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Old 10-04-2012, 12:03 PM   #61
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I sometimes feel that people don't understand the nature of a product like a wiring harness produced by a small company...
A lot of work has gone into the harnesses at WS. I worked with Yury on a few ideas in the very beginning such as the quick change MAF adapter which allows the harness to come with both a z32 MAF connector as well as the stock MAF connector.

As seen in this picture posted by S14Driftr91



The WS harnesses are as close to OEM quality as you can get. I recently installed one of the CA18DET harnesses and it fit like it was designed for the CA to go in a USDM chassis.

Wiring problems are something you do not want to ever deal with. I am glad to see a good amount of people caring about their wiring enough to start a thread about it.

Basically if you need an OEM style drop in harness WS is 100% the way to go.

If you need a custom or mil-spec harness Jeff Jordan is a great guy and does amazing work. You need to understand that he is a very busy guy since he is the one doing the work and can't hire and trust someone right away to do things the way he would do them.

I have seen a lot of his work in person and it is very well done.

Not too familiar with CB, they seem to make some interesting products but i am unsure of the quality. I have heard a lot of mixed reviews...

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Jeff has been nothing but cooperative with me. He's building me a full chassis harness. This stuff takes time when it's the highest quality and when he does the work himself. What you have to understand is custom work takes time and he has priorities with big clients like d1 and time attack that are not only his primary advertising but also big clients that keep the doors open so he can even offer his services to people like us. He can't make a living making swap harnesses for hard parkers and wannabe drifters. His harnesses use the best materials, and to make it still affordable his profit margin is not high.

Custom parts take time 5 months is nothing, have patience. I've waited a year and a half for a head before. It's the nature of the beast.
This is very well put. People need to understand that quality takes time. A lot of people are impatient and that is why you see a lot of thrown together engine swaps that run only half the time. Take a look at some of the build threads that have been going on for over a year or two. These are real quality builds.

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does wiring specailties use china made plugs
Who cares where the plastic plugs are molded? Where do you think automakers have their plastic molding done?

The connectors are definitely OE quality and fit very well.

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A lot of work has gone into the harnesses at WS.
For sure- I've had one of their harnesses on my car for a couple of years now, and the quality is great. Never had an issue with it, and Yury is always down to help me out!
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I had many pigtails sent to me from WS and I usually get them within a few days. I can't think of any other company that would be able to find pig tails for my aging hardness on my KA and send them to me at reasonable prices.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:10 PM   #64
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I am using a WS premade harness for my RB25 swap into my S14. I got a couple of gripes about the harness but not that big of a deal. The harness is made to work on both S1 and S2 engines so it has extra plugs to so it's interchangeable between the 2. If you use it for an S1 engine, I'm supposed to cut the S2 plugs and tape the wires up. I just wish Yury would atleast give the option to have those plugs trimmed out prior to mailing it out. I havent chopped mine up, thinking down the road if I ended up parting my setup up, I can sell the harness.

This is probably due to my setup but only other thing (using on an S1 engine) is I wish the coilpack plug off the engine harness, is a tad bit longer and also the o2 sensor plug (probably 3-4 inches longer) to give you an extra slack. This is probably due to me running a Greddy Intake Manifold and routing the harness under the manifold...
To piggyback on this, just got done putting all my stuff together and finally attempted to fire up the car tonite. Shit started right up after 5 seconds of initially starting it up. FUCK YAH, WS IS THE SHIT!!!
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^^LOL. FUCK YAH.

I also recently installed my WS rb25 to s14. I like the fact that it is interchangeable between series 1-2. If you blow your engine and get a deal on a different series...no big deal. You want to part it out but customer doesn't have the same series as you... no big deal. Tho I would like to have a CB or that style later on. That may be a winter project to take the WS harness and convert it to a quick disconnect style.

And shipping was fast, great oem quality and Yuri was awesome. Ya know same'ol same'ol
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Who cares where the plastic plugs are molded? Where do you think automakers have their plastic molding done?

The connectors are definitely OE quality and fit very well.
i care

sometimes it matters

sometimes it doesnt

if water gets inside a "sealed" connector, tell me how good it is.
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Anyone get a CB 2jz into s13 harness lately? Do they work right yet?
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Not sure but I know MichealWinne is having issues with his Chaserbay RB25 into S13 wiring harness. He sent it back to them already to make sure the harness is good, they said everything checked out but his fuel pump still isnt priming and he has no spark.
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Not sure but I know MichealWinne is having issues with his Chaserbay RB25 into S13 wiring harness. He sent it back to them already to make sure the harness is good, they said everything checked out but his fuel pump still isnt priming and he has no spark.
That doesnt inspire too much confidence.... dammit their harness looks soo good but there are soo many unsatisfied customers
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Honestly, I'd go WS. If you get him to rewire your stock harness, just hit him up first and see how much backlog he has so you got an idea how long itll take. But in all honesty, the pre-made harness he got are well worth the money.
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Honestly, I'd go WS. If you get him to rewire your stock harness, just hit him up first and see how much backlog he has so you got an idea how long itll take. But in all honesty, the pre-made harness he got are well worth the money.
Thanks for the feedback - I am looking to purchase a complete new harness so I think ill be going with WS

