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ghoti · 06-24-2012, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.Adams

Here is the crash video from Chelsea DeNofa's car you can clearly see it wasnt his fault. So over Formula Drift

looks like someone posted it already .. But what the hell here it is again

fixed
msglngth

thefro526 · 06-24-2012, 04:14 PM

Rant:

Formula Drift Judging is a joke and will always be a joke. The last time the judges were honest was like 04/05 before the big money came into play. Tony Angelo sort of kept them honest, but he was one vote out of three.

Now that Tangelo is driving again, there's no one that's a 'driver' to keep the judges in check which leads to them showing an huge amount of bias towards the driver who is sponsored by the company that throws the most money to FD. It's been like that for quite a few years, look at the number of Podiums that Falken has....

And the Saddest thing? FD wouldn't work without this judging Bias. Teams don't want to go to FD to get their asses handed to them by a superior driver. They want a return on their investment. They lose too much? They bail.

Imagine if Daigo won 2 or 3 of the events this season (which he should have)... All of the established drivers and teams would've been irate, bitched to FD and threatened to pull their money out.

ericcastro · 06-24-2012, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Lol, 2012 and people are still surprised??????????????

WHAT?

LOL,
The judging has never been good, but its soooo bad now its amazing they even get away with it.

roboticnissan · 06-24-2012, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_love_silvia

. it's what made me start loving aasbo's driving style and i became a fan of his. wish they never got rid of his supra though =(

They didnt get rid of it, he fucking totaled the shit out of it. Aasbo was the pioneer of missile cars for fd.

roboticnissan · 06-24-2012, 05:00 PM

Tyler definitely hit first, but holt shit his style and entry drift is too fucking amazing.

thefro526 · 06-24-2012, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

Aasbo was the pioneer of missile cars for fd.

.......

Must not have been following the series since the early days.

Back then it was common to see a beat to shit car running in FD. That was also when FD was remotely cool.

Shit, Perfect example:

http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/watch...t-houston-2005

Was trying to find the video of when he flipped, but I got lazy.

EjMalernee · 06-24-2012, 08:46 PM

Tyler Gets the Win? [SNAPSHOT] : Breaking Drift News

Tyler and Chelsea both commented on wrecked. It's interesting to hear both points of view. I still think Chelsea got a bad call, but Tyler is a class act. he should get any blame for what happened.

I think I'm more upset about Powers. He was driving like a mad man. The Daigo/Conrad still has me scratching my head too.
At the end of the day is nice to have a good discussion on a sport we love, even if it is the pros. Keep Drifting Fun!!!

ericcastro · 06-25-2012, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

They didnt get rid of it, he fucking totaled the shit out of it. Aasbo was the pioneer of missile cars for fd.

What do you mean.
Stephan drove it at Top Drift and They just sent it to China WDS.
The cars fine.
He got a sponsor so the new car is part of the deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526

.......
Must not have been following the series since the early days.
.

Like Hiro's car, lol.

roboticnissan · 06-25-2012, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericcastro

What do you mean.
Stephan drove it at Top Drift and They just sent it to China WDS.
The cars fine.
He got a sponsor so the new car is part of the deal.

Like Hiro's car, lol.

Wow totally forgot about hiro sumida, aasbo is much better tho.

OBEEWON · 06-25-2012, 02:33 PM

Vote for me as FD Supreme Judge leader and I promise to:

1. Disqualify all ugly cars
2. Add land mines
33. make a max ride height requirement
7. Fine anyone with positive camber
9. Put some thick models out to hold umbrellas instead of those anorexic ones
14. Ban ugly liveries
19. Make J-Rod learn Japanese and talk like Mana-P
211. Exact revenge on Chevrolet for ruining drifting

Okinawandrifter87 · 06-25-2012, 03:14 PM

^^ If that were true, I'd be your first vote.

fckillerbee · 06-25-2012, 03:31 PM

this doesn't need a thread. The FD judges know they don't judge....it's a popularity contest.

EjMalernee · 06-25-2012, 05:34 PM

OBEEWON as long as you don't cut your own hair then forget to cut the back you have my vote.

thefro526 · 06-25-2012, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericcastro

Like Hiro's car, lol.

Holy shit, I forgot about that car.

I have no IDEA how that thing managed to keep driving, but it did and it did well. Hiro was like the OG of having a fucking RAD missile car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Vote for me as FD Supreme Judge leader and I promise to:

1. Disqualify all ugly cars
2. Add land mines
33. make a max ride height requirement
7. Fine anyone with positive camber
9. Put some thick models out to hold umbrellas instead of those anorexic ones
14. Ban ugly liveries
19. Make J-Rod learn Japanese and talk like Mana-P
211. Exact revenge on Chevrolet for ruining drifting

King OB, there has been discussion of having HaterDan, Myself and Dave NJ make a run on the judging booth at next year's FD event. I'm assuming that you are down for this. We will wear matching tee shirts.

soreballz · 06-25-2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

1. Disqualify all ugly cars
2. Add land mines

Don't DQ the ugly cars. When they hit the land mines, it'll be far more satisfying.

