Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Go Back   Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum > General > Chat

Chat General Discussion About The Nissan 240SX and Nissan Z Cars


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-04-2003, 05:42 PM   #1
YoungRookie
Zilvia FREAK!
 
YoungRookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Geencastle, PA
Age: 32
Posts: 1,068
Trader Rating: (3)
YoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Send a message via AIM to YoungRookie
Muffler

Does it really matter horsepower wise on the muffler? If I were to get a muffler and get custom piping would it make that much of a difference from getting a whole exhaust. I want to get this muffler but i dont know much about the company. If anybody knows about this muffler or how it sounds please give me some info on it. or your opinions on custom exhaust and full cat back exhaust from a company.
__________________
92 Hatch, KA-T, T28, 12 PSI, FMIC, 3" TBE, EFI ECU, 440cc Inj, And more...
YoungRookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 09-04-2003, 06:11 PM   #2
hookedup240
Zilvia FREAK!
 
hookedup240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: NJ
Age: 37
Posts: 1,149
Trader Rating: (0)
hookedup240 is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to hookedup240
I wouldn't get it, it probably sounds bad. The muffler will pretty much determine the sound.(I think)
hookedup240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2003, 07:16 PM   #3
sykikchimp
WOW addicted
 
sykikchimp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the moon
Age: 40
Posts: 6,518
Trader Rating: (0)
sykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to sykikchimp
I've heard good things about Megan exhausts from the Sentra crowd.

Almost any exhaust will sound good on a KA. Sound has more to do with the engine, and cams than anything else. I've NEVER heard a KA that sounded bad, and I've heard a LOT of exhausts.

if your worried about it, throw a resonator in the piping. I don't think it will be necessary though with their silencer in.

edit - this "Made by true aluminum stainless steel" would kind of worry me though.. WTF does that mean?!!?
__________________

Last edited by sykikchimp; 09-04-2003 at 07:18 PM..
sykikchimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2003, 07:20 PM   #4
Bill Roberts
Zilvia FREAK!
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: S FL.
Posts: 1,538
Trader Rating: (0)
Bill Roberts is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I heard that muffler..not bad...and worth 70 bucks.

70 bucks..I burn more gas than that per month...don't like it..sell it!

The other thing that is cool with that muffler is for the very cheap..the removable silencer..and you can drill holes in it and mod it if you like. It is not a fart muffler..almost too damn loud without the silencer. You can mod that silencer to have a good balanced sound. Unfortunantly , the dude that had one...well it is laying on the road somewhere....he scraped it off in traffic due to it being large and his car lowered.

YR, get it for the dough...otherwise do some more searching. I like a performance oval with dual pipes out the back. I also like deep and quiet.
Bill Roberts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2003, 07:28 PM   #5
hookedup240
Zilvia FREAK!
 
hookedup240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: NJ
Age: 37
Posts: 1,149
Trader Rating: (0)
hookedup240 is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to hookedup240
Quote:
Originally posted by sykikchimp
I've heard good things about Megan exhausts from the Sentra crowd.

Almost any exhaust will sound good on a KA. Sound has more to do with the engine, and cams than anything else. I've NEVER heard a KA that sounded bad, and I've heard a LOT of exhausts.
I have heard some bad ka's around me, I guess they are pep boy mufflers though, but i really don't know about that one.
hookedup240 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2003, 08:45 PM   #6
Fastback180
Zilvia Addict
 
Fastback180's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NoVA at heart
Posts: 939
Trader Rating: (0)
Fastback180 is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Fastback180
Naw man! Get a whistler tip! Woo! Woo!

I've heard a pretty bad 240 that sounded like a fart train. But then again, he had an invader bumper on it. So it was expected.

Yeah I've really only thought of mufflers my self. I don't need a full exhaust for N/A car. I was either thinking of a Kei Office axle back, like a nice stealty type one that would only produce noise when the car produced power. Or if I do go the road of a muffler, maybe the JIC canister. Ehh I dunno, it won't happen for a while.

