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layedoutat0psi · 03-26-2008, 09:36 PM

sorry if this is in the wrong section on this forum, i have just recently become a member on here and havnt learned of everything yet. and feel free to move this thread if it should be.

ok so i was thinkin about buying some 4 to 5 lug wheel adapters, but i wanted to find somone with some experince with them first. are they a bad idea? are they sturdy enough? my dad has a $hit load of ford wheels layin around the house that are really wide. all different styles and what not. but the main thing is that i wanted to kno are these things safe to run on a car that will ocasionally get drifted and be daily drivin. also my car is a 89 coupe.

Thanks for any help.
And again sorry if this is in the wrong section.
Andy.

shade · 03-26-2008, 10:55 PM

Ask yokotas13, I think he advertised some before I think. Doesn't hurt to ask but I'm pretty sure he can get some with considerable thickeness unlike those super thick ebay ones.

SW20Racer · 03-26-2008, 11:25 PM

everything in moderation. they shouldnt be a problem just go with something thats not crazy thick. i ordered 2" spacers though, just 'cause i can. some people will say they arent safe, i say meh...

GSXRJJordan · 03-26-2008, 11:28 PM

Yeah the argument is not whether the 4lug->5lug conversion is dangerous, it's whether the spacing is dangerous to the hub. The wheel generates a lot of torque on the hub, and that torque is magnified significantly when you move the wheel further away from the hub with a spacer.

That being said, I know tons of drifters that use 50mm (over 2") spacers. That doesn't mean it's good for your hubs, but the general consensus is that it won't be the thing that makes you total your car some day.

kdashy · 03-27-2008, 12:07 AM

Why would you want to go 5 lug on a spacer anyways?

People go 5 lug to get wheels with decent width and low offset.

With a huge spacer you'll have to get wheels with higher offset.

GSXRJJordan · 03-27-2008, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdashy

Why would you want to go 5 lug on a spacer anyways?

People go 5 lug to get wheels with decent width and low offset.

With a huge spacer you'll have to get wheels with higher offset.

Cmon... you know why...

$$$

projectRDM · 03-27-2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

the general consensus is that it won't be the thing that makes you total your car some day.

Sadly. Wish there was something made that would indeed guarantee a good totaling.

SILVIA_KIDs14.5 · 03-27-2008, 10:03 AM

to tell you the truth yeah you could do it was talking to my local shop about it and prices with me getting hooked up it still would have been like 400 per set so not really worth it might as well go 5 its bout the same any ways hope this helps.

ZX88 · 03-27-2008, 10:35 AM

dude 4 to 5 lug adapters are like2.5 inches thick what are you going to do run +45,50 wheels?

layedoutat0psi · 03-27-2008, 10:49 AM

well the whole reason for me doin this is i just orderd the b magic wide body, and the wheels i have now are only 18X7.5s and they wont be wide enough for me. and im afraid they will look funny.

kay_arsen · 03-27-2008, 11:23 AM

where can you get 4 to 5 adapters that are decent width ???? like small as possible. I'm looking for some but don't want 2 inch adapters

Dutchmalmiss · 03-27-2008, 11:33 AM

Unless there are 100mm or 120mm widebody panels out there, it wouldn't look good IMO.

*njd07* · 03-27-2008, 11:39 AM

anyone know where I can find 4x108 to 4x114.3 or 5x114.3 conversion spacers? need this for a 78' alfa romeo.

i need tires · 03-27-2008, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZX88

dude 4 to 5 lug adapters are like2.5 inches thick what are you going to do run +45,50 wheels?

FALSE why would a 4 to 5 lug spacer be 2.5inc thick when a bolt on spacer usually starts around 20mm... there is no difference just adding more holes lol

slideattack · 03-27-2008, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i need tires

FALSE why would a 4 to 5 lug spacer be 2.5inc thick when a bolt on spacer usually starts around 20mm... there is no difference just adding more holes lol

where can you find conversion adapters with a 20mm thickness?

GSXRJJordan · 03-27-2008, 12:33 PM

I've seen them (not online, in person) with a thickness about 30mm. And if he's running 18x7.5", they're most likely FWD wheels with FWD offsets, so yeah +40 is the norm. He'll be fine.

whiterps13 · 03-27-2008, 01:14 PM

Even if you space the living shit out of them, 18x7.5 on anything widebody IS going to look rediculous.

They look stupid on stock fenders.

