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CleanS14
06-01-2006, 08:44 AM
Hoping to start a clean thread so people can get the info they want ASAP in stead of reading through a million posts :hahano:

http://www.driftbattle.org/images/flyers/DriftBattle_July6th_Front.jpg (http://www.driftbattle.org)
http://www.driftbattle.org/images/flyers/DriftBattle_July6th_Back.jpg (http://www.driftbattle.org)

For additional information click on the flyers or visit the website here

www.driftbattle.org

CleanS14
06-03-2006, 10:14 PM
There are only 2 spots left for this event. If you were planning on waiting until the last minute... DON'T!!!

Please review the rules and regulations if you are a participant. Spectators need to take a look at the Spectator Info please!!! Spectators are $5 and will be limited to the grandstand area. If you would like to enter the pits you will need to pay and additonal $5 at the pit area entrance.

See you all there!

Irukandji
06-03-2006, 10:24 PM
If we can't make it to the event, do we get refunds or will we have to sell our spots?

Fatlace
06-04-2006, 02:29 AM
You'd have to sell your spot. No Refunds. Oh and btw, We've negotiated a total of 8 hours of drifting from 1pm-9pm so that should be more than plenty for the 40 of you drifting! Enjoy, hope to see and meet you guys there. I'll be the guy with the Green S14 with Busted Aero! (thanks to Willow Springs. doh!)

FaLKoN240
06-04-2006, 03:17 AM
Woo woo, registration is full.

Drunk Bastard
06-04-2006, 09:02 PM
I think Davis posted this in the No More Norcal Thread....

If you have a crack on your windshield, is that going to be a problem?

I ask because I also have a cracked windshield on the FC and was hoping NOT to have to spend ~$150 on another windshield right away....

SpeedMonkeyInc
06-04-2006, 09:24 PM
Thats great news about the extra time! Thanks guys.

newb_driver
06-04-2006, 10:00 PM
i was reading the rules/reg page and it said that it's okay to bbq right? just wanted to make sure....

dct223
06-04-2006, 10:27 PM
I think Davis posted this in the No More Norcal Thread....

If you have a crack on your windshield, is that going to be a problem?

I ask because I also have a cracked windshield on the FC and was hoping NOT to have to spend ~$150 on another windshield right away....

serously... i e-mailed jay a pic of my windshield... i hope i dont have to replace it!! cus that would be a bummer.. ive been a poor college student out of work since last summer =/

anthony240
06-05-2006, 12:32 AM
wow full already! i'll be there to help staff Jay, since my car won't be ready anyway.

YUNG DRIF
06-05-2006, 01:01 AM
some one wanna sell me a spot just send me a pm

CleanS14
06-05-2006, 09:24 AM
i was reading the rules/reg page and it said that it's okay to bbq right? just wanted to make sure....

As mentioned on the R&R page, all are subject to change.

BBQ's are not okay at the event for obvious reasons. Flammable fluids in the pits etc. AMP said no to this and it's understandable.

CleanS14
06-05-2006, 09:29 AM
I think Davis posted this in the No More Norcal Thread....

If you have a crack on your windshield, is that going to be a problem?

I ask because I also have a cracked windshield on the FC and was hoping NOT to have to spend ~$150 on another windshield right away....

Davis & Joe, while I'd love to say it's no problem; it will be. This event has to go smooth and AMP is watching with a close eye on how events are run. Especially by a drift group. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, but we are all about safety first.

CleanS14
06-05-2006, 09:31 AM
We will send out an update with the changes for the R&R's as well as the info regarding those interested in tandem practice later this week after we finalize the details. Thanks for your patience. If you have any questions please email them to [email protected] so that I can answer them wide to everyone all at once via an email notification.

Thanks!

Jay

kazuo
06-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Hey Jay,

The "no passengers" rule sucks. :(

santacruisin
06-08-2006, 03:16 PM
Hey Jay,

The "no passengers" rule sucks. :(

where you get that from? there's nothin about it on the rules and regulations page. If its true it does suck :-/

SpeedMonkeyInc
06-08-2006, 04:52 PM
The no passengers rule was stated in an email issued to anyone signed up. Its always fun to scare people in your passenger seat, oh well. It will still be a great event!

FaLKoN240
06-09-2006, 01:43 AM
I agree no passenger rule is pretty lame.

Drunk Bastard
06-09-2006, 04:05 AM
of course I agree as well, but if the track has a rule, then you gotta follow it. Save the bitching for the grandstands

dct223
06-09-2006, 07:23 AM
i also agree... no passengers kinda sucks, but rules are rules... Guess some of my friends who are coming to watch are going to be sad no ride alongs..

also... what if the passenger is another registered driver?? There will always be a better driver somewhere, so maybe we can ride with that better driver and see how the driver i guess drives and learn from him???

haha does that even make sense??? ugh.. been studying non stop for finals sorry if it doesnt..

