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raz0rbladez909 · 06-26-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

ok, so a bunch of people got bored, and did something that offends you... what do we do about it?

I'm so bored I feel like fucking someone in the ass

Origin · 06-26-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

I'm so bored I feel like fucking someone in the ass

I think you should act more like a 25 year old.

I know they have been doing that for years. There are suspects that even Spartans were gay with their mentors. But it's a theory. They certainly did not go around parading it.

Origin · 06-26-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

ok, so a bunch of people got bored, and did something that offends you... what do we do about it?

I guess we can't these days. So much whining and crying from all directions you can do whatever you want. Everybody is entitled to something. Back to entitlement.

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

you're saying gay rights activism is a new thing, or has been ramped up in recent years?

It has most definitely ramped up in recent years. It definitely wasn't this bad in the 90's, was it?

raz0rbladez909 · 06-26-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

I think you should act more like a 25 year old.

I know they have been doing that for years. There are suspects that even Spartans were gay with their mentors. But it's a theory. They certainly did not go around parading it.

It was making a joke of your train of thought. Maybe if you learned to take that stick out of your ass you wouldn't be such a pent up bigot.

I honestly think you should take your own advice of "act (insert whatever age you are)" and stop trying to push your views onto others. Once you realize that your viewpoint isn't the only one that exists out there and that people should be allowed to do as they please without being oppressed as long as it doesn't hurt others; Maybe then you will actually grow up.

People like you are what is wrong with organized religion, sure the message of the bible, quran, whatever entity you choose is usually a good one. Then you have people like yourself who take it upon themselves to educate the world on how great their religion is. Then you pick and choose which parts to follow and which parts to hate others for not following.

Personally I think people like yourself are a plague to society, and only find joy in criticizing others to satisfy your own dissatisfaction with yourself. You're no different then the westboro baptist church as far as I'm concerned.

Simple question here, are you married? If you are/are not, did you have sex before marriage? I'm quite sure you'll prove my point in answering this one.

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Originally Posted by Origin

I guess we can't these days. So much whining and crying from all directions you can do whatever you want. Everybody is entitled to something. Back to entitlement.
It has most definitely ramped up in recent years. It definitely wasn't this bad in the 90's, was it?

I guess you missed the entire 80's then, it was practically required to be gay to be even remotely popular as far as music is concerned(Joke in case you didn't get that one)

Do you like the band Queen or any of their songs? The Pet Shop Boys? The Cure? The Smiths? Hell there are plenty others, and I'm sure you like plenty of songs by gay artists too. Would you prefer you didn't hear their "gay music"?

Origin · 06-26-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

It was making a joke of your train of thought. Maybe if you learned to take that stick out of your ass you wouldn't be such a pent up bigot.

This wasn't a thread about my views on being gay. This whole thing was a demonstration on what everyone in the thread wants everyone else to believe. A lot more of you than there is me.

I honestly think you should take your own advice of "act (insert whatever age you are)" and stop trying to push your views onto others. Once you realize that your viewpoint isn't the only one that exists out there and that people should be allowed to do as they please without being oppressed as long as it doesn't hurt others.

Right now there is about 6% of people in the U.S. that is gay. That's roughly 19,800,000. In the scheme of things, that isn't a lot. You're saying we should stop what we are doing and change everything for 6%? I had something for this, but I lost my flawed, stupid, and immoral train of fanatical thought.

People like you are what is wrong with organized religion, sure the message of the Bible, Qur'an (fixed), whatever entity you choose is usually a good one. Then you have people like yourself who take it upon themselves to educate the world on how great their religion is. Then you pick and choose which parts to follow and which parts to hate others for not following.

Five or so people isn't exactly the world, just so you know. I don't remember the gloating greatness of God, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, the Holy Spirit or any of them. Where are you getting your facts? I said being gay was wrong, I don't remember bringing religion into this. Unless you are considering the other thread. What parts am I following and not following and subsequently hating others for?

Personally I think people like yourself are a plague to society, and only find joy in criticizing others to satisfy your own dissatisfaction with yourself. You're no different then the westboro baptist church as far as I'm concerned.

You're a psychologist now. 25, that's fast PhD. I don't remember meeting you and revealing what the other aspects of my life are, to show you what person I am. I rarely criticize others, I was stating facts here. If you can't understand that, I feel sorry for your under-developed intelligence.

