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Drifting-pedobear · 06-13-2010, 05:00 PM

quick question:

can/ where do i buy larger lips for blitz 03's?

i found a set local that i like, but have to leave for work ATM, so i cant do any good though searching, so if anyone has had experience or knows of a place to buy them, id really appreciate it.

they are a 3pc and CAN be disassembled into 3 pieces.

thanks again, and i will search myself when i get home from work at 2am, if no one has pointed me in the right direction.

lflkajfj12123 · 06-13-2010, 05:01 PM

The lip is pretty big on them in the first place. You want them to look like -9000 or something?

Drifting-pedobear · 06-13-2010, 05:06 PM

no, they are +22 and +32.
im not stock bodied.

so i need them to be wider. -9000 eh? cool.

thefro526 · 06-13-2010, 05:16 PM

Go to a custom wheel shop and tell them what you want to do and have them make the parts to do it.

Or, sell your set and them buy a set in awesome sizes.

Either way it's going to be expensive.

5t341tH · 06-13-2010, 05:27 PM

lips arent cheap man. i got a company that sells aftermarket lips for 40bolt holes.
for my 19s, they cost about 350 a lip

atutt · 06-13-2010, 05:59 PM

^I need lips with 40 bolt holes in a reverse mount 17"

Can they do it? Can you tell me who does it?

BOXCAR · 06-13-2010, 06:32 PM

Where si the pic for the local sale so we can see the lip?

99maxgtr · 06-13-2010, 07:59 PM

yeah lips aren't that cheap. depending on how much your wheels are they may be as much as the wheels them self.
i contacted work to see how much it would be to get some lips for my 18's and they are 300 a piece.
my pair is worth probably around 1100-1200 and cost 1600 new. so it's worth it to me.
just food for thought.

wh0aitznic0 · 06-13-2010, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99maxgtr

yeah lips aren't that cheap. depending on how much your wheels are they may be as much as the wheels them self.

The problem is that they no longer make Blitz 03's.

lflkajfj12123 · 06-13-2010, 10:40 PM

No the problem is OP doesn't realize that all Blitz 03's of the same disc type use the same lip. They change the offset according the thickness of the back where it mates to the hub.

I.E. 18x10 +44 03's have the same size lip as 18x10+22.

wh0aitznic0 · 06-13-2010, 11:00 PM

^Maybe that's why I've never seen 03's with HUGE lips.

articdragon192 · 06-13-2010, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun

No the problem is OP doesn't realize that all Blitz 03's of the same disc type use the same lip. They change the offset according the thickness of the back where it mates to the hub.

I.E. 18x10 +44 03's have the same size lip as 18x10+22.

I was waiting for you to drop the bomb on this, lol.

Drifting-pedobear · 06-14-2010, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun

No the problem is OP doesn't realize that all Blitz 03's of the same disc type use the same lip. They change the offset according the thickness of the back where it mates to the hub.

I.E. 18x10 +44 03's have the same size lip as 18x10+22.

ahhh i see. thanks for that.
so, i gues im SOL on this one.
so that means they use diffrent faces yea? and have false lips... KK.
thats a bummer.

articdragon192 · 06-14-2010, 12:17 AM

False lips? It is still a 3 piece wheel. Only that offset is changed through swapping faces instead of swapping barrels. Cuts down on cost. Cheaper to cast faces with different offsets than to forge barrels with different width.

Drifting-pedobear · 06-14-2010, 12:49 AM

i think its called false lip: when the spoke appears to stick out further, then attaches to the actuall lip resessed of itself.

and yes, that makes sense.

JDM Sil4ty · 06-14-2010, 04:21 AM

there is a green s14 zenki from WA. i think the member's name is ICEDSOLE or something. he has a staggered set of blitz 03's .. his rear lip is >4 inches i think ..

atutt · 06-14-2010, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articdragon192

False lips? It is still a 3 piece wheel. Only that offset is changed through swapping faces instead of swapping barrels. Cuts down on cost. Cheaper to cast faces with different offsets than to forge barrels with different width.

They probably don't even do that. They probably only had one casting. A casting with the lowest offset. Then just milled it down.

lflkajfj12123 · 06-14-2010, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDM Sil4ty

there is a green s14 zenki from WA. i think the member's name is ICEDSOLE or something. he has a staggered set of blitz 03's .. his rear lip is >4 inches i think ..

