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DeathMetal · 05-13-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by udon!

that would be...

FUCKING SICK.

God damn it...

I've been wanting to see someone stuff a 5.9 Cummins in an S chassis for so long.

Someone dooo eeeeetttt

Fuck, I don't even care if it's a Powerstroke.

Flicktitty · 05-13-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by VROOOM

probably not if you actually put a tire on the car. not a 215 stretched over a 10 inch wheel

haha exactly. it's funny hearing people talk how there gt28rs sr20 240 spins there 275 tires from a roll. yet from 20mph my 6265 2JZ's s13 on a 225 sticky tire HOOKS.

*ManoNegra* · 05-13-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bb4_96

LSX seems to be the new trendy motor. First there was a few now they are all over it seems.. imo. Power wise whats the point? You have so much low down torque you might as well name your LS swapped 240 the sit and spin. Might as well go make friends at the tire shop because you'll be shooting them some nice bank just trying to dd your car. At least with a 4cyl turbo motor you have a little bit of lag to get your car moving before all hell breaks loose.

If i ever here there's no replacement for displacement ever again I'm going to call up all the F1 teams and let them know it's time to pack it in. They've had a good run but the LSX are here.

lol lsx is a great motor.. but most motors are or they wouldn't put them in cars they're going to sell to thousands of people(with few exceptions).

I guess i'm just tired of seeing them in 240's. I'd rather see something new and interesting. One more trick flow manifold in a 240 bay and i'll yak.

new? not new but definitely a lot more common
Luke was doing swaps into FDs years ago

personally I'm torn
I'm a nissan purist and frankly the thought of an American V8 in a
240 is somewhat repulsive
but logically I can't come up with a good argument against
as been mentioned, most of the people doing LS swaps
are people that have done NA and turbo builds and track their cars
sooner or later, cost and common sense takes over
imo people doing swaps because it's 'rare', uncommon or they want to be unique are idiots

SuperiorS14 · 05-13-2010, 09:32 PM

cant beat a 500+whp NA motor........nuff said.

id swap out my 3071 SR in a heartbeat for a LSX swap

Touge Noob S13 · 05-13-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleepiedaze

unfortunatly that is slowly becoming a past dream as everyone trys to be the lowest and most tire tucked they can be. as drifting has left is roots and gone to a "show style" of who has the most horsepower and who has the biggest rims with the biggest and brightest neon lights. most people now adays are all about the "low and slow" or being "JDM" as fuck or what ever that means.

"who has the most horsepower"? This isnt a Supra forum.

Flicktitty · 05-13-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Touge Noob S13

"who has the most horsepower"? This isnt a Supra forum.

it's not all about power, it's about when/where it get's its power from. and how reliable and easy it is to make that power.

frizzle · 05-13-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Teddy

Not inferior. I just judge people by the color of their necks.

In this case, they are red... therefore, I do not like them.

lol....!

BustedS13 · 05-13-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VROOOM

well if we are comparing the S2000 vs an LS motor. consider this

MPG
S2000 --18 city - 25 highway
2010 Camaro SS-- 16 city - 24 highway

the engine we're more likely talking about, however, would be the LS1 from c5 vettes and 4g f bodies, which made 17/26.
either way, funny how comparable their mpg ratings are.

*kingkilburn* · 05-13-2010, 11:21 PM

It makes me wonder how the two cars would do in an all out racing environment. Both cars would have around the same power and likely the same tires but the corvette would most likely have some kind of ballast.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-13-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Csomme

How is having an LS swapped 240 being a pussy? Have you ever drifted a car where you don't have to wait for torque and tach shit out all the damn time? It's a proven setup with a huge reliable powerband that greatly expands with just a few modifications.

A cam and tune on even an LS1 will get you right about 500 to the wheels.

Please shut the fuck up.

Really now? a cam n tune ls1 Is 500whp? Hmm check this video out Idk u tell me. This Ls1 coupe had tune,headers,cam,Intake n It was auto.