I wouldn't count on that muffler. Get a muffler that's meant for your car. One w/hangers already welded for the specific application. The welds on that muffler look alright. But I grant you the sound might hurt. But if you like it, go for it!
__________________
Fastback180 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2003, 08:52 PM   #7
720_datsun
Zilvia Junkie
 
720_datsun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Peterson AFB
Age: 36
Posts: 436
Trader Rating: (0)
720_datsun is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to 720_datsun
Quote:
Originally posted by Fastback180
Naw man! Get a whistler tip! Woo! Woo!

I've heard a pretty bad 240 that sounded like a fart train. But then again, he had an invader bumper on it. So it was expected.

Yeah I've really only thought of mufflers my self. I don't need a full exhaust for N/A car. I was either thinking of a Kei Office axle back, like a nice stealty type one that would only produce noise when the car produced power. Or if I do go the road of a muffler, maybe the JIC canister. Ehh I dunno, it won't happen for a while.

I wouldn't count on that muffler. Get a muffler that's meant for your car. One w/hangers already welded for the specific application. The welds on that muffler look alright. But I grant you the sound might hurt. But if you like it, go for it!
woo woo. lol yeah iono its cheap so its not like you wasted huge amount of money if you dont like it. o yeah my parents screwd me on co-signing for my loan. im ****ed. last resort is my hommie back home. hopefully he'll hook me up with the co-sign.
720_datsun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2003, 10:11 AM   #8
sykikchimp
WOW addicted
 
sykikchimp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the moon
Age: 40
Posts: 6,518
Trader Rating: (0)
sykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to sykikchimp
it's really not a good idea to have friends co-sign for you.. something happens, even if it's out of yoru control.. say, you DIE. Then your friend is stuck paying your debts. Not cool.
__________________
sykikchimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2003, 11:23 AM   #9
S14 Wannabe
Zilvia Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Age: 41
Posts: 178
Trader Rating: (1)
S14 Wannabe has a spectacular aura aboutS14 Wannabe has a spectacular aura aboutS14 Wannabe has a spectacular aura aboutS14 Wannabe has a spectacular aura aboutS14 Wannabe has a spectacular aura aboutS14 Wannabe has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Send a message via MSN to S14 Wannabe
Why not just save up and get a full exhaust. You can get a full cat-back URAS exhaust for under $ 350.00 or so.
S14 Wannabe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2003, 12:23 PM   #10
aznpoopy
Post Whore!
 
aznpoopy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New Jersey
Age: 40
Posts: 5,013
Trader Rating: (1)
aznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond reputeaznpoopy has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Send a message via AIM to aznpoopy
my car came with a muffler 'upgrade.' personally i think its fuggin gay as hell. its louder for the people INSIDE the car then the people outside. if you're driving around with the stock muffler then you really don't know how annoying it is. imagine a forty minute drive with a constant buzzing drone vibrating your ears sitting right behind your head. its just for looks. maybe it adds a little bit of HP but is it worth it? no, especially if you're planning on just buying the muffler and chop shop welding it to the stock cat-back. save your money for a real performance mod, or better yet, use that cash and take ur car to the track. if you're really serious about performance, do more meaningful upgrades first (brakes?); then save up and get a full exhaust system like s14wannabe said.
aznpoopy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2003, 02:17 PM   #11
YoungRookie
Zilvia FREAK!
 
YoungRookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Geencastle, PA
Age: 32
Posts: 1,068
Trader Rating: (3)
YoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Send a message via AIM to YoungRookie
I was going to get this muffler and a resonater and then get custom piping? Would it be too loud with the silencer out of the muffler? Whould it be better to get an apex n1 since they are so cheap instead of going through with the worry of getting custom piping and all that stuff? I have also been considering the GReddy TR Power Evolution ll , its a nice looking exhaust and its fairly cheap too. I dont want to spend too much over $600 for an exhaust. Would the Greddy exhaust be a good exhaust for NA for awhile till i eventualy get an sr swap? thanks for the input.
__________________
92 Hatch, KA-T, T28, 12 PSI, FMIC, 3" TBE, EFI ECU, 440cc Inj, And more...

