front and 245/40/18 for the rear. But i do think 245 on a 10 might be a lil too conservative? either Bridgestones or FALKEN azenis st615 i'd run 235/40/18 in the rear.. what do you guys think ? any inputs ?

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n116/s14quangsta/IMG_0076.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n116/s14quangsta/07-18-06_1506.jpg

EndLeSS8

11-12-2006, 12:33 AM

i guess you would get curb rash if you have no idea how to drive and grind your wheels on curbs and shit

Unfortunately not all of us have MOMMY and DADDY to pay for everything we buy.

pileofherpes

11-12-2006, 12:57 AM

Unfortunately not all of us have MOMMY and DADDY to pay for everything we buy.
you're adopted. your parents don't love you.

fliprayzin240sx

11-12-2006, 02:21 AM

you're adopted. your parents don't love you.

haha...thats funny but anyways. Personally a good rule of thumb for a stretch is 20mm less than the width of the rim. So for a rim thats 10" wide, convert it to mm and you get roughly 255mm. Smallest id go is 235, 10mm stretch on each side of the rim. Then it also depends on the rim itself, some companies measure their rims differently and ultimately the size of the rim itself since that will dictate how much side wall you have (bigger rims have less sidewally naturally)

chmercer

11-12-2006, 02:39 AM

Unfortunately not all of us have MOMMY and DADDY to pay for everything we buy.

haha i wish.

learn how to not crunch your fucking wheels into curbs, retard. thats like saying dont get frp bumpers cause you like to ram them over parking blocks.

McRussellPants

11-12-2006, 03:06 AM

Unfortunately not all of us have MOMMY and DADDY to pay for everything we buy.

SORRY MY MOMMY AND DADDY DON'T BUY ME ALL THE CURBS I WANT!

if you curb your rims you're a tool, stretched or not.

Devilsolsi

11-12-2006, 07:51 AM

if you curb your rims you're a tool, stretched or not.

Things happen when you daily drive you car..especially in downtown Baltimore

chmercer

11-12-2006, 12:26 PM

lol

fucking christ. curbing your wheels is as lame as crashing your car into things.

dont hit your car on stuff

seiyess

11-14-2006, 02:17 AM

thanks for all the replies..
i think i will just stay with what i have right now..
245/40 on 11 and 275/35 on 12.
rear clears easy but front, i thought i could just go narrower and go low but i guess i'll just clean up inside the well a little more... can't be lazy..

chmercer

11-14-2006, 02:49 AM

you could try for 245/35 up front

hotrodv

11-14-2006, 05:03 AM

Things happen when you daily drive you car..especially in downtown Baltimore
Ahaha.. curb a rims is fuckin retarded..also in italy, never understood how people can do it..you only have do be normal for don't do it..nothing special..
damn! are u a girl?!?

Dousan_PG

11-14-2006, 11:21 AM

bwahahah
curbing your wheels

here's a tip
LEARN TO FUCKING DRIVE

i havent curbed a wheel in SOOOO many year
only a fuck head who cant park curbs wheels
learn to drive you idiot.

i used to have to parallel park A LOT. after a bit u get the hang and park it perfect without touching the curb.
its all about ability to drive

as far as stretched tires, if u dont understand yet, go search

as far as the mommy and daddy comment
if u knew how much those guys waste their paychecks on cars maybe you'd have a rad looking car too
mom and dad. this isnt a VIPER forum, we drive fucking 240sx
the shit car of the year. give me a break. car is from 1995. oh daddy buy me a 11 year old car! my mcdonalds job cant pull it off!

Brian

11-14-2006, 11:25 AM

The ONLY time I ever curbed a wheel was in a Jack in the Box drive through that is the most skinny drivethrough I have ever been in. It has a 90 degree turn in it aith curbs on both sides.

I rule at driving.

Massimo rules too. See, He knows how to roll in Italy.

inertiaticism

11-14-2006, 11:53 AM

damn! are u a girl?!?
hahahaha

I guess my mom and dad bought me a pair of fucking eyes for christmas, cause that's all someone really needs to keep from curbing wheels.

Maybe this cat needs some curb feelers.
http://www.cruiserbits.com/Graphics/Products/Large/003-170_1.jpg

axiomatik

11-14-2006, 11:56 AM

....
as far as the mommy and daddy comment
if u knew how much those guys waste their paychecks on cars maybe you'd have a rad looking car too
mom and dad. this isnt a VIPER forum, we drive fucking 240sx
the shit car of the year. give me a break. car is from 1995. oh daddy buy me a 11 year old car! my mcdonalds job cant pull it off!

lol, when people still live with their parents, everything they own is subsidized by mommy and daddy. Hell, I could be saving $1300 a month on my mortgage alone, maybe it's time to give my mom a call. :rolleyes:

EndLeSS8

11-14-2006, 12:41 PM

^for reals.

