colidE

maybe because it would cause so much trouble for the motorists.But really I would like to have one just like in the movies tokyo drift fas and the furious.

takyo_style

rules suck... makes american motorsports so limited...

OBEEWON

Put FD on a mountain. Fix all that is wrong with drifting.

If you are part of the problem you are the problem. lol

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Wabash9000

I vote for this road.
Lariat Loop Rd/Lookout Mountain Rd to Lookout Mountain Rd - Google Maps

tons of corners and switchbacks. Would be a dangerous road but that would add to the thrills.

s14derrick

Would'nt be the first time someone has slid that road haha

DenkiMan!

i sort of agree with this. now correct me if im wrong, but drivers have no problem with going all out because they know they know their on a track and if they fuck up their line, theyll either hit the other driver, clip the wall or go off course or something and maybe lose a bumper, we see this in just about every other run down the track, in D1 as well

(although there have been cases where drivers do hit the wall crazy hard and get hospitalized, def not counting that out - the Saito/Kawabata D1 accident and more)

now im not JR lol, but i would think itd be a little tougher mentally to do this sort of thing when your coming strictly from an open track background, knowing that one fuck up in their driving isnt just a lost bumper from going into the fields of dirt their used to doing, but seriously fucking up their machines hitting a guard rail or even worse maiming a fan humping the rails

i think its a good idea because it would attract alot more fans, but its almost too dangerous i think.

maybe if there was a class that was made up of only the highest skilled drivers and THEY drifted the mountain/touge courses, you might have something there, like the most elite drift class in FD or whatever league would be the most popular...and really good drivers have to be voted into this class or something by the judges, idk my 2c's

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raz0rbladez909

I don't see too much of a problem with it honestly, look at rally drivers and their spectators, always pushing the limits and hell you have spectators running onto the track afterwards lol

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DenkiMan!

^^^ true, but if we are strictly talking about an American touge series, the drivers would have alot less experience with that mountain racing atmosphere as a whole, compared to the professional rally drivers dont u think? hence (in my opinion) the more frequent accidents

i just feel like itd be too dangerous of an idea for it to be an official thing, what with the reputation drifting already has to the unknowing public....ZOMG THEYRE GOING SIDEWAYZ

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raz0rbladez909

I remember quite a few years back the falken team went up to Pikes Peak for a drift demo, I don't recall anyone getting hurt but I do understand where you're coming from, I would say that most drivers that are professionally driving usually have quite a bit of skill and can adapt relatively quickly to different courses no?

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Wake

I was gonna say, if they cant adapt then they arent professional.

I personally know that kazama can drift about anything anywhere.

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DenkiMan!

yea i agree with that, they can adapt quickly. but in talks of making it a series where it would be a regular thing, id hate to sound like buzz killington or extremely negative, but something like that with regular race seasons and what not, but i just dont think the movers and the shakers would go for it...

what i mean by that is wouldnt you have to go through alot of government to get something like this approved since its public roads? in their eyes i bet they dont see the adaptation...just the motorsport of drifting and putting it on steep mountains lol...may not go over well. but like i said i still think its an awesome idea, just complicated if you know what i mean

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Wake

You have to go through a lot of government to get a purpose built track set up.

So yes, anything we do would require a fuckton of red tape.


Once again, America Land of the free.

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raz0rbladez909

Oh most definitely, I'm sure it's already hard enough to reserve a track day for formula d lol

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DenkiMan!

exactly haha, and yea you do have our formula d stars, but what about the lower ranked drivers who aren't that good?

AHA that's when my idea of the touge class being the elite, best class you can be in...and that would force drivers to become better and make less mistakes on the track with the elite touge class as their goal lol.

and comparing kazama or other D1 stars like that I don't think is fair, not saying their better but the majority of the D1 stars got their experience touge racing, if not all of them lol. once again not saying American drivers couldnt do it just as good, just saying it would take a little more adapting than D1 drivers who would be a little more keen and used to that surrounding, just like in video option, those mountains get crowded...it'd be just like home lol

majority of american drivers arent used to that and that adapting is where accidents happen

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Wake

Hence America blowing donkeys int the style and motorsports dept.

I think sometimes people forget the only racing we have contributed in the past 100 years is nascar and the indy 500

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what about tray sliding!

