Re: THE SEATS - Page 2 - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

speedgod^s13 · 06-09-2007, 03:54 AM

Well, I checked out 1 seat. Thank god, it wasn't destroyed, packed the way it was. Seat looks clean, except on the bottom, where there was all this white flaky crap. One question, to those who actually OWN authentic brides. Do yours have zipties, on the bottom of the seats? That's what I discovered on mines, and it struck me as strange. It's like the zipties, are stretching/holding the fabric.

Teambadrun · 06-09-2007, 08:31 AM

Nice to see you got the seats! Hope you like them man!

Cable ties holding the fabric? Where is this? Please show me im pretty keen myself as i never checked the bottoms out as they where left in some wrapping for you from the very start.

Cheers

speedgod^s13 · 06-09-2007, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teambadrun

Nice to see you got the seats! Hope you like them man!

Cable ties holding the fabric? Where is this? Please show me im pretty keen myself as i never checked the bottoms out as they where left in some wrapping for you from the very start.

Cheers

speedgod^s13 · 06-10-2007, 02:13 AM

Wow, i'm surprised no one has replied to this thread. Does anyone else, find it strange, that my seats have zip ties, on the bottom?

Teambadrun · 06-10-2007, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedgod^s13

Wow, i'm surprised no one has replied to this thread. Does anyone else, find it strange, that my seats have zip ties, on the bottom?

Well judging the place i purchesed the seats from i would put my entire life as a bet that they are genuine.. Doubt you could possibly buy "copies" in japan - Actually the seller would probably end up in jail ( Bride distributor)

**ThatGuy** · 06-10-2007, 06:51 AM

I don't know what "model" your Bride is, but I just installed a Genuine BRIDE Brix in my car and there were not any zip-ties on it.

Teambadrun, if you think there aren't any knock-offs in Japan, you are either naive or stupid.

I am not claiming that your seats are knock-offs, I am merely stating that the seat I own, that is indeed genuine BRIDE, is not held together with zip-ties. It is, instead, held together with quality hognose rings.

**ThatGuy** · 06-10-2007, 07:29 AM

Just for reference...

BRIX II

ERGO II

XAX II

So which ones did you buy? Why doesn't the center panel, the signature gradiant BRIDE material, look the same on these seats? Did I miss a reclining seat model? These were the only ones I found on http://www.aspecproducts.com/ and they are an AUTHORIZED DEALER.

**Pictures courtesy of Aspec

**EDIT: I found the original post that says these are ERGO 2 (ERGO II) seats. But they look different from these http://www.tees-usa.com/ergo2.html on BRIDES own homepage. Hmmm,I wonder if they use zip-ties?

Teambadrun · 06-10-2007, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Just for reference...

BRIX II

ERGO II

XAX II

So which ones did you buy? Why doesn't the center panel, the signature gradiant BRIDE material, look the same on these seats? Did I miss a reclining seat model? These were the only ones I found on http://www.aspecproducts.com/ and they are an AUTHORIZED DEALER.

**Pictures courtesy of Aspec

Definately is a Ergo II

**ThatGuy** · 06-10-2007, 07:48 AM

Definitely not. Look again.

The center panel doesn't even match up. The pics on BRIDES homepage show "BRIDE" twice in each color.

The seats you are selling look like a knock-off of the Ergo I being passed off as ERGO II in my opinion.

Teambadrun · 06-10-2007, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Definitely not. Look again.

The center panel doesn't even match up. The pics on BRIDES homepage show "BRIDE" twice in each color.

The seats you are selling look like a knock-off of the Ergo I being passed off as ERGO II in my opinion.

Interesting, They are definately Genuine Ergo 2's. My import S13 has the same pair of seats in it ( about 2 years old by the looks of the condition) and they are the same?

Im interested to see why these Geniune seats sold by previous owners on this forum look exactly the same as the ones i bought off yahoo and sold to speedgod^s13

&

I realy honestly, DOUBT that you can buy a copy seat .. Off a bride distributor in japan via yahoo auctions.

Im not argueing, just letting out my research for everyone to see to make the forum a safer and better place

**ThatGuy** · 06-10-2007, 08:12 AM

See the seam that goes through the middle of the gradiant panel?

