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WhiteDouki · 06-13-2012, 09:07 AM

doing a auto manual swap soon and wondering which clutch setup to go with. putting a gt35 turbo on after the swap, lookin a 250-300 hp. not looking to spend a shit ton thought.

WhiteDouki · 06-14-2012, 08:18 AM

nobody has a personal preference on a clutch setup for a s14 kouki?

***enkei2k*** · 06-14-2012, 08:27 AM

I always thought that clutches were based on TQ not HP. There's a lot of reputable ones out there. Seaching is key...Exedy, ACT, Competition, OS Giken. But if you're not willing to spend a lot, I guess Spec is your answer, although I've heard some mixed reviews about them.

ShadowDrifter · 06-15-2012, 04:16 AM

Depends on what you plan on doing with the car. If you just want a badass street car go with spec. Stock feel grabs pretty good. If you want something with more bite go ACT or Exedy. Stay away from comp clutches they are crap IMO. Like everyone said its all about you and how you drive. Take some time and look at what you will be doing and how much TQ you are gonna make and go from there.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-15-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDouki

doing a auto manual swap soon and wondering which clutch setup to go with. putting a gt35 turbo on after the swap, lookin a 250-300 hp. not looking to spend a shit ton thought.

GT35 turbo? Shit will be barely spooling to put down 300hp. I made 500hp on it with an SR. Clutch I was using was an OS Giken TS2B.

WhiteDouki · 06-18-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

GT35 turbo? Shit will be barely spooling to put down 300hp. I made 500hp on it with an SR. Clutch I was using was an OS Giken TS2B.

my friend is running the same turbo on his car with almost the same setup i will be running and it runs like a champ

WhiteDouki · 06-18-2012, 01:56 PM

i just bought a f1 extreme stage 4 clutch. hope its not shit.... anyone running this?

Sileighty_85 · 06-18-2012, 02:15 PM

why do ppl buy shit first then ask if its any good.

if you buy a performace clutch for less than $200 its gonna be a pile of shit

F1 Racing clutches - DO NOT BUY!!!!. - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-18-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

why do ppl buy shit first then ask if its any good.

if you buy a performace clutch for less than $200 its gonna be a pile of shit

F1 Racing clutches - DO NOT BUY!!!!. - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash

Eh, he'll be alright, he's only shooting for 300. If he makes over that (which he will), that clutch will spit out its rivets out or the pressure plate will literally fall apart.

Sileighty_85 · 06-18-2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Eh, he'll be alright, he's only shooting for 300. If he makes over that (which he will), that clutch will spit out its rivets out or the pressure plate will literally fall apart.

even still, That would scare the shit out of me if I were to drift that or operate it under High RPMs. If that thing grenaded around 6K RPM's id be worried for my legs unless i had a scatter shield.

I know it would destroy the bellhousing but not sure if it would make it past the tunnel but wouldnt wanna try to find out.

WhiteDouki · 06-19-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

why do ppl buy shit first then ask if its any good.

if you buy a performace clutch for less than $200 its gonna be a pile of shit

F1 Racing clutches - DO NOT BUY!!!!. - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash

so then whats the dollar amount you put on a clutch that makes it not a pile of shit?

jr_ss · 06-18-2012, 04:05 PM

Because people are cheap Sileighty. They want good products at a cheap price, unfortunately that's not how it works. Send the clutch back along with the GT35 and buy products that are Quality, not knock-off shit.

RPS, Exedy, ORC, OS Giken, etc, the list goes on of good clutches. You'll hate your response and driveability with that turbo, get a GT2871r, supporting mods and call it a day.

WhiteDouki · 06-19-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jr_ss

Because people are cheap Sileighty. They want good products at a cheap price, unfortunately that's not how it works. Send the clutch back along with the GT35 and buy products that are Quality, not knock-off shit.

RPS, Exedy, ORC, OS Giken, etc, the list goes on of good clutches. You'll hate your response and driveability with that turbo, get a GT2871r, supporting mods and call it a day.

whats wrong with a gt35 turbo? just not quality? i bought cxracing turbo kit(which i have a feeling someone is goin to hate on that too). im guessing there cheap and shity too?

jr_ss · 06-19-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDouki

whats wrong with a gt35 turbo? just not quality? i bought cxracing turbo kit(which i have a feeling someone is goin to hate on that too). im guessing there cheap and shity too?

If it is infact a real Garrett GT35r, it is quality. I said sell it because that turbo is capable of more than 550hp. You can't do that on a stock bottomend, it has been done, but they don't last long and based on this post, you don't have the knowledge or capability to reach that power level yet.