240 had gt28,tune,STOCK cams,Nitrous, forged pistons n head gaskets. same car. v8 4 cyl. sr lost cause miss shift. they did It again. n the ls1 car lost pretty bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXhiskCDCmc

I'll post my video when It gets put online

BustedS13 · 05-13-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kingkilburn

It makes me wonder how the two cars would do in an all out racing environment. Both cars would have around the same power and likely the same tires but the corvette would most likely have some kind of ballast.

are we talking an LS swapped S chassis vs. the car the LS engine came out of?
the 'vette would weigh in around 3200 pounds, so there's your answer right there. although i'd be curious how a gutted, stock C5 would compare to a heavily modified 240sx.

shiftdrift · 05-13-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

Really now? a cam n tune ls1 Is 500whp? Hmm check this video out Idk u tell me. This Ls1 coupe had tune,headers,cam,Intake n It was auto.

240 had gt28,tune,STOCK cams,Nitrous, forged pistons n head gaskets. same car. v8 4 cyl. sr lost cause miss shift. they did It again. n the ls1 car lost pretty bad.

YouTube - Nismo Knights LS2 240SX vs Team Undergrounds Turbo/Nos 240SX

I'll post my video when It gets put online

trust me man, i made him realize he was wrong, read page 2 or something. he said he mis-read and meant 400 just like i said.

BustedS13 · 05-13-2010, 11:33 PM

I was going to buy a 350z this fall, but if i bought an s13 shell and swapped in an LS1, would you all promise to be super pissed off about it? like really venomous ignorant "halfbreed" comments in every thread?
this is important to me, guys.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-13-2010, 11:35 PM

Oh n heres a video of a Ls1 swapped Rx7- vs a normal v8 cobra. Wouldn't u think the light ass rx7 witha new manly v8 would womp on the heavy ass terminator? Lol waste of moneys!

YouTube - LS1 RX7 FC V8 vs 500whp Cobra street race drag

Or he could have done It right n be like this guy!

YouTube - 407 whp rx-7 vs. 550+ whp 03 cobra rematch 2 of 2

There Is countless videos of v8 swapped rx7 n 240 getting womped on by cars It should SMASH with Its new powerplant so man like and tuff!

If u seriously need a v8 to "drift" then you suck. Anyone can drift with a v8 swapped 240 or rx7. Push gas turn wheel n have fun. ITs a EASY way out no matter how you look at It. You see those single cam guys n corolla guys clutch kicking the whole damn time. Even some dual cams. Thats fun LOL. I like doing that. V8's ARE THE EASY WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING! Puss n boots!

ranger240 · 05-13-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

blah blah blah blah.. whiney whiney whiney

240 had gt28,tune,STOCK cams,Nitrous, forged pistons n head gaskets. same car. v8 4 cyl. sr lost cause miss shift. they did It again. n the ls1 car lost pretty bad.

YouTube - Nismo Knights LS2 240SX vs Team Undergrounds Turbo/Nos 240SX

I'll post my video when It gets put online

missed shift? so what you're saying is...

the purpose of this thread was to project blame on another cars engine in compensation for the fact that you suck at driving

edit: thats not you driving... but ok... talk about junk power adders.... nitrous.. yeah ok...

"hey zilvia... naturally aspirated high hp cars are lame, but overbuilt high strung turbo nitrous 4 cylinders... those is cool"

GSXRJJordan · 05-13-2010, 11:49 PM

Haha, I love to have this argument in person, and then pop the hood of my FD, and take them for a ride.

People go from "I hate V8 swaps, they're so gay", to "if I had money, I'd do this".

If you hate LS-series V8's you've either never ridden in one, can't afford one, or aren't involved in any form of competitive road racing. LS-series motors aren't so prevalent because they look good, or sound cool ~ they're around because they win. *cough* look at GT1 C5R and C6R Corvettes in Le Mans *cough* Drag racing? No 4cylinders there *cough* Formula 1? V8's! *cough* Drifting? Yup, V8's

If anyone on this continent cared about rally racing, there'd be V8's winning there too.

I've had SR20's since 2005, built a RB25 last year, and swapped chassis and motors to the LS1 FD this year. I miss the RB's sound and fast rev's, but the Ls-series motors can't be beat when your priority is winning, not looking good to the other JDM kids.

franklin93zx · 05-13-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Touge Noob S13

"who has the most horsepower"? This isnt a Supra forum.