Irukandji
06-09-2006, 08:59 AM
Boo for strict tech.

Altamont doesn't care about a small crack in the corner of your windshield.

CleanS14
06-09-2006, 12:05 PM
Are you guys serious?

First of all if you read the rules and regulations there is an * that says they are all subject to change per event. In this case, we need this first event to go smooth as silk. We would like all of you to come out and drive!!! This event is not for spectators and passengers to come see and participate in a show. It's an open drift practice for you guys to come practice. We are only allowing spectators because we understand that people would like to come out and watch. AMP is controlling all of the spectator stuff.

And as for the strict tech rules. You obviously have not been to a real sanctioned track day/event. We are trying to be official and professional about this. Safety first, and YES, if AMP was doing the tech inspections they would care about the crack on the windshield. If you talk to those that have issues with their windows you'll find that we have worked with them to make sure they can drive at the event.

We don't put these rules out there to discourage anyone from driving etc. They are for safety reasons. What we really need is for everyone to act like adults and stop crying about stuff that is irrelivant to the happenings at the event.

We may allow passengers at later events, but for this first event it will not happen. If this doesn't work for you I apoloigize, but I do realize like I said in another thread... I WILL NEVER MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.

CleanS14
06-09-2006, 12:22 PM
Okay to clarify... other drivers will be allowed as passengers, but no spectators as passengers. Sonny and George will also be there to instruct/ride along with you guys if needed.

SpeedMonkeyInc
06-09-2006, 12:38 PM
That is good news. Instructors and fellow drivers will be helpful in practice.

jy116
06-09-2006, 01:08 PM
i didnt see anything bout spectator entry fee... is there one? AND, wut if sumones car breaks in that 8hrs of drift, can sumone take their spot then? 8hrs of drifting is a looong time...

CleanS14
06-09-2006, 01:57 PM
i didnt see anything bout spectator entry fee... is there one? AND, wut if sumones car breaks in that 8hrs of drift, can sumone take their spot then? 8hrs of drifting is a looong time...

If a vehicle breaks during the event it is on the owner of the vehicle. There are no events that allow someone to take over another's spot due to vehicle failure. If you are able to find another car however and you are a registered driver you can continue driving.

Yes, we know 8 hours is a long time. So we hope that everyone is satisfied with the amount of time given. We did receive emails about this and that is why we extended the event another 2 hours. It should be more than enough time for everyone we hope.

www.driftbattle.org check the event details and the flyer above for spectator info.

MikeDeuce
06-09-2006, 01:58 PM
I WILL NEVER MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.

Whiners make the most noise, it doesn't mean you don't have a ton of people thrilled that you've even gone to the trouble of organizing something like this.

You've made the ones who shut up and drive very happy.

See you in July, Jay!

-mike

Drunk Bastard
06-09-2006, 02:16 PM
What we really need is for everyone to act like adults and stop crying about stuff that is irrelivant to the happenings at the event.



:werd: :werd: :werd: :werd:

turbospeedmuffin
06-09-2006, 03:56 PM
Whiners make the most noise, it doesn't mean you don't have a ton of people thrilled that you've even gone to the trouble of organizing something like this.

You've made the ones who shut up and drive very happy.

See you in July, Jay!

-mike

word. :2f2f: :2f2f:

SpeedMonkeyInc
06-09-2006, 04:00 PM
Whiners make the most noise, it doesn't mean you don't have a ton of people thrilled that you've even gone to the trouble of organizing something like this.

You've made the ones who shut up and drive very happy.

See you in July, Jay!

-mike

Exactly. Thanks.

jy116
06-09-2006, 05:53 PM
oh my bad... I didnt notice the flyer had $5 spectator fee info. I thnk it was the cool graphics and hott wheels that distracted me :]

CU in August :]

707coupe
06-10-2006, 01:35 AM
ok, so I can drive 2 cars?

Fatlace
06-10-2006, 01:06 PM
Amen.. Jay summed it up. We're throwing this event which is a practice drift session, not a side show for ride-a-longs. The only way to get better is to not get distracted trying to show your friends how sweet you can drive. I think that's what an exhibition is for. Anyways, hope to see and meet you guys out there, whining or not. Hopefully the latter.

santacruisin
06-12-2006, 05:55 PM
any rules against rodeo drift on the skid pad?
You know half of drift events is going nutz and bustin doughnuts cuz for once in your life you don't have to worry about getting busted for having fun. It is for me at least.

SpeedMonkeyInc
06-12-2006, 05:58 PM
Your kidding right? Hopefully everyone will understand that you are joking, and are not seriously thinking about doing stupid stunts like that.

