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Man killed by Long Beach police was holding water nozzle, not gun | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

This happened recently in long beach. Dude was ambushed by the police because they thought his water hose nozzle was a gun. This happened at 4:40, so it wasn't even that dark. With no warning, a man on his family's property was murdered for holding a water hose gun...

There are way too many accounts of stupid mistakes and plain out abuse of power by the police. The fact that some of them get away with it makes it sad. Police are here to enforce laws (some just some unjust), but they are never above it. Even when they break the traffic laws they deserve to be punished. Citizens get punished for them, why shouldn't the police?

Honestly, there should not be so many laws that need to be enforced by the police.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-Benjamin Franklin


Dude...Seriously??? So they can go"off the handle" and kill someone? They are allowed to do that?


And if I was in that first video, I don't know what I would have done. If I knew there was a video being made I might have jumped in and get hit a couple times and make of couple million dollars. lol.

BustedS13

....no. to protect and serve the people. that shit's black and white like cop cars used to be.

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Pactin

not quite sure if that's sarcasm... if it isn't, how about some evidence to show that law enforcement officers are legally bound to protect us.

Imarvin240

edit, for if the post below was refering to me, im 22 and my bro is a cop.

my friends dad does undercover law enforcement and he has told tons of horrible stories of police going to far with something and creating something out of nothing. he has also been in law enforcement for about 25 years.

one of my own personal stories from about a month ago:

i was walking down a street in a town in Pa with two of my buddies (one of which is on zilvia) and i noticed that the police department had just got a brand new charger police vehicle which was all black with police on the side and low profile lights on top and the driver cop was slighly reving the motor up a bit (awesome RIGHT!?) while the passenger cop was standing next to his vehicle

Me walking past the new vehicle "thats a sick cop car!"
Officer "shut the f$&k up and keep walking"
Me still walking "wow okay, it was just a compliment"
Officer "Alright thats it, get the f&$k over here!"
I stopped, turned around (looking confused) "what?"
Officer "what the hell do you think you're doing?"
Me "i was ju...(interupted)"
Officer "i didn't tell you to answer!"
Me (confused again) "then why did you ask me a question?"
Officer "i said don't answer! don't even look at me!"
Me (at that point i was so confused and also mad about how this all started, i just started looking up at the sky)
Officer "oh now you want to get smart with me! you're lucky my partner and i dont beat the shit out of you infront of your friends right now!"
Me "Officer, i have given you no reason, which would make what you do illegal and...it was just a compliment"
Officer "you think you're real smart...start walking and if you turn around and look at me, im arresting you"
Me "thats fine, that would be illegal but whatever" (so i got up and left with my friends)

but seriously, i couldnt have been more pissed about how it started. Ask anyone that knows west chester police, they are ALL power hungry! i have yet to meet one that isnt. there are tons of great people in law enforcement, such as my friends dad, but then just one gives them all a bad rep.

BustedS13

this is an idiotic argument. i don't think the catchphrase on the side of a cop car is legally binding, either.


this thread went retarded right off the bat. somebody lock it, too many angry teeners in here.

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Matej

"To protect and serve, and mainly to generate revenue."

mkezzo16

Im sorry, but that guys friends suck. If my friend is getting his ass beat like that for saying shut up not even a profane word. Im A. calling for another office. B. knocking that officer out..admitting what i did and showing proof (video) to the press/ police thAt my friends life was in danger. As long as your not effecting the life, liberty, property (original principles) of someone we should be left alone. What happened to sovereignty

josephin510

Everybody needs cops in a big way.

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Imarvin240

^^^BOOM^^^

couldn't agree more

DrftKingIII

Good ol' St. Louis....

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saleaf

This thread is what i expected. Bottom line. Dont fuck with the cops. Even if you think your right. It doesnt matter! They dont care they will take you to jail any way. Its their job. they are right and you are wrong untill the judge says otherwise.

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omgRWDgoodness!

I remember seeing "Fuck tha police" (among other things) scribbled on the walls of my high school bathrooms from time to time, and couldn't help grinning while taking my leak.

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HalveBlue

Actually, according to some court rulings, the police are NOT required to protect the citizenry.

As retarded as it sound (and is), the police do not have a duty to protect you.

Warren v. District of Columbia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

TNathe

San Fransisco man in wheelchair shot by police, twice. Really?
YouTube - Footage Of San Francisco Police Shooting A Man In A Wheel Chair Caught on Video!

