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Mi Beardo es Loco · 06-05-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESmorz

Sexually repressed women!!!!!

but not little boys. Just ask their priests.

aNskY · 06-05-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Soooshi

If you HAVE to sing a hymn, don't.

Run DMC - Its Trickkkkkay!

I dare you.

svensko · 06-05-2009, 05:01 PM

Tell them you already attend a different church and wouldn't be comfortable with switching.

lflkajfj12123 · 06-05-2009, 05:11 PM

i wear all black and metallica shirts when i'm dragged to church

Bubbles · 06-05-2009, 10:07 PM

You gotta sell out to eat out.

ms!3 · 06-05-2009, 10:15 PM

Is it really that hard to attend an hour long service on a sunday morning?

***Future240*** · 06-05-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MS!3

Is it really that hard to attend an hour long service on a sunday morning?

Not all churches are an hour long. And would you want to attend an hour or more hearing something you didn't believe in?

I think it is so......catholic of them to make you attend just for a job. Sigh...give the rest of us christians a bad name. Extremists FTL

cserrano86 · 06-06-2009, 12:41 AM

Don't do it...
That is all...

Matej · 06-06-2009, 12:48 AM

Do it.

When you quit they will all be agnositcs/atheists.

flip3d · 06-06-2009, 10:51 AM

I wouldn't do it. They will try to push their beliefs on you. That's the Christian way :P

RurouniMidnight · 06-06-2009, 11:03 AM

Go for it, seems you have the right idea about it and who knows you might acctully attend service and like it, just stay positive about the whole thing also this could lead to something else and open up other doors in your life who knows

YoungGun · 06-06-2009, 11:09 AM

I would do it.

+1 for ipod and sitting in the back.

Touge Noob S13 · 06-06-2009, 02:39 PM

What type of religon is it anyways busted?

sb253 · 06-06-2009, 02:40 PM

nope 23456

HyperTek · 06-06-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MS!3

Is it really that hard to attend an hour long service on a sunday morning?

thats what im saying.. a job is a job and that is a requirement for it... what you do is attend for the first while.. then start not going, i doubt they will take roll lol.. just play it off like "oh you guys dont see me? i come in at the back and leave b4 everyon else, i have a few other commitments so i cant stay too long, wish i coulld though... ". or start goin every other week lol.. They will build up a better trusting relationship with you, they know you wont do anything wrong.. thats where you can start slacking lol. But its for a website, im sure they would like the website updated with weekly updates on the sermons etc.

Than again if you dont agree with that, pass it up. Theres alot of people who would love to have that job for now, so let someone else get it.

***S14DB*** · 06-06-2009, 03:11 PM

There is a radical difference between an agnostic and an atheist.

Agnosticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I can see you doing this as an agnostic.
Agnostic theism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I can not see an Atheist doing this. Atheism is anti-theism, totally against religion. They would catch on fast.

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Originally Posted by PHLIP

Legally:
No one can stipulate, as a terms of employment, that one attend religious services unless the duties of the position require that you be there and in the services.

Realistically:
Would you want to fight with a group of potential hick-ass midwestern religious zealots over such a legality, then actually deal with the nonsense that would come with KEEPING the job?

Fundamentally:
Eventually the bullshit that would come with faking it would cause you to buckle. If you come clean about just going through the motions, then there will be a competition to make you one of them.

No, it is not worth selling out for.

They can get away with it if they require you to attend any Church/Synagogue/Mosque/House of Worship of your choosing. Not requiring you to go to their Church or one of their faith. They also can not say that you can not attend a certain religion's services.

Anything more then a I go to "obscure religion's" services should suffice. But with a church the odds of them running into the leader of the services you claim to go to is much higher.

BustedS13 · 06-06-2009, 03:16 PM

guess i'll be getting all the answers thursday, eeeek

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Originally Posted by Touge Noob S13

What type of religon is it anyways busted?

nondenominational Christian. you know, the fun-lovin' ones. guitars during service and shit.

SochBAT · 06-07-2009, 02:57 AM

^^

They practice with Rockband.

SochBAT · 06-07-2009, 03:00 AM

"Oh, busteds13, are you religious?"