Prime

I find it funny that no one has ever seen Indy running on the streets of Long Beach... which, as I recall from watching footage this year, were on public roads. With street signs swinging gently in the exhaust fumes.

So, it's not as though there is no precedent.

ericcastro

Yeah, cause that half ass touge course in old option videos is so exciting.....

You know how much a California wild fire cost??

And where are people gonna park for this event??


Someone post that old black and white rally picture where the guys is hanging his front tire over the cliff as he drifts.....

they did it at Irwindale, it was a total failure.





The top Formula D drivers can do this all day long.
They make their money driving priceless cars (not in production yet, so they are car 1 of 3 prototypes), Doing a drift or ebrake slide through a real city, dry lake bed or mountain, a couple feet away from a camera crew, and a camera that cost more then their FD car does.

they are used to it.

Now the element of tandem and tire smoke is what gets em phazed at the track. So what you want to see on teh mountain, would probably end up being two cars drifting, 70 feet apart, down the center of the double yellow.


Isnt long beach exactly what we are talking about??
Doesnt Just Drift do contest on Horse Thief Mile?
Wasnt ASB at Streets of Willow?



Exactly what you said, just not tandem
(stop thinking everything drift related comes out of japan. Gatbill looks awesome BTW)

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Stop thinking everyone who dislikes current drifting is automatically some Japan nerd.

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Sorry, that was directed at the 98% that are

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karl wasabi

It would be hard as hell to close off a canyon road for some new event and it would piss a lot of people off. Spectators on the side would be killed. If they were racing, why would they drift? Drifting is slower than actual racing. Drift race is an oxymoron. They would have to have like a million judges for all the corners or a helicopter following each car or something.

I would LOVE to see an FD comp at a more grassroots track like Horse Thief Mile or Streets of Willow. You get that street feel without being on actual streets.

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fckillerbee

ummm...you can't compare FD to indy cars. The amount of money in an indy cars franchise could fund all of FD. shit. yesterday I just found out what formula 1's budget for a season is. and let me tell you....i fucking threw up it was that much.

http://www.fastmachines.com/f1/the-price-of-formula-1/


so you take all the money of indy cars, and put that into FD. you will have the dopest drivers from the world competing on the dopest tracks.

towlie

What the hell is formula D going to do with that amount of money?

Drift ferraris on tracks made of gold?

Compared to most motorsports, drifting is cheap.

Matej

It does not have to be a dangerous road nor a busy road, as any curvy paved park street/backroad would do. Also, it definitely would not need to be a rally-length course, 5-10 turns would suffice. Formula D events have one more turn than Nascar, which is pathetic for a 'motorsport' that is based on turning.

Prime

Well, Indy and F1 are completely different things, for one. For two, I never compared the cars or the budgets. I was simply addressing the people saying things like "The US sucks, nothing ever happens/it's impossible/blahblahblah". Sure, drifting the streets of Long Beach might be a stretch. But if Tanner Foust can get Mulholland, you think the entirety of a racing body he is a part of couldn't get something similar?

If you can sell it, it can happen. Period. Otherwise things like Formula D would never have started in the first place. Also, all of an Indy car franchise is not all of Formula D. Indy cars are basically kit cars. Every single piece of every single car is available to every single driver. The motors are standardized, the spaceframes, and you can run any aero you want so long as it's available to other teams. There have been straight up privateer teams running in Indy with no sponsors. Is it a lot of money? Sure. Is it F1 money?

Matej

Drift series in Poland.

drift freaq

^^^^ that is pretty damn cool and so would not fly stateside. Except at like the Long Beach Grand Prix and what not.

Oh and Tanner Foust got Mulholland because this Is Hollywood and anything involving the word film pretty much gets a green light. Oh and for quite a price. Plus the people that live on Mulholland will put up with the road being closed off for a day for filming, but not for a motorsports competition event. LOL forget it. Trust me money was passed around that is how it works. Oh and no they would not want to be paid extra to have all the people and the cars. A lot of very wealthy and famous people live up that road. They value the privacy and bitch enough about who run the road , bikes and cars already.

Oh and don't doubt what Castro says about this. He works on film crews and knows what it takes to close off the roads and all about the money being passed around. LOL

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