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*exitspeed* · 08-21-2006, 01:44 PM

Holy crap that looks good.

Props for doing such a good job.

Looks like I'm painting my car this winter. Does it have to be above a certain temp to do this? I'm assuming so.

trybal · 08-21-2006, 01:50 PM

car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex

JVD · 08-21-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by trybal

car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex

Exactly. The paint on my S14 was swirled to shit(hand washing a black car

) but I still have pics where the paint looks amazing just because of the lighting. Not trying to knock the hella good job, but it really doesn't look that good in real life. I've done it. After I did it I came into my garage and there was a nice reflection coming off of the spare trunk I tried it on... then I turned on the lights

*exitspeed* · 08-21-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JVD

but it really doesn't look that good in real life. I've done it. After I did it I came into my garage and there was a nice reflection coming off of the spare trunk I tried it on... then I turned on the lights

It's still gotta be better then flat black...

punxva · 08-21-2006, 02:40 PM

I think it looks really good considering the price, and if you prep it properly, and wetsand after every 3 coats or so and progressivly move to a higher grit, then you should be able to get a very smooth and orange peel free finish. You also have to take into account that weather plays a pretty big role in the formation of orange peel. You also have to remember that black is one of the hardest colors to hide imperfections with, but as i stated before with the proper prep and sanding, you should be able to replicate that picture that was posted on the mopar thread, if not a better result if you are patient and take your time. I'd expect to work on it for at least a few days. I plan on doing this to my roof in black, since ive got a peeling clear coat and some free time during my winter break from college. I'll prove to the doubters that black can be done well, just with a little lovin

nonissan · 08-21-2006, 02:54 PM

looks very nice. will this be a detriment if you decide to have it repainted in the future? will it be harder/worse to paint over?....

Ian · 08-21-2006, 03:01 PM

I could imagine that this stuff can't possibly cure too hard...

You'd probably want to remove it before putting real paint down

atom · 08-21-2006, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trybal

car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex

LOL yeah this is true. We did the roller job on a friend's civic in the same appliance white....I mean Championship White.

It does not look that great up close. Personally I just think it's so bland. Since you can't use any additives, appliance white and straight black are pretty much the only colors that are turn out ok. But for the price I guess you can't complain too much.

fromxtor · 08-21-2006, 06:37 PM

^^ you do know that most cars in the 60's and earlier used this type of paint, and you can spray clear over it.

atom · 08-21-2006, 07:39 PM

Yes I am aware of that. And you know what? All those classic cars look boring as hell paint-wise compared to a modern car with a metallic/pearl paint job.

SimpleS14 · 08-22-2006, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Holy crap that looks good.

Props for doing such a good job.

Looks like I'm painting my car this winter. Does it have to be above a certain temp to do this? I'm assuming so.

I honestly don't know the lowest temperature you can work with, but I know that the colder it is the more mineral spirits you have to add to the mixture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trybal

car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex

hahaha that is very true, the picture in my sig hides the bad parts of my car when it was green. As I said before....this is by no means car show quality and its good enough for me. Also for the price and overall look I'm definately not complaining.

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Originally Posted by nonissan

looks very nice. will this be a detriment if you decide to have it repainted in the future? will it be harder/worse to paint over?....

You can still repaint with automotive paint if you wish to do so.

I should stress that the final result is only as good as the effort you put into it. I will admit some areas I got lazy and rushed, mainly at the fifth and sixth coat when I had to move my car to a friends house. I had no time to wetsand the whole car, but instead the runs. Also if you surface as any dents, or pits they will show if you don't fill them. Where I have serious paint chip from my old paint...it shows with the new one because I didn't take the time to fill it. Also temperature does have a big effect on overall progress.....more like humidity. I was working in 80+ degree weather at times with humidity almost at 80%...not the ideal setting, but being strapped on time I had no choice...so that resulted in some orange peel as well.

Finally got my bumper in, so I will take pics of my progress on that piece and use it for a "write-up".

kognition - Who neg repped you? Cause I know for damn sure it wasn't me. I don't get angry or upset at any comments flying my way...you can see by my responses in ANY thread I post in.

*kognition* · 08-22-2006, 11:24 AM

My sinceres appollogies to you SimpleS14. It wasnt you.
Thank's LB.Motoring

Thanks Mr240sx

You are both morons abusing the rep system. Grow the hell up.

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

kognition - Who neg repped you? Cause I know for damn sure it wasn't me. I don't get angry or upset at any comments flying my way...you can see by my responses in ANY thread I post in.

slideways2004 · 08-22-2006, 11:47 AM

i have some questions. do you wetsand the 1st and 2nd coat also? is every coat the same thickness? do people do more or less than 6 coats

CA4All · 08-22-2006, 12:02 PM

im doing the same thin n my S13 and i hate it. It's taking forever because I pretty spent atleast an hour on wet sanding the part that I painted after 2 coats. 6 coats...that means atleast 3hrs of wetsanding. dear lord...im so tired from it

crazybb · 08-22-2006, 12:27 PM

tell us how it turns out ca4all.....