Last edited by YoungRookie; 09-05-2003 at 02:22 PM..
YoungRookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2003, 03:25 PM   #12
sykikchimp
WOW addicted
 
sykikchimp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the moon
Age: 40
Posts: 6,518
Trader Rating: (0)
sykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to sykikchimp
TR exhaust will work fine. you'll loose a bit of lowend, and gain some topend.
__________________
sykikchimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 12:23 PM   #13
YoungRookie
Zilvia FREAK!
 
YoungRookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Geencastle, PA
Age: 32
Posts: 1,068
Trader Rating: (3)
YoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enoughYoungRookie will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Send a message via AIM to YoungRookie
Does anybody know where I can get the GReddy TR for less than $519.99 plus shipping? I was looking at buying it from Enjuku racing, they gave me a deal last time I ordered form them and I was very pleased with the serivice. They said it would set me back about $45 for shipping. If anybody knows anything more about this please reply. Thanks
__________________
92 Hatch, KA-T, T28, 12 PSI, FMIC, 3" TBE, EFI ECU, 440cc Inj, And more...
YoungRookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 01:56 PM   #14
Nerfdude
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 495
Trader Rating: (0)
Nerfdude is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
whatever you do, make sure you get a resonator. i made the mistake of having my resonator removed when i got my catback done... (magnaflow, 2.5" dual dtm tips on 2.25" piping) and... yeah, the drone is incredibly annoying. yes, it sounds great above 3500 rpms. but on the highway, it's set right at about 3000, where it just drones on and on. thank god i have a loud stereo to cover it up. but i'd really just like some peace and quiet sometimes... so, i'm having the piping redone with two resonators. it'll look good, sound... really ****ing quiet.
Nerfdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 02:34 PM   #15
russian
Zilvia FREAK!
 
russian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas TX
Age: 38
Posts: 1,336
Trader Rating: (0)
russian is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to russian
the hell with that sissy ****. get this, only good things about those. shiznet
__________________
I must break you.
russian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 05:10 PM   #16
Bill Roberts
Zilvia FREAK!
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: S FL.
Posts: 1,538
Trader Rating: (0)
Bill Roberts is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
http://www.jbaheaders.com/downloads/03sys.mpg


I like the video...
That mustang got on the pipes pretty good eh?

Last edited by Bill Roberts; 09-06-2003 at 05:19 PM..
Bill Roberts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 05:30 PM   #17
zero.counter
Nissanaholic!
 
zero.counter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: At work
Posts: 2,003
Trader Rating: (0)
zero.counter is making a name for him/her selfzero.counter is making a name for him/her self
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to zero.counter
Re: Muffler

Quote:
Originally posted by YoungRookie
Does it really matter horsepower wise on the muffler? If I were to get a muffler and get custom piping would it make that much of a difference from getting a whole exhaust. I want to get this muffler but i dont know much about the company. If anybody knows about this muffler or how it sounds please give me some info on it. or your opinions on custom exhaust and full cat back exhaust from a company.
1) Very little, mostly on the piping from the downpipe to the muff. As long as it is straight, it would be the same as any other. The looks are what the deal is.

2) It might. If the custom piping is perfomred using mandrels and is fitted perfectly to the muffler such a retail cat-back and the piping diameter is what a retail brand would be, then the only difference would be the cost.

3) I have seen the Megan products in use on one guy's 240 here. It sounds pretty good, it's a fireball copy. $65 cheaper as well. He seems to like it and even has the silencers.

4) If the price of a custom was better than that of a retail and the quality was on par, I would take the custom. Again, it would need to be mandrel bent, not crush bent, restrictive flow.
zero.counter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 09:37 PM   #18
ALTRNTV
Post Whore!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Western Conference
Posts: 9,429
Trader Rating: (0)
ALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfectionALTRNTV is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to ALTRNTV
i have that exact same muffler, i had 2.5 inch piping put on after the cat, it sounds really good, not like the bumblee bee sounds other generic mufflers make, it sounds really good at around 3-5k rpm's, with the silencer on, it sounds like a stock muffler, i just happened to slap a Apexi sticker on the side, haha, its worth the 60 bucks Ebay is selling it for, thats where i bought mine from
ALTRNTV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 09:41 PM   #19
Bill Roberts
Zilvia FREAK!
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: S FL.
Posts: 1,538
Trader Rating: (0)
Bill Roberts is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
See...I told jah...
Bill Roberts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 09:42 PM   #20
russian
Zilvia FREAK!
 