Simple question here, are you married? If you are/are not, did you have sex before marriage? I'm quite sure you'll prove my point in answering this one.

What do you mean? Did you're professors tell you that one side of the coin or the other was superior? No I'm not married. I don't follow California's method of life, get a girlfriend, get aids, get her pregnant, marry her, claim that I love her and she is the love of my life for the rest of my life. Hahaha. If I wasn't getting sex, it most certainly would be my choice, and I would not be angry at the world for it. If I was, I would have the same view points and understanding of the subject, and would be angry at the world for for what's it becoming anyway.

I guess you missed the entire 80's then, it was practically required to be gay to be even remotely popular lol

You were born in 1987. You have no idea what the 80s were like.

iamthewinner · 06-26-2012, 08:31 PM

Answer me this
Do u or do u not off yourself watching girl on girl action?

/thread

BustedS13 · 06-26-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

It has most definitely ramped up in recent years. It definitely wasn't this bad in the 90's, was it?

"this bad" isn't how i'd put it, but i thought "the gays" had plenty of spotlight in the 90s, even the 80s, although for the 80s i didn't live it, i just listen to the music and watch a little nick at nite. some light reading:
List of 1980s American television episodes with LGBT themes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of American television episodes with LGBT themes, 1990

at any rate.. you didn't really see too many black characters on television before the civil rights movement, know what i mean?

**Phlip** · 06-26-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

You were born in 1987. You have no idea what the 80s were like.

I have been WAITING for you to play this card...

And now you will cook up some hair brained excuse about how you weren't the one talking about the 80s.

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

at any rate.. you didn't really see too many black characters on television before the civil rights movement, know what i mean?

Sure is a good thing all those black people decided it was high time to stop being black so they could get free, huh? Since we know that anyone who was ever oppressed actively CHOSE to be oppressed and all.

daftphunk · 06-26-2012, 08:50 PM

Have you ever tried to open your mind? You are one small person on this planet. A shitty person to say the least.

theicecreamdan · 06-26-2012, 09:04 PM

I think I might have figured out what you need, where are you from?

BustedS13 · 06-26-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

Sure is a good thing all those black people decided it was high time to stop being black so they could get free, huh? Since we know that anyone who was ever oppressed actively CHOSE to be oppressed and all.

he's just going to come back and say the two are completely different, because from his outside perspective, being gay is a choice. if all those queers just prayed really hard, poof! they'd stop being poofs and would be able to get it up and plow some vag, pleasing the Lord and saving themselves from an eternity in the lake of fire.
maybe homosexuals should just hold out for an executive policy change, like the mormons did for black people back in 1978.

raz0rbladez909 · 06-26-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

You were born in 1987. You have no idea what the 80s were like.
Hahahahaa it was actually 86, and it's really not hard to see that there were plenty of flamboyantly gay people in the 80's. I honestly don't see how my age comes into play either, research is quite easy to do and I happen to really like 80's music. Did you forget that the past is recorded? It's not like you can't go back and learn something from generations ago. With your mindset no history buff can talk about the past because they weren't there right? I also find it funny that you worked your way around the question of your virginity, basically you've proven that you pick and choose what part of your religion you want to follow.

This wasn't a thread about my views on being gay. This whole thing was a demonstration on what everyone in the thread wants everyone else to believe. A lot more of you than there is me.
The whole thread started from you posting a video, and expecting us to read into it and find some random message of hate like you would since you're a bigot. Oh no the gays are taking over :rollseyes:

Right now there is about 6% of people in the U.S. that is gay. That's roughly 19,800,000. In the scheme of things, that isn't a lot. You're saying we should stop what we are doing and change everything for 6%? I had something for this, but I lost my flawed, stupid, and immoral train of fanatical thought.
Why does it even matter how many gay people there are in the U.S.? What are you even talking about changing? Are you thinking there's going to be some gay takeover??

Five or so people isn't exactly the world, just so you know. I don't remember the gloating greatness of God, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, the Holy Spirit or any of them. Where are you getting your facts? I said being gay was wrong, I don't remember bringing religion into this. Unless you are considering the other thread. What parts am I following and not following and subsequently hating others for?
Five or so people? There is plenty of people, like yourself, who feel they are above others because of their specific religion. I never said the Bible or other scriptures taught that, I said people like yourself take whatever details that you wish to pick and choose and enforce it upon others. You are more concerned with what others do in their lives instead of just leaving people alone.