Yes, people run 2-3000 dollar clutches. I have a 2k clutch behind my motor

In short, buy a turbo closer to 300hp level goal. Sell the clutch or return to vendor and get a real one.

future · 06-18-2012, 04:18 PM

A 35r for 300? Why waste the turbo?

Okinawandrifter87 · 06-18-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by future

A 35r for 300? Why waste the turbo?

Because he doesn't know what clutch to buy

WhiteDouki · 06-19-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by future

A 35r for 300? Why waste the turbo?

are they made for more than that?

SLiDe_WaYz · 06-19-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDouki

whats wrong with a gt35 turbo? just not quality? i bought cxracing turbo kit(which i have a feeling someone is goin to hate on that too). im guessing there cheap and shity too?

LMFAO, not only did you buy one the shittiest Chinese clutches made, you wasted money on a Chinese turbo kit. Obviously your just buying shit based upon what you want. 1st off a GT35 a real one is rated at 400+ for 250-300 you should have kept the stock T25 and ran 12psi and yielded 250-280hp. A GT35 won't even begin to spool at the numbers your wanting all your going to get is lag and watch your car fall on its face.

You wasted money on that shitty clutch and that god awful "turbo kit" the only thing remotely of value in that "kit" is a intercooler and pipes and even then it's terrible quality and most of the time bad fitment.

WhiteDouki · 06-19-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SLiDe_WaYz

LMFAO, not only did you buy one the shittiest Chinese clutches made, you wasted money on a Chinese turbo kit. Obviously your just buying shit based upon what you want. 1st off a GT35 a real one is rated at 400+ for 250-300 you should have kept the stock T25 and ran 12psi and yielded 250-280hp. A GT35 won't even begin to spool at the numbers your wanting all your going to get is lag and watch your car fall on its face.

You wasted money on that shitty clutch and that god awful "turbo kit" the only thing remotely of value in that "kit" is a intercooler and pipes and even then it's terrible quality and most of the time bad fitment.

ok i said 300 bc i dont know what it will actually hold up to being a bone stock motor. im looking to put more down than that but i figured i would have to have supporting motor mods. which is why i have another ka sitting in the garage. (since were on the subject i guess someone can help me out on what to do to the motor) but thanks to all for telling me which clutch to buy now i will know for when this one goes to shit.

Sileighty_85 · 06-19-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDouki

ok i said 300 bc i dont know what it will actually hold up to being a bone stock motor.

Stop right there.... Seriously your expecting a 20 year old bone stock motor to hold up to over 300hp?

ppl will say yeah man my KA is running over 300, but it will be short lived depending on how hard they boost it. The pistons will eventually melt

EDIT: did'nt see this until now

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Originally Posted by WhiteDouki

so then whats the dollar amount you put on a clutch that makes it not a pile of shit?

I have what you refer to as the Outrageously expensive baller clutch : Twin Plate OS Giken, Unfortunatly they dont make one for KA's. Not really familiar with KA brand clutches. but def wont buy something cheap that rotates up to 7,000 RPM's next to my feet

you need a proven quality clutch. this is where searching come into play.

BossHogg · 07-18-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

Stop right there.... Seriously your expecting a 20 year old bone stock motor to hold up to over 300hp?

ppl will say yeah man my KA is running over 300, but it will be short lived depending on how hard they boost it. The pistons will eventually melt

EDIT: did'nt see this until now

I have what you refer to as the Outrageously expensive baller clutch : Twin Plate OS Giken, Unfortunatly they dont make one for KA's. Not really familiar with KA brand clutches. but def wont buy something cheap that rotates up to 7,000 RPM's next to my feet

you need a proven quality clutch. this is where searching come into play.

Don't know where you get info from. But you can reliably run 300 hp on a stock KA. IF things check out ok before hand (compression/leak down) AND you actually tune your shit well (no piggy back BS). It is situational. But judging by how this thread has gone, the OP will be blowing shit up left and right. Also OS Giken clutch's will fit KA24DE.......just look at their application charts.

future · 06-19-2012, 09:14 AM

It will make 400+

If you want 300go for something small like a t28. A 35r will make 500 with the right setup

WhiteDouki · 06-19-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by future

It will make 400+

If you want 300go for something small like a t28. A 35r will make 500 with the right setup

ok so ill go for 500 then. other than the clutch. what needs to be done to support 500hp

WhiteDouki · 06-19-2012, 09:38 AM

everybody keeps bring up os giken.... from what i saw they are between 2000 and 3000... thats more than i paid for the car. people really run these?

***enkei2k*** · 06-19-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDouki

everybody keeps bring up os giken.... from what i saw they are between 2000 and 3000... thats more than i paid for the car. people really run these?