DJPimpFlex
06-12-2006, 06:16 PM
^yea rodeo drifts are the lamest thing since nonsliced bread. Why would you ever practice something like that?

SpeedMonkeyInc
06-12-2006, 06:31 PM
Lets not forget this clever fellow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbE_4lfVqhk

FaLKoN240
06-12-2006, 06:47 PM
I think rodeo drifting was more of an NCDA thing.

DJPimpFlex
06-12-2006, 06:50 PM
That vid makes me laugh every time....

YUNG DRIF
06-12-2006, 07:12 PM
rodeo driftin is the shit till u fall out ya car, witness one and it was the funniest shit cause the kid thought he was the best driver in the world

dct223
06-12-2006, 07:19 PM
there isnt even a skid pad at altamont anymore i dont think..

CleanS14
06-12-2006, 07:28 PM
I know he was joking right? You should obviously know the answer to that question, but just in case you are looking for an official answer:

We will not allow any body parts to be outside of the vehicle while on track. This includes your hands/arms/feet/anything. If you are caught doing any of this stuff you will be removed from the event without refund.

As for whether or not there will be a skidpad, we are still deciding on that (it is more of a location on the track situation since the skidpad was removed during renovation). I do think we will have an area on track for novices to practice their donuts though as there are quite a few novices at the event.

newb_driver
06-12-2006, 07:34 PM
jay, i had sent an email a couple days ago. just wondering you got it or not. thanks.

CleanS14
06-12-2006, 07:38 PM
Sorry Erika! I'll send you all the info now... but in short it was just saying:

*No BBQ's
*Arrive ON TIME
*No Passengers other than other drivers or the instructors
*No Tandem Practice at this event
*Please clean up after yourself

But I will forward you all of the emails sent out at your new email address.

Irukandji
06-12-2006, 08:41 PM
FYI, there's no room to practice donuts on the new track layout. However there is a small S turn where the old skid pad used to be, but I doubt people will want to practice on that.

infinitexsound
06-12-2006, 09:41 PM
doin a rodeo drift is kinda hard considering that the gas pedal is so far away on LHD car... thats why its so easy to do it on a RHD car... but what ever.... keep the sideshows in oakland...dont fuck it up for everyone else..

CleanS14
06-12-2006, 09:59 PM
FYI, there's no room to practice donuts on the new track layout. However there is a small S turn where the old skid pad used to be, but I doubt people will want to practice on that.

I've been there... there is enough room to practice donuts unless you're trying to do some feint initiation into them... even then you would be able to in certain areas of the track. It's pretty wide though not as wide as some of you are used to on the old skidpad. We'll make a decision soon.

santacruisin
06-13-2006, 12:35 PM
^yea rodeo drifts are the lamest thing since nonsliced bread. Why would you ever practice something like that?

No I am not joking, ncda used to let people do rodeo. It was a legit question. A big part of drifting IS showing off and making it exciting for spectators. Last I heard tennis shoes with graff on them were not a part of drifting. :bowrofl:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b231/nfirdaus/D1%20Grand%20Prix%20Series%202006/DSC_4695.jpg

CleanS14
06-13-2006, 12:44 PM
No I am not joking, ncda used to let people do rodeo. It was a legit question. A big part of drifting IS showing off and making it exciting for spectators.

First of all we are not the NCDA, so please don't associate any of their allowances or rules and regulations with our events.

Second, we understand what drifting offers when it is a show/exhibition/competition etc. This event is none of those. It is an open practice day for you and the other drivers to practice in a safe environment on track.

FaLKoN240
06-13-2006, 01:01 PM
Stop fucking complaining.

Drunk Bastard
06-13-2006, 02:19 PM
I think you will find the "S Curves" to be more fun than a donut would be. It is pretty tight and requires good throttle and steering control. If you wanna do donuts, go to an intersection in Oakland.

blu808
06-13-2006, 03:48 PM
Yes the s turn area seems to be good for beginners. The only thing i would consider is that there is a wall right at the entry of the s turns. Either way there should be enough track for everyone to play around.

tbowzer
06-13-2006, 04:17 PM
No I am not joking, ncda used to let people do rodeo. It was a legit question. A big part of drifting IS showing off and making it exciting for spectators. Last I heard tennis shoes with graff on them were not a part of drifting. :bowrofl:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b231/nfirdaus/D1%20Grand%20Prix%20Series%202006/DSC_4695.jpg


ncda never allowed it, although some people may have bent the rules, there was still a no rodeo policy. I remember for the longest time, Don, wouldn't let anyone do that stuff in the skid pad.

CleanS14
06-13-2006, 04:27 PM
ncda never allowed it, although some people may have bent the rules, there was still a no rodeo policy. I remember for the longest time, Don, wouldn't let anyone do that stuff in the skid pad.