You're a psychologist now. 25, that's fast PhD. I don't remember meeting you and revealing what the other aspects of my life are, to show you what person I am. I rarely criticize others, I was stating facts here. If you can't understand that, I feel sorry for your under-developed intelligence.
It doesn't take a psychologist to realize when someone has a fucked up mindset, and the persona you display on here is obvious that you are a miserable little person. What facts are you stating? Being gay is wrong because of your book? Or was it anatomy like you said? "Being gay is the result of a bored species"? Facts huh, and don't worry about my "under-developed" intelligence, you have plenty of learning to do on your own Hitler.

What do you mean? Did your(fixed since you're such a stickler) professors tell you that one side of the coin or the other was superior? No I'm not married. I don't follow California's method of life, get a girlfriend, get aids, get her pregnant, marry her, claim that I love her and she is the love of my life for the rest of my life. Hahaha. If I wasn't getting sex, it most certainly would be my choice, and I would not be angry at the world for it. If I was, I would have the same view points and understanding of the subject, and would be angry at the world for for what's it becoming anyway.

I never said anyone was superior to anyone, in fact I quite remember agreeing with everyone in here saying that everyone should be treated equally and not oppressed by some asshole like yourself. You can go ahead and insult California all you want, I don't hold any allegiance to this state, my point in asking the question was that your book states that being gay is wrong right? and you're using your book to justify that right? Well it would be highly hypocritical for you to have sex before marriage and then try to bash someone for being gay right? You're already angry at the world which is obvious, it doesn't take a psych to see that.

Msssssggglngth

theicecreamdan · 06-26-2012, 09:22 PM

You were born in '88, you didn't live through the bible.

CleanAndLegit · 06-26-2012, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by daftphunk

Have you ever tried to open your mind? You are one small person on this planet. A shitty person to say the least.

this.

/thread

BustedS13 · 06-26-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by iamthewinner

Answer me this
Do u or do u not off yourself watching girl on girl action?

/thread

for what it's worth, i'm pro LGBT, but don't enjoy lez porn. i also don't like it when girls (or dudes, or girls 'n' dudes) make out in bars, yuck.

ineedone · 06-27-2012, 06:08 AM

OP, it is ok that you are confused. I understand that this must be a very tough time. You probably have made fun of "fa*s" and you probably have friends that call people "fa**ots" for doing things they think are "gay." But you need to know, it does get better. Being gay is not a choice, you are born that way because god wanted you to be that way (if you believe in god, go with it). Hating yourself for who you are, then turning that hate onto others will only make you more miserable in life. Stop fighting it, embrace it. Be fabulous. - Sorry the fiance' saw this and was moved and wanted to help.

Origin · 06-27-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

for what it's worth, i'm pro LGBT, but don't enjoy lez porn. i also don't like it when girls (or dudes, or girls 'n' dudes) make out in bars, yuck.

The point I've been trying to make this entire time. Thank you. Someone actually took a second to think. Apart from the adult boys in this thread making childish (fits the age) insults on they can't come to terms when saying that it is wrong, and they do think that, let me say this, an honest man is always a child.

And Phlip, I wasn't born in 88 you idiot. Why would I place my real age on this forum?

Origin · 06-27-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by daftphunk

Have you ever tried to open your mind? You are one small person on this planet.

I removed the indecency, seeing as how you are left to insults because I offended your orientation.

Anyway, open my mind to what? Seeing men kiss each other everywhere in public places? Hugging? Holding hands? Being everything that a man isn't? Like it or not, like me or not, you will one day come to realize that being gay is a degradation of the male sex.

Let me give an idea how stupid the thought process of being gay is. Have you ever seen a lesbian couple? One female looking girl, and one butch. They are imitating a man, the way they get their physical pleasure, mimics a man. But yet, a man is repulsive. Men, while not really feasible to mimic a woman, damn try to. So they still want the opposite sex, but would rather have those features that are naturally charged, on the same sex. Does that make sense to you?

Origin · 06-27-2012, 11:03 AM

Now, I'm trying to avoid being in this particular position that I will be in momentarily, but it's inevitable with this crowd mostly from California which tells me all I really need to know.

