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TanabeUSA · 06-20-2005, 06:34 PM

Hello Zilvia

This thread will be for discussion of the Tanabe Sustec Pro DD's for the 89-94 S13, and 95-98 S14. Hopefully, this will help answer any questions people may have about this particular suspension, and will show up when users new and old use the SEARCH function to look for info on the one and only, original drift spec, the Sustec Pro DD.

The basic overview is found here:
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/d-d.asp

Any questions, please feel free to ask us! Or send email to [email protected]

***S14DB*** · 06-20-2005, 06:43 PM

Will these make me drift?

TanabeUSA · 06-20-2005, 07:26 PM

Hello S14DB

The DD's will not make you drift, nor will any adjustable suspension, this is all dependent on the driver.

If you do decide to use these for drifting applications, these were specifically designed several years ago to handle the added abuse resulting from that type of driving. The true definition behind our 'Drift Spec' is in the build quality and reliability, as drifting is arguably the most destructive type of driving your can subject your car to. This is a very rugged suspension.

The DD's are excellent for standard grip oriented driving, which is evidenced in the spring rates, which promote a high level of traction. Drifting is a matter of controlling/controllable traction.

smellslikecurry · 06-20-2005, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Will these make me drift?

haha...i dont think they picked up the sarcasm...

on-topic...you should post the specs...spring rate and etc...i might pick these up for my z cuz im the uber driftorrrrrr and i r0x0rz

cheez80 · 06-20-2005, 07:55 PM

iirc, 10/8k spring rates, with helper spring in the rear.

it's on the link posted, under application charts.

enen11 · 06-20-2005, 08:02 PM

just wanted to know hows the dampening of the dd's compared to the pro ss. I'm riding on the pro ss right now, set at recommended dampening rate F:2/R:4 and it's stiff at certain times.
i guess the pro ss is more towards street driven since it's installed on stock rubber mounts. but i would have opted for the pro dd's since pro ss + f/r pillowball mounts comes out to the same as pro dd's price.
but all in all, the pro ss is still a great suspension upgrade

Dousan_PG · 06-20-2005, 08:29 PM

how tight should one make the helper spring/preload
i was adjusting mine tonight and my lower bracket rear is stuck. ill unstuck it later, ithink got some nasty grit in their.

i love my Tanabe DD btw. hehe..so comfy!

oh i will read other thread shortly but rebuild info please?

drifting=grip

Wiisass · 06-20-2005, 08:31 PM

Do you have dyno curves for the DD shocks? I would be very interested to see them if you do.

Tim

sideview_180sx · 06-20-2005, 11:47 PM

<<<< DD jealousy I want them so badly, rode in BH car with the zeals OMG so freaking glorious, aaron im so jealous of how you car must feel like with the dd's hehe. oh yah, BH still thinks you, richard and I are crazy for wanting those lights you picked up.

Project D · 06-21-2005, 11:44 PM

I would buy these if they were cheaper. Hell, if I could get a set of DDs for around 1300-1400 dollars, I would do it. By the way, how much for all the cars sitting in your garage Tanabe USA??? Hahahaha, you never know what people are selling nowadays............

Giant Robot · 06-22-2005, 12:10 AM

Tanabe DD's are alread priced pretty well....
for the price they do a lot more and feel better than when i had Cusco Comp Zero 2's which cost about $500 more

trsilvias13 · 06-22-2005, 12:18 AM

so how bout that group buy now? hehe. i would like to see that

Logan · 06-22-2005, 12:00 PM

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...925#post748925

There's already a special going on the Tanabe DD's in the Advertiser's section.

$1580 for DD's, lowest price i've seen yet

Andrew Bohan · 06-22-2005, 12:22 PM

that's not a bad price at all. i'd get em if they had em for FC

trsilvias13 · 06-22-2005, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masashi

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...925#post748925

There's already a special going on the Tanabe DD's in the Advertiser's section.