Thanks for the clarification. I hope everyone understands that we are going to be strict about the rules and if you break them you will be removed from the event without refund. AMP staff/security and the local authorities will be watching the event so we need to make sure this goes down as a successful event. It will help all orgs to host events at the track including NCDA if we can show them that we are the same guys that will attend NCDA events etc.

FaLKoN240
06-13-2006, 04:29 PM
Then on the final Night Drifts he didn't give a fuck. LOL.

707coupe
06-14-2006, 02:33 PM
ok, if you hella good then others might be interested seeing you, but if you think you're good, don't even bother.

Irukandji
06-14-2006, 03:11 PM
ok, if you hella good then others might be interested seeing you, but if you think you're good, don't even bother.



You're retarded.

blu808
06-14-2006, 04:34 PM
ok, if you hella good then others might be interested seeing you, but if you think you're good, don't even bother.


ZOMG WTf? Jesus christ had dreads. So shake em!

Irukandji
06-14-2006, 04:36 PM
Jesus christ had dreads. So shake em!


I ain't got none but I plan on growin' some.

FaLKoN240
06-14-2006, 06:42 PM
ok, if you hella good then others might be interested seeing you, but if you think you're good, don't even bother.


My Friend and I agree.

You need an English class, BAD.

infinitexsound
06-15-2006, 08:59 PM
ok, if you hella good then others might be interested seeing you, but if you think you're good, don't even bother.
R u serious?

dct223
06-15-2006, 09:11 PM
I ain't got none but I plan on growin' some.

Imagine all the Hebrews going dumb, dancing on top of chariots and turning tight ones.. OOOOhhhhh

blackflag_Rms13
06-17-2006, 01:59 AM
Hahaha, gettin hyphy off manischewitz (or however the fuck you spell that)...

Go Jewish! Go dumb dumb!

infinitexsound
06-17-2006, 05:24 PM
dont u love the bay area, daymn i love this part of cali..

CleanS14
06-18-2006, 12:14 AM
To everyone signed up for the event!!!

Please keep in mind that we have a 2 week cancellation policy. If you do not cancel within 2 weeks of the event you will not receive a refund. We have a LONG waiting list and can provide you with someone that will paypal you your entry fee right away. This has already been done twice.

Again, if you plan on cancelling... it will need to be at least 2 weeks prior the the event date and a refund will be provided if we can find a driver to take your spot.

jaae86
06-22-2006, 03:27 PM
It's exactly 2 more weeks from today before this event. For those who registered, I would use this time to go over your car and see if you pass all the recommended tech requirements in order to participate. It's not advisable to wait last minute. As previously mentioned from the other posts, we have to be strict and YOUR safety is our number one concern. We want you to come prepared for this event so you'll have a great time at the track. Please go over Drift Battle's rules and regulation and feel free to ask questions. Go here for the rules and regs: http://www.driftbattle.org/html/RulesReg.html
Thanks and see you in two weeks!!!

santacruisin
06-22-2006, 04:03 PM
Are there any shops where we can get tech done before the event? Is wheel works gonna show up with a tire mounting machine?

CleanS14
06-22-2006, 06:13 PM
We don't have any shops that can do the tech ahead of time. We are not chargine a penalty or anything like that for not having your car pre-inspected. We just ask that you pre-check your car according to the tech sheet provided on the site.

The Wheel Works truck, after talking to Luke I guess was a friend of a friend that no longer has those resources. I've looked into getting something like this out for everyone, but nothing is working out. If anyone knows where to find these types of guys let me know and we'll inquire with them. But to answer your question. No there will not be a Wheel Works truck at the event as of now.

YUNG DRIF
06-23-2006, 02:29 PM
ayeee go crazy im in i knew people were gonna flake. now i gotta show who hits the the most wall, bondo king baby

blu808
06-23-2006, 06:09 PM
Hey. There is a guy that sells tires, and parts to the nascar guys. He is the person who has that little shop there. He mounted some for me at the last comp. You may want to ask the track if they can contact him.

CleanS14
06-29-2006, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the heads up Luke! I'll talk to AMP about this today.

One other thing guys... we have ONE cancellation that needs to be filled. Please email me if you want to participate or know someone that wants to participate and has the money. [email protected]

Thanks!

Jay

Sil-Abc
07-03-2006, 03:13 AM
Sorry Erika! I'll send you all the info now... but in short it was just saying:

*No BBQ's
*Arrive ON TIME
*No Passengers other than other drivers or the instructors
*No Tandem Practice at this event
*Please clean up after yourself

But I will forward you all of the emails sent out at your new email address.

when u say "No Passengers other than other drivers or the instructors", does that mean i can go into someone elses car and stuff? Cause im gettin mixed ideas like no passengers no matter what but then after reading this im confused. Heh sorry :D

DJPimpFlex
07-03-2006, 04:23 AM
the no passenger thing really sucks IMO.