I NEVER said, "Gay's don't deserve rights" (morons), I was at first arguing the indecency of those people in the White House and under Obama's presidency. But of course, this fool:

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Originally Posted by BustedS13

i think it says that gay people and liberals are devilpeople? and obama is the antichrist. i think that's what he wants us to get out of it.

had to turn it into something it isn't. After this was posted, I was forced (well not really, coerced) into describing my views on the subject. I said it is wrong, isn't a choice (to the jack in the box that said God made people that way, which, if in a more intelligent crowd, would be seen as an idiot who knows nothing on the subject), and shouldn't be accepted because a few humans, "Just want to be happy". While I can guarantee, most all people (especially men - not - adult boys) that say being gay is ok, DON'T want to see the affection in public and will cringe at the sight.

**Phlip** · 06-27-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Origin

And Phlip, I wasn't born in 88 you idiot. Why would I place my real age on this forum?

So now you're a liar, as well as a bigot and an idiot who has next to zero grasp on what it means to properly capitalize and punctuate his sentences. I figure what the hell reason IS there to lie about your age, unless you're so cripplingly old that you'd be embarrassed to be on a forum that generally revolves around a car like this one does. In that case, you are even more of an idiot for your inability to sustain your argument against simple rebuttal.
So either way, you're both an idiot and a liar.
and quite probably a bigot.

Furthermore, the title of this thread is "This should say it all," yet no one here seems to think whatever was said was as succinctly said as you do. With that in mind, it has been asked several times just what WAS said - though no one argues that what happened was in poor taste - and you have yet to respond.

And now you may attempt to sway my belief that you ARE only 24 yourself by saying something like "I thought this was the internet and not an English class," which will surely put me in my place.

theicecreamdan · 06-27-2012, 12:09 PM

I think you posted in the wrong section. You were looking for this

montgomery rants & raves classifieds " " - craigslist

pick whatever city works for you.

ineedone · 06-27-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

I think you posted in the wrong section. You were looking for this

montgomery rants & raves classifieds " " - craigslist

pick whatever city works for you.

Missed connections MFM

drift freaq · 06-27-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

Now, I'm trying to avoid being in this particular position that I will be in momentarily, but it's inevitable with this crowd mostly from California which tells me all I really need to know.

I NEVER said, "Gay's don't deserve rights" (morons), I was at first arguing the indecency of those people in the White House and under Obama's presidency. But of course, this fool:

had to turn it into something it isn't. After this was posted, I was forced (well not really, coerced) into describing my views on the subject. I said it is wrong, isn't a choice (to the jack in the box that said God made people that way, which, if in a more intelligent crowd, would be seen as an idiot who knows nothing on the subject), and shouldn't be accepted because a few humans, "Just want to be happy". While I can guarantee, most all people (especially men - not - adult boys) that say being gay is ok, DON'T want to see the affection in public and will cringe at the sight.

LOL you had to try and play the "if they are from California they have an opinion that is wrong" card. Dude you are so ignorant of the world around you its crazy. There are people all over the U.S. with the same opinions voiced in this thread. In fact every major city has a gay community of sorts.

No one turned any of this into something it might not have been except you.

You took an incident and read into it your own personal feelings and opinions.
You then stated them in a way that called question.

The minute your statement was called into question you spoke up and now you don't want to own the fact. It takes two to create a discussion. You clearly opened the door.

I love how people like you sit there all smug in your own beliefs not being able to accept people don't choose their color, feelings, race and whatnot.
Sexuality is not something people just up and decide on.

Homosexuality may not have been the intentions of our physical body design on biological basis ( God or nature) . Though it is evident in plant life , insects, animals etc.. Things do not always go as they were intended.
That is what makes the world and the universe so astoundingly amazing.

In that sense telling someone that was born feeling a certain way all their life that they made a decision to be gay is just ignorant. Having known several gay people in my life I can honestly tell you had they had a choice they would not have chosen being gay.

Oh and stop this crap about if they came to God they would be able to change. I know Gay Christian man.

Oh and don't start the God will not accept gays crap either. God accepts all his creations at least that is what I was taught. You know Jesus did die for us.

Oh and ya I am far from gay but I accept them as people with rights. Do I feel they get a little to militant sometimes? Ya but so don't hell bent Christian right wingers who I feel are just as fucked up in different way.( are you one of them?)

Oh and no I am not far left liberal either so you might as well not even try to pigeon hole me.

