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chickenmanq · 11-11-2001, 08:34 PM

Don't yell at me, but I have no clue if the 240 sx has a frame.  I'm talking full frame, like my D21 hardbody.  Anyone?

matic 240sx · 11-11-2001, 09:36 PM

uh all cars have frames...

11-11-2001, 09:54 PM

Nah, 240SX are uni body construction, not body on frame.

What it does have are subframes for mounting the engine and the suspension.

misnomer · 11-12-2001, 12:03 AM

Not mine, mine's framed w/ duct tape and pantyhose.

chickenmanq · 11-12-2001, 01:06 AM

Suwwweeeeet.  Thanks.  That's all I needed to know.  If they did, I would immediately consider getting a 240.  I like having a frame.  Like tonight, for instance.  Instead of going back around to catch the one-way street parking lot, I just drove over the curb.  Really nice to have something that can be beaten to crap, and still drive.  We were going to the bars!  Just got back.  Drove my boss home.  He was ripped off his ass.  It was a good night.  

And since matic240 was kind enough to rip on my D21 that last week or whatever, I'm gonna go ahead and say, duuuuuuuuuhhhhh, all cars DON'T have frames, and AUTOS SUCK!!!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  Hope you don't mind.

91 D21 beater, thanks for the subframe info.  Sleeper trucks rule!

matic 240sx · 11-12-2001, 03:55 AM

well good, i learned somethin new... but still ALL CARS HAVE FRAMES...   subframes as he said...   not a full one tho.. sorry for the comment, and yes i have an auto but it was all i could get in a s14b in my area at the time..  and whats it matter when im going to do an sr20det swap?  i rather have an auto s14b than your ghetto beater.... "sleeper" my ass <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

matic 240sx · 11-12-2001, 04:04 AM

by the way don't get mad... i just joke alot
i don't hate on nothing or nobody <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>   heh

chickenmanq · 11-12-2001, 11:57 AM

It's all good.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

11-12-2001, 12:01 PM

awwwwww they made up and kissed and all that good stuff..... nothin wrong with auto 240'z in fact i'd argue its easier to get the rear out in an auto <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> at least from my experience of driving one.... but then again i haven't driven a 5 spd 240 so yah..... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

chickenmanq · 11-12-2001, 02:42 PM

LMAO.  Yeah, it was a big sloppy kiss too.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  As far as autos go, I would say it's definitely not easier to get the rear end out, because automatics provide more even power to the ground.  IT's one of their benefits.  That's why auto transmission cars have better traction in the snow.  Provided the cars are the same.  

mrace240sx · 11-12-2001, 03:37 PM

Very few modern cars have frames, the Chevy Corvette, the Crown Victoria, the Prowler (aluminum frame) and most all trucks are about all that is built on a true frame. The Viper has what is called a tubular frame so Im not sure if that counts.
Most everything on the road today including all the muscle cars (Mustangs, Camaros, Trans Ams, etc) are all uni-body.

mrace240sx · 11-12-2001, 03:39 PM

Oh and Im not sure about some of the high end BMW's and other European cars, they may have true frames but I dont think so.

There is a new Nissan truck that is uni-body, and Ford builds one too. But most all trucks are built on frames.

matic 240sx · 11-12-2001, 09:39 PM

yea, i love showing off my 240 in front of the honda boys by taking a turn really fast and throwing the rear out...  most of them don't even believe its RWD till i show them... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

S13Grl · 11-15-2001, 07:25 AM

Hee, hee! That must bring some satisfaction!!!

My car is framed with little things... yeah. I haven't really thought of anything like duct tape and pantyhose yet, but I assure you, I will later!!!

How about Leggos?

Anyway, I also didn't know whether a 240 had a frame or not, and I own one, so... thank you for educating me.

And chicken, I had a beater car before that I'd drive over the curbs with (I really didnt' give a crap about it;) ). I'm sure your boss was thrilled to ride with you!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

chickenmanq · 11-15-2001, 12:53 PM

Actually, my boss used to work for an auto auction in Penn. and in his stay there, he blew the engines on 14 subarus and one ford.  Big hill coming up one of the roads, and since they didn't care about the cars.  He drives a 80's mustang now, with the 5.0 liter, and a BMW K1000 motorcycle.  Fortunately, we have no problem driving with each other since we're both crazy when it comes to vehicles. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

Actually, the funny thing is I care soooo much about my truck.  I baby the thing all the time.  You know, like check the engine for leaks, run it up to redline.  She loves it.  She's just built so strong, I haven't been able to break much yet.  The way a truck should be.  Only driveline component I've replaced is the center support bearing for the driveshaft.

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11-11-2001, 08:34 PM	#1
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't yell at me, but I have no clue if the 240 sx has a frame.  I'm talking full frame, like my D21 hardbody.  Anyone?

