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gsracer · 04-10-2007, 08:53 PM

Heres the specs

VH45de q45 V8
300zx Twin turbo 5 speed
Aluminum Driveshaft

Been working on it for a few weeks

Heres the car

s14

18 by 10 265/30
18 by 11 295/30

Full suspension , and brembos

Tranny

Engine out

Side by side

Going in

Yes the hood closes

Making headers

Clearing the sterring shaft

gsracer · 04-10-2007, 08:56 PM

Merge collectors

Driverside

GRound clearance

Pass side

Out of the car, equal length FTW!!!

Valve covers just powder coated Ferrari wrionkle red

atom · 04-10-2007, 09:05 PM

Interesting..what bellhousing is used to bolt the tranny up?

bustav13t · 04-10-2007, 09:07 PM

SUPER HOTNESS! you must post videos of the car running! +1,000,000

white97s14 · 04-10-2007, 09:07 PM

that is dope, nice car man

johngriff · 04-10-2007, 09:15 PM

that is beyond dope, pics of the motor mounts?

kouki_s14 · 04-10-2007, 09:18 PM

....dammm

how did you mount that thing? brackets and home made mounts? Hows the shifter position? more pictures!

turbo2nr · 04-10-2007, 09:20 PM

wow that is gona be sex on wheels.. i say make a custom intake as well that stock one is fugly..

if you look in the new modify jun made a nice custome mainfold for the vq motor. i say try and copy it and make it work for you..

any chance of turbo v8?

ohspizzill · 04-10-2007, 09:26 PM

wow that is hot. mad skilizzz.

xblack240x · 04-10-2007, 09:29 PM

Nice work man, and DIY I have to give you props.. One question, you gonna sell that KA? Keep us updated and dyno is you can =)

s13silvia123 · 04-10-2007, 09:30 PM

awesome stuff gsracer i was wondering when someone would do this swap.

projectRDM · 04-10-2007, 09:37 PM

You'll pick up 30hp just with the headers, the VH manifolds are some of the nastiest ones on the road. Nice work.

gsracer · 04-10-2007, 09:42 PM

After trying every possible way to fit it, i decided that turbo at least for now was to time consuming not to mention difficult. lol

The car will be getting custom cams, head porting and Individual throttle bodies.

Goal is 380-400 whp N/A. more than enough power for a track (road race) car.

As for motor mounts, i did what most vq guys do. Just used a hockey puck and made my own bracket to put the motor as low as possible and as far back as possible. The motor is 2 mm off of the crossmember

Heres pics

irritatedmax · 04-10-2007, 09:56 PM

looks great. i definitely want to see how this all pans out.

Wei240 · 04-10-2007, 10:32 PM

this is awesomeness!!!

how heavy is it compared to the ka?

gsracer · 04-10-2007, 10:35 PM

it starts out at 521 lbs, not bad considering the fact the KA weighs 493.

Nachtmensch · 04-10-2007, 10:40 PM

sick! deffinately subscribed

looking good. wish i had cash for that kind of swap...

datboibrad · 04-10-2007, 10:47 PM

nice work man. got a few questions that i havent seen addressed in your original post.

1.) why that motor and not VQ or even LS1
2.) last i checked there was no real aftermarket for that motor, so what are your plans for making 350-400whp NA

gsracer · 04-10-2007, 10:53 PM

Funny you should ask, If you look in the for sale section, you will see my built SR20 for sale, i didnt even use it, just got bored of it.

1. I have an unlimited supply of free motors since my father in law owns 3 junkyards. Plus points for different, keeping it nissan, etc.

2. Custom cams and head work and a short runner intake manifold or itbs will get me there, the motor should be at 290-300 whp in the form it is in now. If all else fails, I have a vortech V2 that will get me there and more

Quote:

Originally Posted by datboibrad

nice work man. got a few questions that i havent seen addressed in your original post.

1.) why that motor and not VQ or even LS1
2.) last i checked there was no real aftermarket for that motor, so what are your plans for making 350-400whp NA

Gavster · 04-10-2007, 11:00 PM

looks awesome man....great work! My hat is off to you!! Keep it up!

drift freaq · 04-10-2007, 11:07 PM

props to you man. My hat is off to quite an endeavor.

bardabe · 04-10-2007, 11:13 PM

fuckin incredibly nice. keep up the good work.

k0uki · 04-10-2007, 11:16 PM

+1 for a badass swap

eastcoastS14 · 04-10-2007, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsracer

1. I have an unlimited supply of free motors since my father in law owns 3 junkyards. Plus points for different, keeping it nissan, etc.