CleanS14
07-03-2006, 05:10 PM
the no passenger thing really sucks IMO.

I'm sorry you don't like the rule, but it's not changing. Instructors and drivers will be allowed to be passengers, but that is it. This is an open practice not a place to give rides to friends/spectators.

As a warning to everyone participating, we are going to enforce every rule on the Drift Battle rules and regs page, so if you are not famililar, please take a look.

DO NOT be late to the driver's meeting. We will call out all of the names and if you are not present, you will be marked inactive for the event without refund. There will be NO EXCEPTIONS!!!

YUNG DRIF
07-03-2006, 05:13 PM
so wat time is the drivers meet i intend to forget, hahahaa why does the list say im from folsom, and i drive a 97

CleanS14
07-03-2006, 05:19 PM
http://www.driftbattle.org/html/July6th.html

Schedule is at the bottom of the page... driver's meeting will start at 1230pm. You will have 30mins after tech to prep your car if you are in the first 2 groups out before the driver's meeting. The meeting should last no more than 15mins (unless there are tons of questions). The first car out will be at 1pm.

A more detailed schedule will be handed out to drivers when they check in.

DJPimpFlex
07-03-2006, 06:10 PM
why did AMP decide that passengers are not going to be allowed ever? I'm not fighting about it, but I was just wondering there reasoning.

YUNG DRIF
07-03-2006, 06:46 PM
it was a learning experience wen i would ride with people at the track , seeing how they enter the turn and getting a feel for it

monkey7
07-03-2006, 07:48 PM
Its always fun to have passengers. When I screw up and do something dumb were laughing like crazy.

Either or people get to run the track again! Enjoy everyone!

CleanS14
07-03-2006, 09:08 PM
it was a learning experience wen i would ride with people at the track , seeing how they enter the turn and getting a feel for it

You're a registered driver... so you can ride with other drivers and they can ride with you. Drivers/Instructors can help the drivers... I don't see how a spectator could do the same (yes I understand that some people watching could provide input but there are also tons participating that could do the same).

DJPimpFlex
07-03-2006, 09:46 PM
I think I could provide much input seeing as I've been on that track 3 times now. Either way I know its not your decision.

Sil-Abc
07-04-2006, 12:25 AM
well i get to ride with matt and matt can ride with me and we can have a jolly good time

CleanS14
07-04-2006, 09:37 AM
Sure as long as he's regsitered... which I think he is.

CleanS14
07-05-2006, 05:08 PM
:bash:

Okay guys I sure hope everyone gets this and can pass on the word. This is very unfortunate... but due to Use Permit issues at AMP... AMP... I said AMP not NOT NOT NOT Drift Battle or Jay or Mark or Al or Sonny or George or any of us that are a part of Drift Battle agree with this... but they will not be allowing ANY spectators at the event. :-/

I don't know how they intend to deal with the mass amount of you that may not get the message and come out, but this is what I was told to tell people. I have no control over this and I have argued with them about it with no avail. I apologize to everyone that was going to come out to support the event. If you have questions please call AMP and find out why because I have no more time/patience to argue with them about having you guys watch. I am very frustrated right now because I was told for over a month spectators would be allowed and now this... anyways... I will see all of the drivers at the event... just sad that this won't be as successful in my eyes without all of the NorCal supporters there.

Again, if you know someone that intends to watch tomorrow, please let them know AMP will be turning away people at the gates and we have no control of this.

Jay :bash:

SpeedMonkeyInc
07-05-2006, 05:12 PM
WTF?! Hella weak. Are we still allowed a helper for changing tires and such?

CleanS14
07-05-2006, 05:14 PM
Yes, you are still allowed one passenger/helper car with parts if needed... sorry if I'm not too reposnsive here guys, I'm trying to tie up loose ends before the event and now this happens... REALLY messed up!!!

santacruisin
07-05-2006, 05:28 PM
ARRGGGHHHH!!! My girl was looking forward to seeing me drift and then the Night Drift was canceled at the last minute. Then no ridealongs for spectators, now NO spectators!! She gonna be pissed!! Don't they realize that drifting is mostly a spectator sport?!?! Next they're gonna tell us that CHP will be inspecting every car on the way out!

But on the flipside I ain't gotta worry about my shit getting ganked while I'm drifting.

MikeDeuce
07-05-2006, 05:39 PM
ARRGGGHHHH!!! My girl was looking forward to seeing me drift and then the Night Drift was canceled at the last minute. Then no ridealongs for spectators, now NO spectators!! She gonna be pissed!! Don't they realize that drifting is mostly a spectator sport?!?! Next they're gonna tell us that CHP will be inspecting every car on the way out!

But on the flipside I ain't gotta worry about my shit getting ganked while I'm drifting.

