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*LanceS13* · 03-10-2004, 04:55 PM

You can't legally stay in DSP with bigger brakes...then again, you can't legally stay in DSP with subframe spacers.
STX is a street tire only class...although the Azenis (which is what I'm guessing they're running) are pretty close to being R tires. Given it's a street tire class, STX should actually be a slower class than DSP.

Mr_Nice_Guy · 03-10-2004, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LanceS13

You can't legally stay in DSP with bigger brakes...then again, you can't legally stay in DSP with subframe spacers.
STX is a street tire only class...although the Azenis (which is what I'm guessing they're running) are pretty close to being R tires. Given it's a street tire class, STX should actually be a slower class than DSP.

Awsome, thanks for the info. I will just sign up for STX and see if they will just keep me there or move me around.

jy116 · 03-10-2004, 10:29 PM

Yeh, represent G-Stock! I just got to this post by searching 205/50/15. Wondering if thats too low profile for s13s.
I did my first event with .45F/.55R camber, .03F/.05R toe on 205/60/15s Kumho KH11s on wet pavement, bad shocks, leaky tension rod bushings, and auto tranny. Yeh, it sucked but Im hardcore like that. Was never in the right gear so I dont know how it would be with less diameter drive wheels... BUT thats the only size Azenis comes close to s13 stock size :/

I plan to get some AGXs, NISMO t/c bushings, and ST sways [only front since rears not allowed in stock class], and those 205/55/15 Azenis if I dont hear anything bad about that diameter. I have a VLSD to put on too. Should be more competitive that way, i think a Mini S is the fastest GS-N [im in SF Region]

Rennen · 03-10-2004, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jy116

Yeh, represent G-Stock! Woo... I just got to this post by searching 205/50/15. Wondering if thats too low profile for s13s.

Hey,

I run "205"/50/15 Azenis in G Stock class.

Pros:
Shorter gearing for better acceleration, shorter sidewalls for better handling, it actually lowers the total CG of your car a bit, less rotational mass, Falken's "205" size is actually closer to 225

Cons:
silly amounts of wheelgap on stock suspension, shorter gearing on fast courses(might have to shift into 3rd), shorter gearing on highway(worse gas mileage)

Here are the Azenis on my car after a KC autocross:

if the pic doesn't work because imagestation is gay, copy and paste this into your browser:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...8.jpg.orig.jpg

-Matt

jy116 · 03-10-2004, 10:59 PM

WOW looks good! I have teardrops too! 6 actually, and 4 steelies, so the 205/15s will only see autoX. Dont wash ur teardrops for a while, they look good with a tint of brake dust. :]

Rennen · 03-10-2004, 11:08 PM

Thanks, those teardrops are my "track" wheels also, so I doubt they will get much brake dust anytime soon. I think they(the tires) look rediculous. For reference, here is a pic with 205/60/15s on my 7 spokes.

link: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...5.jpg.orig.jpg

-Matt

jy116 · 03-11-2004, 12:21 AM

yeh, but who cares about looks when ur having fun attacking cones! Plus my cars pretty ugly, oxidizing, previous owners cheap paint, and all.
I meant that the tires on the teardrops looks good, pretty solid and stiff lookin. The gap is... ghastly, but the best way to make it look right is at least 16s and a +20 or so offset IMO ;] In my near future hopefully.

gogeeta13 · 03-11-2004, 07:00 AM

What do my fellow 240sx owners think of the Sumitomo HTR200. They are dirt cheap, and from what I have read elsewhere, a fantasticly sticky tire. They come in 215/60 too, making them nice and wide, with the right diamter!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....eModel=HTR+200

*LanceS13* · 03-11-2004, 10:08 AM

I'm having a hard time associating "380 treadwear" with "fantasticly sticky". They might be decent street tires, but I wouldn't count on them being competitive in autox. Also, 215/60/15's are about 1" taller than stock 195/60/15's...so you loose some gearing, too.

gogeeta13 · 03-11-2004, 11:57 AM

What other "budget" tires would you guys recommend, then?

*HaLo* · 03-11-2004, 12:25 PM

Best budget tires are Falken Azenis...

gogeeta13 · 03-11-2004, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaLo

Best budget tires are Falken Azenis...

....

I dont want to run tires that have such a different diameter, the gearing of them would force me to possibly dip into 3rd gear on the straight away at the course we run a lot.

Are they any other possibilities?

*HaLo* · 03-11-2004, 01:43 PM

Falken FK-451, Yokohama ES100, Kumho Ecsta MX...

240 OR DIE · 03-17-2004, 10:13 PM

#38 STS www.delta-scca.org

mods:
Injen CAI
Apexi N1 Dual
ASP Crank Pulley
KYB AGX
RSR Down Springs
OBX Lower Tie Bar
AR 17x7 (Wanna be Fast) Rims
225/45/17 Azenis ST115 (Front)
225/45/17 Azenis Sports (Rear)
VLSD
1 Heavy Foot

Replicant_S14 · 03-18-2004, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Nice_Guy

I was reading the listing up there and it said I would be in STX which in Atlanta is people who run race tires and are way way way more modded than me.

There are no STX drivers in Atl on r compound tires.

Also, any one of the top five finishers in STS would have won STX if they had registered for that class. I was 7th in a field of 31 STS drivers and I would have placed second had I run STX.

Don't fear STX.

The top DSP finisher in atl was only 1/10th faster than the top STS finisher.

DuffMan · 03-18-2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogeeta13

What do my fellow 240sx owners think of the Sumitomo HTR200. They are dirt cheap, and from what I have read elsewhere, a fantasticly sticky tire. They come in 215/60 too, making them nice and wide, with the right diamter!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....eModel=HTR+200

I have those, they arent that sticky really. They also get greasey, but their okay for an autox lap. They are a good street tire, with occassional autox. Not good for open track days or HPDE at all.