SimpleS14 · 08-22-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by slideways2004

i have some questions. do you wetsand the 1st and 2nd coat also? is every coat the same thickness? do people do more or less than 6 coats

You wetsand every two coats and yes each coat is thinned out. People do more than six, I can't see anyone doing less.

Nachtmensch · 08-22-2006, 02:01 PM

dang! thats clean

i might have to try this on my crx!

ronmcdon · 08-22-2006, 02:43 PM

looks awesome! congrats!

SimpleS14 · 08-27-2006, 03:31 PM

Just want to let you guys know that I finally got my rear JDM bumper (used) and started to paint it last week. I'm done, but I haven't found the time to install it onto my car. Since I was only painting the rear bumper this time around...I actually took my time and wetsand between each two coats and let each coat sit overnight (almost 24 hours between each coat). Far less orange peel and runs were apparent...even my neighbors thought I sprayed the bumper instead of rolled it. Also I had time to take pics between each coat and some other detailed pictures. I'm going to use these pictures for my writeup when I find the time to write it up...since I'm going back to school and want to refresh the website.

Here is how the bumper looked when I first got it....

You have to roll on the paint very thin...so thin its like your rolling on milk. You get runs and micro bubbles...but that is easily fixed by catching them with the roller. Here is a pic of the runs and bubbles before I used my roller, just to give you an idea of what I was working with....

Here is the final and sixth coat....very clean IMO....

I still need to wetsand and buff the entire car.....BUT...I managed to get the front end out of the way. Its hard to take a pic given its white, but I must say I like the results. Smooth to the touch and quite glossy...and I used 1000 grit, medium rubbing compound and polishing compound.

Here is a pic of the hood: http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/buff.jpg

Here is a pic of the untouched roof: http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/nobuff_1.jpg

Notice the reflection of the houses on the hood and the hazy reflection on the roof? I should also note that the car is about 50 ft away from those houses.

More to come with time on my side....but for now I'm happy with the results , the amount of money I saved, and the experience I gained.

fromxtor · 08-27-2006, 03:57 PM

100% badass ^^

undesiredshoe · 08-27-2006, 04:28 PM

On the hood, is that bird poo or something with the paint??

**ThatGuy** · 08-27-2006, 04:30 PM

^Looks like a taped off windshield squirter to me.

SimpleS14 · 08-27-2006, 05:05 PM

ThatGuy is correct...I removed the windshield washer fluid nozzles and taped from underneath.

fromxtor · 08-27-2006, 05:26 PM

Too bad you cant do metallic like this, I would have you come down to NC and roll my hatch.

SimpleS14 · 08-27-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fromxtor

Too bad you cant do metallic like this, I would have you come down to NC and roll my hatch.

Well I was reading on the Mopar threads that there is certain paints that have been used that consist of metallics. However those were sprayed on with a Wagner gun. I honestly forgot what paints were used....have to scour those Mopar threads to find out.

SimpleS14 · 09-06-2006, 12:39 PM

So I finally wetsand with 1000 grit and buff the car with rubbing compound. Orange peel is apparent in most of the areas due to my rushing and skipping some wetsanding. I can see that patience and attention to detail does help...as my rear bumper looks very good compared to the rest of the car.

This pic has some light glare from the car next to me...you can also notice the reflection....

koukimonster139 · 09-06-2006, 01:29 PM

damn good job! I thought about rollin my s14, but I just dont have the time for all the wetsanding. Im currently transforming my garage into a temporary paint booth and ill be resprayin the silver moss except with met.black roof and trunk and hood. SO hopefully ill only have to wetsand it once when im done.
anyway looks hella good for $68.

ballinnmiami240sx · 09-06-2006, 03:52 PM

Good job....I'll have to drive up that way and check it out.

chmercer · 09-06-2006, 05:51 PM

damn you went from 1k grit straight to compound? brutal.

180sExy · 09-06-2006, 06:03 PM

all i can say is "wow!!!" i have never seen a how job done that well i wish i could see it in person!