"mommy mommy, i need a new set of wheels to show off on an online forum!"

Powered by mommy and daddy = lose

LB.Motoring

11-14-2006, 12:51 PM

pulled from his family album

http://www.glamajama.com/ProductImages/baby/spoiled.jpg

Poorboy

11-14-2006, 01:13 PM

LB.Motoring

11-14-2006, 01:24 PM

^ this forum mostly is about drifting. Little contact on the road in the rear is great. lets the rear kick out way faster with more responce and tire spin... If you see there are a couple of AutoX'ers here also. and you will see them running side flush tires... 265's on a 9j rim....

less contact. more slide.
more contact more grip

more slide. more drift.
more grip. more grip

orrentation ftw.

/done.

Brian

11-14-2006, 01:24 PM

I do it all for looks.

Or

I do it to stiffen up the "sidewall"
feels better. burns up better.

yum

hotrodv

11-14-2006, 01:37 PM

Ian

11-14-2006, 02:23 PM

Haha...I clipped a curb recently while parallel parking...but it was a giant chunk of cement hanging off of the curb like 4" out...

So it wasn't really my fault...

Aside from that, I hadn't curbed a rim since my first try parallel parking when I was 15.

Devilsolsi

11-14-2006, 02:41 PM

Ok I guess I am the only one who has ever curbed their wheels. I have actually never done it while parking, but downtown Baltimore has some fucked up streets.

Here is a serious questions to you guys with such little sidewall..Do you ever have to deal with bending rims? On my old wheels even a 40 series sidewall was no match for Bmore potholes. Then again, maybe I am also the only one tha thas to contend with potholes on a daily basis as well.

McRussellPants

11-14-2006, 02:55 PM

^for reals.

"mommy mommy, i need a new set of wheels to show off on an online forum!"

Powered by mommy and daddy = lose

Yeah... If it worked like that do you really think I'd be driving a 240SX? Z06 would be in my driveway and I'd be here laughing at tools that think that 265s make their pile S13 A RACECARZAZAZAZ.

Little contact on the road in the rear is great

Yeah, maybe if your doing donuts in your work's parking lot and pretending its street drifting.

Rear Grip > *

chmercer

11-14-2006, 02:56 PM

so heres a question for you stretched tire guys, because i've always wondered this.

if running wider wheels is supposed to be some sign of your performance capabilities, or supposed to show off something about your car, which for most of us, it is; then why in gods name would you put a skinnier tire with less contact to the road on it?

to me it makes very little sense to run a 11 inch wide wheel but run a tire size that you could fit on a 8 or 9 inch wide wheel. sure you look jdm tyte, but you're not making any more contact with the road....so does that make you a ricer/poser?

｢ESSAY POST｣

heres why people stretch tires
http://myspace-857.vo.llnwd.net/00996/75/83/996863857_l.jpg

but seriously, stretching tires is the only way to get good wheel fitment, and it reduces the aspect ratio of the tire, lowers your car for free basically, removes all sidewall flex. a stretched tire is 500x better than a tire too wide for the wheel. have you ever seen like an f body rolling around with stock wheels and like 315 goodyear eagle f1s and its like pulling tread up off the road on the inside and outside cause the tire is like 6 inches wider than the wheel. yeah. thats not a recipe for good handling.

whoever says the sidewall flex is invalid on a car with expensive tires is a fucking idiot. even slicks flex. hell slicks flex more than lo pro azenis, i mean they have cloth sidewalls. steel > cloth. anyone who is racing in a series that mandates a specific tire size is always going to bias towards the wider reccomended wheel size if allowed.

narrower tires have the same contact patch as wider tires under static load. wider tires have different contact patch deformation characteristics under cornering loads however.

regardless, i have 275s on a 12. the fact that the tire is stretched dosent turn it into a dry rotted 195/60. theres probably like 10 people on this board with wider tires than that. i want to stretched 355s onto 19x15s and have somone call me a poser for running stretched tires.

no never bent wheels, and ive hit my share of potholes, work wheels are strong! lightweight wheels may save you 10 pounds unsprung but shit like ssr type c folds in half if you sneeze on it

hitman

11-14-2006, 03:33 PM

i curbed my front wheel trying to not drive over a speed bump it was tight. but my rims cost 100$ each so i dont really care.

i would say if you can get the bead to seat (reverse mount wheel helps alot, 225 40 18 on a 10 i mounted up no cheetah easily) then who cares. it takes alot to take the bead off a tire, esp when its inflated. if you can mount it/get it mounted then do it.