^^ well i already think your cool for doing this....however i would think you were even cooler if you could find a 5spd 1jz at a zilvian discount

if you think there is a possibility lmk..... but seriously nice swap

datboibrad · 04-10-2007, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsracer

Funny you should ask, If you look in the for sale section, you will see my built SR20 for sale, i didnt even use it, just got bored of it.

1. I have an unlimited supply of free motors since my father in law owns 3 junkyards. Plus points for different, keeping it nissan, etc.

2. Custom cams and head work and a short runner intake manifold or itbs will get me there, the motor should be at 290-300 whp in the form it is in now. If all else fails, I have a vortech V2 that will get me there and more

iirc that motor was rated at 275bhp unless a later model nissan had more power added to it. but when i was introduced in early 90's in items such as the q45 it was only 275bhp. which nets somewhere south of 240whp. hopefully you can make another 60whp on cams and a good manifold, but i wouldnt hold my breath on stock compression.

props to you man, especially on the headers. makes me not complain so much about the ls1 headers on my car =p

gsracer · 04-10-2007, 11:35 PM

You are correct sir, stock power was at 278 hp at the crank.

However it is rumored to be under rated from the factory.

The q45 guys are getting 230 whp stock ,250 whp with exhaust to as much as 290whp with headers and exhaust. All thru the stock auto tranny.

I hope this motor gets to at least 290 whp

datboibrad · 04-10-2007, 11:37 PM

cool deal. well if it all fucks off then im sure you can find a 5.3 lq motor out of a truck in your dads junk yard. those motors make the same hp as an ls1 just less touqre. not a bad option for a junkyard build IMO.

johngriff · 04-10-2007, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastcoastS14

^^ well i already think your cool for doing this....however i would think you were even cooler if you could find a 5spd 1jz at a zilvian discount

if you think there is a possibility lmk..... but seriously nice swap

I think his connection is a wrecking yard, not a jdm junkyard.

Dude Hockey Pucks ftw. We used Hockey pucks on this S12--> VG30DE Swap that just got banged out. So you were 2mm off slot line up? Does not sound bad at all. Dremel!

We were thinking of doing a manual trans swap on a friends q. This is shaping up to be the same only MUCH lighter. It sucks that you wont feel the before and after of the headers, it is a HUGE difference.... oh that and Nitrous. This engine LOVES nitrous.

Turbo...? Short of a low compression rebuild and some serious management, Rear Axle mount? Have to keep it V8 Style.

Reasons why VH45>LS1:
Over Head cam, IE 4 CAMS.
Much Higher Redline.
Lighter.
Nissan.

gsracer · 04-10-2007, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datboibrad

cool deal. well if it all fucks off then im sure you can find a 5.3 lq motor out of a truck in your dads junk yard. those motors make the same hp as an ls1 just less touqre. not a bad option for a junkyard build IMO.

That was option B lol.

Its my inlaws junkyard not my dads haha

240REVS · 04-11-2007, 12:04 AM

WOW! Thats Nice!! Cant wait to see it all in place..! Good Job

04-10-2007, 08:53 PM	#1
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	VH45de into S14 Heres the specs VH45de q45 V8 300zx Twin turbo 5 speed Aluminum Driveshaft Been working on it for a few weeks Heres the car s14 18 by 10 265/30 18 by 11 295/30 Full suspension , and brembos Tranny Engine out Side by side Going in Yes the hood closes Making headers Clearing the sterring shaft __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

04-10-2007, 08:56 PM	#2
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Merge collectors Driverside GRound clearance Pass side Out of the car, equal length FTW!!! Valve covers just powder coated Ferrari wrionkle red __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

04-10-2007, 09:07 PM	#5
white97s14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: oklahoma Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that is dope, nice car man __________________

04-10-2007, 09:15 PM	#6
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	that is beyond dope, pics of the motor mounts? __________________ [email protected]

04-10-2007, 09:20 PM	#8
turbo2nr Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: queens NYC Age: 35 Posts: 2,560 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	wow that is gona be sex on wheels.. i say make a custom intake as well that stock one is fugly.. if you look in the new modify jun made a nice custome mainfold for the vq motor. i say try and copy it and make it work for you.. any chance of turbo v8? __________________ s14 kouki ka-t

04-10-2007, 09:05 PM	#3
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Interesting..what bellhousing is used to bolt the tranny up?

