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Old 07-05-2008, 03:32 AM   #31
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Thats what alot of the drivers/companies/teams in Japan are thinking.....Another big issue is that a lot of Japanese drivers are coming the U.S. to drift, but they aren't getting the points they deserve, most likely to make it "fair" for the American drivers. Maybe Formula D is afraid of a swarm of Japanese drivers taking over the series (and possibly upsetting all the domestic companies, i.e. Mopar, Ford, etc)


This is yet another reason why Formula D fails so hard. I hated it when they first started this shit pile of a series years ago and i hate it even more today. Shitty looking cars, shitty ride heights, shitty rules, Mopar...legit drift series?.....

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Old 07-05-2008, 04:19 AM   #32
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and thats why drifting wont become as big as american and european sports :/
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drifting as a competition is fine, rules and guidlines understandable. a grass route hobby has turned into a $$$ making machine. u have mopar, ford racing, sears(as shown below), all wanting a part of it. theres prob going to be some BS with the rule book b/c FD THINKS THAT EVERYONE COMES TO SEE THE BIG NAMES. money drives the industry but it makes it grow. all you see and hear about are the big names anyways. the jap guys that couldnt make it in D1 japan are try'n there luck out here. and of course the already established Japanese guys will proly always have a place in the top 32/16 places.

i took this pic at road atl march of 06 i think

= = = = $$$$$$

P.S it will proly get worse b4 it gets better
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^it will definatly get worse before it gets better. this new "suspension" rule is just so disapointing. In a series thats already plagued with rumors and opinions of Bias and favortism judgeing. A rule thats basically totally up to the Formula D staff to decide is that much more lame.

it must be so disheartening to any team other than the big american company sponsored vehicles. your at the whim of somebody who is gonna use the rule book to shape the series like a reality show producer.

Just hope before it gets better, the "worse" doesnt bury the sport. I dont know to many people at the track that actually go and watch formula D anymore. Hell, I can get media passes and sit with my Nikon on the K rail and be 20 feet from the car, and I still don't go anymore.
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sigh, WE NEED an MSC over here.

D1 AND FD BORE the fuck out of me.



but keep fd and d1 alive also.. so an msc can flourish with coolness.
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formula d is a joke
nascar of drifting..

do i really want to see a scion tc drifting? no

just make the cars look cool so they can make good pictures. thats all i care about
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sigh, WE NEED an MSC over here.

D1 AND FD BORE the fuck out of me.



but keep fd and d1 alive also.. so an msc can flourish with coolness.

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MSC is fucking the best drifting to watch hands down! And its nice to know that they are just enthusiest that go absolutely balls out! And their rides are either mildly modified or just perfect with mods! No home depot and circuit city banners or tire flys or anything gay at all!
I just wish that east coast drift alliance would pull out of formula d and compete in something else because they are the shit and the only reason i go to terrible events.

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NOPI could have been our MSC... but they are NOPI and put their touch on it instead of letting people that drift and love drifting run it.
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Fuck FD.

I've always said that from day 1. Typical American bullshit, taking something cool and commercializing and ruining the fuck out of it.
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I just have a huge problem supporting a racing circuit where you actually get penalized for passing the car in front of you... I mean seriously... Name me any other racing circuit where you get penalized for being faster than the other guy....

At least at D1 you were expected to have a huge chunk of modifications to your car. It was also a little more friendly to independent racers. You could still race and be nobody. Yes it was bias, but consider the style of racing you're doing is all going to be based on judging. There are no quantitative results from drifting that you can write down on a score sheet. Its a showy style. Show by definition is going to incur bias. Hell, when I was competing marching band in high school, our school got marked down because we didn't tape our drum sticks hot pink...

D1 was based on clipping points, tire smoke, entry and exit speed, degree of rotation and control. Out of all that, clipping points and speed are the only things on there that are quantitative, and even then, you have some punk ass volunteer, who sits there picking his ass the whole time, responsible for throwing up a flag if the driver actually touches the flag. Not to mention the guy in charge of those punk ass volunteers (head of the track crew) is horrendously bias towards certain drivers and brings his politics into play at every chance he gets. Couple drivers ended up getting screwed over politics like that this past year. And yes, I was one of those volunteers, I know first hand how shady and underhanded that bastard is.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:01 AM   #42
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I miss old school FD... You guys remeber Like 04 and 05 when it was pretty much S13s,S14s, and AE86's running the series with the occasional Z33 or GTO. Back then the drivers tore it up because they loved to drift. Now they're doing it for the money. The guys who do run in FD because they love to drift are the ones who are always getting shafted by the big names.

