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Old 04-18-2011, 08:15 AM   #61
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New update from IGN.

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Sources now confirm to IGN the new Nintendo controller allows players to stream entire games to the device from the console, saying it's like a miniature television. The screen size on the controller is also confirmed to be six inches in size.
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6 inches? I don't want to be holding a giant gameboy while I'm trying to play a real game. And I don't want to spend $150 for a controller.

Keep it simple Nintendo
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Here's IGN's rendering of what it could look like.
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Here's IGN's rendering of what it could look like.
ah, who am i kidding, i'd buy the Nintendo Dreamcast HD
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Anyone remember playing NFL 2K on Dreamcast and being able to call your plays on your controller so your buddy couldn't see what play you chose? That was awesome. I'm actually surprised touchscreens haven't made it into controllers sooner.
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When the PS3 came out, it was the cheapest blu ray player on the market and a very good one also. If you want to complain about price, quit being such a fucking poor.
I'm an engineer. I make a very comfortable salary. Doesn't mean I want to waste $600 on a video game system.
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I'm an engineer. I make a very comfortable salary. Doesn't mean I want to waste $600 on a video game system.
NO! That means you are a fucking poor!


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6 inches? I don't want to be holding a giant gameboy while I'm trying to play a real game. And I don't want to spend $150 for a controller.

Keep it simple Nintendo
Yeah I dont see the point to this controller? They toyed with this notion before on Gamecube before and it failed (not entire games though). PS3 has similar thing with PSP. Hmmm...decide wether to play on my 50 inch HD screen or 6 inch lcd. Funny how their going back to a normal controller though?....unless they will still use the wii controller as well.
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it's strange so many of you don't see the usefulness of a screen on your controller. ever seen a dashboard in a car?
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it's strange so many of you don't see the usefulness of a screen on your controller. ever seen a dashboard in a car?
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Anyone remember playing NFL 2K on Dreamcast and being able to call your plays on your controller so your buddy couldn't see what play you chose? That was awesome. I'm actually surprised touchscreens haven't made it into controllers sooner.
I'd liek to see this implemented again. So much can be done with that extra screen. And if you think about it, it basically turns the controller into an interface with an unlimited amount of buttons. No limitations.
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Nintendo lost me after N64.

I think this console is going to be a big flop to be honest.
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Sony is 5 years away from a next gen system...I'm guessing it's the same for Microsoft.

I suppose since Nintendo's systems are so rudimentary (and profitable), they can have much shorter life cycles and get away with it.
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I'd liek to see this implemented again. So much can be done with that extra screen. And if you think about it, it basically turns the controller into an interface with an unlimited amount of buttons. No limitations.
So many uses??...No limitations?? How so?...Unlimited buttons WTF? do you think Nintendo is going to make something so complex to confuse all the kids playing their games...Its useless...People generally look at their tvs when playing its dumb to look down at your controller for something.....What does a dashboard have to do with anything? I think he was being sarcastic....who constantly looks at their dashboard for anything....lmao
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So many uses??...No limitations?? How so?...Unlimited buttons WTF? do you think Nintendo is going to make something so complex to confuse all the kids playing their games...Its useless...People generally look at their tvs when playing its dumb to look down at your controller for something.....What does a dashboard have to do with anything? I think he was being sarcastic....who constantly looks at their dashboard for anything....lmao
Man, you are one of the most negative people I've ever seen on here. lol. I know people like you and I tend not to associate with them.

I know Nintendo has never made a good game, or a good console, or a good controller, so I can understand why you'd think they'd never be able to pull this off...

I personally wasn't a fan of the N64, but you can't argue with games like Mario 64, Ocirana of Time, Golden Eye (I could keep going), and the fact that they were the first to use an analog stick. I bet you would have thought that was crazy, useless, doomed to fail, when you first heard about it too. If the entire industry went by your standards we would still be playing 8 bit games with controllers with d-pads. lol
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You guys aren't thinking outside the box. I am sure that Nintendo does not intend for you to spend all of your time staring at the controller instead of the TV. But there are all sorts of useful option opened up by a touchscreen.

exitspeed mentioned being able to set up football plays in secret.

