Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Go Back   Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum > Specific Topics > Archive and FAQs

Archive and FAQs Archives and Frequently Asked Questions about the 240SX are in here.


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2007, 05:59 PM   #1
nightkid86
Leaky Injector
 
nightkid86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 57
Trader Rating: (0)
nightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nice
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
S14 Auto-> Manual with pics

I had posted this on 240sxforums, Club240, and NICO, figured you guys could use it too, It's a litte summer project I did:

Auto to Manual in an OBDII S14 - With Pictures

First off, the big question: This swap cost about $400 - 500 for everything (parts, oil, lube, special tools, wire) if you do it yourself

In this writeup, two different cars were having the conversion done simultaneously. One is Matt’s ’98 starfire blue S14, the other is my ’97 cobalt green S14. The procedure was basically the same for both cars, and some pictures may jump from one car to the other. The procedure is the same for OBDI cars except OBDI cars to not require the a Crank Angle Sensor. The parts necessary for the swaps were obtained from 2 separate OBDII ’96 S14s. OBDI transmissions could have been used, but a mount would have to be drilled for the CAS, and we didn’t want to worry about that. The conversions were carried out in my 2 ½ car garage using jackstands and basic tools. I will try to provide as many pictures as possible. This writeup will be broken down into the following categories:

Parts Needed
Tools Needed
Procedure – Auto Removal
Procedure – Manual Install
Wiring
Results
ECU Swapping

WARNING:
Before you start I suggest you read this entire writeup, and search for others - you will want all the info you can get. Also, plan on this taking longer than you think - some bolts are extremly hard to get to or break loose - and the transmissions are heavy and hard to stab in. You will need patience. Do not sacrifice safety for getting it done quickly. Although a 240sx only weighs 2800 lbs, it only takes 15 lbs of pressure applied correctly to break the human skull.

PARTS NEEDED:
5 speed transmission from an S14 (you could try an s13 if you want)
5 speed Driveshaft front and rear sections (this may differ if you have ABS/LSD)
Flywheel (new or resurfaced)
M/T flywheel bolts (A/T bolts are too short)
Clutch Kit (Clutch, Throwout bearing, Pressure Plate, alignment tool)
Shifter assembly (plate, lower rubber boot, upper leather boot, finisher plate)
5 speed Crossmember
Clutch Master cylinder
Clutch Slave cylinder
Clutch hardlines
Clutch rubber line and dampener line (which you may want to remove anyways)
Clutch pedal assembly
5 Speed Brake pedal assembly or a cut brake pedal (automatic pedal is much larger)
Bellhousing bolts for a 5 speed bellhousing (some of the A/T bolts can be reused)
Bolts to hold Pressure Plate to Flywheel (same thread as bolts that hold shifter to transmission, but a tad shorter)

TOOLS NEEDED:
(Metric)
Wrench Set (ratcheting wrenches come in handy, so do abstruction wrenches)
Socket Set (with plenty of extensions)
Breaker Bars
Torque Wrench
Vice Grips
Jackstands
Floor Jacks
Scissor Jacks (to help support stuff under the car – you don’t have to fit the big bar under also)
Pilot Bearing puller (can be rented at Autozone)
Slide Hammer for Pilot Bearing Puller (can be rented at Autozone)
Loctite
RTV Gasket Maker
Propane Torch :blowtorch to break loose flywheel bolts (can be bought at Autozone)
Wire Strippers
Wire Cutters
Wire Connectors
16 guage wire (A few different colors - may be able to reuse what you take out of the car)
Wire Connectors
A few friends (Asian ones with small fingers help)
Factory Service Manual (can be d/led on some sites)
PB Blaster
Gear Oil 75W90
Brake fluid or clutch fluid (same thing)
Dremel with cutting bits
Power drill with metal cutting bits
Hole Saw 1 3/8th's inch
Carb Cleaner (to clean off flywheel)

Procedure – Auto Removal
1. Put the car up on jackstands as high as you can get it (you will need to slide the tranny out the bottom), make sure it is not going anywhere – it will be shaken a bit. Also we found it best to take off the front wheels to give you a little more room to work in. Drain your transmission fluid from the draining bolt.

2. Remove the finisher plate from your center console. Remove the console from the car – only a few bolts and it will lift off.