L O L

msglngth

*kingkilburn* · 05-13-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

are we talking an LS swapped S chassis vs. the car the LS engine came out of?
the 'vette would weigh in around 3200 pounds, so there's your answer right there. although i'd be curious how a gutted, stock C5 would compare to a heavily modified 240sx.

No. S2000 and Corvette.

Lets say they are both in a time attack event and both competing in unlimited rwd.

shiftdrift · 05-14-2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

I was going to buy a 350z this fall, but if i bought an s13 shell and swapped in an LS1, would you all promise to be super pissed off about it? like really venomous ignorant "halfbreed" comments in every thread?
this is important to me, guys.

if you pay me 20 bucks i will....

ranger240 · 05-14-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

Oh n heres a video of a Ls1 swapped Rx7- vs a normal v8 cobra. Wouldn't u think the light ass rx7 witha new manly v8 would womp on the heavy ass terminator? Lol waste of moneys!

YouTube - LS1 RX7 FC V8 vs 500whp Cobra street race drag

Or he could have done It right n be like this guy!

YouTube - 407 whp rx-7 vs. 550+ whp 03 cobra rematch 2 of 2

There Is countless videos of v8 swapped rx7 n 240 getting womped on by cars It should SMASH with Its new powerplant so man like and tuff!

dude you're an IDIOT... stop trying

you're judging everything off HP alone... thats like saying you have a billion dollars which is alot of money, but not considering what market prices are

a 3200lb 550 hp mustang cobra has a power/weight ratio of 5.8 lbs per hp.. the one in that video is "550+" thats really good

a fd rx7 with a 400 hp engine is 2300lbs.. so that equals a power to weight ratio of 5.75 pounds per horsepower

not considering other variables i'd say that the above 2nd grade math really takes a crap on your example of how bad ls1 swaps are

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Teddy · 05-14-2010, 12:11 AM

This thread is pointless.

It's obviously clear how gay V8s are.

lewisfk · 05-14-2010, 12:20 AM

i like nissan and i enjoy there products, so swapping a none nissan engine in a nissan car is a crime to me! i enjoy taking my little 2.0 turbo engine and whopping ass in my local area! the look on the faces of those rednecks is priceless! i also enjoy drag racing and learning from my cousin who is a mopar guru! to each its own, but if u get handled by a 4 cylinder and u have a v8 please tuck your nuts into your lower abd and call them ovaries!

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-14-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ranger240

dude you're an IDIOT... stop trying

you're judging everything off HP alone... thats like saying you have a billion dollars which is alot of money, but not considering what market prices are

a 3200lb 550 hp mustang cobra has a power/weight ratio of 5.8 lbs per hp.. the one in that video is "550+" thats really good

a fd rx7 with a 400 hp engine is 2300lbs.. so that equals a power to weight ratio of 5.75 pounds per horsepower

not considering other variables i'd say that the above 2nd grade math really takes a crap on your example of how bad ls1 swaps are

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I think u need some reading comp. I wasn't comparing a 400 hp rx7 to a 550 hp cobra. I was showing a ls swapped fc racing a 500whp cobra and couldn't beat It. Then showed you a fd with Its natural engine 1.3 rotary racing a 550whp cobra and womped on It. n curb weight on a fd Isn't 2300 pounds. More like 2600 to 2800. Somewhere around there. n a cobra doesn't weight as much as a corvette. cobras weight like 3500 lbs. Since u wanna talk about that now. Thats not what I was comparing at all btw

WISH ONE · 05-14-2010, 12:29 AM

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You see those single cam guys n corolla guys clutch kicking the whole damn time. Even some dual cams. Thats fun LOL. I like doing that. V8's ARE THE EASY WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING! Puss n boots!

dont take offense to this, Im not saying your broke or have no driving experience but it sounds like something either someone who cant afford power would say or someone who hasnt driven with power would say... Most people dont like kicking the clutch a million times...

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

ITs a EASY way out no matter how you look at It.