You could also have your inventory displayed on the touchscreen in an FPS or Zelda-like game. If you want to use or equip an item, you just tap its icon on the screen instead of pulling up a menu and scrolling around to the item.

You could draw on the screen. Say you are playing an FPS with some friends online. You want to coordinate movement. The game displays a map on the touchscreen and you can draw on it and your friends can see your marks without you having to describe everything.

In a racing game, the screen can act as your instrument panel instead of taking up space on the TV, or it could display a map of the course, or it could be your rear-view mirror.

Think of all the games for iphones or ipads that use swiping or tapping for the interface. These kinds of inputs could be used in a game.
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Man, you are one of the most negative people I've ever seen on here. lol. I know people like you and I tend not to associate with them.

I know Nintendo has never made a good game, or a good console, or a good controller, so I can understand why you'd think they'd never be able to pull this off...

I personally wasn't a fan of the N64, but you can't argue with games like Mario 64, Ocirana of Time, Golden Eye (I could keep going), and the fact that they were the first to use an analog stick. I bet you would have thought that was crazy, useless, doomed to fail, when you first heard about it too. If the entire industry went by your standards we would still be playing 8 bit games with controllers with d-pads. lol
Nintendo escapes patent troll in appeals court -- thanks to Sony -- Engadget
it was atari first but, it was sony who first release the dual analog before even n64 or saturn. but who really cares because it was release on the same year.



it would be sweet if you can link and use the 3ds as controller use its top & touchscreen. i remember you can do this with a psp to ps3 already. it would be a nice feature.
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nintendo needs to come up with new characters, Mario is tight. but really, theres only 1 story to it.

Loved the 007 though. Love that first person shooter besides Duck hunt.

IDK, im a big FPS gamer. Not in to strategic games like WOW or w/e. Although i play GOW and MGS. If those are even considered strategic games.
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You guys aren't thinking outside the box. I am sure that Nintendo does not intend for you to spend all of your time staring at the controller instead of the TV. But there are all sorts of useful option opened up by a touchscreen.

exitspeed mentioned being able to set up football plays in secret.

You could also have your inventory displayed on the touchscreen in an FPS or Zelda-like game. If you want to use or equip an item, you just tap its icon on the screen instead of pulling up a menu and scrolling around to the item.

You could draw on the screen. Say you are playing an FPS with some friends online. You want to coordinate movement. The game displays a map on the touchscreen and you can draw on it and your friends can see your marks without you having to describe everything.

In a racing game, the screen can act as your instrument panel instead of taking up space on the TV, or it could display a map of the course, or it could be your rear-view mirror.

Think of all the games for iphones or ipads that use swiping or tapping for the interface. These kinds of inputs could be used in a game.
The small minded folks in this thread will have no idea what how to interpret what you just posted.
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I love wii, of course though i got it a few months ago and is modded to play back ups lol.

They could probably still leave the Wii in production with its controls and just make this new system to cater towards more adult/hardcore audience.
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Man, you are one of the most negative people I've ever seen on here. lol. I know people like you and I tend not to associate with them.

I know Nintendo has never made a good game, or a good console, or a good controller, so I can understand why you'd think they'd never be able to pull this off...

I personally wasn't a fan of the N64, but you can't argue with games like Mario 64, Ocirana of Time, Golden Eye (I could keep going), and the fact that they were the first to use an analog stick. I bet you would have thought that was crazy, useless, doomed to fail, when you first heard about it too. If the entire industry went by your standards we would still be playing 8 bit games with controllers with d-pads. lol
Not being negative but your letting your FANBOYISM get the best of you. lol I take no offense if you wouldnt associate with me....lol I'm thinking from a practical point of view. It has already been done and its not practical....Gamecube had that thing with Wind Waker and the gameboy advance, but after that what games used it?? Nothing....You dont refute my thoughts you just go back into fanboy mode respond with N64 and thumbstick? I never questioned the N64....lol I love that Nintendo always re-invents the way we play. I like the wii and its controls (but games suck)....But this new remote is nothing new or innovative...I dont want a massive screened remote thing in my hands....but you sound really happy to get this 6 inch thing in yours....