3. Remove the 2 harnesses that come out of your carpet and connect to the a/t shifter.
4. Remove the Cotter pin holding the A/T shifter to the A/T tranny

5. Remove the shifter and all the stuff that comes with it. You will now see the ground through your center console.
5 1/2. remove the shifter cable that goes to the ignition, it controls the key release

6. Next, take out the driveshaft. On the differential side there will be 4 bolts that hold the driveshaft to the diff. Remove these bolts, you will want your parking brake on to keep the driveshaft from spinning. To get to the upper bolts, take off your parking brake and your driveshaft will spin, then reapply the parking brake (not too hard there guys). Let the back side of the driveshaft lay on the floor. Also remove the small d-shaft suport a thick wire X-member that keeps the driveshaft from whipping around if it breaks. Next, remove the bracket that holds the middle of the driveshaft up, and slide out your driveshaft.




7. Next, remove the dust plates from the transmission bellhousing, they are at the very front of the transmission.
8. There are some A/T cooling hardlines that run all over the automatic transmission, and two that run to the radiator. Disconnect these hardlines and pull them out. Don’t be afraid to bend them – you won’t ever use them again. Get them out of your engine bay.


9. Disconnect all the sensors you can from you transmission, and the back O2 sensor on your exhaust. Two of the sensors can be cut.


10. Now for one of the time consuming parts (this took us most of a day). You will have to weave your hands in everywhere to find and remove the bellhousing bolts holding the transmission bellhousing onto your engine. We used a ratcheting wrench on the top bolts, with a breaker bar and a jack running from underneath the car to the wrench ontop of the engine. For some of the other bolts we used a socket (with swivels), and for still other bolts we used obstruction wrenches. One of the top ones has a recirculation pipe bracket attached to it, the pipe runs down to the transmission – disconnect it and remove the bolt. Two of the bellhousing bolts run through the starter, disconnect the starter before you take out these bolts then remove the starter. We found that the best way to access the two top bellhousing bolts was thru the passenger side of the engine bay, behind the engine block - we found it necessary to move some lines and disconnect a heater hose.



11. Next, remove the bolts holding the tranny to the crossmember, then jack up the back of the tranny and remove off the crossmember. At the same time, get as many jacks as you can under the tranny – in a few steps it will come off. Also, there is an exhaust bracket on the tranny you must remove.


12. Where you took the dust plates off of the bellhousing earlier, you should be able to look back into the transmission and see some bolts holding the torque converter onto the flywheel – undo these 4 bolts. To get to the top ones, get a 27mm socket and turn the crank pully.
Note: the flywheel gets hard to turn when the engine starts a compression stroke.

13. After the torque converter is unbolted, the transmission will come loose (if not, you can kick it from the front some) – it will pop off and weighs about 250 – 300 lbs. ( a good bit more than the 5 speed – which means that this is a weight reduction!) Get some of your friends to help with this part. Slowly lower the transmission part way down and disconnect any of the wiring that you did not get before. Then slowly lower the tranny the rest of the way – you don’t want it to fall to one side and knock out a jackstand

14. This next step is very frustrating. The automatic flywheel is held on by 6 bolts torqued down to about 120 ft/lbs, and your flywheel will try to turn when you try to break these bolts. Brace your flywheel from moving as best you can. We actually wedged in a jack bar to keep the flywheel from spinning, and put 2 sockets and breaker bars on the flywheel (one braced against the ground tightening to keep the flywheel from spinning, and another to break the flywheel bolts). If you have a propane torch, heat these mofo-bolts up and that should help you break them loose some more. If you (unlike us) have an impact wrench this may come in handy.

15. Once the flywheel comes off, you should see a bushing sticking out about a ¼ inch out of the crankshaft. This is the A/T adapter bearing –and you don’t want an A/T. To remove the bushing either chisel it out with an air chisel, or dremel (which will take about 30 minutes to an hour) or go rent a pilot bushing remover tool and slide hammer from autozone and use it (which will take about 20 seconds).
note: on my car, the A/T adapter bearing would not budge, and even broke the bearing puller tool. Three hours later with a dremel and lots of broken bits we got the darn bearing out.




Procedure – Manual Install

I did not include what needs to be lubed, so check your FSM for where to put on lithium grease - some parts of the transmission need it, and some (like the clutch disc) will not work if they get greasy.