Isnt this the point? look at most racecars, they are put together in a way that will make the drivers life easier so that he can win... not make it harder so he can lose.

*kingkilburn* · 05-14-2010, 12:31 AM

That still proves nothing except that on that day that car won.

How does that prove the inferiority of the LS?

Give us some data. Show me a structural or design flaw. Suggest an alternative with the same kind of power band.

Give me something. All we've had is bs opinions and that doesn't mean shit.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-14-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WISH ONE

dont take offense to this, Im not saying your broke or have no driving experience but it sounds like something either someone who cant afford power would say or someone who hasnt driven with power would say... Most people dont like kicking the clutch a million times...

I'm speaking of watching people struggle at tracks n still do It. I've had plenty of power dude trust me. PLENTY. N money. Plenty of that too. I was comparing people who actually try n get better by learning what n what not to do. rather then. Hey lets swap a v8 n not learn a damn thing!

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Originally Posted by kingkilburn

That still proves nothing except that on that day that car won.

How does that prove the inferiority of the LS?

Give us some data. Show me a structural or design flaw. Suggest an alternative with the same kind of power band.

Give me something. All we've had is bs opinions and that doesn't mean shit.

Never said It was Inferior. I said Its a easy way out. N some actually had the nerve to tell me that he only has bolt ons In his ls2 swapped 240.

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Originally Posted by ranger240

missed shift? so what you're saying is...

the purpose of this thread was to project blame on another cars engine in compensation for the fact that you suck at driving

edit: thats not you driving... but ok... talk about junk power adders.... nitrous.. yeah ok...

"hey zilvia... naturally aspirated high hp cars are lame, but overbuilt high strung turbo nitrous 4 cylinders... those is cool"

No the puspose of this thread Is that a guy with v8 swapped 240 told me that I beat him because he only has tune.headers,intake n cam. Rightttt . Thats the biggest pussy comment I've ever heard. I never said Ls motors suck. If I did I didn't mean the engine It self. I meant the 240s n fc/fd whatever have them,. Its easy way out.

ranger240 · 05-14-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

I think u need some reading comp. I wasn't comparing a 400 hp rx7 to a 550 hp cobra. I was showing a ls swapped fc racing a 500whp cobra and couldn't beat It. Then showed you a fd with Its natural engine 1.3 rotary racing a 550whp cobra and womped on It. n curb weight on a fd Isn't 2300 pounds. More like 2600 to 2800. Somewhere around there. n a cobra doesn't weight as much as a corvette. cobras weight like 3500 lbs. Since u wanna talk about that now. Thats not what I was comparing at all btw

you're wrong about LS engines but right about reading comp... this is the last time i try to prosecute an issue after a few hours at the best bar in town

edit: and on top of that skimming threads without my reading glasses

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-14-2010, 12:36 AM

Its the fact that he really stood there and looked me dead In my eyes and told me that he only has bolt ons tun n cam. with a serious look on his face. Good thing he left his balls at home where he swapped the ls at and was carrying his vagina with him or I woulda slapped him

Ls engines are great engines. In a corvette,gto,camaro w.e they come In. The Engine It self Is great and I love how they can rev out for being a v8. but I'm not a fan of ls swapped Imports nor will I ever be. Esp when they can look at you and say they only have so n so on their car n u have a turbo n blah.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-14-2010, 12:39 AM

I just got bit a by fuckin spider.

*kingkilburn* · 05-14-2010, 12:40 AM

Do you think that all the pros in FD just jumped into those 600 hp monsters without already knowing how to drive? How about the aussies with those drifting 1000hp skylines?

It sounds to me that you have a personal bias and prejudice akin to racism.

