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Schassis707 · 03-22-2010, 01:02 AM

i was recently at a local meet and another 240 guy told me about a cheap mod which is taking another KADe exhaust cam and switching it for the intake cam...Is this possible? If so are there any gains? Porblems? LMK it sounds very different yet kinda interesting?

importdude · 03-22-2010, 01:48 AM

basically you use the s13 de exhaust cam on your intake side and move 4 teeth left on the gear/chain

search 248 cam

project-D180 · 03-23-2010, 09:38 PM

set your valve lash tighter 8-10 intake or both sides/9-11 exhaust so u can get the full effect of those cams,even with the stock cam set up it will wake them up alot

Schassis707 · 03-23-2010, 11:44 PM

Ok I've looked into it more and I have a chance to get a 91 exhaust cam and my KADE is a 92, are they the same duration or would I have to get a 92??

n8RPS13 · 03-24-2010, 12:00 AM

I heard they are different but it could be just 240 folklore..... I never really looked into it.

Schassis707 · 03-24-2010, 12:31 PM

yea cuz i heard that too but i have been looking into it and i get it from both sides saying it different and the same. most of it was just the difference in the 94 s13 cams and the 91-93 cams but idk its not much work if it works that would be sick if not... well that would just suck..

projectRDM · 03-24-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Schassis707

Ok I've looked into it more and I have a chance to get a 91 exhaust cam and my KADE is a 92, are they the same duration or would I have to get a 92??

We've discussed this since 1991. There is no reason you can't find the information if you bother looking for it.

The 1991-mid 1993 cams are all the same, 240/248. Later '93s without the SCVs and all 1994 models use the S14 cams, 232/232.

Schassis707 · 03-24-2010, 01:34 PM

Ok like I said I did do research and both sides were a toss up, it's not like I didn't do research, if ur gonna be negative and not help out than keep that shit to yourself I posted the thread for simple fact of I didn't know about this, or 240s, I used to be into hondas but they just come and go. So if u not gonna help that just stfu n keep it to yourself

GroundPerformance · 03-24-2010, 01:46 PM

To the OP. It's the S13 Exhaust Cam can be used as an Intake Cam. The Main thing is you need to do a mod on the cam gear for it to be properly timed. FYI Don't mind him He get's satisfaction when does that. Check his posts.. Let the guy have his fun. LOL!

Schassis707 · 03-24-2010, 01:53 PM

Lol I no people do that just for fun, but it's irritating I'm just trying to find out more about it... But back to the subject, I've hear of people either moving the gear 4 teeth and others drilling out other holes in the gear itself, which is better? And are there any problems with this upgrade? The only problems I found were just mistakes from the people not timing them right, and just the simple fact of losing the low end tq

GroundPerformance · 03-24-2010, 02:02 PM

Drilling to the gear is the best way. Check JWT site there should be template you can copy to do the mod.

Schassis707 · 03-24-2010, 02:11 PM

I checked out Jim wolf and couldn't find anything but the newer stuff, yet I was doing it on my phone, so that could be y. Which "stock" cam upgrade do u prefer? I've been looking into the 248/232 and heard it's good for the mid and high, but what is the exhaust cam used for the 248/240 upgrade? I read somewhere it is an exhaust cam not just taking them and switching them lol

projectRDM · 03-24-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Schassis707

Ok like I said I did do research and both sides were a toss up, it's not like I didn't do research, if ur gonna be negative and not help out than keep that shit to yourself I posted the thread for simple fact of I didn't know about this, or 240s, I used to be into hondas but they just come and go. So if u not gonna help that just stfu n keep it to yourself

I did help, asshole, and was very positive about it too. Can you not read my post? I told you exactly what you needed to know. Sorry if I didn't hold your hand and coddle your balls while answering it, that's not how we do things here. Ask a question, get an answer. Done.

So in the future, don't ask questions if you don't want answers.

Schassis707 · 03-24-2010, 04:07 PM

Lmao OK just grow up.. U did help clarify some points I'll give u that, but u just seem like that guy that never gives any respect to anyone cleary shown ^ up there, find a girl and get laid it might relieve some tension u seem to have

projectRDM · 03-24-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Schassis707

Lmao OK just grow up.. U did help clarify some points I'll give u that, but u just seem like that guy that never gives any respect to anyone cleary shown ^ up there, find a girl and get laid it might relieve some tension u seem to have

I have a lovely girlfriend, thanks.