I think he bent one of the lips on the rears. If anyone knows of a pair he wants to buy some.

JVD · 06-14-2010, 06:32 AM

Yes, lips are the same on all. 17 x 9 +15 and 18 x 10 +45 had samesies. +45 just had a really thin mounting pad.

They are also WELDED...not really a true 3 piece that just splits apart when you unbolt them.

Drifting-pedobear · 06-14-2010, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDM Sil4ty

there is a green s14 zenki from WA. i think the member's name is ICEDSOLE or something. he has a staggered set of blitz 03's .. his rear lip is >4 inches i think ..

ive seen him. you know if they are 17s or 18s?

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun

I think he bent one of the lips on the rears. If anyone knows of a pair he wants to buy some.

bummer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JVD

Yes, lips are the same on all. 17 x 9 +15 and 18 x 10 +45 had samesies. +45 just had a really thin mounting pad.

They are also WELDED...not really a true 3 piece that just splits apart when you unbolt them.

i see.

you sure they are welded? so i cant take the lip off and re-finish it?

nathanong87 · 06-14-2010, 01:43 PM

u need custom barrels

CPRs were welded and not even "3 piece" but with money....crazy things can be done. honda content below.

JVD · 06-14-2010, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drifting-pedobear

i see.

you sure they are welded? so i cant take the lip off and re-finish it?

Check my FS threads. I refinished a set myself. You can only take the face out. Still works fine if you're just trying to refinish the lips.

Drifting-pedobear · 06-14-2010, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JVD

Check my FS threads. I refinished a set myself. You can only take the face out. Still works fine if you're just trying to refinish the lips.

ok, thats fine by me.
i actually just bought some: 17x8.5 +28 and 17x9 +32, both low disc. best sizing i have found yet.

i will be refinishing them as well. what was the paint code you used to finish the centers? the silver...

(i might just have them polished entirely.)

5t341tH · 06-15-2010, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

^I need lips with 40 bolt holes in a reverse mount 17"

Can they do it? Can you tell me who does it?

here u go.
2/3pc wheel replacement components - Club Lexus Forums

looks like they do 18s and up only

articdragon192 · 06-15-2010, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

They probably don't even do that. They probably only had one casting. A casting with the lowest offset. Then just milled it down.

You can only mill down so much due to the depth of the lugnut holes. I'm sure they use at least 2 different molds.

ayuaddict · 06-15-2010, 04:33 AM

If you're serious:

Calculate the barrel to lip ratio, for example: on a hypothetical wheel that actually uses different barrels to change the offset with the mounting pad exactly in line with the rear of the face: a x10 +50 offset would mean a 6.97" barrel and 3.03" lip (given that the face mounts in the lip and not between the lip and barrel). You can use that to figure out what starting width and offset you would want to use. This can work in your case, although the Blitz 03s use a different mounting pad thickness to adjust offset, different widths will allow you to run a larger lip with your desired offset. I don't know the exact lip to barrel ratio used on this particular wheel, but its quite obvious that a thinner, high offset example would be an ideal starting point to re barrel which is in your favor as these tend to be mush cheaper. Some wheels that are "welded" are actually soldered and can be taken apart by heating up the filler metal on the seams.

i hope this makes sense, fuck drinking hella coffee late at night.

GunmetalSR · 06-15-2010, 06:10 AM

this guy
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Chernobyl · 06-15-2010, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articdragon192

You can only mill down so much due to the depth of the lugnut holes. I'm sure they use at least 2 different molds.

Or they drill the lugnut holes after they mill down the mounting face.

nathanong87 · 06-15-2010, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunmetalSR

this guy
NWP4LIFE: OpSpec Wheel ReWorks
end thread/

yea ralph is a proper dood!

he was the one that did those CPRs above!

articdragon192 · 06-16-2010, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernobyl

Or they drill the lugnut holes after they mill down the mounting face.

Sometimes a different offset mold is cheaper than machine work time. That's what we do for our wheels at least. Time on the machine is more expensive that just having a different mold for the backpad.