"Oh no, I have a lot of premarital sex. and I support abortion."

ryguy · 06-07-2009, 08:13 AM

Actually, legally, Missouri is an At Will state. They can fire you if you don't go to church. Hell, they can fire you if they don't like the way your farts smell.

ixfxi · 06-07-2009, 08:30 AM

the benefit of making a good salary isnt worth the bullshit youll have to deal with

eye candy? whoever said that, fuck that. you can get eye candy anywhere, girls are everywhere. youde have to be a complete loser and perve to go to church just to check out wacked out religious chicks. if you happen to like one, and happen to get into a relationship.. youll spend the rest of your life listening to that religious nonsense.. so fuck that.

matej said it best, the days you work PLUS the day you go to church, which actually takes away from your day off which is pretty important to me. why the fuck would you spend that in church? thats like when people tell me theyre rather sit in traffic than live in an expensive part of town.. the cost of living is worth it when you dont have to subject yourself to driving, its like wasting your life for no fucking reason...

find a better job. tell the religious freaks to go sell crazy somewhere else, were all stocked up

98s14inaz · 06-07-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

...and you found a sweet job at a church that pays very well, and you applied, and they offered you an interview, and told you that "regular service attendance" was a requirement of the position, even though it has NOTHING TO DO with what you do... would you go for the interview/take the job?

i ask because i'm agnostic and found a website maintenance position at a church. apparently a pretty big church, because the pay is good. i had a phone interview and they said i could come in for a regular interview, but mentioned that i'd have to GO TO CHURCH to keep my job

You're probably smarter than all of them put together so I say go for it. You'll find a way to make it work for you.

BustedS13 · 06-07-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ryguy

Actually, legally, Missouri is an At Will state. They can fire you if you don't go to church. Hell, they can fire you if they don't like the way your farts smell.

yup. none of that bullshit here, if they don't like you you're gone.

**mrmephistopheles** · 06-07-2009, 02:20 PM

I wouldn't take the job. In the interview, or further hiring process, I'd remind them that they're hiring you for your skills and abilities, not your religious beliefs. Unless they want to pay you for the time you spend at their services, I don't see how it would be beneficial to you or them. An atheist or agnostic is not going to be magically swayed to change his/her beliefs simply by being in a religious environment, so if their ultimate goal is to convert you, it's an exercise in futility. If they're simply seeking a like-minded person to work with them, that's understandable, but it's important for them to remember that despite people having different beliefs, they can still mesh well.

If they choose not to hire you because of your beliefs, it's their loss.

06-05-2009, 05:01 PM	#33
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06-05-2009, 10:07 PM	#35
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06-06-2009, 10:51 AM	#40
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06-07-2009, 08:13 AM	#50
ryguy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Suburbs Age: 32 Posts: 1,544 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Actually, legally, Missouri is an At Will state. They can fire you if you don't go to church. Hell, they can fire you if they don't like the way your farts smell. __________________

06-05-2009, 05:11 PM	#34
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	i wear all black and metallica shirts when i'm dragged to church

06-05-2009, 10:15 PM	#36
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06-06-2009, 12:48 AM	#39
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Do it. When you quit they will all be agnositcs/atheists.

06-06-2009, 11:09 AM	#42
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06-06-2009, 02:40 PM	#44
sb253 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: WA Posts: 286 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nope 23456

06-07-2009, 02:57 AM	#48
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06-07-2009, 03:00 AM	#49
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	"Oh, busteds13, are you religious?" "Oh no, I have a lot of premarital sex. and I support abortion."

06-07-2009, 08:30 AM	#51
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 79 Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	the benefit of making a good salary isnt worth the bullshit youll have to deal with eye candy? whoever said that, fuck that. you can get eye candy anywhere, girls are everywhere. youde have to be a complete loser and perve to go to church just to check out wacked out religious chicks. if you happen to like one, and happen to get into a relationship.. youll spend the rest of your life listening to that religious nonsense.. so fuck that. matej said it best, the days you work PLUS the day you go to church, which actually takes away from your day off which is pretty important to me. why the fuck would you spend that in church? thats like when people tell me theyre rather sit in traffic than live in an expensive part of town.. the cost of living is worth it when you dont have to subject yourself to driving, its like wasting your life for no fucking reason... find a better job. tell the religious freaks to go sell crazy somewhere else, were all stocked up

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