Bluejayde

Cop: Do you feel this?

Suspect: Yes, sir.

Cop: Do you feel that? That’s my …

Suspect: Okay

Cop: … Taser up your ass.

Suspect: Okay

Cop: So don’t move.

Suspect: I’m trying not to. I can’t breathe.

Cop: Now do you feel this in your balls?

Suspect: I do, sir. I’m not going to move. I’m not gonna move.

Cop: Now I’m gonna tase your balls if you move again.

(A full minute goes by)

Cop: Okay, I’m gonna take this Taser out of your asshole now. Are you going to fight with me?

Suspect: No, not at all, sir.

Cop: (to another cop) So far, for the last two minutes, he’s been cooperative. But then my Taser’s in his ass.


Man sodomized with Taser will receive six-figure settlement | Pixiq

Pure_JDM

but if you keep reading in that post, you see how fucked up the cops really are...

"But the incident is far from over. One of the cops involved in the sexual assault has filed a claim against the city for $ 2 million alleging that he was “singled out due to the negative publicity surrounding the arrest incident.”

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20 til 3

actually what a cop is suppose to do is to make sure there is peace throughout a community... a peace-officer

and cops dont follow regulations ever.

and the first video wont even hold up in court because it is ILLEGAL to record the police with your own devices. Sadly, but honestly if a cop was beating the shit outta one of my friends in front of me while he was cuffed laying on the ground, i would personally attack the officer and restrain him myself because i know human rights and a civilian can take an officer into custody if they are overstepping there boundries(people can arrest cops if they are found snooping around there property)

i've seen a cop get fired over unlawfully searching a friends car(window got shot out and the cop felt the need to search in his glovebox, inside a eye-glass case to find the bullit, but weed that was in there).. but he had another officer on his side that was there durring the search that testified for him in court

20 til 3

another little funny cop story

Court Documents Suggest Group Of Rogue Milwaukee Officers - Milwaukee News Story - WISN Milwaukee

S14DB

What law is this?

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mistaanime

yea i don't think the video would hold up in court as well..he's more resisting then ever..i think all they wanted to do was to escort him outta the room, but instead of making a bigger deal than it actually is.. if anything they should have tazed him sooner. haha..all in all know your rights. Recordable devices work..you just need to find an attorney to provide it in court. .if its big enough case and its worth suing the city out of, lawyers would hop onto it because they know the city would more likely to settle because its expensive and takes up time to continue through trial.

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BustedS13

what the fuck are you talking about?

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20 til 3

In Illinois, an eavesdropping device cannot be used to record or overhear a conversation without the consent of all parties to the conversation. 720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-1, -2. An eavesdropping device is defined as anything used to hear or record a conversation, even if the conversation is conducted in person.


In addition, it is illegal to disclose information one knows or should have known was obtained with an eavesdropping device. Violations of the eavesdropping law are punishable as felonies, with first offenses categorized as lesser felonies than subsequent offenses. 720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-4. Civil liability for actual and punitive damages is authorized as well. 720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/14-6. However, not disclosing the contents of the illegally obtained communication is an affirmative defense to the charge.


Standard radio scanners are not eavesdropping devices, according to a 1990 decision from an intermediate appellate court. Illinois v. Wilson, 554 N.E.2d 545 (Ill. App. Ct. 1990). A camera is not an eavesdropping device. Cassidy v. ABC, 377 N.E. 2d 126 (Ill. App. Ct. 1978).


It is also illegal for any person to "videotape, photograph, or film another person without that person's consent in a restroom, tanning bed or tanning salon, locker room, changing room or hotel bedroom," or in their residence without their consent. 720 Ill. Compiled Stat. Ann. 5/26-4(a).


Read more: Answers.com - Is it illegal to record police


and there are a other states that uphold the same shit and more are trying too(it was in the news recently)

raz0rbladez909

It's funny that you say they have a quota for tickets, when not all stations have quotas. So maybe you should be more specific. And usually it is the higher up ones that are the corrupt ones

It wouldn't be news if the news didn't have someone to make look bad, obviously they aren't going to report every good thing that the cops do, it doesn't get the station ratings, what gets them ratings is all the publicity from a few fucked up cops. Not to mention cops can't be everywhere at once, you wouldn't believe some of the stupid things people call for(like little Johnny won't listen to his mother and go to sleep) and other bullshit. Nobody needs to show you the good things they do, you can look for yourself, hell some of the idiots on here that street drift and shit are part of the problem and it makes me laugh when they get busted and bitch about it, what if one of those dumbasses runs into an innocent bystander or bike rider? Good thing the cops busted them, but then someone will say "Can't you go fight real crime." I could rant for hours on your post but I'll leave it at that for now.