05-13-2010, 11:21 PM	#129
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It makes me wonder how the two cars would do in an all out racing environment. Both cars would have around the same power and likely the same tires but the corvette would most likely have some kind of ballast. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

05-13-2010, 11:33 PM	#133
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was going to buy a 350z this fall, but if i bought an s13 shell and swapped in an LS1, would you all promise to be super pissed off about it? like really venomous ignorant "halfbreed" comments in every thread? this is important to me, guys. __________________

05-13-2010, 11:35 PM	#134
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Oh n heres a video of a Ls1 swapped Rx7- vs a normal v8 cobra. Wouldn't u think the light ass rx7 witha new manly v8 would womp on the heavy ass terminator? Lol waste of moneys! YouTube - LS1 RX7 FC V8 vs 500whp Cobra street race drag Or he could have done It right n be like this guy! YouTube - 407 whp rx-7 vs. 550+ whp 03 cobra rematch 2 of 2 There Is countless videos of v8 swapped rx7 n 240 getting womped on by cars It should SMASH with Its new powerplant so man like and tuff! If u seriously need a v8 to "drift" then you suck. Anyone can drift with a v8 swapped 240 or rx7. Push gas turn wheel n have fun. ITs a EASY way out no matter how you look at It. You see those single cam guys n corolla guys clutch kicking the whole damn time. Even some dual cams. Thats fun LOL. I like doing that. V8's ARE THE EASY WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING! Puss n boots! __________________ Obliterate

05-13-2010, 11:49 PM	#136
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Haha, I love to have this argument in person, and then pop the hood of my FD, and take them for a ride. People go from "I hate V8 swaps, they're so gay", to "if I had money, I'd do this". If you hate LS-series V8's you've either never ridden in one, can't afford one, or aren't involved in any form of competitive road racing. LS-series motors aren't so prevalent because they look good, or sound cool ~ they're around because they win. *cough* look at GT1 C5R and C6R Corvettes in Le Mans *cough* Drag racing? No 4cylinders there *cough* Formula 1? V8's! *cough* Drifting? Yup, V8's If anyone on this continent cared about rally racing, there'd be V8's winning there too. I've had SR20's since 2005, built a RB25 last year, and swapped chassis and motors to the LS1 FD this year. I miss the RB's sound and fast rev's, but the Ls-series motors can't be beat when your priority is winning, not looking good to the other JDM kids. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

05-14-2010, 12:11 AM	#141
Teddy Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: AutoFactory REALIZE Posts: 5,213 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	This thread is pointless. It's obviously clear how gay V8s are. __________________ www.realize-jp.net

05-13-2010, 09:32 PM	#124
SuperiorS14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: S.G.V. Age: 36 Posts: 1,138 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	cant beat a 500+whp NA motor........nuff said. id swap out my 3071 SR in a heartbeat for a LSX swap

05-14-2010, 12:20 AM	#142
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	i like nissan and i enjoy there products, so swapping a none nissan engine in a nissan car is a crime to me! i enjoy taking my little 2.0 turbo engine and whopping ass in my local area! the look on the faces of those rednecks is priceless! i also enjoy drag racing and learning from my cousin who is a mopar guru! to each its own, but if u get handled by a 4 cylinder and u have a v8 please tuck your nuts into your lower abd and call them ovaries!

05-14-2010, 12:31 AM	#145
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That still proves nothing except that on that day that car won. How does that prove the inferiority of the LS? Give us some data. Show me a structural or design flaw. Suggest an alternative with the same kind of power band. Give me something. All we've had is bs opinions and that doesn't mean shit. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

05-14-2010, 12:36 AM	#148
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Its the fact that he really stood there and looked me dead In my eyes and told me that he only has bolt ons tun n cam. with a serious look on his face. Good thing he left his balls at home where he swapped the ls at and was carrying his vagina with him or I woulda slapped him Ls engines are great engines. In a corvette,gto,camaro w.e they come In. The Engine It self Is great and I love how they can rev out for being a v8. but I'm not a fan of ls swapped Imports nor will I ever be. Esp when they can look at you and say they only have so n so on their car n u have a turbo n blah. __________________ Obliterate

05-14-2010, 12:39 AM	#149
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I just got bit a by fuckin spider. __________________ Obliterate

05-14-2010, 12:40 AM	#150
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,041 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do you think that all the pros in FD just jumped into those 600 hp monsters without already knowing how to drive? How about the aussies with those drifting 1000hp skylines? It sounds to me that you have a personal bias and prejudice akin to racism. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

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