Ruff Ryder 6

Just placed my order for the grip knuckles as well. Can't wait to install

PoorMans180SX

Actually has more travel. You don't need to use spacers on the tie rods to get more travel out of the rack.

Also, the steering shaft is located further outward, making more room for exhaust plumbing.

The mounting system is more robust, with a two bolt flange at one end and a bushing at the other. There's no way for the rack to travel side-to-side.

Lastly, they go for $75 on ebay and are as plentiful as wonderbread, vs. "I want $150 for my 200k leaky rack" s-chassis racks.

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mr.nismo.

Do you know what the turn ratio is?

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PoorMans180SX

15.9:1, 2.6 turns lock to lock. Found via a 30 second google search.

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Well maybe someone can make a weld in kit for them.


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Please excuse my indolence, as I do know better.It looks like it's a real tight space with the mounting ears

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mr.nismo.

Hey everyone I'm in a bit of a situation. Ive grabbed myself gk tech front and rear drop knuckles. I'm stoked for them but I realized looking at the car today I will have clearance issues. I have 18x 9.5 wheels with a 265/35 federals, and tein super drift coilovers. With that setup, the coils are at maximum height adjustnent. I'm dropping down to a 255 but I don't think that will come close to alleviating the drop these knuckles are going to add.
I've seen the idea of strut spacers, but in reality how safe will that be?

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derass

I assume you mean a spacer between the strut and unibody. I also assume that when you say "the coils are at maximum height adjustment", you mean that they are set to their lowest possible ride height.

In that case, I don't think the spacers will help you, you would need to reduce the ride height even further to compensate for them.

mr.nismo.

No I mean at their highest. I have my coils set to lift the car as much as possible. The lower mounts are at the very bottom of the threads on the body. Unless I'm an idiot and I'm not understanding properly. Only referring to the front, the gk tech knuckles (grip knickles) move the spindle location up, while keeping everything else in the same place. Meaning the wheel itself will move upward to the fender. With oem knuckles, my coils are at Max lift and I have just enough gap to be functional. Once these knuckles are on, my wheel would be hitting the fender and I cannot raise the car anymore with the coils, which is why I asked about spacers between the strut and body. I believe I saw someone further up the thread asking as well, but no follow up on what they did.

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junkyiv

I wouldn't think that adding a spacer at the top strut mount would be any less safe than using a wheel spacer, provided that they are properly constructed.

mr.nismo.

Didn't think about it that way. I've been searching up either way, and all I've seen is PMB limit break adapters for the front I could use as spacers, but that's it. I've been looking at the manual for super drifts, and didn't find a safe thread engagement limit for the lower brackets. Just hoping I don't have to get new coilovers because of this.

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tuzzio

I find that strange as my car is much lower than yours (although I have BC BR coilovers) and my damper is threaded a few inches below the lower mount in the front. I'm stoked for my grip knuckles to arrive so I can correct all that junk.

mr.nismo.

Our coils are different, but that makes sense if your car is lowered a lot more than mine. Then the lower bracket would be moved up the shock body, hence you have a lot of threads under it. Even though I'm not coming close to monster truck status, I didn't think about being out of thread.

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PoorMans180SX

You can buy GKtech strut relocation plates, which raise the car about 30mm.

PSSSSST, you're going to break those tie rod ends because they're JUNK.

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mr.nismo.

Fuck for real? The gk tech tie rods are shit? Greaaaat. And I saw those, but unfortunately their site states they are not compatible with super drift coils. So idk. I'm gonna have to see how bad it is and how much clearance I need.

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PoorMans180SX

Ooops, with the boots on I mistook those for Megan Racing tie rod ends hahaahha.

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More Bink Industries sway bar pics added to the OP. I have quite a few suspension bits coming in the mail at this point!

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tuzzio

Never heard of them. Browsed their site, wish that rack centering spacer would fit a stock set up. Pretty neat idea.

shaggyjake

for the front coils have you tried flipping the bracket that mounts to the knuckle? it looks like it could give you a few extra mm...