russian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas TX
Age: 38
Posts: 1,336
Trader Rating: (0)
russian is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to russian
ummmmm magnaflow.
__________________
I must break you.
russian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 09:52 PM   #21
Bill Roberts
Zilvia FREAK!
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: S FL.
Posts: 1,538
Trader Rating: (0)
Bill Roberts is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Ummmmggg...You right..cheap good and ready..

BTW, Midas has them for about 20% off retail...as their "performance muffler"...I been running it...but actually I am exceeding it now..time to go to the larger unit toward the 1700CFM output ...to keep this hissing beside cars beside me "down"...mine was good..now restrictive..I am pumping serious air!

I am now exceeding the capacity of the muffler and they definitly got a fix for that...with the same deep sound.

I like ummm.
Bill Roberts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2003, 11:30 PM   #22
russian
Zilvia FREAK!
 
russian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas TX
Age: 38
Posts: 1,336
Trader Rating: (0)
russian is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to russian
they do have magnaflow at meineke and midas but it aint cheap. i would get some nice custom mandrel piping and top it with magnaflow. on our "truck" it sounds real good.
__________________
I must break you.
russian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 02:10 AM   #23
sykikchimp
WOW addicted
 
sykikchimp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the moon
Age: 40
Posts: 6,518
Trader Rating: (0)
sykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to sykikchimp
Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Roberts
Ummmmggg...You right..cheap good and ready..

BTW, Midas has them for about 20% off retail...as their "performance muffler"...I been running it...but actually I am exceeding it now..time to go to the larger unit toward the 1700CFM output ...to keep this hissing beside cars beside me "down"...mine was good..now restrictive..I am pumping serious air!

I am now exceeding the capacity of the muffler and they definitly got a fix for that...with the same deep sound.

I like ummm.
So you have the Magnaflow muffler on your car now Bill?

What type/size piping?
__________________
sykikchimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 02:36 AM   #24
twitchy
Zilvia FREAK!
 
twitchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Ontario
Posts: 1,579
Trader Rating: (0)
twitchy is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
My car has custom half inch oversize pluming from the collector back, a catalytic converter from a Pontiac Grand Prix GT (larger engine, flows better..picked it up at a junkyard for 20 bucks) a resonator and all this leads into the stock muffler.

I noticed the sound is gruntier, like a bigger engine, then I re-plumbed the intake into the fender well, removing the resonator box for an intakey kind of sound. Its still semi quiet but its a nice deep tone and powerful sounding which is what I wanted. Big fat chrome tips never appealed to me and neither do weed-whacker noises.

So it seems good if thats what your after and it all cost something like $100 bucks max
__________________
Who the hell needs a sig anyhow
twitchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 09:52 AM   #25
Bill Roberts
Zilvia FREAK!
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: S FL.
Posts: 1,538
Trader Rating: (0)
Bill Roberts is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
See the 14830

http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/m...series.htm#5x8
Bill Roberts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 10:49 AM   #26
russian
Zilvia FREAK!
 
russian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dallas TX
Age: 38
Posts: 1,336
Trader Rating: (0)
russian is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to russian
i had 14803 before. they make a really nice sound. umm sounds kinda like a diesel when idling lol.
__________________
I must break you.
russian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2003, 11:14 AM   #27
sykikchimp
WOW addicted
 
sykikchimp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: the moon
Age: 40
Posts: 6,518
Trader Rating: (0)
sykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura aboutsykikchimp has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to sykikchimp
Got any pics of it on the car? Thats very cool.. looks almost exactly like stock, but just a touch 'meaner'

speaking of pics.. When are you going to do a full photoshoot on your monster??? You know how much we all love pics!
__________________
sykikchimp is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Copyright © 1998 - 2019, Zilvia.net™