Can't you make her your pit crew?

Sorry to hear this had to happen so last minute, Jay!

DJPimpFlex
07-05-2006, 06:41 PM
she can be in my pit crew...hehe..jk

OMGWTFBBQ
07-05-2006, 07:31 PM
thats fucking bs
thats like the whole premise of the sport

FaLKoN240
07-05-2006, 07:38 PM
So, if we are rollin like, 4 cars deep, what if some of the "pit crew" are going to be OUR spectators? They're not allowed to watch either? They are FORCED to stay in the pits? It's fucking lame. We need to develop better contracts with those assholes so that they can't continue to pull this last minute bullshit on us.

I'm getting fucking tired of paying them for track time, and having all these lame delegations on what is, and ISN'T allowed.

Soon they're gonna tell us to keep the smoke down.

CleanS14
07-05-2006, 07:39 PM
Guys, I've been talking to Altamont all day in hopes that we could work sometihng out.

Santacrusin, you can bring your girl as your passenger/pit person so don't worry about that.

The bigger issue at hand is that AMP wants drift events to happen often/regularly, but they are under a hawk's eye right now from the county and residents around the track that want them shut down. Their Use Permit does not allow them to have spectator events at the track... that being said the definition of a spectator event is when spectators sit in the grandstands and pay for entrance per what I understand after talking with AMP. So that doesn't mean that if 400 or so of you show up you can't watch from the parking area on the hill etc. Nobody will be allowed in the pits however due to liability and insurance exposure... I know this sucks, but this is the best I could do and I'm still not sure that they will let anyone through the gate.

To everyone giving me negative feedback... that's fine, the feedback on here doesn't matter to me... but if you would've actually read the posts... I was not the person that decided not to have spectators... it was AMP.

Thanks everyone and sorry for the inconvenience...

Jay

CleanS14
07-05-2006, 07:42 PM
So, if we are rollin like, 4 cars deep, what if some of the "pit crew" are going to be OUR spectators? They're not allowed to watch either? They are FORCED to stay in the pits? It's fucking lame. We need to develop better contracts with those assholes so that they can't continue to pull this last minute bullshit on us.

I'm getting fucking tired of paying them for track time, and having all these lame delegations on what is, and ISN'T allowed.

Soon they're gonna tell us to keep the smoke down.

Guys as mentioned before... one passenger or one driver with car to carry supplies/tools/wheels etc if needed. And yes, if your pit crew are spectators that is fine.

Just bare with them for this first event. They are being watched and so are we. The attitude of fuck them... will get us nowhere fast. What needs to be done is to be cooperative, mature and professional so they will treat us with respect. Respect is never given to you out right... it's always earned.

FaLKoN240
07-05-2006, 08:33 PM
So, I should be angry at the residents then? I'm getting my spraypaint ready.

anthony240
07-05-2006, 08:44 PM
I think it's a great rule, especially for AMP's (and Drift Battle's) fist official drifting event. It'll go much smoother with less people/cars to worry about.

And what the hell is up with the attitude again? Take it or leave it, shit, if you don't wanna have a properly regulated event then don't attend. It's your money, do what you want with it.

There's no one to be angry to, this is just how it is and that's life.

And who the hell is giving Jay negative reps?!? Ungrateful bastards.

santacruisin
07-05-2006, 08:49 PM
don't sweat it. You can always bring your folks out there for the friday testing sessions. once you get on the track nothing else will matter. Some people, like my gf, work during the day so they can't pit crew. It is a Thursday after all. If you mad at AMP leave some tire marks on their property!!

blu808
07-05-2006, 10:21 PM
I think we all need to take a step back. Eventhough this does cause problems for alot of us. We should feel lucky that altamont is willing to even try this type of motorsport again, and it is due to the hard work that jay and those guys have put fourth that is even making this possible.

I think right now Altamont has noticed that none of the drifters are driving reckless or causing problems, so that probibly leads them to believe that the problems associated with night drift was the spectators.

That being said we should probibly just try to ride this one out, and act as professional as possible. Because i can guarantee you all that if this event goes bad it will probibly be the last for altamont. At least for awhile.

downshift_sideways
07-05-2006, 10:42 PM
awww lamzors. No specs? I had some friends comming up from SC and long beach to spec. fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk .

another last minute shit, Who makes the rules? I would love to email them.
Please give me some info.

SpeedMonkeyInc
07-05-2006, 10:57 PM
Emailing won't help. They already know that no one is going to be happy about the rule change. We need to be happy that we are drifting again.

Thanks Luke, good post.

Thanks Jay, we know you are working hard for us!

downshift_sideways
07-05-2006, 11:04 PM
I appreciate everything that Jay is doing, but i do hate last minute things.

My friends and I were planning on going to the practice. They were filming a project for school.

