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Old 04-15-2011, 04:28 PM   #31
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Skyward Sword comes out this year...Nice try though.

I think it's funny the Dreamcast comparisons and talking about Nintendo and failure. Yes, Gamecube was a letdown, but the Wii is THE #1 SELLING CONSOLE OF THIS GENERATION. It's hardly a Dreamcast. Not only that it was the console that the others tried copying.
2 yrs later it's actually coming out?


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Players will actually be able to stream game content to the controller screen from the console. It's unclear at this time what type of content it will be, whether it's full games you can take with you on the go, mini-games or applications.
Sounds like Dreamcast lol...
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What's most exciting about the Wii successor however is its all-new controller, which industry sources have indicated is not simply an upgraded Wii Remote, and will even feature a built-in HD screen.

Our sources did not specify whether or not the controller displays will feature any other functionality, such as that of the DS's touch screen, but it's easy to imagine the sort of innovation an extra screen could bring to Wii 2 games.

"Nintendo's plans sound unreal," one source said. "Publishers are already planning launch titles and it's all very exciting.

"The hardware is even more powerful than current HD consoles and backwards compatible with Wii. The controller will be all-new and has a HD screen on it."
CVG reports all new controller with built-in HD screen.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-2012-sources/


If the late 2012 launch is true and if the speculation that it's at our around the power of current HD consoles, that's very disappointing news.

That's a lot of "if's" though. Not sure what the strategy is here though, unless it blows PS3/360 out of the water graphically or has some new 'trick' up its sleeve...If it's just PS3/360-ballpark graphics...umm...nice, but I'd have preferred this in Wii, Nintendo. I feel like I'd be buying two systems to get the single lifecycle I wanted.
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The reports I've read said it's significantly more powerful then the PS3 and 360.

Obviously this is all speculation at this point.
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honestly that wouldnt be hard to be more powerful than ps3 and 360, both systems came out in 05-06 or so. thats like 5-6 years ago already , I remember reading that this current generation has had a longer run so far, and expected to last for a few more years.
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I'm excited to see this. Hopefully it isn't $8,000,000.
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Kinda cool news.... I havent been happy with nintendo's products in the last 8 years to be honest. It fell off after super nintendo. PS took over and never looked back...
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I'm interested in what they come out with. I had a PS1 and a PS2, but when the PS3 came out with a $600 pricetag, I had no interest in wasting that kind of money. I got a Wii a year or 2 after it came out, and have enjoyed it non-stop since them.
Agreed I was all down for a PS3 until I learned they cost a kidney to buy. I got my Wii only a while a go but I am enjoying it so much. I FUCKING LOVE No More Heroes 1/2.

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honestly that wouldnt be hard to be more powerful than ps3 and 360, both systems came out in 05-06 or so. thats like 5-6 years ago already
I was thinking that too. This kind of reminds me how the dreamcast was more powerful than the N64 and the PS1 but less so than Ps2. i am wondering if Nintendo can be putting themselves in a similar situation.
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if you think though PS2 had a pricetag of what $400? and was selling for alot more when it first came out back in 2000. PS3 was only $200 more 6 years later. although inflation wasnt 50%, its a huge jump in technology for the price increase. 600 really wasnt a bad price for the ps3 but it wasnt all that attractive. I remember getting a ps2 christmas of 2000 and finding out my parents had to pre-order/pay for it back in like May of that year to get it for retail and not have to pay like $800 for it.
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if you think though PS2 had a pricetag of what $400? and was selling for alot more when it first came out back in 2000. PS3 was only $200 more 6 years later. although inflation wasnt 50%, its a huge jump in technology for the price increase. 600 really wasnt a bad price for the ps3 but it wasnt all that attractive. I remember getting a ps2 christmas of 2000 and finding out my parents had to pre-order/pay for it back in like May of that year to get it for retail and not have to pay like $800 for it.
Tech increased yeah, but I still don't think it warranted the price tag that much. Look at how the Xbox 360 was priced compared to the Xbox. PS3 is full of tech but how much of it is put to it's true use?
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PS3 had a Bluray drive built in and those via standalone were more expensive so that's where the added cost came in. Honestly I'm into tech and I usually buy the new consoles when they drop.
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lol, it seems that there is a disconnect in how bad hardcore gamers think Nintendo is doing, and the reality that they are making bank because they have a product that has ma$$ appeal with the Wii. They make it seem like Nintendo is about to go bankrupt. Give me a break.

Someone's gonna make the daily driver sedans and someone's gonna make the enthusiast cars. Seems like Nintendo is going to dab in both at the same time and have a much more balanced business plan because of it.

Also, I read somewhere a while back that for people who own two consoles, one of them is usally a Wii. As in PS3/Wii and Xbox/Wii, and the percentage of those who own both an PS3/Xbox is much much lower.
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This new console cannot be marketed as a "Wii HD" if they want it to succeed.

This new product is going to have to be revolutionary and not evolutionary.

It needs a new name, and it needs a new industry leading core feature if Nintendo wants to duplicate the success of the Wii.

People will probably still buy a "Wii HD", but to me that just says "I'm the same as a Wii, but now I come in HD!"

I'm pretty sure it's going to be called SUPER Wii
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I own a xbox/wii. xbox is for my serious games... wii is mainly for the kids, although when I have friends come over....it's really fucking fun to play multiplayer. I mean...not everyone can pick up a xbox controller, and know what they are doing in 15 minutes. Most get overwhelmed and quit. However, games like wii sports, make it easy for everyone. That's why N is killing the game....everyone can play it. And guess what...graphics are shitty...but its REALLY fucking fun.