Matej · 03-27-2008, 01:18 PM

You can have them custom made, the smallest would probably be 20mm or so, and I'm guessing it will cost about 60-80$ for a pair.
http://www.wheeladapter.com/home.asp

It's kind of cool because you can quickly and easily switch between 4 and 5-lug wheels.

DOOK · 03-27-2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZX88

dude 4 to 5 lug adapters are like2.5 inches thick what are you going to do run +45,50 wheels?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdashy

Why would you want to go 5 lug on a spacer anyways?

People go 5 lug to get wheels with decent width and low offset.

With a huge spacer you'll have to get wheels with higher offset.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slideattack

where can you find conversion adapters with a 20mm thickness?

project kics makes 15mm conversion spacers... gotta pay to play... now as for whether they are safe or not is a matter of opinion...

ZX88 · 03-27-2008, 01:30 PM

found these on ebay a while ago http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-LUG...6810QQtcZphoto

khoadogg · 03-27-2008, 01:35 PM

i had some 30mm adapters at one time. Felt fine, just didn't like the fact that there was somethere there you'd have to tighten and one extra thing that can come loose.

*!Zar!* · 03-27-2008, 01:49 PM

You all talk like the people who would be buying the 4 to 5 lug adapters will have money. If their ass is too broke to afford five lug and wheels as it stands now, what makes you think they will be able to afford the adapters and baller rims?

The people who would purchase this are no different than the people who purchase 4 lug bolt on spacers and incest looking rims.

Only difference is they will have better wheel selection.

ZX88 · 03-27-2008, 01:57 PM

eh its not like a 5 lug conversion cost that much anyways plus during the process you can upgrade your brakes.spacers are weak and probably not the safest things to have if you daily drive your car.

*!Zar!* · 03-27-2008, 02:12 PM

Driftfreq was selling conversion bolt on spacers a while back.

Stopped due to QC or something.

layedoutat0psi · 03-27-2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

You all talk like the people who would be buying the 4 to 5 lug adapters will have money. If their ass is too broke to afford five lug and wheels as it stands now, what makes you think they will be able to afford the adapters and baller rims?

The people who would purchase this are no different than the people who purchase 4 lug bolt on spacers and incest looking rims.

Only difference is they will have better wheel selection.

if you woulda read up above what i said, i said that my dad has a shit load of 5 lug wheels laying around the garage that i could prolly have for free. therefore all i would need is the price on adapters and id be all set

*!Zar!* · 03-27-2008, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layedoutat0psi

if you woulda read up above what i said, i said that my dad has a shit load of 5 lug wheels laying around the garage that i could prolly have for free. therefore all i would need is the price on adapters and id be all set

If YOU woulda read up above what I said, it was pertaining to people complaining about this not fitting aggressively sized wheels.

Now what does that horrible mess of a comment you just posted have to do with me?

layedoutat0psi · 03-27-2008, 04:35 PM

well if you ask me it sounds liek your talking badly about people that buy the adapters. and i was saying the reason why i wanted to do it cause i could get free wheels. not because i couldnt afford them. maybe its just me then. sorry if im wrong tho, i dont wanna start anything in here.
:hammer:

Matej · 03-27-2008, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZX88

spacers are weak and probably not the safest things to have if you daily drive your car.

I daily drive my car with 38mm and 25mm spacers stacked on top of each other.

03-26-2008, 09:36 PM	#1
layedoutat0psi Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: elmira, ny Age: 35 Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lug adapters? sorry if this is in the wrong section on this forum, i have just recently become a member on here and havnt learned of everything yet. and feel free to move this thread if it should be. ok so i was thinkin about buying some 4 to 5 lug wheel adapters, but i wanted to find somone with some experince with them first. are they a bad idea? are they sturdy enough? my dad has a $hit load of ford wheels layin around the house that are really wide. all different styles and what not. but the main thing is that i wanted to kno are these things safe to run on a car that will ocasionally get drifted and be daily drivin. also my car is a 89 coupe. Thanks for any help. And again sorry if this is in the wrong section. Andy.