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Not sure but I know MichealWinne is having issues with his Chaserbay RB25 into S13 wiring harness. *He sent it back to them already to make sure the harness is good, they said everything checked out but his fuel pump still isnt priming and he has no spark.
False... He had ecu issue's. I have the harness, Works perfect
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False... He had ecu issue's. I have the harness, Works perfect
U have a 2jz harness? Pics of what u recieved?
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IM about to go out on a limb here and order a CB harness with the 10% off deal they got goin...
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I got WS harness car started in the first try awesome customer service!
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I don't know what the fuss is about between the two companies.. I have dealt with both on several occasions and I can honestly say right now that I would go with Chase Bays over Wiring Specialties.. Some one said there customer service is lousy which is complete bs. Chase is awesome and i have never heard of anyone having a issues from him or anyone else over there. They make amazing high quality stuff.

That being said if you can't afford the extra markup for a better harness then go with WS.. The quality is not the same as Chase Bays but there is absolutely nothing wrong with there harness. Better yet make your own and get some custom wiring experience, I don't care.. But overall Chase Bays is f***ing awesome!! I have had a s13 SR harness and now a harness for a LS3 thats going into my 14.. not to mention the brakes, power steering, radiator and fuel filter.. And the stuff looks amazing.
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I ordered my VVL SR harness from them. Has yet to come in, but I will report when it does. I'm looking forward to it arriving.
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Jeff has been nothing but cooperative with me. He's building me a full chassis harness. This stuff takes time when it's the highest quality and when he does the work himself. What you have to understand is custom work takes time and he has priorities with big clients like d1 and time attack that are not only his primary advertising but also big clients that keep the doors open so he can even offer his services to people like us. He can't make a living making swap harnesses for hard parkers and wannabe drifters. His harnesses use the best materials, and to make it still affordable his profit margin is not high.

Custom parts take time 5 months is nothing, have patience. I've waited a year and a half for a head before. It's the nature of the beast.
Well, the thing is when I get the product can I go for 5-6 months without paying?! Hell Nah, I'm forced to penny up immediately no questions asked... Why do you feel that the vendor should have that right????

Had I been informed that it would take over x amount of time/months do you really think I would've gone that route?! I don't think so, not to mention that I was told 2-4 weeks upon recieving my harnesses and down payment and I'm still waiting...

No where in the talks was it mentioned that if a D1 team or whatever they are, time attack, you name it... Should they be a higher priority than me or any other customer?! I paid with the same amount of money as those peoples why should they get better treatment with red carpet and open doors everywhere?!
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Bc they help advertise there business. That's what its all about and there testing and show off there product!! If you don't wanna be a sheep man up be a lion and make ur own lol. Jk
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Bc they help advertise there business. That's what its all about and there testing and show off there product!! If you don't wanna be a sheep man up be a lion and make ur own lol. Jk

My brother, lol if I had the skills to wiring believe me and you both I would've gone that route instead of the $1500 route I took with Jordan innovations... Also the people who's running in D1, time attack, and any other type of racing actually get sponsored by the vendor not the way around!

Why would the teams pay extra money for something that they're going to help advertise?! Doesn't make sense, the sponsors aka vendors give the teams sponsoring or lower priced partsf in order to get their products known and purchased by the average Joe ... Unless I've missed something here, but the last time i checked, teams don't pay falken to run a car for them, its falken pays a team to have their product advertised with that team's car and driver or so it has only been since the beginning of sponsoring!!!
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And for the guy who said that he waited 1 1/2 yrs on a head... All I can do is smdh! Not even tony momo who happens to be undesputedly one of the most talented and sought after for head p&p takes that freaking long!

If you can wait 1 1/2 yrs for just some head work then you my friend deserve a holiday named after you or a medal... At least hug!!! That's a 1 1/2 yrs free interest loan you gave that guy to charge you top dollar for what he did for you.

I'm not sure about you but nobody but my best friend would give me a free interest loan because any other time I went to the bank for a loan they made it cristal clear how much I was gonna pay in interest and to do that for someone who I barely know and give him such a freeby?! I'm not sure I can afford to do that!