The whole Footbal secret play thing is dumb you can still make a selection on screen without it highlighting what you chose. The Maddens have the plays on screen with a button designated to each. What difference is a screen on the control going to make?

Axiomatik.....your ideas are cool but if you think about it they wouldnt work.
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I'm sure he didn't think about it. lol.

Again, I'm not just being a fanboy. I'm giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt. Just as I would with Sony and MS.
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Annnnd further proof this is about to go down. Wii is getting it's first price drop.
Nintendo Wii Gets a Price Drop - Wii News at IGN

Bundles at $170 and console at $149.

Nintendo has been adamant about not doing price drops on the Wii because sales have been strong.
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The idea of a touchscreen controller has grown on me a little, it just sounds like that will make it really expensive. It would be really cool if it could function as a stand alone handheld system. But 6 inches seems oversized.

Picturing the perfect touchscreen/motion/classic style controller. I'm seeing basically a ps3 controller with a Droid X attached to the top.
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I have yet to get a Wii, yet here they are bringing out the next next gen... ugh. Being broke sucks.
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That drop price probably had to do with the kinect and move taking away sales.
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Hopefully this won't be the new gamecube, lol

I'd like to see some serious new game development before I will take it seriously
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even with a screen on the controller, it would be useless unless you hold the controller directly in front of you and parallel to the screen. Any game with a pace faster than a rpg wouldn't allow you to look at a little screen on your controller. Yes you could take quick glances, but that wouldn't work if the screen contained anything useful that you needed to deal with in the game. It sounds cool, but when thinking about it, for any gaming not directed at solo play or children's games, it wouldn't work especially online with competitive games.
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The idea of a touchscreen controller has grown on me a little, it just sounds like that will make it really expensive. It would be really cool if it could function as a stand alone handheld system. But 6 inches seems oversized.

Picturing the perfect touchscreen/motion/classic style controller. I'm seeing basically a ps3 controller with a Droid X attached to the top.
Agreed on both parts. I pictured a ps3ish controller with an Iphone and top and thought how big it it would to be to have a 6 inch screen. As much as controllers get dropped/stepped on this screen does make things sound expensive. I can see $80-120 for something like that.

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even with a screen on the controller, it would be useless unless you hold the controller directly in front of you and parallel to the screen. Any game with a pace faster than a rpg wouldn't allow you to look at a little screen on your controller. Yes you could take quick glances, but that wouldn't work if the screen contained anything useful that you needed to deal with in the game. It sounds cool, but when thinking about it, for any gaming not directed at solo play or children's games, it wouldn't work especially online with competitive games.
I disagree on the pace thing, I think a person could accommodate to the screen. Take Dead Space for instance. Imagine the little Y in game screen on the controller screen instead, a quick glance down and you could tap the health you desperate need before the monster starts eating your ass.

I also think the above is why we are all so ehhh on the screen. We are comparing it to games we have now. I would think with a system like this Nintendo would have to re-think how games are played.

I look at it like this, a lot of the people were ehh about the Wii and look what it did, change the way we play games and force Sony and MS to play catch up.

I'm not saying this will be a game changer like the Wii, but it has possibility. Time will tell.
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I could picture some pretty intuitive weapon switching/reloading capabilities in a touch screen. I know in the modern warfare games I love/hate hardcore modes,
I like the uncluttered main view, I dont like not knowing my ammo/map situation.

My problem with it, is that the uses I imagine for it would be glorified touchpads, with a lot of extra cost attached.

In the next Mario Kart, there could be an attack that screws up your TV view until you complete a quick puzzle on the touch screen.
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