I wouldn't say its so many that are corrupt, but more of its the corrupt ones that get media attention, which you watch, get angry and percieve all cops to be bad because of the media. Keep being sheep to the media.

And for you to say cops are not heroes, would you feel the same if they saved your life? Do you feel the same about firemen, doctors, military, etc.?Yes they all signed up for those jobs but it certainly takes a different kind of person to put someone elses life in your hands. You can bitch about it while you sit on your ass but it doesn't change the fact that those jobs are certainly more difficult and require alot more work than your daily routine.

I do however agree that police and government have too much power, but that is because we have allowed them to do so.

On a side note I noticed alot of these videos are dealing with cops in the midwest, is that most cops you guys run into out there or what?

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LimeLite Racing

Yeah. You're right. He was resisting while leaning on that car. Let's beat the shit out of him with a baton.

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raz0rbladez909

I think you were quoting him for the wrong video, the guy you quoted was talking about the guy that was making a scene in a town hall meeting.

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brizanden

right im a sheep to the media. Sir you dont know a thing about me. i severly hate and disagree with almost all television news providers both on their content and their aims. I dont percieve all cops as being bad, i very blantly said i know there is good cops out there that do a great job and i thank them for that. As far as watching videos and getting mad? no, no, no my good sir videos and articles only strengthen my perception i have gained from being profiled numerous times for the car i drive. I dont talk back to cops ever cause i know they can do whatever the fuck they want more or less and thats what pisses me off. I cant ask a simple question without being angry or claim anything except guilt to a cop without risk of being beaten and yelled at (and called a boy and other purpesfully degrading comments). Before you say oh he must be a ricer running around speeding and difting thats why cops are rough on him. No im a medical courier never been pulled over for drifting and only had 1 speeding ticket in 5 years. Yet ive been pulled over maybe 50+ times simply for them to try to find something to ticket me with for having a slammed, stickered ricer. I know right if i dont like it change me, well thats bullshit pure and simple TOO MANY even if that is a small amount of cops are abusing their power and states protect them PERIOD.

i highly doubt a cop could do much more life saving then i can do myself.
firemen yes heroes they run into burning building soley to rescue people, heroic for sure.
doctors in certain circumstances yes maybe, but they are more of a civilian that has good medical training to help people. So a civilian saving someone cause they have the ability yet they dont have to, yes could be heroic. Military? well i have numerous friends in the military and while yes i do thnk they deserve respect and thanks in most cases, but they will be the first to agree with me they are simply doing a job and they dont consider themselves heroes. They are humble about it something the police could learn. i dont agree with our governments use of them all the time and there are still corruptions in the military for sure that i obviously dont agree with. Military personal can perform heroic actions but in a civilian setting so can any of us.
If i wanted to be a cop i could pure and simple so dont say i can bitch while i sit on my ass. the truth is i wouldnt make it in the cop world cause i wouldnt act like many of them do just to make money. thus most cops would probably not like me and thus i would not move up their state (corprorate) structure into making more money, better postions blah blah.


truth thanks for the agreement.

this may be why we have different views, but yes cops out here are rediculous. I have only been pulled over a handful of times (2 of 3 out of about 35-40 having a car pull up on me) and have it be a pleasant experience. I'd say 2 of these times however it was highway partol. Note i still got a ticket one of these nice times but the cop was cool and when i asked what i did wrong he didnt flip and simply explained and i went on my way.
Every other time i was talked to in a stern manner and wasnt allowed to say much with out getting a warning or something from the officer.

TNathe

i like cops, i have never had a bad experience with them, but you are nuts if you dont think this entire country is turning into a police state. "papers please"

BustedS13

moving on.

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I was referring to Los angeles county, I had a discussion with one of my dad's CHP buddy's and he said he would rather give as many ticket as possible then have a budget cut remove one of his friends from the force. He even got an advisory to not allow any "warnings", every person who gets pulled over by his CHP department has to receive some type of ticket.