LB.Motoring

11-14-2006, 03:42 PM

we all know that kid gets the rash on his tires from dirt dropping it, gosh those ledged banks.... :keke:

damn thats a sickass s13 up there viceroy

tandom partner :keke: i like the mikunis paired right to turbos hahaha

http://www.back2themax.com/gallery/carsstunts/B2TMFlyingHigh.JPG

ixfxi

11-14-2006, 03:43 PM

enough of all the fuckin sobbing attitudes... i seriously cant take how fuckin faggy people have gotten on this forum. what works for one person, doesnt work for all.

for years, i have been running 16x8's on my stock body s13. Years ago I ran 225/50 but then went with 245/45 all around, running bridgestone tires.. RE750, S03, whatever I could afford at the time. For the past 3-4 years I've been running 245/45 S03's.. its a fantastic street tire.

I will continue to run a 16x8 -15 demon camber until next year. The current tire I just ordered is a 225/50 RE01R.. its a new tire that competes with the Advan Neova AD07. Pretty much top of the line street tire. I chose this over the 245/45 S03 (which i have in storage at the moment) because softer compound should outperform the wider S03.

In the meantime, I have 1 year to search for my new wheels, a 17x10.. something around there. I'll be running 275's front and rear, but i am still waiting for Bridgestone to expand their tire sizes for the RE01R.. so its not a necessity as of yet.

I canyon drive my cars out here in LA. We have potholes, loose gravel, rocks and boulders.. all types of shit end up in the canyons. So, I dont care to have the car excessively low nor do I care to run 18 or 19 inch wheels.. it just doesnt make sense.

There are streets that I've been on where I have launched the car and gotten air, shit.. actually I think kevin was even witness to that once.. haha

Point is, if you drive in places with nice open flat roads and go sliding your car around in parking lots calling yourself a "drifter" because its trendy and cool, thats fine.. do your thing. There are so many states out here in the US that dont have any fuckin canyons.. its sad.

Its a simple concept: build up your car for yourself and your terrain.

ixfxi

11-14-2006, 03:51 PM

the other thing i was gonna add.. is you have to look at the entire picture of your car's setup. a car needs to have some compliance somewhere. if its not in your shocks, then its in your bushings. if its not in your bushings, then its in your tires. if its not in your tires, then dont expect your teeth or your chassis to last long. people run solid bushings, on street cars? i dont get why. add that with stretched tires... excessively stiff shocks.. i mean its a complete fucked recipe. if you dont care about your car or traction, then go for it.. in the meantime, theres folks like me who enjoy passing people in turns because their shit suspension designs have no compliance.

Some tires come with rim protectors (a offset flange) that protects the wheel. I personally like that feature, but i dont think its a necessity.. nor does it make up for shitty driving skills. I see it all the time, a girl in a car with air conditioning on, radio blaring, power steering equipped.. and shes trying to park her car... in the meantime, you hear the rim just mashing away at the curb. NICE. Thats called lack of driving skill.

While I havent ever curb rashed any of my wheels. I have occasionally rub'ed a tire. I mean, without power steering its hard to make these types of idiot maneuvers.. especially if you use your mirrors. but regardless, its a nice thing to have.

LB.Motoring

11-14-2006, 03:55 PM

^ damn 16x8, your a mad man, running those crazy sizes! you dont get inner fender rub at full lock? :keke:

oh, and ive seen clean canyons, and dirty canyons, and many smashed low cars still run them... i remmber running one time where the front aero was .5mm thick when i was done...

its just life....

ixfxi

11-14-2006, 04:07 PM

^ damn 16x8, your a mad man, running those crazy sizes! you dont get inner fender rub at full lock? :keke:

oh shit! you're hardcore. after 10 years of building up cars, i should wimper and be embarassed because 16x8 isnt wide enough to impress some asshat that i dont know nor do i care about.

if i wanted to, i could have ran some 17x9 R33 wheels.. or some 19x10.5 TE37's.. but i didnt, because i dont. and thats why all those wheels are sold.

seriously, you guys think a car is supposed to impress others just by making shit more outrageous than the next person. its like "oh damn, if hes running 17x10 i'm gonna run 17x15!"

everyone nowadays fixes up their shit to impress people. this is why we have s13's running around with busted up fiberglass fenders that dont fit right. its generally accepted that fenders and bumpers just arent supposed to fit anymore, right?

wake up homo-rockio... theres more to life than running bullshit extreme setups to impress your male friends with.

chmercer

11-14-2006, 04:26 PM

17x15 sucks. 19x15 though... yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5019/donkky9.jpg

awwwwww. AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

EndLeSS8

11-14-2006, 04:38 PM

Yeah... If it worked like that do you really think I'd be driving a 240SX? Z06 would be in my driveway and I'd be here laughing at tools that think that 265s make their pile S13 A RACECARZAZAZAZ.