I had to order longer rear coilover mounts from fortune auto (+60mm longer).

I'm anxious to hear what everyone's thoughts are on the GK TECH grip knuckles!
They look promising.

mr.nismo.

I thought about that, but the welds are on the lower side. The collar would have an uneven clamp on the lower bracket, and probably back off. I'll have to call tein in Downey and see what they can do. I wanted to get them refreshed while I was at it. Also I need new tires, and am going to drop down from a 265/35 r18 down to a 245/35 (wheels are 9.5 square). 9.5 is still in acceptable range of a 245, so hopefully it will help out with some clearance as well.

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jaysgottaredtop

Then put your locking collar on the bottom when you flip the bracket. I’ve run my coils like that for ages.

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Hey, Andy, can we update this on the 1st page with inners and outers?

Inner:
M12x1.25:
11.10" - '89-'94 240sx (S13)
M14x1.5:
11.37" - '95-'98 240sx (S14)
11.42" - '94-'99 Maxima (A32)
11.42" - '96-'99 I30 (A32)
12.00" - '97-'01 Q45 (FY33)
12.00" - '01-'06 Q45 (F50)
12.91" - '99-'03 Maxima (A33)
12.91" - '00-'04 I30 (A33)
13.30" - '03-'08 Maxima (A34)
12.50" - PSM Spherical
14.50" - GKTech Spherical

Outer:
M12x1.25:
x.xx" - '89-'94 240sx (S13)
M14x1.5:
3.63" - '95-'98 240sx (S14)
5.00" - '88-'94 Maxima (J30)
x.xx" - '94-'99 Maxima (A32)


...Something along those lines. Getting longer outers is super helpful in a pinch. I use those 5" Maxima outers on both of my S13s.

If anyone knows of other tie rod lengths or has a correction to make, post it.

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Jorgs_7

Who has actual first hand experience with drastically increasing scrub radius?

I.E running 18x9 +20 front wheels then changing to 18x9 -15 front wheels.

I am curious about steering feel / feedback / entries / drifting.

derass

I tried exactly that for more TC rod / sway bar clearance at full lock. 17x9 +20 with a 35mm spacer.

Even with the spacers, the wheels would still hit the TC/sway, but now with the added downside of rubbing the front and back of the fender going from lock to lock, and also the back of the inner wheel well (firewall).

I didn't even attempt to drive it like that.

jaysgottaredtop

For the past few years I’ve been running +56mm FLCAs, PBM drop knuckles, and 16x9 -32 on 225/45s

Super easy steering. Goes where you point it. Self-steers during transfers. It’s great. It damn near drifts itself.

I noticed a huge handling improvement and bumpsteer reduction when switching to those knuckles. 10/10 would recommend, especially for extra low 240s.

Steering clearance is fine now, but it took a good bit of effort. BFH to the rear and upper sections of the wheel wells, completely cut out the front section of the wheel wells, big flares, and longer fender brackets to bow the front of the fender out some.

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PoorMans180SX

Why that's a great idea sir, consider it done!

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Bnr32gtr

Jay did u move the rack forward or r u running the spacer that move the tie rod forward? And or the spacers/ bushings for the rack that It forward? I'm getting ready to say fuck it and buy the fraction sub frame, can't seem to stop the rack from moving left to right. Looking into the z33 rack is any one running one?

PoorMans180SX

I just got my Z33 rack. Waiting for my crossmember to come back from the chemical dip before I start mocking up the mounting. It would probably be easiest if you had a 350Z front subframe and could just cut and splice.

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Yes, I relocated the rack forward. Cut n shut subframe, poly bushings.

I had the PBM eccentric rack bushings for a while and has issues with the rack slipping left/right when hitting lock.

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Andy, just measured the stock ones off my coupe.

S13 outer is 3.88” measured from threaded end to pivot point.

I also have some S14 and 88-94 Maxima outers in my garage. They match up to those quoted numbers. S14 might be 3.69” (3-11/16) but that’s splitting hairs.

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