The same seam is shown here. So that appears to be a genuine seat.

This is the picture that speedgod posted of the seat he received from you.

I don't see the seam. That's part of what makes me think it isn't genuine. My main factor is still the zip-ties though. I have a used BRIDE BRIX that has no zip-ties, only professional upholstery hognose rings. If someone can provide me pictures of a GENUINE Bride seat held together with zip-ties, like Logan from Aspec, then I will believe yours are real.

Teambadrun · 06-10-2007, 08:15 AM

Hey mate,

I understand what you mean now ( sorta ) but it could mean anything.

In the meantime I would like to hear from the other 2 if they have recieved there seats as i dont want to lose the seats in freight - That would suck.

EDIT: If you see. most seats will vary - even the leather ergo is slightly differnt. ?

Cheers for the help, We will wait till we hear from the owners.

Regards,
Teambadrun

**Phlip** · 06-10-2007, 08:42 AM

This thread has only remained open for the people to air out whether or not they receive their seats.
When everyone confirms delivery, I will close this one, the users will be able to post their own review threads, in it they may discuss whether or not the seats are genuine

speedgod^s13 · 06-10-2007, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

See the seam that goes through the middle of the gradiant panel?

The same seam is shown here. So that appears to be a genuine seat.

This is the picture that speedgod posted of the seat he received from you.

I don't see the seam. That's part of what makes me think it isn't genuine. My main factor is still the zip-ties though. I have a used BRIDE BRIX that has no zip-ties, only professional upholstery hognose rings. If someone can provide me pictures of a GENUINE Bride seat held together with zip-ties, like Logan from Aspec, then I will believe yours are real.

To be fair, it's my picture doesn't do the seat justice. After reading this post, I checked the seat, and there was in fact 2 seams, going through the gradation. Man this is confusing.

**ThatGuy** · 06-10-2007, 03:17 PM

I recommend contacting Tees-usa then if there is to be conclusion to these questions.

http://www.tees-usa.com/

They should be able to tell you from the pictures if the seats are genuine or not.
Good luck.

This thread is for delivery only though. If the seats do in-fact prove to be knock-offs, please make a new review thread to voice any complaints.

speedgod^s13 · 06-10-2007, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

I recommend contacting Tees-usa then if there is to be conclusion to these questions.

http://www.tees-usa.com/

They should be able to tell you from the pictures if the seats are genuine or not.
Good luck.

This thread is for delivery only though. If the seats do in-fact prove to be knock-offs, please make a new review thread to voice any complaints.

Ok, will do.

mr_240sx · 06-10-2007, 04:07 PM

is it possible that they are authentic but have just been re-wrapped in new fabric?

Teambadrun · 06-10-2007, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_240sx

is it possible that they are authentic but have just been re-wrapped in new fabric?

They are genuine, i didnt pay someone in japan 70,000yen a seat for nothing.

LB.Motoring · 06-11-2007, 12:50 AM

Shit is sketchy,

i wouldnt say its real just becouse you paid a whole bunch for it,

take a good look at your reclining assembly and plastic knobs, sometimes you will get clues there.

Teambadrun · 06-11-2007, 01:33 AM

When i first saw them i was stoked. They are exactly like the ones in my car from japan.. They MUST be genuine. I dont see why they would be a copy.

Everything looks A ok to me !

Slidin240Wayz · 06-11-2007, 07:05 AM

The fabric on the seat received by speed is not the fabric I had on my Brix II.

Teambadrun · 06-11-2007, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slidin240Wayz

The fabric on the seat received by speed is not the fabric I had on my Brix II.

Ergo2...

.. Speedgod is happy with what he recieved. It is all settled.

A Spec Products · 06-11-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teambadrun

Ergo2...

.. Speedgod is happy with what he recieved. It is all settled.

Not really.

Just cause you spent a lot of money on a seat doesn't make it authentic.

If the seats were indeed not authentic Bride, then there is a issue.

Either way, I've NEVER seen a Bride seat EVER with zipties holding the bottom of the seat.