03-26-2008, 10:55 PM	#2
shade Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego Age: 32 Posts: 509 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ask yokotas13, I think he advertised some before I think. Doesn't hurt to ask but I'm pretty sure he can get some with considerable thickeness unlike those super thick ebay ones. __________________

03-26-2008, 11:28 PM	#4
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Yeah the argument is not whether the 4lug->5lug conversion is dangerous, it's whether the spacing is dangerous to the hub. The wheel generates a lot of torque on the hub, and that torque is magnified significantly when you move the wheel further away from the hub with a spacer. That being said, I know tons of drifters that use 50mm (over 2") spacers. That doesn't mean it's good for your hubs, but the general consensus is that it won't be the thing that makes you total your car some day. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

03-27-2008, 12:07 AM	#5
kdashy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Been here longer than you bitch! Posts: 1,296 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why would you want to go 5 lug on a spacer anyways? People go 5 lug to get wheels with decent width and low offset. With a huge spacer you'll have to get wheels with higher offset. __________________

03-27-2008, 11:23 AM	#11
kay_arsen Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: kitchener Posts: 184 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	where can you get 4 to 5 adapters that are decent width ???? like small as possible. I'm looking for some but don't want 2 inch adapters __________________ ﻱ

03-26-2008, 11:25 PM	#3
SW20Racer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaumont Age: 36 Posts: 1,633 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	everything in moderation. they shouldnt be a problem just go with something thats not crazy thick. i ordered 2" spacers though, just 'cause i can. some people will say they arent safe, i say meh...

03-27-2008, 10:03 AM	#8
SILVIA_KIDs14.5 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: CT Age: 34 Posts: 368 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	to tell you the truth yeah you could do it was talking to my local shop about it and prices with me getting hooked up it still would have been like 400 per set so not really worth it might as well go 5 its bout the same any ways hope this helps.

03-27-2008, 10:35 AM	#9
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 32 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	dude 4 to 5 lug adapters are like2.5 inches thick what are you going to do run +45,50 wheels?

03-27-2008, 10:49 AM	#10
layedoutat0psi Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: elmira, ny Age: 35 Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well the whole reason for me doin this is i just orderd the b magic wide body, and the wheels i have now are only 18X7.5s and they wont be wide enough for me. and im afraid they will look funny.

03-27-2008, 11:33 AM	#12
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 35 Posts: 3,475 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Unless there are 100mm or 120mm widebody panels out there, it wouldn't look good IMO. __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

03-27-2008, 11:39 AM	#13
njd07 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: canada Age: 35 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	anyone know where I can find 4x108 to 4x114.3 or 5x114.3 conversion spacers? need this for a 78' alfa romeo. __________________ s13 parts fs:http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193416 sr parts fs: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193399 s14 parts fs:http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=193420 180sx part out http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=203711

03-27-2008, 12:33 PM	#16
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I've seen them (not online, in person) with a thickness about 30mm. And if he's running 18x7.5", they're most likely FWD wheels with FWD offsets, so yeah +40 is the norm. He'll be fine. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

03-27-2008, 01:14 PM	#17
whiterps13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Illinois Age: 33 Posts: 831 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Even if you space the living shit out of them, 18x7.5 on anything widebody IS going to look rediculous. They look stupid on stock fenders. __________________

03-27-2008, 01:18 PM	#18
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	You can have them custom made, the smallest would probably be 20mm or so, and I'm guessing it will cost about 60-80$ for a pair. http://www.wheeladapter.com/home.asp It's kind of cool because you can quickly and easily switch between 4 and 5-lug wheels.

03-27-2008, 01:30 PM	#20
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 32 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	found these on ebay a while ago http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-LUG...6810QQtcZphoto

03-27-2008, 01:35 PM	#21
khoadogg Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 38 Posts: 2,423 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	i had some 30mm adapters at one time. Felt fine, just didn't like the fact that there was somethere there you'd have to tighten and one extra thing that can come loose. __________________ AIM SoarinStrong[B]STRONG 6iX[B] RB single turbo ///Work AMKREAD 180sx

03-27-2008, 01:49 PM	#22
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	You all talk like the people who would be buying the 4 to 5 lug adapters will have money. If their ass is too broke to afford five lug and wheels as it stands now, what makes you think they will be able to afford the adapters and baller rims? The people who would purchase this are no different than the people who purchase 4 lug bolt on spacers and incest looking rims. Only difference is they will have better wheel selection. __________________

03-27-2008, 01:57 PM	#23
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 32 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	eh its not like a 5 lug conversion cost that much anyways plus during the process you can upgrade your brakes.spacers are weak and probably not the safest things to have if you daily drive your car.

03-27-2008, 02:12 PM	#24
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Driftfreq was selling conversion bolt on spacers a while back. Stopped due to QC or something. __________________

03-27-2008, 04:35 PM	#27
layedoutat0psi Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: elmira, ny Age: 35 Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well if you ask me it sounds liek your talking badly about people that buy the adapters. and i was saying the reason why i wanted to do it cause i could get free wheels. not because i couldnt afford them. maybe its just me then. sorry if im wrong tho, i dont wanna start anything in here. :hammer:

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