But then again I have to work for my living, so that may not apply to most people... Just saying!
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I have the ws harness for my rb and it starts second roll every time the best money i've ever spent.!!!!!!!
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I needed a harness ASAP for an event and he overnighted the harness and shot me a message to make sure I got it..amazing customer service and car started right up first time! WS FTW
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lucky, lucky you!!! one day i will have this type of luck with things that have to do with my car... it will happen, it must at least once! lol
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^^^First time this happened to me too. This was my first RB swap, everything worked out for me off the bat. I had a couple minor issues like busted water line hose and a loose starter but other than that, this was my smoothest engine swap ever. There was no troubleshooting, no chasing bad wiring, shitty ECUs or grounds...everything is working like the engine belongs in the car.
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I got a WS and just liked that i just plugged in and got it to start. No chasing wiring issues like the previous harness that was S13 to S14
that needed to be converted back to S13 to S13.Though I have to say I was not impressed at all by the quality. Plugs looked "cheap"
compared to the oem harness. Instead of having that plastic looking sleeving then electrical tape. It looks like just tape. Wiring
to injectors and the ones that go to MAF and PS are not long enough to tuck under the throttle body to make it look cleaner.
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will wiring specialties being make a ka24de harness? i know chase bays has one but ws seems to have good quality work with better prices
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Well, the thing is when I get the product can I go for 5-6 months without paying?! Hell Nah, I'm forced to penny up immediately no questions asked... Why do you feel that the vendor should have that right????

Had I been informed that it would take over x amount of time/months do you really think I would've gone that route?! I don't think so, not to mention that I was told 2-4 weeks upon recieving my harnesses and down payment and I'm still waiting...

No where in the talks was it mentioned that if a D1 team or whatever they are, time attack, you name it... Should they be a higher priority than me or any other customer?! I paid with the same amount of money as those peoples why should they get better treatment with red carpet and open doors everywhere?!
i understand your frustration, maybe i just understand that when you have something custom made, you usually end up waiting when dealing with a shop that has bigger customers than you. I mean shit what im getting from him is more than twice what you put down and I could be bitching up a storm, but I am not, because the amount of money it would take me to get a similar harness is close to what i am spending, and on top of that I'd have to engineer it and build it, and honestly I wouldn't done with it by now either. I don't have the time to make a harness or the space. This is my project car, I have plenty else to do on the car while i wait for wiring. Next time ask more questions and don't expect mcdonalds service from a custom fab wiring shop. WS and CB are production product shops (yes they do custom), if you want it now, they cater to people like you.

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And for the guy who said that he waited 1 1/2 yrs on a head... All I can do is smdh! Not even tony momo who happens to be undesputedly one of the most talented and sought after for head p&p takes that freaking long!

If you can wait 1 1/2 yrs for just some head work then you my friend deserve a holiday named after you or a medal... At least hug!!! That's a 1 1/2 yrs free interest loan you gave that guy to charge you top dollar for what he did for you.

I'm not sure about you but nobody but my best friend would give me a free interest loan because any other time I went to the bank for a loan they made it cristal clear how much I was gonna pay in interest and to do that for someone who I barely know and give him such a freeby?! I'm not sure I can afford to do that!

But then again I have to work for my living, so that may not apply to most people... Just saying!
haha, it was a race head that id already had work on and was waiting on it from GUDE. at the time he was incharge of the saturn drag program motors for GM and had much higher priorities than my silly little race head. I sent him my brand new condition head. kinda stuck when its sent across the country. if i had known it would take that long i would have done it myself. shit happens and you learn. and what i learned is if i EVER send anything out, dont expect it back anytime soon. so far its held true. So unless I am in no rush, i dont send things out to other people to have work done, unless i can goto the shop.

Only thing im stuck on custom trans work, everything else i can do myself. and in the case of wiring, well I just wasnt in a rush and JI does really good work that i didnt feel like doing. plus id already done a custom full chassis harness for my friends car in 2011 and wasnt looking to do another for a while.
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i care

sometimes it matters

sometimes it doesnt

if water gets inside a "sealed" connector, tell me how good it is.
I hear you there, I can relate 100% when it comes to quality. I am the guy who buys multipe of the same parts and inspect their quality myself before making my decision.

I was more directly referring to the plastic than the weatherproof insulation on the WS connectors. From what i have seen with the WS connectors they are nice quality and all have the proper materials for keeping dust/water out. Yury would definitely not put as much time and money into this project to make poor quality pieces. The only issue i noticed with all of the WS harnesses i have dealt with is that the lower harness came with a different connector on the positive side of the battery terminal.

If you are really concerned i am sure Yury would be happy to discuss it with you or send out a sample connector.
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