1. Now you are about halfway done. Sand inside your crankshaft with some 800 grit sandpaper, this will help the pilot bushing slide in if there is rust buildup. Then clean out inside there really well. Take a hammer and a 12mm socket and hammer your pilot bushing into your crankshaft. Once it gets slid in all the way it should not go any further (but it does go pretty far into the crankshaft). Then, push on your manual transmission gasket (it should align itself on some dowels)


2. Slide the new flywheel on (there are 2 little holes that line up (on one the flywheel and one on the crankshaft), but nothing actually goes thru them – but we still lined them up) Put back in the flywheel bolts, and torque them down to 100ft/lbs in a crisscross pattern. Get them on there tight because you don’t want your flywheel to come loose and have to do all the above all over. Clean off your flywheel by spraying it with some carb cleaner or something similar.

3. Next, use the alignment tool and affix your clutch disc over the flywheel. Keep the alignemen tool in the clutch and the crankshaft – you will take it off later. Make sure you have the correct side of the clutch facing the flywheel – it should have stamped on it “flywheel side, or transmission side”. If not, I believe the side of the clutch that the springs sit further out on goes towards the back of the car.

4. Now put on the pressure plate. Keep the alignement tool in the clutch and slide the pressure plate over the clutch. Bolt down the pressure plate to the flywheel – there are some dowels on the flywheel that fit into the pressure plate. Everything will be pretty tightly binded together but don’t worry – it needs to be tight so the clutch plate will stay aligned. Now you can take the clutch alignment tool out.

5. Take the throwout bearing off of your 5 speed transmission if it has one on there and replace it with a new one if you have it (it will come in a clutch kit). To change it you may need a wheel puller and a hammer to get it back together.


5 ½. Take the shifter off the 5 speed transmission if you havn’t already.
6. Next, it is time to prewire your 5 speed transmission. Please refer to the “wiring section” of this writeup to do this. You will want to wire in most of the sensors before you install the 5 speed into the car. The one sensor on top front of the transmission (CAS?) you must leave out otherwise it will catch on the flywheel and break into lots of pieces, or rub ontop of the transmission bay - make sure you put it back in later, otherwise your car will not work.





7. This is the hardest step to do. You now get to stab your 5 speed gearbox into the clutch/pilot bushing. This step took us a good 6 hours and multiple attempts. Some people say that the tranny must be rotated while jacking it up so the starter hump points down, the rotated into place once it is mated to the transmission, we did not do this and still got it into place. We finally got it to work by: Putting one jack in the middle of the 5 speed (at its center of gravity on a flat spot) and another jack at the very back of the transmission. This allows you to wag the tranny side to side and up and down. Next loosen the engine mounts that hold the mount to the body – not the engine to the mount, with these loose, jack up the front of the engine so you have a better approach angle with the transmission. Remove the exhaust piping that runs from the header to the cat so you can have more room to slide the transmission in there, you may want to have a rubber mallet to hammer the back of the transmission in. Jack the transmission up and slide stab/wrestle/hammer/cuss the transmission to slide onto the pilot bearing/clutch. Easier said then done. We had to keep going up and down with the transmission. Also, once it is in if it is not perfect, it will not fit on all the way – you may want to try spinning the flywheel to help line everything up. Do not let the transmission shaft handle a whole lot of weight otherwise it will bend the shaft or break your clutch. We found the clutch part out the hard way. Bolt in all the bellhousing bolts and put on the starter. Then, slowly raise the back of the transmission while you lower the front of the engine and reattach the crossmember and bolt the crossmember back in to hold the back of the transmission up. You should now be able to take all the jacks out from under the transmission and put back in all sensors and vac. lines.
8. Now it’s time to install the clutch and brake pedals. First do the brake pedal otherwise the clutch pedal will get in the way. Remove the bolts holding that white A/T box thing and move it to the side. There are 4 bolts holding the brake assembly to the firewall, and one holding the brake assembly up under the dash. Remove all of these, and the two sensors on the brake pedal, and the cotter pin holding the brake pedal to the booster. Now with some wrestling, the brake assembly will slide out and there is no need to drop the steering column. Now install your new brake pedal and put the sensors back in. One sensor is for the brake lights, the other I believe is for cruise control. If you only have one bung in your new pedal I believe the cruise control sensor can be mounted on the cluth pedal.
9. Once the brake pedal is in it is time to install the clutch pedal. Luckily, Nissan left a guide under the dash that tells you where to drill. Drill out the two bolt holes and the larger center whole with a circle cutter drill bit and touch it up with a dremel. Slide your clutch assembly up there and bolt it in, attach the clutch master cylinder on the other side and cotter pin them together.



