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01-17-2008, 11:12 AM | #31 |
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I'm going to talk to EMOTOR and try to get some more information on them.
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01-17-2008, 11:30 AM | #32 |
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"You get what you pay for"
Buy coilovers that are proven and tested, save up and do it right the first time. Don't cheap out on suspension, bad coils will make your car not so fun, hitting your head on the roof is also painful.
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01-17-2008, 11:49 AM | #33 | |
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your 2nd quote is blahh i heard that before it really still doesent mean a thing because you could test any coilover and they still could break leak etc that goes for all name brand coilovers. 3rd quote like i said they arent bouncy at all compared to tein and megans werent that bad either. put it this way folks if you are on a freakin budget and not omg i need to spend xxx for these coilovers because whatever reason try these there not bad. They are very close to the megan "drift" models they have for a even lower price. They offer a freakin 1 yr warranty as well. So shit. still even if i didnt have to pay for them its freakin 6 bills yr warranty its not like they arent local or behind phones and you deal with that shit. i probably spend more than that on freakin aero.
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01-17-2008, 12:12 PM | #34 |
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I've tested out coilovers before. And I'm pretty critical. The function/forms and the Megans. And everyone says they're "the same" but not 100%...
The MR's actually gave me more trouble than the F2's, and I never even tracked the car with the MR's! I wasn't impressed w/ the ride quality with the MR's on my S14, but I was impressed with the ride quality on the F2's in my S13. (Both cars, only suspension mod at the time were the coilovers). They weren't as stiff, which I liked. But my perception of good could totally be different than your perception of good. I like good response without sacrificing too much ride quality. Which is super hard to find with any coilover set up as it's already naturally more stiff than any struts/springs combo. Anyway, MR's and F2's both had the same problem. When I went from full soft to full stiff, I didn't really feel too much of a difference in handling. Horrible valving. It's probably the same situation w/ these, but you tell me I want to feel the difference. The hardware on the MR's were better than the F2's. I broke a stud removing the F2's from my car. How's the hardware on these? Good quality? Cheap quality? The hardware I got w/ my F2's reminded me of the cheap tools you buy at WalMart. So easy to replace, but yet they skimped out on it... Anyway, those are some questions I would ask if I were testing out coils. Besides the obvious, which is ride. Need to know about longevity and adjustability. Personally, I wouldn't have bought them if they weren't pretty much given to me. I need more drastic adjustability and better longevity. So if these are in the same league, I'd be eating Ramen until I had enough to get something better. |
01-17-2008, 12:21 PM | #35 |
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Well only way to solve this is driving my car i guess. your local as well. We can do a godspeed R&d in a open field. Everyone write reviews.
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01-17-2008, 12:38 PM | #37 |
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Ill provide gas everyone bring tires. 10 min per person. Ill need you all to sign a liabillity contract.
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01-17-2008, 01:21 PM | #39 |
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hmm ok well that leaves me, vinh, hijack3d. Ill ask squidd, we need a date and location. Ideas anyone?..
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01-17-2008, 02:09 PM | #40 |
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I do agree with this to some point, not a lot of "good" coils out there that have been tested. Ok, I don't know if that made since.
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http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=169158 The section it was placed in was the major reason.
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01-17-2008, 04:12 PM | #43 |
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If you are looking for budget just stay with Megan. More than likely these are rebadged megans but it's probably not worth finding out for yourself.
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01-17-2008, 05:15 PM | #45 | |
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Bobafreak... I'm free next weekend. This weekend I'm dong the 5-speed and 5-lug swap on my car and a friend of mine is coming into town on Sunday... which does mean though since I'm going 5-lug that I do have a set of wheels with good meaty tires on them that'll have no purpose after this weekend ... if you know what I mean! I have another set of coilovers that I'll be testing out in a couple weeks or so. If all goes well this time around, it'd be kind of cool if this could be a regular thing. Maybe the same group or anyone who's interested could get together and write reviews about parts we install to test... |
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01-17-2008, 05:22 PM | #46 | |
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01-17-2008, 05:57 PM | #47 | |
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I'm not so sure "you get what you pay for" is entirely correct here. From my research, everything that comes out of China OR Japan (yes that is right JAPAN) is crap. With the exception of the camber plates, most Chinese or Japanese coilovers are crap. When i say coilovers i mean shocks. Even the supposedly "high end" stuff like Cusco, HKS, and EVEN Zeal cant come close to some American or European brands. So paying $2500 for coilovers doesnt exactly get you much more than the $1000 coilovers give you. There is a reason Motons, Ohlins, Penskes, Sachs etc are anywhere from $5000 to $20,000. Why do you think the Mine's suspension for the new GTR is $10,000? Because Mine's knows something about suspension and had Sachs make their shocks. The GTR has stock Bilsteins, which is also a great shock company. They could have called up Zeal to design some $4000 coilovers, but going from Bilstein to Zeal is a horrible horrible downgrade. There have been thread after thread about what suspension/coilover is good. Last i checked a very very small percentage of 240 owners need REAL shocks, most just want to slam the shit out of their cars. Of course the more expensive coilovers will be a little bit better, but why pay another $1000 for something you probably wont even notice. For $1000 you can get some Konis that will blow away your $2000 JIC crap coilovers. So "you get what you pay for" doesnt apply too well, people on zilvia just need to learn a thing or two about shocks and be smart with their money. If you want to just slam your car, get some chinese coilovers, if you want your car to perform get Konis, if you can afford it get some Motons, Penskes, etc. For those of you who think im full of shit read this: http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html I've posted it and many others on this forum have before as well, yet no one seems to read it. |
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EDIT: I am sticking to my post...
After a couple months of hard driving on them let us know how they are. It would be nice to see some other reviews from non-sponsored people. Let's hope this doesn't become another D2 fiasco...
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01-17-2008, 10:36 PM | #50 | |
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01-17-2008, 11:33 PM | #52 |
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heh, I am heading down this road as well.
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01-18-2008, 04:34 PM | #54 | |
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haha, i was thinking that they private label some of their stuff. in case you have no idea what that means, Private Labeling is when you buy brandless/ nameless products from another company, and slap your name on it and call it your own. i've seen it done with vitamins, and health supplements, and i've seen knock off auto parts which are like these. notice how in their picture they don't have their name on it.
oh this reminds me of those counterfeit tein coilovers on ebay, the ones that have the tein sticker on them.... Quote:
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01-26-2008, 05:13 PM | #59 |
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Who cares... They warranty them for a year and they are cheap as hell... It has to be a huge improvement over any shock/spring setup... Basically if its all that can fit in your budget and you get that much more enjoyment out of your car then in the end it's all worth it... If your driving on a more serious level than yes it's worth it to upgrade I just don't get the battle of these cheap garbage coilovers... This one sucks more then the other blah blah blah... I saw them in person and if I were on a budget then yes I would buy these... If your new to the scene you can spend the extra money on some track days which would be worth more than the marginally better and also cheap china coilovers...
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01-27-2008, 06:22 AM | #60 |
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Ok guys so I am planning to go talk to EMOTOR soon, what are some questions that you want for me to ask. Two guys here in town have been running these and pretty hard I would say and have no complaints they say it's pretty identical to some other brands that are Zilvia friendly. How long would that last? I don't know.
Like finch says who cares they are cheap.
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