You're doing it wrong. And yes, people actually run these because they're proven to work and not blow up after 20 miles.

OS Giken STR Clutch for Nissan SR20DET Silvia

*s13 drifta* · 06-19-2012, 10:01 AM

I think the title of this thread should be "Which will fail first, my ebay clutch or turbo kit?" It's funny how kids ask which parts are good, then just go buy ebay junk.

WhiteDouki · 06-19-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by s13 drifta

I think the title of this thread should be "Which will fail first, my ebay clutch or turbo kit?" It's funny how kids ask which parts are good, then just go buy ebay junk.

someone on here listed off clutches to buy and 2 of the name brands are on ebay

**Phlip** · 06-19-2012, 10:44 AM

You are not reading peoples responses, are you?

If not, you're SURELY not comprehending them.

You have entirely too much turbo for what you want to do with it. Sell the turbo, buy a smaller one like a T25 or T28 (both have been suggested). With the money you have left over, buy a clutch with better reviews than the one you have.
If that is not clear enough for you to understand, I strongly suggest you either sit down one weekend, search and read to try and grasp what you have gotten yourself into or just sell your whole car before it ruins your life.

WhiteDouki · 06-19-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by s13 drifta

I think the title of this thread should be "Which will fail first, my ebay clutch or turbo kit?" It's funny how kids ask which parts are good, then just go buy ebay junk.

and how am i considered a kid just because im new to the 240 scene? which is why im on here to try and figure it out

*s13 drifta* · 06-19-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDouki

and how am i considered a kid just because im new to the 240 scene? which is why im on here to try and figure it out

It sounds like you are new to cars all together, which means you are most likely a kid. You bought a 240sx, want to bolt on cheap parts, and make the car fast. Sorry to burst your bubble, but fast and cheap don't go together. If you want to do something right use the search button and find the answers to your questions before you buy junk.

06-13-2012, 09:07 AM	#1
WhiteDouki Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Which clutch? doing a auto manual swap soon and wondering which clutch setup to go with. putting a gt35 turbo on after the swap, lookin a 250-300 hp. not looking to spend a shit ton thought.

06-14-2012, 08:27 AM	#3
*enkei2k* Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: over the river and through the woods Age: 36 Posts: 7,160 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	I always thought that clutches were based on TQ not HP. There's a lot of reputable ones out there. Seaching is key...Exedy, ACT, Competition, OS Giken. But if you're not willing to spend a lot, I guess Spec is your answer, although I've heard some mixed reviews about them. __________________ Ask enkei2k xquizitditz

06-15-2012, 04:16 AM	#4
ShadowDrifter Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Pittston PA Age: 40 Posts: 1,076 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	Depends on what you plan on doing with the car. If you just want a badass street car go with spec. Stock feel grabs pretty good. If you want something with more bite go ACT or Exedy. Stay away from comp clutches they are crap IMO. Like everyone said its all about you and how you drive. Take some time and look at what you will be doing and how much TQ you are gonna make and go from there. __________________ Drifters Do It Sideways

06-18-2012, 02:15 PM	#8
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	why do ppl buy shit first then ask if its any good. if you buy a performace clutch for less than $200 its gonna be a pile of shit F1 Racing clutches - DO NOT BUY!!!!. - SR20 Community Forum - The Dash __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

06-18-2012, 04:05 PM	#12
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,052 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Because people are cheap Sileighty. They want good products at a cheap price, unfortunately that's not how it works. Send the clutch back along with the GT35 and buy products that are Quality, not knock-off shit. RPS, Exedy, ORC, OS Giken, etc, the list goes on of good clutches. You'll hate your response and driveability with that turbo, get a GT2871r, supporting mods and call it a day. __________________ My SR20VET

06-14-2012, 08:18 AM	#2
WhiteDouki Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nobody has a personal preference on a clutch setup for a s14 kouki?

06-18-2012, 01:56 PM	#7
WhiteDouki Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i just bought a f1 extreme stage 4 clutch. hope its not shit.... anyone running this?

06-19-2012, 09:38 AM	#24
WhiteDouki Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	everybody keeps bring up os giken.... from what i saw they are between 2000 and 3000... thats more than i paid for the car. people really run these?

06-19-2012, 10:01 AM	#26
s13 drifta Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gardnerville,NV Posts: 2,515 Trader Rating: (105) Feedback Score: 105 reviews	I think the title of this thread should be "Which will fail first, my ebay clutch or turbo kit?" It's funny how kids ask which parts are good, then just go buy ebay junk. __________________ PM me for s13 or s14 parts!

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