10. Run the clutch hardline from the clutch master cylinder to the clutch slave cylinder and by now you should have bolted the slave cylinder on the engine. At this time you can also eliminate the clutch dampening system by bypassing the large diameter hardline loop, and going directly from the hardline coming out of the master cylinder to the rubber line coming out of the slave cylinder. This will give your clutch pedal a better feel and less stuff for you to worry about.
11. Reinstall the driveshaft, then fill the transmission up with gear oil (2.4 quarts max) from where the shifter sits, and then reinstall the shifter. Two of the shifter bolts you will have to be under the car to get to.
12. Bleed your clutch lines and adjust your clutch pedal to where you want it.
13. Resinstall the shifter rubber boot, the center console, and the shifter finisher plate and leather boot.
14. Lower your car onto the ground (we ended up with our car teeter-tottering on 2 jackstands which was kind of funny and dangerous at the same time)
15. Start your car and see what happens.
16. We got a CEL when using the Auto ECU, but I have heard you can wire the CEL light to the airbag or something to only light up when you start the car, or just put a resistor in the CEL circuit.
17. Drive it around the block, and take it easy until your clutch is broken in (about 500 miles)

Wiring
Visit: http://www.ka24development.com....html for wiring instructions. Any other sensors that were on the auto, but not on the 5 speed can be cut off and discarded - I believe there were 2 or 3 of them on the passenger side of the bellhousing.

Results:
The car ran fine, the transmission is very loud when the interior pieces are not installed, and you will get a CEL. But now you get to shift your car yourself. 5th gear on Matt's car will grind if you do not shift just right (the transmission is used, so some quirks are to be expected). Also we have not figured out how to get cruise control working - so that shouldn't be too hard. My car is not 100% swapped yet, but due to some previos-owner installed car alarm, I can't get my radio to work.

The car is throwing the following codes:
0804 a/t diagnosis communication, i believe i just need to plug my small ecu thing back up on the drivers side
1108 shift solenoid
1201 shift solenoid
1203 overrun switch
1204 tc clutch solenoid, i believe this is the switch on the top of my fender in the engine bay, i should be able to put a resistor and fix that code
1205 line pressure
1208 fluid temperature

ECU Swapping:
In order to get rid of the CEL (which would have prevented the car from passing OBDII testing when the car is inspected), a Manual ECU was used. Once the new ECU was installed, there was no CEL and no more rough starts - the car behaves exactly the same as a stickshift that came out of the factory. The Manual ECU can be used with the automatic transmission wiring harness.

If your car is a '95 the new ECU must be from a '95 (maybe 96?)

If your car is a '96 the new ECU must be from a '96 (maybe 95?)

If your car is a 97-98, the new ECU must be from a 97-98, or you can repin a 95-96 ECU to work in a 97-98 240sx (which is what we did on Matt's car). In order to repin it, follow the link here: http://jimwolftechnology.com/w...D.PDF
Once it is repinned, you may need to buy a new rear O2 sensor in order to clear all CELS (that is mentioned in the link)


__________________
If you have any further questions feel free to AIM me at re4dtull or Email me at [email protected]
__________________
nightkid86 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Old 02-05-2007, 06:04 PM   #2
LB.Motoring
Post Whore!
 
LB.Motoring's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SòCal♥
Age: 35
Posts: 5,840
Trader Rating: (1)
LB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfectionLB.Motoring is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Send a message via AIM to LB.Motoring
Great Write up.

Props!

To the Archives!
__________________
Robby Leuer
LB.Motoring is offline  
Old 02-05-2007, 06:06 PM   #3
nightkid86
Leaky Injector
 
nightkid86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 57
Trader Rating: (0)
nightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nice
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
This might also help:

There are a few ways to get an automatic or manual flywheel on or off.

The easiest by far is to have an impact gun. A quick ziiiip and the flywheel is on the ground. If you don't have an impact gun the flywheel will spin as you try to take it off, you can attempt to brace the flywheel using screwdrivers and such, while holding the crank pulley with a 27mm socket.... or you can use this secret:


EASY WAY TO GET ON AND OFF A FLYWHEEL: upon doing a clutch swap a year or so after my 5 speed conversion, I ran into a really easy way to change the flywheel. Basically you get a new bolt (and possibly a nut) that will fit into a hole on the flywheel (the hole not used to bolt to the crankshaft) and use a bellhousing bolt. Run a chain between the two bolts as shown in the diagram below. it doesn't matter if the chain is too long, the excess can just dangle. Put the chain on and then turn the flywheel to add tension to the chain. The chain will now keep the flywheel from spinning. This works great to hold the flywheel if you don't have an impact gun. Wrench away.