I'm laughing at the rest of your team members who are "hardcore drifters yo!", trying to impress people over the internet, and still live at home and are Powered by Mom.

chmercer

11-14-2006, 05:14 PM

i wish i was a trust fund kid

*dreams about being 15 with a learners liscense and wrecking a new 911 with widebodoy drag cs every week*

my mommy and daddy pay for the part of my college that isnt covered with scholarship and student loans

also they bought me some clothes for christmas

and when i come home on the weekends they buy me food

yay mommy and daddy racing club

tknbkthrsdy4anfg

11-14-2006, 09:30 PM

I'm ready to get flamed on but would a cooper 235 40 17 on a 9 inch wheel look stretched?

mr_240sx

11-14-2006, 10:09 PM

225 40 17 is barely stretched....try a 205 oh hell even a 195 if you want the jdm tyte look!

chmercer

11-14-2006, 10:42 PM

why do you care if it looks stretched or not, if thats the wheel tire combo you want, run it

ugh

but to answer your question, no not really

tknbkthrsdy4anfg

11-15-2006, 12:07 AM

I dont really, just checking because the roads up here are super bumpy and im definetly not cool enough to rock stretched tires

seiyess

11-15-2006, 01:26 AM

I dont really, just checking because the roads up here are super bumpy and im definetly not cool enough to rock stretched tires

look through here.. you might find your answer..
http://www.zilvia.net/f//showthread.php?t=44300

EndLeSS8

11-15-2006, 08:26 AM

bwahahahah, I totally struck a nerve with Team Viceroy when I said that they're Powered by Mom and Dad.

Japanese teams are sponsored by tuning companies, but they're so hardcore that they're sponsored by their parents. That's mad tyte yo!

And maybe if you're a good boy, and do good at school, mommy and daddy won't just give you clothes for Christmas, but also a set of 19 x 15s!

Ian

11-15-2006, 08:53 AM

How can you possibly assume that? You don't know these guys. I know for a fact that at least the ones I know work for their own money and spend it accordingly.

I'm tired of hearing this bullshit, people trying to rip on the Viceroy guys out of pure jealousy. Stop being a hater, if you can come up with a decently original diss, then go for it, but stop trying to make something out of nothing dude.

Dousan_PG

11-15-2006, 10:16 AM

^^^exactly.
you got schooled endless
go back to your pos ugly car and stop being jealous and hating on other people's car.

ixfxi

11-15-2006, 10:33 AM

allow me to rephrase a few comments on this thread...

endless> bwahahahah, I totally struck a nerve with Team Viceroy when I posted my 223rd post on this forum. god i feel SO cool -- like ive been "jumped-in" to zilvia, im a straight-up G now!

mainevent> How can you possibly assume that? You don't know these guys. I know for a fact that at least the ones I know work for their own money and spend it accordingly, on fine pasttimes like hookers and beer. i love viceroy! not to mention, chmercer's mom cooks up some mean turkey roast!

aaron> go back to your pos ugly car and stop being jealous and hating on other people's pos ugly cars.

...

there, thats a lot better. all the posts are starting to make more sense now. :-)

EndLeSS8

11-15-2006, 10:44 AM

:gives: Yes, I got schooled by people who I will never meet in real life, while you guys continue to give each other internet blowjobs for praise.

Dousan_PG

11-15-2006, 10:50 AM

apparently, you do, because you dont stfu.

ixfxi

11-15-2006, 11:55 AM

http://www.chrisdiclerico.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/blackbush.jpg

you need to .... shut.. the.. fuck... up! hahah

mars bitches.

chmercer

11-15-2006, 01:31 PM

good lord stop talking about viceroy, my fucking ego barley fits in the room as it is

gorgasm

11-15-2006, 02:48 PM

i wish i was powered by mom. the only thing she powers is her fist to my face when i get oil on her driveway.

my contribution-
get wider tires

Ian

11-15-2006, 11:17 PM

Props to Endless for neutral-repping me and trying to diss on me saying i'm a Viceroy biter.