I started to hate FD when in 06 i think it was when Taka Aono in his AE86 ran with Samuel hubinette in his viper and they went to 4 one more times before Taka's car over heated hardcore so they let Sam move on. My argument was that a 160hp corolla hung with a 600hp viper that's 20 years newer. After that event my taste for FD has gone down hill.
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lol. formula d.


that pretty much sums up my thoughts.
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when shit gets to the US we try to make it one step better. fucking rules. what is this? Sprint Cup? Nascar?

Drift and let that be the end of it, fuck the rules.

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To me drifting was never about the drifting itself, I could care less who won and who lost.
There could be some super slow broke down FC that blew up halfway down the course and lost, but all I saw was aero touching ground, big wheels tucking, dirt drop and bumper flying off, and I thought it was the most amazing thing ever.
I only enjoy looking at pictures of pretty cars drifting.
To me drifting used to equal amazing looking cars being driven.
Now there are no pretty cars in professional drifting, so I can care less about it. I still don't see the point of building up drift cars as if they are race cars, people throw 50K$ into a car that could do the same thing with 5K$ in it, and they still manage to make it look ugly, because nowadays "real" drift cars are all about "functionality" and "performance."
Too many rules ruin everything.
Drift for fun, drift your rusted Corolla with 15x10's, your beat up S13 with broken aero, as long as you're having fun that's what real drifting is.

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Old 07-05-2008, 05:25 PM   #46
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ive brought it up once, ill bring it up again

The bullshit I watched when rhys millen pitched a hissy fit and demanded he get a rerun because a water cooler spilled over and ran onto the track causing him to "spin"

Watching people down a run completely grip the 1st, 2nd corners to "pull away or catch up" so they could win simply because they stayed on their ass or pulled away from them

people diving into with little or no angle just to pass the driver up front for a guaranteed win

FD is complete garbage, there is nothing representing the sport of drifting anymore in my opinion. the biggest team wioth the biggest written check will flourish and leave the grassroot/privateers nowhere to go. Im not even gonna get started on NOPI.
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Hence why ASB rocks.

Drifting at its most basic foundation.

Having fun with friends while driving your car.

Done and done.

Competition is cool and all, but seems like there's too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
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Hence why ASB rocks.

Drifting at its most basic foundation.

Having fun with friends while driving your car.

Done and done.

Competition is cool and all, but seems like there's too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
I would attend ASB before any level of judged drifting
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By the way what happened to Pawlak's car, the last remaining Formula D car I liked?

How did it go from cream color with awesome wheels and fitment...


...to typical Formula D look, with slightly better than average height and fitment?
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too plain for FD I guess
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its called sponsor money.

you have to be functional for competition if you want those dollars to keep rolling in. JTP's car still isnt bad at all. his car rocks, it just needs o stop blowing up all the time


all this talk about how formula D sucks is retarded. Formula D tries as hard as they can to get away from the D1"scripted" drifting, and nopi's joke of a series

in our teams dealing with Formula D it has all been professional for many months, up until now. just recently they started ignoring our teams request for approval on our current suspension setup. stating that it wasent pre-approved before the season started and therefore needs to go back to our OEM configuration of 2 bolt suspension instead of our current nissan laurel 3 bolt suspension we hold no grudge against formula D. and seeing as it is the only real USA drifting series we will stand behind them even as this issue continues
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Dude Matej JTP's car still looks sick.

Maybe it's the blue.

I like the graphics too.

Still very nice.
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wasn't it green before too?

looked sick when (if) it was green
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It was green before.

Sure the champagn looked the best, but whatever.

Blue is so 2008.
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Chevrolet Corvettes have converted from leaf springs to coilovers. .
which corvettes are running with leaf springs. they havent done that for a really really really long time. how come nobody mentioned the suspention done to the mustangs going from leafs to coilovers?
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the corvette that competes in formula D cam from the factory with leaf springs, it now has coilovers
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wasn't this his car

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