But you're right, I don't give respect to anyone who doesn't earn it. Being lazy, not researching an obviously two decade old subject, then crying about it when you get the answer isn't the way to earn respect on here.

Schassis707 · 03-25-2010, 01:45 AM

I did research but it just kept going mostly on opinion, and never found any problems it could have except for amatuers not knowing how to follow simple directions lol, if someone has already done it over n over and has told u specifically what to do, how hard is it to fuck up the upgrade?!! I pretty much got what I need to know, just wanna know bout the other cam swaps as far as powerband wise. I know the specs on them just wanna know actual experience with the swap

03-22-2010, 01:02 AM	#1
Schassis707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: vacaville,CA Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	KADE Dual exhaust cam upgrade??? i was recently at a local meet and another 240 guy told me about a cheap mod which is taking another KADe exhaust cam and switching it for the intake cam...Is this possible? If so are there any gains? Porblems? LMK it sounds very different yet kinda interesting?

03-22-2010, 01:48 AM	#2
importdude Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: san j0 Posts: 1,381 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	basically you use the s13 de exhaust cam on your intake side and move 4 teeth left on the gear/chain search 248 cam __________________ built ka-t

03-24-2010, 01:46 PM	#9
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	To the OP. It's the S13 Exhaust Cam can be used as an Intake Cam. The Main thing is you need to do a mod on the cam gear for it to be properly timed. FYI Don't mind him He get's satisfaction when does that. Check his posts.. Let the guy have his fun. LOL! __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

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GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	Drilling to the gear is the best way. Check JWT site there should be template you can copy to do the mod. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

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03-23-2010, 09:38 PM	#3
project-D180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: south caroloina Posts: 987 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	set your valve lash tighter 8-10 intake or both sides/9-11 exhaust so u can get the full effect of those cams,even with the stock cam set up it will wake them up alot

03-23-2010, 11:44 PM	#4
Schassis707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: vacaville,CA Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Ok I've looked into it more and I have a chance to get a 91 exhaust cam and my KADE is a 92, are they the same duration or would I have to get a 92??

03-24-2010, 12:00 AM	#5
n8RPS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New Smyrna Beach Posts: 1,285 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	I heard they are different but it could be just 240 folklore..... I never really looked into it.

03-24-2010, 12:31 PM	#6
Schassis707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: vacaville,CA Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	yea cuz i heard that too but i have been looking into it and i get it from both sides saying it different and the same. most of it was just the difference in the 94 s13 cams and the 91-93 cams but idk its not much work if it works that would be sick if not... well that would just suck..

03-24-2010, 01:34 PM	#8
Schassis707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: vacaville,CA Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Ok like I said I did do research and both sides were a toss up, it's not like I didn't do research, if ur gonna be negative and not help out than keep that shit to yourself I posted the thread for simple fact of I didn't know about this, or 240s, I used to be into hondas but they just come and go. So if u not gonna help that just stfu n keep it to yourself

03-24-2010, 01:53 PM	#10
Schassis707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: vacaville,CA Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Lol I no people do that just for fun, but it's irritating I'm just trying to find out more about it... But back to the subject, I've hear of people either moving the gear 4 teeth and others drilling out other holes in the gear itself, which is better? And are there any problems with this upgrade? The only problems I found were just mistakes from the people not timing them right, and just the simple fact of losing the low end tq

03-24-2010, 02:11 PM	#12
Schassis707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: vacaville,CA Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I checked out Jim wolf and couldn't find anything but the newer stuff, yet I was doing it on my phone, so that could be y. Which "stock" cam upgrade do u prefer? I've been looking into the 248/232 and heard it's good for the mid and high, but what is the exhaust cam used for the 248/240 upgrade? I read somewhere it is an exhaust cam not just taking them and switching them lol

03-24-2010, 04:07 PM	#14
Schassis707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: vacaville,CA Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Lmao OK just grow up.. U did help clarify some points I'll give u that, but u just seem like that guy that never gives any respect to anyone cleary shown ^ up there, find a girl and get laid it might relieve some tension u seem to have

03-25-2010, 01:45 AM	#16
Schassis707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: vacaville,CA Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I did research but it just kept going mostly on opinion, and never found any problems it could have except for amatuers not knowing how to follow simple directions lol, if someone has already done it over n over and has told u specifically what to do, how hard is it to fuck up the upgrade?!! I pretty much got what I need to know, just wanna know bout the other cam swaps as far as powerband wise. I know the specs on them just wanna know actual experience with the swap