Don't hate me. Hate yourself. Just be content with the fact that you'll never get it.

sideview_180sx

11-16-2006, 02:46 AM

i wish i was powered by mom. the only thing she powers is her fist to my face when i get oil on her driveway.

my contribution-
get wider tires

Dood you get the driveway, fucking awesome sauce. I had to grade and pave the side of the house to park my car at a house I live at. But hey when you have 20K in med bills living at home is what you need to do. Fucking everyone is different and has there situations, Viceroy is there own thing. PG is something else. Crawl in your fucking hole and stay there, fucking smegel and shit.

BTW dood 235/245 up front on the 10 is fine unless you want to go the VIP method 256/35 front with 295/30 out back

yokotas13

11-16-2006, 04:45 AM

viceroy guys arent that bad. They are just up front lolololz

bottom line of hte thread, just do it. If you wanna run streached, do it. if not dont. If you think its too much, try the shit. If it unseats, have a spare.

As for curbing your wheels. If your worried about it, spend less. I whack the fuck outta my wheels and dont care int he mountains. But my wheels are dirt cheap too.

RedSVTFlareside

11-21-2006, 02:40 AM

man... the OP wants to run 235's on a 11" wheel? and 265's on a 12" wheel? That seems a little small. Flame me if you want, you won't hurt my feelings, but I don't really understand why some people want to put improperly fitting tires on their car. Is it so they can have a big shiney lip? Thats what I'm assuming. Sure a wide wheel looks cool but with a ridiculously undersized tire just looks stupid(opinion.) And I'm sorry, you're not going to convince me that a 195/50-17 on a 9" wide wheel is going to have more grip than a car that has 245/40-17 on the same 9" wide wheel.

2nd. I dunno how your fitting 11's in the front of the car. That is really wide. I wouldn't go any smaller than 275 on a 11" wide wheel. and 295 on a 12" wide wheel. It'll still be stretched, but not crazy. Personally, If I had 12" wide wheels, I'd have 315's.

[zips up fad resistant flame suit]

yokotas13

11-21-2006, 03:16 AM

i test fitted a 10 inch equip on my car. and i have a lot of baning, hitting, bending done in the front. and there was NO turning radius

koukimonster139

11-22-2006, 02:27 PM

285/35 on a 18x13.5 kranze

shut up overfenders are on the muthafuckin way.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/HPIM1109.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/HPIM1110.jpg

axiomatik

11-24-2006, 05:28 PM

^^^^
nice balloons. you should run at least 315s.

RedSVTFlareside

11-25-2006, 12:06 AM

^^^^
nice balloons. you should run at least 315s.

+ 2

Side note: That is a huge wheel. Which over fenders are you getting? I've got 50mm rears and I think the absolute widest I could use is a 17x12 wheel with a 315/35-17 on it. oh yea... I forget you're only using a 285/35-18. You'll probably clear the fender with that skinny ass tire. I don't think that wheel would ever clear 50mm fenders. If your wheel was tucking under the fender, you probably have other problems though.

Post pics after the wide body. I'd like to see.

chmercer

11-25-2006, 02:20 AM

you know they make 285/30 right, it would look less nasty, if you could get it to mount. i would run a 295/30 on that wheel though.

also, kranze what, like every wheel weds sells is kranze somthing. please not cerberus 1. please. so ugly

my fingers are crossed for bazreias

ROFL REDSVTFLARESIDE omg please your user name, makes me want to rape a pinecone. worst username ever. also you dont know shit about overfenders. that wheel will fit with 30mm version select flares and regular camber.

edit -

oh god cerberus 1s
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/HPIM1107.jpg

are you sure thoes are 13.5j, 13.5 -11 is about the highest offset you can run on the rear of an s14 without hitting the shock, and thoes deff dont have the lip of a 13.5 -11. 13.5 +3 hi disk would have 5.5 inches of lip but that would hit the shock for sure. the tire stretch looks more like a 12.5, did you measure it yourself? if so when you measure, you dont include the tire seats of the wheel, which would account for an extra inch.

dont mind me just bored

McRussellPants

11-25-2006, 02:43 AM

I don't mind Cerbeus I's.

If I were shopping on the Weds page it wouldn't be my first choice though.

I concur about 295/30 being more baller

Roflmobile at SVT: dude, if my car was as high as yours I could run 405/55s on a 17x15 -90 and not rub anything.

RedSVTFlareside

11-26-2006, 03:33 AM

yes... RedSVTFlareside is an old name, I used to drive this http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/545/19391DSC01049-thumb.JPG. But its as much pain in the ass to change a name as it is to change a phone number. So... enjoy fucking that pinecone, I'm definately not changing it now. I assume chmercer has something to do with your name.