Flipzide · 06-25-2012, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

19. Make J-Rod learn Japanese and talk like Mana-P

winning!

Chrischeezer · 06-25-2012, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Vote for me as FD Supreme Judge leader and I promise to:
2. Add land mines

"Proximity" mines??

i need tires · 06-26-2012, 10:41 AM

I wish the judges of drifting actually were drivers.... I think all of them just pretend to drive or have a 'drift car' that sits in the garage all day.

DJ-of-E · 06-26-2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Lol, 2012 and people are still surprised??????????????

WHAT?

I went to my first Formula D in 2004. During that time, the speed of the drift is just as important as angle. You see some really quick drifts where the guy in the rear would be docked points if his drift were slower. And if you're the chaser sticking it close to the slower guy in front, you pretty much godkill them.

I stopped on 2007 when those with much larger angles wins, despite being much further lag behind.

It's like figure skating and that previous Pacquiao fight. Too much judging for looks, no "neutral." I prefer track cuz the only judge is a digital clock/timer unless you did something stupid.

itsjustdaphne · 06-26-2012, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

this doesn't need a thread. The FD judges know they don't judge....it's a popularity contest.

this; so true.

i need tires · 06-26-2012, 01:41 PM

One of the FD judges.. he is about 8yr behind on the skill level of today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=IKJm3BX0e1w

tricky_ab · 06-26-2012, 07:33 PM

After watching the footage, all you can do is laugh it off and see how FD can explain this mess.

I'm all ears FD...

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Vote for me as FD Supreme Judge leader and I promise to:

1. Disqualify all ugly cars
2. Add land mines
33. make a max ride height requirement
7. Fine anyone with positive camber
9. Put some thick models out to hold umbrellas instead of those anorexic ones
14. Ban ugly liveries
19. Make J-Rod learn Japanese and talk like Mana-P
211. Exact revenge on Chevrolet for ruining drifting

You speak the truth and you have my vote...

codyace · 06-26-2012, 11:23 PM

Hmm, another figure skating type result...when will the 'higher ups' recognize this sort of debauchery is what creates the bad name.

Until there is a definitive judging list, I will forever have a hard time accepting 'drifting' as a competitive sport. Don't confuse my response; I know i's skillful and tough...but without any sort of basis, how can one 'entry' really better than the other. *sigh*. It's like saying your cousin was the worlds best Grilled Cheese Eater or something.

di-devol · 06-27-2012, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codyace

It's like saying your cousin was the worlds best Grilled Cheese Eater or something.

She was.

msglenth

SpOOlin13 · 06-27-2012, 12:33 AM

+1 vote for OBEEWON.

Trap Star · 06-27-2012, 12:49 AM

I'm still pissed about the fucking scion. Horrible judging is a close second.

HKSalex · 06-27-2012, 01:13 AM

i have to give it to daigo. he is an amazing driver... and such plus V8 can suck my cock.. lol

on a real note.. the guy probably has driven the track at least a dozen times before actually competing. as every one else has years and years of practice on each track...

i would never consider Formula D / D1GP a real motor-sport... its to judge... and we all know in real motor-sports time never lies

usdm180sx · 06-27-2012, 01:55 AM

There are THREE things that can FUCK OFF and GO TO HELL in this world: boxing, formula d and politics. Oh and jrod can suck his pencil rod. What a douchebag ass

EjMalernee · 06-27-2012, 03:31 AM

Some one hates jrod.

OBEEWON · 06-27-2012, 07:19 AM

Sorry Fro, I don't care enough about FD to run on the judges. I wouldn't even recognize them if I saw them. But I will take a T-shirt!

I do want to do FD in a all black super low car with a huge middle finger vinyl and drift all corners at 30mph and watch everyone struggle to follow me during tandem.