11-11-2001, 09:36 PM	#2
matic 240sx Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: las vegas Age: 38 Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: matic 240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	uh all cars have frames...

11-11-2001, 09:54 PM	#3
Guest Posts: n/a	Nah, 240SX are uni body construction, not body on frame. What it does have are subframes for mounting the engine and the suspension.

11-12-2001, 12:03 AM	#4
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not mine, mine's framed w/ duct tape and pantyhose.

11-12-2001, 01:06 AM	#5
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Suwwweeeeet.  Thanks.  That's all I needed to know.  If they did, I would immediately consider getting a 240.  I like having a frame.  Like tonight, for instance.  Instead of going back around to catch the one-way street parking lot, I just drove over the curb.  Really nice to have something that can be beaten to crap, and still drive.  We were going to the bars!  Just got back.  Drove my boss home.  He was ripped off his ass.  It was a good night.   And since matic240 was kind enough to rip on my D21 that last week or whatever, I'm gonna go ahead and say, duuuuuuuuuhhhhh, all cars DON'T have frames, and AUTOS SUCK!!!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  Hope you don't mind. 91 D21 beater, thanks for the subframe info.  Sleeper trucks rule!

11-12-2001, 03:55 AM	#6
matic 240sx Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: las vegas Age: 38 Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: matic 240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well good, i learned somethin new... but still ALL CARS HAVE FRAMES...   subframes as he said...   not a full one tho.. sorry for the comment, and yes i have an auto but it was all i could get in a s14b in my area at the time..  and whats it matter when im going to do an sr20det swap?  i rather have an auto s14b than your ghetto beater.... "sleeper" my ass <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

11-12-2001, 04:04 AM	#7
matic 240sx Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: las vegas Age: 38 Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: matic 240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	by the way don't get mad... i just joke alot i don't hate on nothing or nobody <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>   heh

11-12-2001, 11:57 AM	#8
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's all good.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

11-12-2001, 12:01 PM	#9
Guest Posts: n/a	awwwwww they made up and kissed and all that good stuff..... nothin wrong with auto 240'z in fact i'd argue its easier to get the rear out in an auto <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> at least from my experience of driving one.... but then again i haven't driven a 5 spd 240 so yah..... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

11-12-2001, 02:42 PM	#10
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LMAO.  Yeah, it was a big sloppy kiss too.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  As far as autos go, I would say it's definitely not easier to get the rear end out, because automatics provide more even power to the ground.  IT's one of their benefits.  That's why auto transmission cars have better traction in the snow.  Provided the cars are the same.

11-12-2001, 03:37 PM	#11
mrace240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 163 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Very few modern cars have frames, the Chevy Corvette, the Crown Victoria, the Prowler (aluminum frame) and most all trucks are about all that is built on a true frame. The Viper has what is called a tubular frame so Im not sure if that counts. Most everything on the road today including all the muscle cars (Mustangs, Camaros, Trans Ams, etc) are all uni-body.

11-12-2001, 03:39 PM	#12
mrace240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 163 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh and Im not sure about some of the high end BMW's and other European cars, they may have true frames but I dont think so. There is a new Nissan truck that is uni-body, and Ford builds one too. But most all trucks are built on frames.

11-12-2001, 09:39 PM	#13
matic 240sx Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: las vegas Age: 38 Posts: 798 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: matic 240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea, i love showing off my 240 in front of the honda boys by taking a turn really fast and throwing the rear out...  most of them don't even believe its RWD till i show them... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

11-15-2001, 07:25 AM	#14
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 40 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hee, hee! That must bring some satisfaction!!! My car is framed with little things... yeah. I haven't really thought of anything like duct tape and pantyhose yet, but I assure you, I will later!!! How about Leggos? Anyway, I also didn't know whether a 240 had a frame or not, and I own one, so... thank you for educating me. And chicken, I had a beater car before that I'd drive over the curbs with (I really didnt' give a crap about it;) ). I'm sure your boss was thrilled to ride with you!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

11-15-2001, 12:53 PM	#15
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Actually, my boss used to work for an auto auction in Penn. and in his stay there, he blew the engines on 14 subarus and one ford.  Big hill coming up one of the roads, and since they didn't care about the cars.  He drives a 80's mustang now, with the 5.0 liter, and a BMW K1000 motorcycle.  Fortunately, we have no problem driving with each other since we're both crazy when it comes to vehicles. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> Actually, the funny thing is I care soooo much about my truck.  I baby the thing all the time.  You know, like check the engine for leaks, run it up to redline.  She loves it.  She's just built so strong, I haven't been able to break much yet.  The way a truck should be.  Only driveline component I've replaced is the center support bearing for the driveshaft.