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todd5854 · 03-21-2013, 03:44 PM

94 s13 KA24DE

Cams are in the same place as before, lobes on cyl. 1 (closest to rad) pointing opposite, TDC set, at second notch from the top of the crank pulley.

Distributor set same as previous, which lined up similar to where it was before disassembling. SIMILAR isn't good enough, why wouldn't it line up? I tried all of the teeth, it will not line up exactly with cyl. no. 1's corresponding plug wire.

Anyway, I played with the distributor timing a little bit, and I eventually got it to fire up! 200rpm, tons of misfires, rev'd to 3000 when i gave it some gas, then when i let go it shut right off.

When I unplug the fuel pump fuse, it tries to start a little bit. Shortly after plugging it back in it doesn't even want to fire.

I read all around the forums, others have had similar issues but nothing worked for me.

Any ideas??

Frank_Jaeger · 03-21-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by todd5854

94 s13 KA24DE

Cams are in the same place as before, lobes on cyl. 1 (closest to rad) pointing opposite, TDC set, at second notch from the top of the crank pulley.

Distributor set same as previous, which lined up similar to where it was before disassembling. SIMILAR isn't good enough, why wouldn't it line up? I tried all of the teeth, it will not line up exactly with cyl. no. 1's corresponding plug wire.

Anyway, I played with the distributor timing a little bit, and I eventually got it to fire up! 200rpm, tons of misfires, rev'd to 3000 when i gave it some gas, then when i let go it shut right off.

When I unplug the fuel pump fuse, it tries to start a little bit. Shortly after plugging it back in it doesn't even want to fire.

I read all around the forums, others have had similar issues but nothing worked for me.

Any ideas??

Every time you start it with the timing off, it's flooding. To clear the chambers out, pull the fuel pump fuse, crank it, put the fuse back in, and start again.

Also are you sure you've tried all the teeth? It took me several tries to get my dizzy right, I kept stabbing it to the teeth on either side. Remember the dizzy rotates as it slides in.

todd5854 · 03-21-2013, 03:57 PM

Okay, that makes sense that it floods when the timing is off.. because it's not starting and fuel is unburnt.. haha that solves that problem that I should have already known.

Now, when it did start, after I killed it (like as I was taking the key out..), it would still fire one last cylinder. Maybe I'll try to move the distributor up one instead. I thought it was two behind, so I tried moving it two that way. I'll try moving it up, then. Haven't tried that yet.

Obviously my cams are in correctly, since my valves still work. lol

Frank_Jaeger · 03-21-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by todd5854

Obviously my cams are in correctly, since my valves still work. lol

You turned the engine by hand first, right?

todd5854 · 03-21-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank_Jaeger

You turned the engine by hand first, right?

YES! absolutely, lol. I pulled out the sparkplugs, and I poured oil into the engine, then turned it a good few times slowly to make sure all was well

todd5854 · 03-23-2013, 11:06 AM

Here's the pics after its put together..... IS THIS RIGHT OR WRONG???

Really can't figure this out and its making me mad

Untitled by todd5854, on Flickr

03-21-2013, 03:44 PM	#1
todd5854 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s13 Won't start after head gasket change 94 s13 KA24DE Cams are in the same place as before, lobes on cyl. 1 (closest to rad) pointing opposite, TDC set, at second notch from the top of the crank pulley. Distributor set same as previous, which lined up similar to where it was before disassembling. SIMILAR isn't good enough, why wouldn't it line up? I tried all of the teeth, it will not line up exactly with cyl. no. 1's corresponding plug wire. Anyway, I played with the distributor timing a little bit, and I eventually got it to fire up! 200rpm, tons of misfires, rev'd to 3000 when i gave it some gas, then when i let go it shut right off. When I unplug the fuel pump fuse, it tries to start a little bit. Shortly after plugging it back in it doesn't even want to fire. I read all around the forums, others have had similar issues but nothing worked for me. Any ideas??

03-23-2013, 11:06 AM	#6
todd5854 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here's the pics after its put together..... IS THIS RIGHT OR WRONG??? Really can't figure this out and its making me mad Untitled by todd5854, on Flickr Untitled by todd5854, on Flickr Untitled by todd5854, on Flickr Untitled by todd5854, on Flickr

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03-21-2013, 03:57 PM	#3
todd5854 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Okay, that makes sense that it floods when the timing is off.. because it's not starting and fuel is unburnt.. haha that solves that problem that I should have already known. Now, when it did start, after I killed it (like as I was taking the key out..), it would still fire one last cylinder. Maybe I'll try to move the distributor up one instead. I thought it was two behind, so I tried moving it two that way. I'll try moving it up, then. Haven't tried that yet. Obviously my cams are in correctly, since my valves still work. lol