I really don't know shit about over fenders, other than installing them on my car and checking tolerances afterward. Go fuck another pinecone, I don't like you already. :) Maybe the S14's have extra room for tires.

Stock suspension is a bitch, I considered mounting some used boggers on the rear as a joke. I'll be purchasing the KTS coilovers in Feb or Mar.

Edit: I read some of your other posts chmercer. You're a fucking tool, nothing else to say. I think the only thing you bring to this forum is your mouth. Go fuck another pinecone, you piss everyone off.

RedSVTFlareside

11-26-2006, 03:49 AM

It was tough getting my 17x10's to fit, and yes I also know how to measure. Of course the offset +12mm is all kinds of wrong with the wheel(got them off of a mustang). I'll be getting a new inner rim half to help with the offset and make 17x11.5", but I really don't think there is enough room for 13.5 wide wheels with proper fitting tires on there. You'd need like a 75mm over fender to fit a 13.5 wheel with a 335 series tire.
http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/543/19391DSC00995-med.JPG
Lots of room for the wheel, but not so much room for a 275/40-17 tire.
http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/500/19391DSC01521-med.JPG
There's definately room for a 295 tire on a wheel with more backspacing than my wheels. You'd be wasting money on a 13.5 wide wheel and not getting your money's worth on tire. You're hauling around excess wheel weight, not that much but that's one way to look at it. If you can only fit a 295 tire, then why do you need a 13.5" wide wheel?

KA24DESOneThree

11-26-2006, 01:19 PM

I love this thread. I love Zilvia.

In one corner, we have the whores who HAVE to look like their car is straight from DoriTen or Option or whatever and hate on everyone who doesn't care about aesthetics. Of course, if you're not going to make it look good why are you driving a 240? Why not a Z06? I wouldn't dislike this camp so much if they weren't such douchebags.

In the other corner, we have the performance guys. They hate on the fact that the aesthetics guys can't figure out how to size their wheels so they, you know, fit. They hate on the fact that the aesthetics guys sometimes forget to upgrade their suspension further before fitting the biggest, most JDM bodykits and wheels on their cars. The performance guys' cars are often not to generally accepted standards as far as aesthetics go, but they don't give a damn.

My real problem is: why the hate? Why can't the aesthetics guys go a single day without vomiting idiocy in threads that don't ask for it, and why can't performance guys leave the hipari, bodykit and retarded wheel size threads alone? It's not like anyone is hurting anyone else by putting a kit on their car or stretching their tires to resemble something a circus clown hands out to children. It's not like anyone is hurting anyone else by leaving their car unpainted, making it look like the quilt that homeless guy down the corner made of roadkill hides, or focusing solely on suspension performance.

Fact of the matter is that we're all enthusiasts and if we coexist withoutsome of us being useless dillholes (yes, dillholes... 6th grade called and wanted its insult back but I'm staking my claim) we can actually have a damn good time. How many of you dillholes are actually nice people in person? A lot; stop hiding being your computer screen and stop being sallies.

/rant

naed240sx

11-26-2006, 01:41 PM

lol

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chmercer

11-26-2006, 02:16 PM

why the hate? this is zilvia. it would be completly weak if nobody talked shit. it would be like nico or somthing.

RedSVTFlareside

11-26-2006, 02:29 PM

Nice post KA24desonethree

Sorry OP if I got a little off topic. My e-feelings were hurt.

You're right, I could really care less about what wheel or tire anyone has. Do what you want to do, and I'll do what I want to do.

koukimonster139

11-26-2006, 09:00 PM

Which over fenders are you getting?

I don't think that wheel would ever clear 50mm fenders.

Post pics after the wide body. I'd like to see.

...they're all the same
i think mercer was right
i will

you know they make 285/30 right

oh god cerberus 1s

13.5 +3 hi disk would have 5.5 inches of lip but that would hit the shock for sure.

did you measure it yourself?

when did those come out?
ya wasnt my first choice either but I gave 950 for them w/tires
not with a 10mm spacer
all by myself

yes... RedSVTFlareside is an old name, I used to drive this . But its as much pain in the ass to change a name as it is to change a phone number. So... enjoy fucking that pinecone, I'm definately not changing it now. I assume chmercer has something to do with your name.

I really don't know shit about over fenders, other than installing them on my car and checking tolerances afterward. Go fuck another pinecone, I don't like you already. Maybe the S14's have extra room for tires.

Stock suspension is a bitch, I considered mounting some used boggers on the rear as a joke. I'll be purchasing the KTS coilovers in Feb or Mar.

