MovinUp-1

What truenocoupe is saying is that his starting point should be at the track, not the parts store. The only way to know what to improve is to first find out what is weakest by DRIVING the car. Seat time will lower your lap times more than any modification will when you first start out.

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Delta Region SCCA
SM 1990 240SX SR20DET

adey

It's good to hear that there're people out there with empirical evidence showing the safety (or rather "not unsafeness") of running spacers! Your input is much appreciated.

As much as I'd like to say this is great news, I don't have the cash to make up for this weight any way... at all. Except maybe by only eating every other day for 2 months. j/k. Good info!

I'm curious though - do you race competitively, and when (pre)teching, have any techs complained or pointed out your spacers?
Cheers!

240Stilo

Wow...this really turned into a "are spacers safe" thread. Friggin hi-jackers.

On a side note...it's good to see people have had no problems with spacers on the track.

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DS 240R

Yes, I do race competitively and no, no one has ever complained about my spacers.

DS 240R

Well, there's not much action in the Motorsports forum. Gotta take any opportunity we get.

Replicant_S14

lol, how come some people who track their cars assume everyone else only drives theirs to the mall and back? I mean crap, from the looks of it I'd say half the folks here use their car in some sort of motorsport.

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MovinUp-1

To some of us there is a difference between the casual enthusiast who might make an autocross every now and then and those of us that plan our lives around the events calendar for the year. Vacation with the family can only happen in this week in june because I don't have a race those two weekends. You understand what I'm saying. While there may not be a lot of talk in the motorsports section here, it's a lot better than some of the other sites. 240sx forums is full of "drift kings".

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AceInHole

my .02: i daily drive my car, but autocross comes first, and i run wheel spacers so my tires clear my shocks.

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memphiss13

where are you guys buying your spacers and what brand?

DS 240R

My spacers are generic 4x100 for my NX2000. I believe I got them at Pep Boys. They are supposed to be 1/4", but are closer to 7mm. They were $10, which fit the racing budget.

DS 240R

Exactly. This year it is May for me. When you are really crazy about racing (or maybe just plain crazy) you get a tow vehicle like this:

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glc

Never compare karts to cars as they have nothing in common. Karts dont have suspension.

btw my kart handles better than all your cars combined

240Stilo

Cars have four wheels....so do karts. Take that for nothing in common. The lack of suspension might be comparable to a very stiff suspension.

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ryan hagen

think, if u run 7mm spacers how much thread will be left for the lug nut, what is the safe turn number? if i remember right alot of tracks require that the lug nut make so many turns befor its tight? but if u run stock studs with a spacer u risk poping lug nuts off if your spacer is thicker than i think 5mm??

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Salty_X

I've found this website to be very useful. In it you'll notice that they make mention of widening track (both front and rear) to create a more oversteer-prone suspension setup.

One way for us S13 guys to widen our front track is to install S14 LCAs, which gives about 10mm more per side.

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ryan hagen

lol damn, i just was about to toss soem s14 fornt lca's, i took the good ball joint out of one to keep as a back up. hmm, maybe i ll have to look into that after i get my new rims and wide fenders on....

oh i ran 225-40-17 on 17*7 last summer, and got rid of 2 of the tires, and had big brakes on the front so i ran the 17's on the fornt and se wheel on the back with cheap 195 wide tires, all it was good for was donuts and burn outs, cause when i tried to slide corners it would spin too easy and the fornt gripped to much, it always resulted in a donut cause of too poor of traction, and in general it handled like shit.but i got rid of the rims to get some wider lower offset ones.

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DS 240R

In my original post I said I was running the 60mm Nismo studs, so there is plenty of thread left. Probably too much- next time I'll get the 50mm studs.

knghtryde

I'm happy with my 225 45 17 fronts and my 245 45 17 rears. I have plenty of traction, this with my KYB AGX's, sport line springs, strut tower braces, tension rods, Tien tie rods with spacers, ST sway bars, and my power brace.

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1989 S13 KA24ET
1990 Infiniti Q45

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West

Got any pics of your tire/wheel setup on your car? Im about to get 225/45/17 front and 245/40 or 45/17 rear. Thanks!

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knghtryde

Naw, but once my brother gets back from Mexico with my DigiCam I can take some for you. It looks really clean and it's smooth. I'm going to run 235 45 17 fronts and 245 45 17 rears next time around since I found that they fit perfectly fine.

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1989 S13 KA24ET
1990 Infiniti Q45

To push oneself to the limit is all that
one can do. To quit is to die.

glc

The chair that Im sitting in has 6 wheels, so did the '76 Tyrell... one rolls back and forth as I get up and down, the other won a grand prix.

I dont know much about how suspension works on cars, but I do know a bit about how karts turn. I drove a single seater once (obviously race prepped, w/ much stiffer suspension than your roadcars would ever rock), it was very different from a kart.

Karts must lift the inside rear to turn, the reason the rear track is typically so much wider (it gets very close in rain setup) is because the kart relies on weight jacking to turn. If the front gets too wide it will cause to much weight jacking and the IR will lift too much and start to oscilate and cause the kart to 'hop'.

Xren17

Just to let everyone know, you can get nismo studs from http://www.performancenissanparts.co...roducts_id=161
for $54 and they're located in Socal. I'm picking up some later today.