__________________
nightkid86 is offline  
Old 02-05-2007, 09:14 PM   #4
projectRDM
Post Whore!
 
projectRDM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Atlanta
Age: 47
Posts: 13,812
Trader Rating: (12)
projectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 12 reviews
Nice job hacking the transmission harness. To the guy desperate for a used auto and willing to pay $300 you just made it worthless to him.

You could have just unplugged it.
projectRDM is offline  
Old 02-05-2007, 09:32 PM   #5
rim_bender
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Ga
Posts: 441
Trader Rating: (0)
rim_bender is on the path to ruinrim_bender is on the path to ruinrim_bender is on the path to ruin
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by R240NA
Nice job hacking the transmission harness. To the guy desperate for a used auto and willing to pay $300 you just made it worthless to him.

You could have just unplugged it.

HAH

ya, i was about to say, why didnt you just unplug it

thats what i always do
rim_bender is offline  
Old 02-06-2007, 12:00 PM   #6
nightkid86
Leaky Injector
 
nightkid86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 57
Trader Rating: (0)
nightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nice
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I reused the auto harness when I did the swap, and the wires run down into the transmission - no clue how I was supposed to unplug it.

You don't have to use this writeup if you don't want to. Worked fine on the 3 cars I've converted to 5 speed.
__________________
nightkid86 is offline  
Old 02-06-2007, 12:08 PM   #7
projectRDM
Post Whore!
 
projectRDM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Atlanta
Age: 47
Posts: 13,812
Trader Rating: (12)
projectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfectionprojectRDM is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 12 reviews
You unplug it at the fusebox, then drop the harness down under the car.

No one is saying they have to use your instructions either. But I don't usually ruin a good transmission when I pull one just because I'm too lazy to unplug it so I pointed that out as an extra step for those looking to make a little money back.
projectRDM is offline  
Old 02-06-2007, 12:57 PM   #8
rim_bender
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Ga
Posts: 441
Trader Rating: (0)
rim_bender is on the path to ruinrim_bender is on the path to ruinrim_bender is on the path to ruin
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by nightkid86
I reused the auto harness when I did the swap, and the wires run down into the transmission - no clue how I was supposed to unplug it.

You don't have to use this writeup if you don't want to. Worked fine on the 3 cars I've converted to 5 speed.

The actual tranny harness is separate from the lower engine harness

so what he is saying is that you can just unplug the plugs by the fuse box that go to the tranny and take the tranny out along with all the plugs, and then you still have the lower harness bolted to the starter, alternator and some other plugs.
rim_bender is offline  
Old 02-06-2007, 01:03 PM   #9
nightkid86
Leaky Injector
 
nightkid86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 57
Trader Rating: (0)
nightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nicenightkid86 is just really nice
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
^Alright. Either way, I have a 5 speed now and it is a lot better.

I'm not to worried about messing up that harness - It can't be worth much. I can't even sell the perfectly good atuo tranny for $20.
__________________
nightkid86 is offline  
Old 02-06-2007, 01:31 PM   #10
MadScientist
Zilvia.net Advertiser
 
MadScientist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NOLA
Age: 44
Posts: 1,964
Trader Rating: (3)
MadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really niceMadScientist is just really nice
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
PepBoys has a Battery Powered Impact by GoodYear for about $70... get some sockets and save your self 6-8 hours of labor!!

Peace
Drew
__________________
URAS
MadScientist is offline  
Old 02-06-2007, 01:16 PM   #11
Gnnr
Post Whore!
 
Gnnr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: S. FL
Posts: 3,960
Trader Rating: (0)
Gnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond reputeGnnr has a reputation beyond repute
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Posi Rep for you sir!
__________________
Gnnr is offline  
Old 02-06-2007, 10:51 PM   #12
badboy6686
Zilvia Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ga
Age: 35
Posts: 246
Trader Rating: (5)
badboy6686 is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
My preferred method for loosing/tightening the flywheel bolts.

badboy6686 is offline  
 

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Copyright © 1998 - 2019, Zilvia.net™