My head hurts, Anyone need a spot for tommorow?

SpeedMonkeyInc
07-05-2006, 11:24 PM
Don't worry, I feel you. Its a major bummer that spectators got canceled. Oh well. Hopefully this event is a great sucess and AMP loosens up a bit!

Drunk Bastard
07-06-2006, 02:43 AM
Why is everyone being such a crybaby?! Don't you guys realize that the specatators are the whole reason why there is drama with AMP, the county and the neighbors. Just deal with the rules. Sure it sucks that you can't have your friends/family come and watch and sure it sucks that you can't have passengers, but this is the FIRST DRIFT EVENT with AMP in 2006, so EVERYTHING is under a close watch. This event needs to go very smoothly to ensure that we can ALL have FUTURE events. Don't blame AMP for anything negative, blame the spectators who do donuts in the parking lot and/or speed up and down the road going to Altamont.:madfawk:

I really hope this event goes well!:bigok:

See everyone at the track!:2f2f:

Agent_S13
07-06-2006, 10:16 AM
I think its so unfortunate to see how badly AMP is treating Jay and the Drift Battle group. I honestly hope they don't treat their other potential customers like this. While I agree, that they probably want to simplify things by preventing spectators, but the manner to which they notified Jay (a day before the event) is completely unprofessional.

Yes, they probably are under a microscope because of the residents who live nearby but they can go about this in a more open manner. Why didn't they express their desire for a "no spectators" rule when they began negotiations with Jay? Do you seriously believe that AMP just "decided" against spectators? No, they've been under constant watch and I bet they are aware of the complaints. I know Jay would have understood their point of view and therefore would have told people that its "Drivers only" event to show AMP that a drift event can be held without the problems (wreckless drivers outside the park) they THINK are related to these events. In addition, Jay wouldn't look like a bad guy telling everyone last minute that no spectators are allowed.

I just think it sucks because AMP has a monopoly and the power to bully their customers around like that. Its too bad we can't get GG Fields or another suitable location set up for drift events as our way of boycotting AMP's business practices, such as it is --- we're stuck with the only location here in NorCal with a Viable track within an hour's drive.

Jay - With this new "No Spectators" rule, how does that pan out for your competition in August?

All in all, to those who registered (or could take the time off to attend) --- Have fun out there!

-Aaron
'91 240sx coupe

Irukandji
07-06-2006, 12:14 PM
Everyone has to stop bitching.

Stop with this whole "altamont is so strict, they hate us" attitude. Important thing is that we have track time now, so take advantage of it rather than trying to be rebellous, because quite frankly... they'll make money with or without you guys attending, and I'm sure they'd prefer NOT having us to begin with, since it brings a lot of complaints from the neighbors.

eisenfaust
07-06-2006, 12:30 PM
I still plan on riding out this evening, even if I have to watch from the parking area/hill.

blackflag_Rms13
07-06-2006, 12:49 PM
Have fun out there guys! I was going to come and hang out, but I guess not...

tbowzer
07-06-2006, 01:03 PM
Guys it is a drift practice, no competion no nothing. Half of us arent anything special to watch, So it would be pretty boring imo. If there was tandems and a showoff that would be a better reason to complain for no spectators. Have fun everybody!

monkey7
07-06-2006, 10:02 PM
I wish I have gone, but after all the bullshit I read on this forum, I bet everyone still had a great time. I can't wait till people post on how exciting it was! Hurry up, I want some details!

Big ups to Jay for setting this up!

Drunk Bastard
07-06-2006, 10:27 PM
I had a GREAT time today!

Thanks Jay! Can't wait till August

eisenfaust
07-06-2006, 11:02 PM
Had a good time. Didnt get to see more than 90 minutes or so.

I'm glad they changed their spectator policy. I was expecting a no spectator rule, so I didnt even bring my 5 bucks cash for admission. Nice to see some cool cars, and I didnt get too much ribbing about showing up on a bike. :)

Sil-Abc
07-06-2006, 11:32 PM
pretty fun but layout couldve been better. course 2 was terrible and boring... im sorry but most would agree it did suck. a skidpad would be a good idea instead. Alot of ppl crashed and totaled their car. my group had 2 bad crashes and i just pecked the wall. wish we couldve had more track time. thanks again

SpeedMonkeyInc
07-06-2006, 11:50 PM
I liked the small course actually. I didn't think it sucked at all. A little tricky to get right ( which I mangaged only once ) but fun.

Over all a great day, but a bit lacking in actual track time. Long lines just like any event like this.

CleanS14
07-07-2006, 12:05 AM
Thanks for all the support guys! And a huge thanks to everyone for cooperating and showing AMP that we are worthy of having events at their facility.