On a fake Bride seat I saw, the easiest way is to take out the cushions and you can tell because the foam is low quality, super uneven, etc. From 5 feet the seat looks ok but up close its bad.

The bottom of that seat worries me. I don't have an Ergo II here at the shop, so maybe if someone has an authentic Ergo they could take a picture and compare. At first glance that seat shown in the pics looks more like the fakes I saw rather than an authentic Bride seat I've seen.

If the seats are indeed legit then the seller shouldn't have an issue with investigating the seats.

speedgod^s13 · 06-12-2007, 01:13 PM

Well, I lifted the original paypal claim, which was for not receiving item. I'm gonna take a barrage of pictures today, since i'm gonna install the passenger seat. ( I have no room, to keep these in the house.)
I'll post these up, in my new buyer's review thread.

mr_240sx · 06-12-2007, 01:17 PM

if all goes according to plan im going to pick up my bride seat tonight so ill let you guys know if i actually did receive a bride seat. anbd tehn well transfer to the new review thread for authenthicity.

mr_240sx · 06-12-2007, 04:08 PM

alright guys i went to pick it up today and the seat is brand new and in great condition..... no zipties, theres actually some sort of spring with hooks at both ends holding the cover onto the shell. this seat is definately light! there was 1 little defect over the "BRIDE" logo facing the rear, theres a small little cut but you cant notice it unless your really looking for it.

Teambadrun · 06-12-2007, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_240sx

alright guys i went to pick it up today and the seat is brand new and in great condition..... no zipties, theres actually some sort of spring with hooks at both ends holding the cover onto the shell. this seat is definately light! there was 1 little defect over the "BRIDE" logo facing the rear, theres a small little cut but you cant notice it unless your really looking for it.

Nice to know you got your seat!

mr_240sx · 06-12-2007, 11:15 PM

btw on the vios3 is there supposed to be a sticker on the actual seat that says manufacture date or something like that?

mr_240sx · 06-14-2007, 05:03 PM

alright guys i got the seat and im happy with it.... even though it took almost 2 months to receive it from the day i paid him.

and heres the only defect from the seat.... its on the headrest facing the rear of the car so i can live with that.

Teambadrun · 06-14-2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_240sx

alright guys i got the seat and im happy with it.... even though it took almost 2 months to receive it from the day i paid him.

and heres the only defect from the seat.... its on the headrest facing the rear of the car so i can live with that.

Fantastic , Sorry to hear about the tear in the seat.. Can't see it :P

cHEERS

06-10-2007, 06:51 AM	#36
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't know what "model" your Bride is, but I just installed a Genuine BRIDE Brix in my car and there were not any zip-ties on it. Teambadrun, if you think there aren't any knock-offs in Japan, you are either naive or stupid. I am not claiming that your seats are knock-offs, I am merely stating that the seat I own, that is indeed genuine BRIDE, is not held together with zip-ties. It is, instead, held together with quality hognose rings. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

06-10-2007, 07:29 AM	#37
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just for reference... BRIX II ERGO II XAX II So which ones did you buy? Why doesn't the center panel, the signature gradiant BRIDE material, look the same on these seats? Did I miss a reclining seat model? These were the only ones I found on http://www.aspecproducts.com/ and they are an AUTHORIZED DEALER. Pictures courtesy of Aspec EDIT: I found the original post that says these are ERGO 2 (ERGO II) seats. But they look different from these http://www.tees-usa.com/ergo2.html on BRIDES own homepage. Hmmm,I wonder if they use zip-ties? __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

06-10-2007, 07:48 AM	#39
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Definitely not. Look again. The center panel doesn't even match up. The pics on BRIDES homepage show "BRIDE" twice in each color. The seats you are selling look like a knock-off of the Ergo I being passed off as ERGO II in my opinion. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

06-10-2007, 08:12 AM	#41
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	See the seam that goes through the middle of the gradiant panel? The same seam is shown here. So that appears to be a genuine seat. This is the picture that speedgod posted of the seat he received from you. I don't see the seam. That's part of what makes me think it isn't genuine. My main factor is still the zip-ties though. I have a used BRIDE BRIX that has no zip-ties, only professional upholstery hognose rings. If someone can provide me pictures of a GENUINE Bride seat held together with zip-ties, like Logan from Aspec, then I will believe yours are real. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