Edit: I read some of your other posts chmercer. You're a fucking tool, nothing else to say. I think the only thing you bring to this forum is your mouth. Go fuck another pinecone, you piss everyone off.

i found this post rather annoying. although funny as hell when mercer gets to someone.

fliprayzin240sx

11-26-2006, 09:13 PM

285/35 on a 18x13.5 kranze

shut up overfenders are on the muthafuckin way.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/HPIM1109.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/driftgay/HPIM1110.jpg

Holy fuckin aye...13.5 ~340mm so your stretching tires over an inch each side. Your sidewalls must love you and who ever mounted those tires deserved a fucking tip. Im surprise that thing is holding air...

overb0ost

11-26-2006, 09:54 PM

why the hate? this is zilvia. it would be completly weak if nobody talked shit. it would be like nico or somthing.

thanks for proving to everyone you have the mentality of a 16yr old in highschool.

McRussellPants

11-26-2006, 10:03 PM

There's definately room for a 295 tire on a wheel with more backspacing than my wheels. You'd be wasting money on a 13.5 wide wheel and not getting your money's worth on tire. You're hauling around excess wheel weight, not that much but that's one way to look at it. If you can only fit a 295 tire, then why do you need a 13.5" wide wheel?

You're preaching about 2lbs of extra wheel weight... when your master plan for suspension involves 1000$ coilovers?

Brilliant.

PS. OMG are those Fuldas? hahahahahahah. you'll need that 295 clown.

It also makes me lol that those Cerbeus's are probably lighter than "zOMG hot town performance FN01R-C"

datboibrad

11-27-2006, 01:06 PM

omfg wow. this thread is hilarious. i for one get tired of hearing Viceroy clown people left and right about the smallest things on their rides, but seriously 90% of you guys ask for it. they just feed off your ignorance and lack of style in each and every thread here.

since im actually posting. i was curious about this sidewall understanding. allbeit i know next to jack shit about wheels and wheel fitment. what im half way getting in this thread is that on lets say a 10.5" wheel that sidewall would cause a 275 and 315 to get roughly the same contact? im trying to size up tires for my drag/daily wheels which are x9 F and x10.5R and trying to stay as flush as possible (hopefully without adding fender). the fronts im almost set on just a 245/40/17 but im curious on if i would notice a grip difference between the 275/3518 or stuffing in a 315/35/18.

koukimonster139

11-27-2006, 03:46 PM

your post is confusing
you dont need a 3 series anything for a 10.5
what are you trying to find out

overb0ost

11-27-2006, 05:12 PM

is it me, or am i the only one that notices that chmercer/viceroy MOSTLY comment on ONLY the car appearence? i have yet to see them post any vids of them in "action" or on the track to say the least.

at least people like dousan, flybert, doriftoslut etc etc have posted vids of them ripping it at the track. with great vids comes trust since they can put their words of advice into action. yes ive seen some of viceroy's rides but only parked on the driveway on some stands.

maybe they have posted some vids of them at the track, but it hasn't been ciruculated much or nothing at all. at least dousan and the rest of the top drifters, their vids come up in at least some threads when you search. i even found dousan's old d1 driver search vid that was in 2001/2002.

i may be wrong, but don't listen to shit talkers that have nothing to prove it for. yes they got style, but it doesn't seperate them from the rest of the crowd.

maybe all they care about is JDM RICE? even on their website theres just pictures of the cars sitting and collecting dust and looking pretty. anyone with cash can build a nice looking car, but it takes skill to track the car and abuse it like a slut while keeping it looking clean. maybe if viceroy was nice enough, dousan and flybert and the crew could give some pointers for you guys to get started on the TRACK. maybe even show you guys how to drive your cars instead of hardparking them.

but its just my opinion, i could be totally wrong and they could have a few vids on zilvia, and if so, don't be shy to post them up VICEROY.

when you post some decent vids of YOUR cars in action while YOU guys are driving it, ill shutup and maybe you can show the people what RICEroy...i mean Viceroy is all about.

edit: heres a nice picture of viceroy in "action" but in a huge lot drifting around cones. you guys should have signed up for dousan's just drift event and step your game up just like how you tell everyone else to with their rides. oh and maybe get some decent pictures and videos while your at a real track.

http://i11.tinypic.com/3yy2m11.jpg

oh my apologies, its CONE since i only see 1. and why take off that sweet bumper of yours? is it too low to go sliding in and your afraid to crash in an open parking lot? funny how you tell ppl to learn how to drive when you have ur bumper taken off in an empty parking lot full of 1 cone. btw, nice clear shot of the car in the picture or was that the best shot you had of your car sideways?