They do have a nice, predictable break away though. They wear very slowly which is nice for saving your $$. Keep in mind, they only come with 8/32 of tread instead of the normal 10/32. Treadware ratings dont take this into account.

All in all, I sort of wish I had spent the extra $ for ES100's. With all the daily driving, and long trips I do in my car, the HTR200's are definitely turning out to be a good bang for my buck, but ES100's will be next for me.

S13FREEAAK · 03-18-2004, 08:33 PM

Her is my parts list I am hoping to get for my 91 s13, not doing it competitively, just for fun:
-D Stage coilovers
-Uras exhaust
-pilot strut bars
-Kosei K1s
-dunno witch tires to use
-ST sways
-Maybe bushings, brakes?

Joe

03-10-2004, 04:55 PM	#31
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 39 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You can't legally stay in DSP with bigger brakes...then again, you can't legally stay in DSP with subframe spacers. STX is a street tire only class...although the Azenis (which is what I'm guessing they're running) are pretty close to being R tires. Given it's a street tire class, STX should actually be a slower class than DSP. __________________ 1992 240SX Fastback #47 DSP MS SCCA RX-7 ITS Project FOR SALE

03-10-2004, 10:29 PM	#33
jy116 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, CALifornia Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeh, represent G-Stock! I just got to this post by searching 205/50/15. Wondering if thats too low profile for s13s. I did my first event with .45F/.55R camber, .03F/.05R toe on 205/60/15s Kumho KH11s on wet pavement, bad shocks, leaky tension rod bushings, and auto tranny. Yeh, it sucked but Im hardcore like that. Was never in the right gear so I dont know how it would be with less diameter drive wheels... BUT thats the only size Azenis comes close to s13 stock size :/ I plan to get some AGXs, NISMO t/c bushings, and ST sways [only front since rears not allowed in stock class], and those 205/55/15 Azenis if I dont hear anything bad about that diameter. I have a VLSD to put on too. Should be more competitive that way, i think a Mini S is the fastest GS-N [im in SF Region] __________________ KYB AGX w/ dust boots $500obo... sadly serious

03-10-2004, 10:59 PM	#35
jy116 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, CALifornia Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WOW looks good! I have teardrops too! 6 actually, and 4 steelies, so the 205/15s will only see autoX. Dont wash ur teardrops for a while, they look good with a tint of brake dust. :] __________________ KYB AGX w/ dust boots $500obo... sadly serious

03-10-2004, 11:08 PM	#36
Rennen Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: WichitAr, KS Age: 38 Posts: 877 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Rennen Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks, those teardrops are my "track" wheels also, so I doubt they will get much brake dust anytime soon. I think they(the tires) look rediculous. For reference, here is a pic with 205/60/15s on my 7 spokes. link: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...5.jpg.orig.jpg -Matt __________________ '89 Nissan 240SX fastback: #23 DSP/RallyMod2/Track Slut '95 BMW 540i 6 speed: Ultimate Commuting Machine PFM Racing www.solo2.org www.midwest240sx.com

03-11-2004, 12:21 AM	#37
jy116 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, CALifornia Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeh, but who cares about looks when ur having fun attacking cones! Plus my cars pretty ugly, oxidizing, previous owners cheap paint, and all. I meant that the tires on the teardrops looks good, pretty solid and stiff lookin. The gap is... ghastly, but the best way to make it look right is at least 16s and a +20 or so offset IMO ;] In my near future hopefully. __________________ KYB AGX w/ dust boots $500obo... sadly serious

03-11-2004, 07:00 AM	#38
gogeeta13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What do my fellow 240sx owners think of the Sumitomo HTR200. They are dirt cheap, and from what I have read elsewhere, a fantasticly sticky tire. They come in 215/60 too, making them nice and wide, with the right diamter! http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....eModel=HTR+200

03-11-2004, 10:08 AM	#39
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 39 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm having a hard time associating "380 treadwear" with "fantasticly sticky". They might be decent street tires, but I wouldn't count on them being competitive in autox. Also, 215/60/15's are about 1" taller than stock 195/60/15's...so you loose some gearing, too. __________________ 1992 240SX Fastback #47 DSP MS SCCA RX-7 ITS Project FOR SALE

03-11-2004, 11:57 AM	#40
gogeeta13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What other "budget" tires would you guys recommend, then?

03-11-2004, 12:25 PM	#41
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 42 Posts: 5,199 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Best budget tires are Falken Azenis... __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Driver: '08 Fiji Blue Honda Civic Si SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

03-11-2004, 01:43 PM	#43
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 42 Posts: 5,199 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Falken FK-451, Yokohama ES100, Kumho Ecsta MX... __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Driver: '08 Fiji Blue Honda Civic Si SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

03-17-2004, 10:13 PM	#44
240 OR DIE Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 261 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	#38 STS www.delta-scca.org mods: Injen CAI Apexi N1 Dual ASP Crank Pulley KYB AGX RSR Down Springs OBX Lower Tie Bar AR 17x7 (Wanna be Fast) Rims 225/45/17 Azenis ST115 (Front) 225/45/17 Azenis Sports (Rear) VLSD 1 Heavy Foot __________________ Signature Exceeds 400x200 Maximum Limits set by the User Agreement!!

03-18-2004, 08:33 PM	#47
S13FREEAAK Drifterella Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,435 Trader Rating: (14) Rides Gallery: S13FREEAAK Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Her is my parts list I am hoping to get for my 91 s13, not doing it competitively, just for fun: -D Stage coilovers -Uras exhaust -pilot strut bars -Kosei K1s -dunno witch tires to use -ST sways -Maybe bushings, brakes? Joe

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