08-21-2006, 01:44 PM	#61
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Holy crap that looks good. Props for doing such a good job. Looks like I'm painting my car this winter. Does it have to be above a certain temp to do this? I'm assuming so. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

08-21-2006, 06:37 PM	#69
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 40 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	^^ you do know that most cars in the 60's and earlier used this type of paint, and you can spray clear over it. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

08-27-2006, 03:31 PM	#79
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 38 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just want to let you guys know that I finally got my rear JDM bumper (used) and started to paint it last week. I'm done, but I haven't found the time to install it onto my car. Since I was only painting the rear bumper this time around...I actually took my time and wetsand between each two coats and let each coat sit overnight (almost 24 hours between each coat). Far less orange peel and runs were apparent...even my neighbors thought I sprayed the bumper instead of rolled it. Also I had time to take pics between each coat and some other detailed pictures. I'm going to use these pictures for my writeup when I find the time to write it up...since I'm going back to school and want to refresh the website. Here is how the bumper looked when I first got it.... You have to roll on the paint very thin...so thin its like your rolling on milk. You get runs and micro bubbles...but that is easily fixed by catching them with the roller. Here is a pic of the runs and bubbles before I used my roller, just to give you an idea of what I was working with.... Here is the final and sixth coat....very clean IMO.... I still need to wetsand and buff the entire car.....BUT...I managed to get the front end out of the way. Its hard to take a pic given its white, but I must say I like the results. Smooth to the touch and quite glossy...and I used 1000 grit, medium rubbing compound and polishing compound. Here is a pic of the hood: http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/buff.jpg Here is a pic of the untouched roof: http://www.ss14.net/pics/writeup/rollerpj/nobuff_1.jpg Notice the reflection of the houses on the hood and the hazy reflection on the roof? I should also note that the car is about 50 ft away from those houses. More to come with time on my side....but for now I'm happy with the results , the amount of money I saved, and the experience I gained. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

08-27-2006, 03:57 PM	#80
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 40 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	100% badass ^^ __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

08-27-2006, 04:30 PM	#82
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^Looks like a taped off windshield squirter to me. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

08-21-2006, 01:50 PM	#62
trybal Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle wa Posts: 299 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	car pictures online are like pictures or girls on myspace. Picture can make her look way sexy but when you see her in person its like wtf mate.... Or the other way around. But your car does look good finished, i love the color white that the picture shows. Its sex

08-21-2006, 02:54 PM	#66
nonissan Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	looks very nice. will this be a detriment if you decide to have it repainted in the future? will it be harder/worse to paint over?....

08-21-2006, 07:39 PM	#70
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes I am aware of that. And you know what? All those classic cars look boring as hell paint-wise compared to a modern car with a metallic/pearl paint job.

08-22-2006, 11:47 AM	#73
slideways2004 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Age: 35 Posts: 1,706 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	i have some questions. do you wetsand the 1st and 2nd coat also? is every coat the same thickness? do people do more or less than 6 coats

08-22-2006, 12:02 PM	#74
CA4All Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta Georgia Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im doing the same thin n my S13 and i hate it. It's taking forever because I pretty spent atleast an hour on wet sanding the part that I painted after 2 coats. 6 coats...that means atleast 3hrs of wetsanding. dear lord...im so tired from it

08-22-2006, 12:27 PM	#75
crazybb Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fort smith, ar Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	tell us how it turns out ca4all.....

08-22-2006, 02:01 PM	#77
Nachtmensch Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dekalb, IL Age: 33 Posts: 698 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dang! thats clean i might have to try this on my crx!

08-22-2006, 02:43 PM	#78
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	looks awesome! congrats!

08-27-2006, 04:28 PM	#81
undesiredshoe Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wisco Age: 32 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	On the hood, is that bird poo or something with the paint??

08-27-2006, 05:05 PM	#83
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 38 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ThatGuy is correct...I removed the windshield washer fluid nozzles and taped from underneath. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

08-27-2006, 05:26 PM	#84
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 40 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Too bad you cant do metallic like this, I would have you come down to NC and roll my hatch. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

09-06-2006, 12:39 PM	#86
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 38 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So I finally wetsand with 1000 grit and buff the car with rubbing compound. Orange peel is apparent in most of the areas due to my rushing and skipping some wetsanding. I can see that patience and attention to detail does help...as my rear bumper looks very good compared to the rest of the car. This pic has some light glare from the car next to me...you can also notice the reflection.... __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

09-06-2006, 01:29 PM	#87
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn good job! I thought about rollin my s14, but I just dont have the time for all the wetsanding. Im currently transforming my garage into a temporary paint booth and ill be resprayin the silver moss except with met.black roof and trunk and hood. SO hopefully ill only have to wetsand it once when im done. anyway looks hella good for $68. __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

09-06-2006, 03:52 PM	#88
ballinnmiami240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: gloucester, VA Age: 42 Posts: 517 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Good job....I'll have to drive up that way and check it out. __________________ 1994 FD3S Drift // 945garage // sumospeed.com

09-06-2006, 05:51 PM	#89
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 35 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn you went from 1k grit straight to compound? brutal.

09-06-2006, 06:03 PM	#90
180sExy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Your mother's bedroom!!! So go tell your dad! Posts: 1,132 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: 180sExy Feedback Score: 1 reviews	all i can say is "wow!!!" i have never seen a how job done that well i wish i could see it in person! __________________ "We have chosen hope over fear."

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