06-24-2012, 04:14 PM	#32
thefro526 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,813 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Rant: Formula Drift Judging is a joke and will always be a joke. The last time the judges were honest was like 04/05 before the big money came into play. Tony Angelo sort of kept them honest, but he was one vote out of three. Now that Tangelo is driving again, there's no one that's a 'driver' to keep the judges in check which leads to them showing an huge amount of bias towards the driver who is sponsored by the company that throws the most money to FD. It's been like that for quite a few years, look at the number of Podiums that Falken has.... And the Saddest thing? FD wouldn't work without this judging Bias. Teams don't want to go to FD to get their asses handed to them by a superior driver. They want a return on their investment. They lose too much? They bail. Imagine if Daigo won 2 or 3 of the events this season (which he should have)... All of the established drivers and teams would've been irate, bitched to FD and threatened to pull their money out. __________________ http://thefro526.wordpress.com/ Deto International

06-24-2012, 05:00 PM	#35
roboticnissan Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SOCAL/NORCAL Age: 32 Posts: 1,867 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Tyler definitely hit first, but holt shit his style and entry drift is too fucking amazing. __________________

06-25-2012, 02:33 PM	#40
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,051 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Vote for me as FD Supreme Judge leader and I promise to: 1. Disqualify all ugly cars 2. Add land mines 33. make a max ride height requirement 7. Fine anyone with positive camber 9. Put some thick models out to hold umbrellas instead of those anorexic ones 14. Ban ugly liveries 19. Make J-Rod learn Japanese and talk like Mana-P 211. Exact revenge on Chevrolet for ruining drifting __________________

06-25-2012, 03:14 PM	#41
Okinawandrifter87 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 3,959 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	^^ If that were true, I'd be your first vote. __________________ Driftphreak87

06-26-2012, 10:41 AM	#48
i need tires Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chandler, Az Age: 34 Posts: 1,056 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I wish the judges of drifting actually were drivers.... I think all of them just pretend to drive or have a 'drift car' that sits in the garage all day. __________________ JadeCantDrift Blogspot

06-24-2012, 08:46 PM	#37
EjMalernee Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando/FL Age: 35 Posts: 181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Tyler Gets the Win? [SNAPSHOT] : Breaking Drift News Tyler and Chelsea both commented on wrecked. It's interesting to hear both points of view. I still think Chelsea got a bad call, but Tyler is a class act. he should get any blame for what happened. I think I'm more upset about Powers. He was driving like a mad man. The Daigo/Conrad still has me scratching my head too. At the end of the day is nice to have a good discussion on a sport we love, even if it is the pros. Keep Drifting Fun!!!

06-25-2012, 03:31 PM	#42
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	this doesn't need a thread. The FD judges know they don't judge....it's a popularity contest.

06-25-2012, 05:34 PM	#43
EjMalernee Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando/FL Age: 35 Posts: 181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	OBEEWON as long as you don't cut your own hair then forget to cut the back you have my vote.

06-26-2012, 01:41 PM	#51
i need tires Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chandler, Az Age: 34 Posts: 1,056 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	One of the FD judges.. he is about 8yr behind on the skill level of today http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=IKJm3BX0e1w __________________ JadeCantDrift Blogspot

06-26-2012, 11:23 PM	#53
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 36 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	Hmm, another figure skating type result...when will the 'higher ups' recognize this sort of debauchery is what creates the bad name. Until there is a definitive judging list, I will forever have a hard time accepting 'drifting' as a competitive sport. Don't confuse my response; I know i's skillful and tough...but without any sort of basis, how can one 'entry' really better than the other. sigh. It's like saying your cousin was the worlds best Grilled Cheese Eater or something. __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

06-27-2012, 12:33 AM	#55
SpOOlin13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: morenovalley Posts: 212 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	+1 vote for OBEEWON.

06-27-2012, 12:49 AM	#56
Trap Star Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ATL/Sylva, NC Age: 33 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm still pissed about the fucking scion. Horrible judging is a close second. __________________ 86 300zx/90 240sx/97 240sx/96 LS400/03 350z -Shake N' Break Racing-

06-27-2012, 01:13 AM	#57
HKSalex Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Long Beach, CA Age: 29 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i have to give it to daigo. he is an amazing driver... and such plus V8 can suck my cock.. lol on a real note.. the guy probably has driven the track at least a dozen times before actually competing. as every one else has years and years of practice on each track... i would never consider Formula D / D1GP a real motor-sport... its to judge... and we all know in real motor-sports time never lies

06-27-2012, 01:55 AM	#58
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	There are THREE things that can FUCK OFF and GO TO HELL in this world: boxing, formula d and politics. Oh and jrod can suck his pencil rod. What a douchebag ass __________________ -Norm!

06-27-2012, 03:31 AM	#59
EjMalernee Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando/FL Age: 35 Posts: 181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Some one hates jrod.

06-27-2012, 07:19 AM	#60
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,051 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Sorry Fro, I don't care enough about FD to run on the judges. I wouldn't even recognize them if I saw them. But I will take a T-shirt! I do want to do FD in a all black super low car with a huge middle finger vinyl and drift all corners at 30mph and watch everyone struggle to follow me during tandem. __________________

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