04-10-2007, 09:07 PM	#4
bustav13t Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ontario, Socal Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SUPER HOTNESS! you must post videos of the car running! +1,000,000

04-10-2007, 09:18 PM	#7
kouki_s14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	....dammm how did you mount that thing? brackets and home made mounts? Hows the shifter position? more pictures!

04-10-2007, 09:26 PM	#9
ohspizzill Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Long Beach Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow that is hot. mad skilizzz.

04-10-2007, 09:29 PM	#10
xblack240x Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Nice work man, and DIY I have to give you props.. One question, you gonna sell that KA? Keep us updated and dyno is you can =)

04-10-2007, 09:30 PM	#11
s13silvia123 Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: where waldo is Age: 39 Posts: 3,256 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	heres a video of the same motor in a s13 but twin turbo awesome stuff gsracer i was wondering when someone would do this swap. __________________ 18g and 20g turbo users click on me http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/261219-18g-20g-turbo-users.html

04-10-2007, 09:37 PM	#12
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	You'll pick up 30hp just with the headers, the VH manifolds are some of the nastiest ones on the road. Nice work.

04-10-2007, 09:42 PM	#13
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	After trying every possible way to fit it, i decided that turbo at least for now was to time consuming not to mention difficult. lol The car will be getting custom cams, head porting and Individual throttle bodies. Goal is 380-400 whp N/A. more than enough power for a track (road race) car. As for motor mounts, i did what most vq guys do. Just used a hockey puck and made my own bracket to put the motor as low as possible and as far back as possible. The motor is 2 mm off of the crossmember Heres pics __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

04-10-2007, 09:56 PM	#14
irritatedmax Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ashland, NE Age: 35 Posts: 1,360 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	looks great. i definitely want to see how this all pans out.

04-10-2007, 10:32 PM	#15
Wei240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: socal Posts: 1,778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this is awesomeness!!! how heavy is it compared to the ka?

04-10-2007, 10:35 PM	#16
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	it starts out at 521 lbs, not bad considering the fact the KA weighs 493. __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

04-10-2007, 10:40 PM	#17
Nachtmensch Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dekalb, IL Age: 33 Posts: 698 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sick! deffinately subscribed looking good. wish i had cash for that kind of swap...

04-10-2007, 10:47 PM	#18
datboibrad Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tx Posts: 636 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	nice work man. got a few questions that i havent seen addressed in your original post. 1.) why that motor and not VQ or even LS1 2.) last i checked there was no real aftermarket for that motor, so what are your plans for making 350-400whp NA

04-10-2007, 11:00 PM	#20
Gavster Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 35 Posts: 512 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	looks awesome man....great work! My hat is off to you!! Keep it up! __________________ I <3 burnt metal smell....

04-10-2007, 11:07 PM	#21
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	props to you man. My hat is off to quite an endeavor. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

04-10-2007, 11:13 PM	#22
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	fuckin incredibly nice. keep up the good work. __________________ Review Thread

04-10-2007, 11:16 PM	#23
k0uki Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: san jose Age: 35 Posts: 1,813 Trader Rating: (47) Feedback Score: 47 reviews	+1 for a badass swap

04-10-2007, 11:35 PM	#26
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 37 Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	You are correct sir, stock power was at 278 hp at the crank. However it is rumored to be under rated from the factory. The q45 guys are getting 230 whp stock ,250 whp with exhaust to as much as 290whp with headers and exhaust. All thru the stock auto tranny. I hope this motor gets to at least 290 whp __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

04-10-2007, 11:37 PM	#27
datboibrad Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tx Posts: 636 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	cool deal. well if it all fucks off then im sure you can find a 5.3 lq motor out of a truck in your dads junk yard. those motors make the same hp as an ls1 just less touqre. not a bad option for a junkyard build IMO.

04-11-2007, 12:04 AM	#30
240REVS Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Cali Age: 36 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WOW! Thats Nice!! Cant wait to see it all in place..! Good Job

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