:cj:

McRussellPants

11-27-2006, 05:53 PM

ahahaha:

did you one arm bandit type that entire thing? because your other hand couldn't have left dousans sack during that masterpeice.

The pics of us driving are around, you seem competent enough at stalking people so Im sure you can find them. you'll prolly also see that tracks are 404 in texas.

koukimonster139

11-27-2006, 06:12 PM

maybe
i may be wrong,
maybe
maybe if
i could be totally wrong
, ill shutup and maybe
oh and maybe

lollers you seem so unsure if your viceroy attack will be valid. :bite:

lollers more cause it never will be

sucks that you lose sleep over someones car club tho.

overb0ost

11-27-2006, 06:39 PM

hahahaha thats the best you guys can come up with, to attack my attack? and not even counter attack? McRussellPants, i've never seen a man's jealousy go so low before. Its like OMGWTFBBQ, someone else is better than me?!?!? NO WAY! I CANT STAND THIS! IN THE NAME OF RICEROY!!!! :bowrofl:

also, i don't even see one picture posted

hahahaha hardparkers FTMFW!!11!!!!

and i give credit where its earned. don't hate just because the other drifters on the board will probably make your eyes cry blood.

and koukimonster....where do you even belong in this thread? go ride viceroy's dick because that's all you seem to be good at. do they even deserve the credit you try to give them? by having a nice car on stands and take pictures and post it on zilvia so they can show off their amazing jdm tyte rides. too bad they don't have much to prove when it comes to their driving skills.

oh and i kept saying "maybe........" because i was trying to give viceroy the benefit of the doubt to give them a chance to prove themselves and call me on my attack (like maybe they are hardparkers and maybe they cant drive and just maybeeeeeeee just maybeeeee they got small balls?). i honeslty wasn't 100% if they did have videos so i didn't want them to look so bad infront of their favorite zilvia fans.

i guess i was wrong, no pics...no vids....a bunch of "smart" comebacks tho

The pics of us driving are around, you seem competent enough at stalking people so Im sure you can find them.

sorry i don't stalk. its hard to not click video links when you SEARCH for related topics on drifting and such.

edit: its no use trying to take the picture of chmencer off the page, nice try backing up your "boy" tho McRusselpants

KA24DESOneThree

11-27-2006, 06:59 PM

They drive. I dislike the way they present opinions and feed ignorance but they're serious and I respect them for it.

datboibrad

11-27-2006, 08:16 PM

you can find picks of Russ and Stew in action on a more local TX forum.... i leave posting the pics up to them tho.

McRussellPants

11-27-2006, 08:26 PM

datboibrad

11-27-2006, 08:35 PM

your post is confusing
you dont need a 3 series anything for a 10.5
what are you trying to find out
well for the power ill have 245's wont hook so i need something wider on the streets. i was thinking 315's but alot of folks are saying they wont hook any better than a 275 on a 10.5" wheel.

Dousan_PG

11-27-2006, 11:18 PM

damn internet drama
cant we all just get along?
nah thats no fun
more hate!
let the dark side take over!

chmercer

11-27-2006, 11:28 PM

is it me, or am i the only one that notices that chmercer/viceroy MOSTHOLY FUCK THIS POST IS SO LONGlear shot of the car in the picture or was that the best shot you had of your car sideways?

:cj:

i skimmed this cause it was pretty long but read most of the last paragraph

i didnt have the bumper at that event cause i was running like 10 degrees of caster and i couldnt turn the front wheels, so i just drove there with no bumper.

the picture is grainy cause it is a video capture

i have some video of me drifting on the news if you want that, it was when my car was blue

also if u wanna like talk about how to pull the ebrake and what a clutch kick is you could go to drifting.com, when im on the internet i like to look at pictures, so thats generally what i comment on. i dont read the threads with all the writing.

McRussellPants

11-27-2006, 11:32 PM

clutch kick is what happens when you want to drift.

first

the clutch is like bang!
then the motor is like VRRRRRRRRMMMMM POP
and the the tires are all like SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee.

OMG, I just proved I know how to drive or something.

ixfxi

11-28-2006, 11:52 AM

this is such a great forum

JSpecBnr32

11-28-2006, 06:47 PM

here is my old car i drove 225/40/18 on a 9.5 daily no problems at all, my buddy runs 215/45/18 on a 10 up front

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2456000-2456999/2456323_35_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/2456000-2456999/2456323_48_full.jpg

same wheels on my old s14
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2401000-2401999/2401629_18_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2401000-2401999/2401629_20_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2401000-2401999/2401629_26_full.jpg

thanks