**Phlip** · 06-27-2012, 01:34 PM

That awkward moment where you start a discussion that turns into a disagreement, then an argument and NO ONE takes your side and you come off looking like a bigoted ass and everyone just takes turns twisting the knife.
I love it

Origin · 06-27-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

you're both an idiot and a liar.

That's all you had to say as is the end of your thought process. No need to carry it out sir, that's all you said.

I suppose using momentum to call me an "idiot", which is what that an entire post was. Now you make fun of me of not doing this: '88. Sorry, my bad. I am a liar because that is the last thing to make fun of me for. All you have been doing is making fun. You have no argument because my argument is correct. I was sorry to think that the idiots on zilvia could think for themselves. I suppose thinking about what highlighter color wheel they should buy next is more important than anything. I agree, it was in poor taste. Sound good?

I will put you in your place by swaying the argument towards your age. You are 32 and your entire place in this thread is that I am, "...idiot and a liar." Bigot is the smartest word you've used. You would think after 3 decades you would have advanced yourself a little more. But go ahead, jump on the bandwagon. You don't want to look bad on the internet. I love my position.

Origin · 06-27-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

LOL you had to try and play the "if they are from California they have an opinion that is wrong" card. Dude you are so ignorant of the world around you its crazy. There are people all over the U.S. with the same opinions voiced in this thread. In fact every major city has a gay community of sorts.

Stop reading there. Seems like the cavalry is coming out to loud noises. 16000 posts eh?

Sorry you got offended you're from California. California is... a dingle berry. The most liberal-communist state in the U.S. (I use communist very lightly, just to get the point across). If you sir were out of your ass and in another part of the country, you would see the same thing I am seeing. There are many who believe the same I do about California. It's the source of degeneration of culture. Hollywood (where you claim to live), gangs, emissions bullshit, it never ends. Including the stance on homosexuality. It all sources from there.

Origin · 06-27-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

That awkward moment where you start a discussion that turns into a disagreement, then an argument and NO ONE takes your side and you come off looking like a bigoted ass and everyone just takes turns twisting the knife.
I love it

Keep throwing those insults you can't prove my stance wrong. I don't care about your views on much of anything. You have nothing to bring to the thread but, "bigot, ass, idiot, liar".

theicecreamdan · 06-27-2012, 01:56 PM

stating that you have a belief is not an argument.

ineedone · 06-27-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

Stop reading there. Seems like the cavalry is coming out to loud noises. 16000 posts eh?

Sorry you got offended you're from California. California is... a dingle berry. The most liberal-communist state in the U.S. (I use communist very lightly, just to get the point across). If you sir were out of your ass and in another part of the country, you would see the same thing I am seeing. There are many who believe the same I do about California. It's the source of degeneration of culture. Hollywood (where you claim to live), gangs, emissions bullshit, it never ends. Including the stance on homosexuality. It all sources from there.

Define "liberal-communist" state PLEASE! (sits back and waits... because this shit is going to be good).

drift freaq · 06-27-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

Stop reading there. Seems like the cavalry is coming out to loud noises. 16000 posts eh?

Sorry you got offended you're from California. California is... a dingle berry. The most liberal-communist state in the U.S. (I use communist very lightly, just to get the point across). If you sir were out of your ass and in another part of the country, you would see the same thing I am seeing. There are many who believe the same I do about California. It's the source of degeneration of culture. Hollywood (where you claim to live), gangs, emissions bullshit, it never ends. Including the stance on homosexuality. It all sources from there.

Offended? No, amused by your biased ignorance for which you know nothing of? Oh yes.

keep up with those delusional beliefs and judgements without actually knowing the truth.

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06-26-2012, 08:31 PM	#66
iamthewinner BANNED Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: fl Posts: 162 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Answer me this Do u or do u not off yourself watching girl on girl action? /thread

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daftphunk Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 767 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Have you ever tried to open your mind? You are one small person on this planet. A shitty person to say the least.

06-27-2012, 06:08 AM	#76
ineedone Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: MD Age: 35 Posts: 238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	OP, it is ok that you are confused. I understand that this must be a very tough time. You probably have made fun of "fas" and you probably have friends that call people "fa*ots" for doing things they think are "gay." But you need to know, it does get better. Being gay is not a choice, you are born that way because god wanted you to be that way (if you believe in god, go with it). Hating yourself for who you are, then turning that hate onto others will only make you more miserable in life. Stop fighting it, embrace it. Be fabulous. - Sorry the fiance' saw this and was moved and wanted to help.