06-10-2007, 03:17 PM	#45
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I recommend contacting Tees-usa then if there is to be conclusion to these questions. http://www.tees-usa.com/ They should be able to tell you from the pictures if the seats are genuine or not. Good luck. This thread is for delivery only though. If the seats do in-fact prove to be knock-offs, please make a new review thread to voice any complaints. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

06-09-2007, 03:54 AM	#31
speedgod^s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Age: 41 Posts: 3,159 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Well, I checked out 1 seat. Thank god, it wasn't destroyed, packed the way it was. Seat looks clean, except on the bottom, where there was all this white flaky crap. One question, to those who actually OWN authentic brides. Do yours have zipties, on the bottom of the seats? That's what I discovered on mines, and it struck me as strange. It's like the zipties, are stretching/holding the fabric.

06-09-2007, 08:31 AM	#32
Teambadrun Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne,Australia Age: 42 Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nice to see you got the seats! Hope you like them man! Cable ties holding the fabric? Where is this? Please show me im pretty keen myself as i never checked the bottoms out as they where left in some wrapping for you from the very start. Cheers

06-10-2007, 02:13 AM	#34
speedgod^s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Age: 41 Posts: 3,159 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Wow, i'm surprised no one has replied to this thread. Does anyone else, find it strange, that my seats have zip ties, on the bottom?

06-10-2007, 08:15 AM	#42
Teambadrun Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne,Australia Age: 42 Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hey mate, I understand what you mean now ( sorta ) but it could mean anything. In the meantime I would like to hear from the other 2 if they have recieved there seats as i dont want to lose the seats in freight - That would suck. EDIT: If you see. most seats will vary - even the leather ergo is slightly differnt. ? Cheers for the help, We will wait till we hear from the owners. Regards, Teambadrun

06-10-2007, 04:07 PM	#47
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 35 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	is it possible that they are authentic but have just been re-wrapped in new fabric?

06-11-2007, 12:50 AM	#49
LB.Motoring Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SòCal♥ Age: 35 Posts: 5,840 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: LB.Motoring Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Shit is sketchy, i wouldnt say its real just becouse you paid a whole bunch for it, take a good look at your reclining assembly and plastic knobs, sometimes you will get clues there. __________________ Robby Leuer

06-11-2007, 01:33 AM	#50
Teambadrun Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne,Australia Age: 42 Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	When i first saw them i was stoked. They are exactly like the ones in my car from japan.. They MUST be genuine. I dont see why they would be a copy. Everything looks A ok to me !

06-11-2007, 07:05 AM	#51
Slidin240Wayz Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Everywhere Age: 36 Posts: 5,427 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	The fabric on the seat received by speed is not the fabric I had on my Brix II. __________________ Support Zilvia by purchasing a sticker!

06-12-2007, 01:13 PM	#54
speedgod^s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Age: 41 Posts: 3,159 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Well, I lifted the original paypal claim, which was for not receiving item. I'm gonna take a barrage of pictures today, since i'm gonna install the passenger seat. ( I have no room, to keep these in the house.) I'll post these up, in my new buyer's review thread.

06-12-2007, 01:17 PM	#55
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 35 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	if all goes according to plan im going to pick up my bride seat tonight so ill let you guys know if i actually did receive a bride seat. anbd tehn well transfer to the new review thread for authenthicity.

06-12-2007, 04:08 PM	#56
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 35 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	alright guys i went to pick it up today and the seat is brand new and in great condition..... no zipties, theres actually some sort of spring with hooks at both ends holding the cover onto the shell. this seat is definately light! there was 1 little defect over the "BRIDE" logo facing the rear, theres a small little cut but you cant notice it unless your really looking for it.

06-12-2007, 11:15 PM	#58
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 35 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	btw on the vios3 is there supposed to be a sticker on the actual seat that says manufacture date or something like that?

06-14-2007, 05:03 PM	#59
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 35 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	alright guys i got the seat and im happy with it.... even though it took almost 2 months to receive it from the day i paid him. and heres the only defect from the seat.... its on the headrest facing the rear of the car so i can live with that.

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