Sorry to those guys that crashed... and we do realize that the small course may not have worked well for many if any at all. We will do our best to get you guys good/safe course layouts to work with. We're just dealing with too many variables right now with AMP, safety and everyone watching. We tried to get everyone as much runtime as possible...

I'm going to start a feedback thread seperate from this one so that we can get your input for the next practice. But for those of you that feel you're up to the task... 8/26 is our amateur comp!!! There will be some good competition heading up from Socal and other parts for this event... just check out the Drift Battle website for all the info.

Thanks again everyone!!! Seeing the event go so well/smooth really made giving up my nights/weekends planning and working with AMP worth it.

If anyone has images we can use for the site or galleries... please post links here or email the links where they are hosted to me at [email protected]

Jay

YUNG DRIF
07-07-2006, 02:21 AM
aye thanx jay and george for helpin me pass tech u guys mean so much to mee , the track is hella rawwww and the small track was great , people were spinnin out left and right, i was under steering like crazy with my +2 camber ahahah

95Blue240sx
07-07-2006, 10:50 AM
Met lots of cool people out there. Gets hot as fuck on the small grid when i was working it. Thanks to one group for blastin music to keep me entertained. I thought you guys got lots of track time, but thats just me. I took a ton of pics, which should be on driftbattle soon as i send them to Jay.

CleanS14
07-07-2006, 11:32 AM
There are some pics here guys...

www.jsjbrothers.com

dct223
07-07-2006, 01:46 PM
thanks jay and the rest of DB staff for hosting the event! I had a great time.

I liked the mini course and the big course, i think you should keep them both for next events!

rewplayff
07-07-2006, 02:40 PM
i agree that was all awesome, from the track to the organization. it was all fun. i had a blast. thanks to everyone who made this happen. hope this proves good things.

MikeDeuce
07-07-2006, 04:29 PM
How great was that to be home within an hour of an event again? Thanks again Jay and team, sorry for being the last one out... I think I did that to Al and Erik at every BW event I ever went to as well :ugh:

HerbReal
07-07-2006, 06:00 PM
Jay, Mark, Al, + crew

I want to say thanks for all your effort & the crew.The event went pretty smooth and all the drivers were all in time, except for one lol. I know all you guys started early yesterday working under the sun and you guys ROCK!!. Im sure most of us that went had fun and dont lose hope for the drivers who lost their cars, its an experience to learn to be out there. BTW here are some of my pictures that me and my friend took:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/herbrealphotography/sets/72157594193270388

Herb

SpdElemts
07-08-2006, 05:14 AM
Good Job... Jay, Mark, Al, and to anyone else who made the event possible. First thing first I would like to thank all of you who behaved at the event. You guys set a very good example for drifters to AMP. Very happy with everyone who actually cared about having more events at AMP. Thanks Guys. The event went real smooth, a little crowded on the grid but that was my only concern, so basically everything thing else was perfect. And to Hung haha your crazy man, I guess I must share my dent removal secrets with you huh? Just hit me up when you need help or anything. I’m tired and I don’t know what else to say so ill see you guys.


-Jeff

blu808
07-08-2006, 05:42 AM
Good Job... Jay, Mark, Al, and to anyone else who made the event possible. First thing first I would like to thank all of you who behaved at the event. You guys set a very good example for drifters to AMP. Very happy with everyone who actually cared about having more events at AMP. Thanks Guys. The event went real smooth, a little crowded on the grid but that was my only concern, so basically everything thing else was perfect. And to Hung haha your crazy man, I guess I must share my dent removal secrets with you huh? Just hit me up when you need help or anything. I’m tired and I don’t know what else to say so ill see you guys.


-Jeff
http://members.madasafish.com/~cj_whitehound/Rats_Nest/artwork/clipart/winged_rat.gif
Flying rat ask who you are.

95Blue240sx
07-08-2006, 10:17 AM
http://home.alltel.net/petronski/bunny2.jpg

SpdElemts
07-08-2006, 11:24 AM
Flying rat ask who you are.

Who am I? I don’t know if you’re pulling my leg but, Im Jeff Wolfson one of Jays friends. Luke your probably don’t remember me, but I was the guy who you were going to help weld in his radiator support back then. Oh yea this might help some, I was driving the black coupe with "Thrust" Logos all over the car and with the FAT quarter panel damage on the drivers side.

-Jeff

blu808
07-08-2006, 10:45 PM
Who am I? I don’t know if you’re pulling my leg but, Im Jeff Wolfson one of Jays friends. Luke your probably don’t remember me, but I was the guy who you were going to help weld in his radiator support back then. Oh yea this might help some, I was driving the black coupe with "Thrust" Logos all over the car and with the FAT quarter panel damage on the drivers side.

-Jeff


O yes. Whats up Jeff? I was allways a fan of the stenciled logos.

Do you still need to change out that support?