$1580 for DD's, lowest price i've seen yet

i seen it . with tax cuz im a cali residetn it will become like 1636.18 i would buy it if it was 1500 flat

kandyflip445 · 06-23-2005, 02:13 AM

Cheap ass. If you're dropping 1500 what's another 136.18?

Var · 06-23-2005, 03:23 AM

I was literally going to buy these last week, but 2 days before i bought em i decided to part out my car.

I would also like to see some shock dyno numbers. Then we can compare with the Tein Superdrift which also have 10/8 rates. (Assuming we can get a hold of either shockdyno results)

Start rant

I dont like the fact that most manufacturers dont put out shock dyno results for their stuff. I know most people wouldnt even understand it, but some of us do, and my only assumptions are that

1-they think we're too stupid to care
2-people would be appalled at what they saw and go with something different.

Shock dynoes are especially important because people are subjective. For example..I've read Dousan say more than once that the valving on Tein HE's isn't strong enough even on full stiff...well? I dunno what he's comparing them to. Are they just completely too weak even for the 8/6 rates? If so they why do people throw 9/7 springs on them . I have friends that use HE's that say they are fine.. But then again they are the only coilovers they have used. So what are they comparing them to? i dunno. Maybe i can go search for them..but they should be right there on Tein's website. A different dyno for each shock , and furthermore for each application, being that they are a top seller at the moment. The shock is what we're paying for anyways.

I'm using Tein as an example only because so many freakin people buy them.

Kuah from SPL parts did a great job selling the KTS to Zilvia. He put out numbers..even if they are from a Z32 shock. At least it's something to look at. Kudos to Tanabe for posting here and getting feedback. It let's us know that you give a crap.

bcrume · 07-13-2005, 01:04 PM

actually the price in california would be 1702.45, If there was a groupbuy today (preferably out of california), I would definitely pick up a pair

OptionZero · 07-13-2005, 03:10 PM

They are out of stock for S14, sadly...but you s13 people can find 'em.

06-20-2005, 06:34 PM	#1
TanabeUSA Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The authoritative Tanabe Sustec Pro DD double delightful thread! Hello Zilvia This thread will be for discussion of the Tanabe Sustec Pro DD's for the 89-94 S13, and 95-98 S14. Hopefully, this will help answer any questions people may have about this particular suspension, and will show up when users new and old use the SEARCH function to look for info on the one and only, original drift spec, the Sustec Pro DD. The basic overview is found here: http://www.tanabe-usa.com/coilovers/d-d.asp Any questions, please feel free to ask us! Or send email to [email protected] __________________ Tanabe Racing Development USA http://www.tanabe-usa.com The premier exhaust, chassis and suspension tuner! Now for RMS13, RPS13, S13, S14, S15, and anything Nissan!

06-20-2005, 06:43 PM	#2
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Will these make me drift? __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

06-20-2005, 07:26 PM	#3
TanabeUSA Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hello S14DB The DD's will not make you drift, nor will any adjustable suspension, this is all dependent on the driver. If you do decide to use these for drifting applications, these were specifically designed several years ago to handle the added abuse resulting from that type of driving. The true definition behind our 'Drift Spec' is in the build quality and reliability, as drifting is arguably the most destructive type of driving your can subject your car to. This is a very rugged suspension. The DD's are excellent for standard grip oriented driving, which is evidenced in the spring rates, which promote a high level of traction. Drifting is a matter of controlling/controllable traction. __________________ Tanabe Racing Development USA http://www.tanabe-usa.com The premier exhaust, chassis and suspension tuner! Now for RMS13, RPS13, S13, S14, S15, and anything Nissan!

06-20-2005, 08:29 PM	#7
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	how tight should one make the helper spring/preload i was adjusting mine tonight and my lower bracket rear is stuck. ill unstuck it later, ithink got some nasty grit in their. i love my Tanabe DD btw. hehe..so comfy! oh i will read other thread shortly but rebuild info please? drifting=grip __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-20-2005, 08:31 PM	#8
Wiisass Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Philly Posts: 486 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do you have dyno curves for the DD shocks? I would be very interested to see them if you do. Tim __________________ TIP Engineering R/T Tuning Drift and RWD Sport DriftAssNation

06-20-2005, 07:55 PM	#5
cheez80 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cali Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	iirc, 10/8k spring rates, with helper spring in the rear. it's on the link posted, under application charts.