06-13-2010, 05:00 PM	#1
Drifting-pedobear Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: seattle, wa Age: 30 Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Lips for Blitz 03's quick question: can/ where do i buy larger lips for blitz 03's? i found a set local that i like, but have to leave for work ATM, so i cant do any good though searching, so if anyone has had experience or knows of a place to buy them, id really appreciate it. they are a 3pc and CAN be disassembled into 3 pieces. thanks again, and i will search myself when i get home from work at 2am, if no one has pointed me in the right direction. __________________ RIGHTWHEELDRIVE.com

06-13-2010, 05:06 PM	#3
Drifting-pedobear Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: seattle, wa Age: 30 Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	no, they are +22 and +32. im not stock bodied. so i need them to be wider. -9000 eh? cool. __________________ RIGHTWHEELDRIVE.com

06-13-2010, 05:16 PM	#4
thefro526 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,813 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Go to a custom wheel shop and tell them what you want to do and have them make the parts to do it. Or, sell your set and them buy a set in awesome sizes. Either way it's going to be expensive. __________________ http://thefro526.wordpress.com/ Deto International

06-13-2010, 05:27 PM	#5
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 33 Posts: 2,776 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	lips arent cheap man. i got a company that sells aftermarket lips for 40bolt holes. for my 19s, they cost about 350 a lip __________________ lexus baby

06-13-2010, 06:32 PM	#7
BOXCAR Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: TEXAS Age: 37 Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Where si the pic for the local sale so we can see the lip? __________________ ESSENCE LOVELY IDOL GANADOR GENTLEMENS CLUB

06-13-2010, 05:01 PM	#2
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	The lip is pretty big on them in the first place. You want them to look like -9000 or something?

06-13-2010, 05:59 PM	#6
atutt Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: barrie, ontario, canada Age: 35 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^I need lips with 40 bolt holes in a reverse mount 17" Can they do it? Can you tell me who does it?

06-13-2010, 10:40 PM	#10
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	No the problem is OP doesn't realize that all Blitz 03's of the same disc type use the same lip. They change the offset according the thickness of the back where it mates to the hub. I.E. 18x10 +44 03's have the same size lip as 18x10+22.

06-14-2010, 12:17 AM	#14
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina/ Irvine Age: 35 Posts: 6,789 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	False lips? It is still a 3 piece wheel. Only that offset is changed through swapping faces instead of swapping barrels. Cuts down on cost. Cheaper to cast faces with different offsets than to forge barrels with different width. __________________ Need help? Click here Still stumped? Try this Can't find what you're looking for? Here you go.

06-14-2010, 12:49 AM	#15
Drifting-pedobear Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: seattle, wa Age: 30 Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	i think its called false lip: when the spoke appears to stick out further, then attaches to the actuall lip resessed of itself. and yes, that makes sense. __________________ RIGHTWHEELDRIVE.com

06-14-2010, 04:21 AM	#16
JDM Sil4ty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: City of Trees; Cali Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	there is a green s14 zenki from WA. i think the member's name is ICEDSOLE or something. he has a staggered set of blitz 03's .. his rear lip is >4 inches i think .. __________________ alpha kenny body.

06-14-2010, 06:32 AM	#19
JVD Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32 Posts: 1,820 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes, lips are the same on all. 17 x 9 +15 and 18 x 10 +45 had samesies. +45 just had a really thin mounting pad. They are also WELDED...not really a true 3 piece that just splits apart when you unbolt them.

06-14-2010, 01:43 PM	#21
nathanong87 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: maryland Age: 33 Posts: 5,182 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	u need custom barrels CPRs were welded and not even "3 piece" but with money....crazy things can be done. honda content below. __________________ IG @nathanong87 --- Night ★ Life natelife.tumblr.com

06-15-2010, 04:33 AM	#26
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	If you're serious: Calculate the barrel to lip ratio, for example: on a hypothetical wheel that actually uses different barrels to change the offset with the mounting pad exactly in line with the rear of the face: a x10 +50 offset would mean a 6.97" barrel and 3.03" lip (given that the face mounts in the lip and not between the lip and barrel). You can use that to figure out what starting width and offset you would want to use. This can work in your case, although the Blitz 03s use a different mounting pad thickness to adjust offset, different widths will allow you to run a larger lip with your desired offset. I don't know the exact lip to barrel ratio used on this particular wheel, but its quite obvious that a thinner, high offset example would be an ideal starting point to re barrel which is in your favor as these tend to be mush cheaper. Some wheels that are "welded" are actually soldered and can be taken apart by heating up the filler metal on the seams. i hope this makes sense, fuck drinking hella coffee late at night.

06-15-2010, 06:10 AM	#27
GunmetalSR Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metairie, Louisiana Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this guy NWP4LIFE: OpSpec Wheel ReWorks end thread/

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