06-20-2005, 08:02 PM	#6
enen11 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: 240sx Posts: 184 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just wanted to know hows the dampening of the dd's compared to the pro ss. I'm riding on the pro ss right now, set at recommended dampening rate F:2/R:4 and it's stiff at certain times. i guess the pro ss is more towards street driven since it's installed on stock rubber mounts. but i would have opted for the pro dd's since pro ss + f/r pillowball mounts comes out to the same as pro dd's price. but all in all, the pro ss is still a great suspension upgrade

06-20-2005, 11:47 PM	#9
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	<<<< DD jealousy I want them so badly, rode in BH car with the zeals OMG so freaking glorious, aaron im so jealous of how you car must feel like with the dd's hehe. oh yah, BH still thinks you, richard and I are crazy for wanting those lights you picked up. __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

06-21-2005, 11:44 PM	#10
Project D Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Junction, CO Age: 36 Posts: 179 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would buy these if they were cheaper. Hell, if I could get a set of DDs for around 1300-1400 dollars, I would do it. By the way, how much for all the cars sitting in your garage Tanabe USA??? Hahahaha, you never know what people are selling nowadays............

06-22-2005, 12:10 AM	#11
Giant Robot Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bucketheadland Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tanabe DD's are alread priced pretty well.... for the price they do a lot more and feel better than when i had Cusco Comp Zero 2's which cost about $500 more

06-22-2005, 12:18 AM	#12
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,984 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	so how bout that group buy now? hehe. i would like to see that

06-22-2005, 12:00 PM	#13
Logan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: OC, California Posts: 332 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...925#post748925 There's already a special going on the Tanabe DD's in the Advertiser's section. $1580 for DD's, lowest price i've seen yet

06-22-2005, 12:22 PM	#14
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	that's not a bad price at all. i'd get em if they had em for FC

06-23-2005, 02:13 AM	#16
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 36 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Cheap ass. If you're dropping 1500 what's another 136.18? __________________ My 240 vBgarage

06-23-2005, 03:23 AM	#17
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 39 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was literally going to buy these last week, but 2 days before i bought em i decided to part out my car. I would also like to see some shock dyno numbers. Then we can compare with the Tein Superdrift which also have 10/8 rates. (Assuming we can get a hold of either shockdyno results) Start rant I dont like the fact that most manufacturers dont put out shock dyno results for their stuff. I know most people wouldnt even understand it, but some of us do, and my only assumptions are that 1-they think we're too stupid to care 2-people would be appalled at what they saw and go with something different. Shock dynoes are especially important because people are subjective. For example..I've read Dousan say more than once that the valving on Tein HE's isn't strong enough even on full stiff...well? I dunno what he's comparing them to. Are they just completely too weak even for the 8/6 rates? If so they why do people throw 9/7 springs on them . I have friends that use HE's that say they are fine.. But then again they are the only coilovers they have used. So what are they comparing them to? i dunno. Maybe i can go search for them..but they should be right there on Tein's website. A different dyno for each shock , and furthermore for each application, being that they are a top seller at the moment. The shock is what we're paying for anyways. I'm using Tein as an example only because so many freakin people buy them. Kuah from SPL parts did a great job selling the KTS to Zilvia. He put out numbers..even if they are from a Z32 shock. At least it's something to look at. Kudos to Tanabe for posting here and getting feedback. It let's us know that you give a crap. __________________ Hi

07-13-2005, 01:04 PM	#18
bcrume Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	actually the price in california would be 1702.45, If there was a groupbuy today (preferably out of california), I would definitely pick up a pair

07-13-2005, 03:10 PM	#19
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	They are out of stock for S14, sadly...but you s13 people can find 'em.

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