If this nintendo has better graphics, and has a decent racing franchise, then I'll be happy. PS3 was a bust. GT5 bla bla....it sucked. I still put major hours into Forza. Damn glad I didn't waste my money on a PS3.
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Ummm, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo not only has sold more consoles this generation, but was also, what 3-4 years ahead of Sony and MS on motion controls? It was Sony and MS that have been playing catch up this whole generation. One thing this generation has proved is that graphics are not necessarily as important as gameplay. In fact Nintendo has had that same mindeset since the NES, hence why they do have so many classic franchises that are constantly the best games in their genres.

Spoken like a true fanboy....99 % of Wii games are garbage and geared at 5-12 year olds. Xbox and PS3 are not and never tried to be Nintendo. So they dont compare and I dont know why people buy into the Sales hype. Who cares about sales it aint nothing but a number of dumb people who "want" or "kids want" to buy the newest thing. Games to me mean more and what sell me...Motion controls are a fad that is being played out. Seriously how many different hand movements can you do till its starts getting repetetive (like almost every wii game)..I'm not a fanboy of any system in fact I have everything including Wii and I started on the classics but where the heck are the good games at? They cant over produce zelda/mario/metroid and over saturate the market with those because they will burn them out. Wii's gimick was the controls but its games made it its downfall. If Nintendo unviels a system better than PS3 or Xbox you think Sony and Microsoft arent working on something to outdo its own on the next gen console?? LOL....that would leave Nintendo in the back again in the Graphics power department. haha. "One thing this generation has proved is that graphics are not necessarily as important as gameplay" this is dumb sorry man....You must be easily amused. As a real gamer I look for a game that is a total package and that is what every modern game studio goes for and try to create.
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Spoken like a true fanboy....99 % of Wii games are garbage and geared at 5-12 year olds. Xbox and PS3 are not and never tried to be Nintendo. So they dont compare and I dont know why people buy into the Sales hype. Who cares about sales it aint nothing but a number of dumb people who "want" or "kids want" to buy the newest thing. Games to me mean more and what sell me...Motion controls are a fad that is being played out. Seriously how many different hand movements can you do till its starts getting repetetive (like almost every wii game)..I'm not a fanboy of any system in fact I have everything including Wii and I started on the classics but where the heck are the good games at? They cant over produce zelda/mario/metroid and over saturate the market with those because they will burn them out. Wii's gimick was the controls but its games made it its downfall. If Nintendo unviels a system better than PS3 or Xbox you think Sony and Microsoft arent working on something to outdo its own on the next gen console?? LOL....that would leave Nintendo in the back again in the Graphics power department. haha. "One thing this generation has proved is that graphics are not necessarily as important as gameplay" this is dumb sorry man....You must be easily amused. As a real gamer I look for a game that is a total package and that is what every modern game studio goes for and try to create.
Spoken like a true fanboy on the other side. And if you think that is dumb you haven't had your eyes open. Shadow Complex, Angry Birds, New Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario Galaxy,. Sword & Sorcery. I could go on and on listing games that are not considered graphical powerhouses that have had nothing but critical acclaim and prove that not everyone is completely caught up on just graphics.

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if you think though PS2 had a pricetag of what $400? and was selling for alot more when it first came out back in 2000. PS3 was only $200 more 6 years later. although inflation wasnt 50%, its a huge jump in technology for the price increase. 600 really wasnt a bad price for the ps3 but it wasnt all that attractive. I remember getting a ps2 christmas of 2000 and finding out my parents had to pre-order/pay for it back in like May of that year to get it for retail and not have to pay like $800 for it.
PS2 was $299 on day one and it played DVD's. Making the PS3 $300 more.
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What is a "real gamer"? I agree with Mel you arguemy sounds fan boyish as well. It reminds of some 240 owners who tell civic owner they don't have real cars because the civics can't drift.
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Trust me not angry at all or a fanboy of any one system....I look at the overall picture...But as you state you are a fanboy so everything you post your glorifying the wii to epic status which in reality is not that great. Shadow Complex is an awsome game (a bite or tribute as they state of metroid but great game) but its a downloadable only on Xbox game not sure what that proves (gameplay nothing new)? Angry birds is also downloadable so again its not geared toward graphics anyway but to waste time on the billions of Apple/Android cellphones out there. How many games you think this franchise is gonna produce till it gets boring (after a level or two it already is)....back to wii again..."new" super mario brothers was nothing "new" but a remake with wii controls.....Super Mario Galaxy was a great game I liked it but gameplay is the same concept of all other marios?? Collect, stomp, and get princess peach back.....If i were him I would go look for a another chick because I would have gotten tired of chasing her ass and bowser can just keep her. Besides mario gets more rides from Yoshi than her....and yoshi gots the tongue action....sorry couldnt resist..haha
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Yep, I'm a fanboy. And proud of it. lol
In my first post.

But seriously...I never said that the PS3 or the 360 were bad systems? I own both. I play both. I never said that that this new Nintendo was going to be the end all be all of consoles. I realize if it's the next gen it HAS to be more powerful. I never once implied that Sony or MS couldn't come out with a new system that could be twice as powerful as whatever Nitnendo is cooking up. The truth is anyone one of them could release a system at any time that is more powerful than what the last guy released.

All I've said are facts about the Wii, 360, and PS3. One that the Wii IS the best selling console of this generation. Why, doesn't really matter because that is a fact. Second was that both Sony and MS released motion controls to try and capture some of the market Nintendo created with the Wii. That is a fact and they have all openly admitted that.

I also mentioned that this generation has proved that graphics aren't the only thing that sells games. And considering games like Wii Sports and Wii Resorts have sold almost 200 million copies, and games like Shadow Complex, and Sword And Sorcery have been released to critical praise and sales matching full retail releases, that is indeed true. I'm not saying AAA titles aren't good or aren't selling. What I'm saying is that people are realizing that that isn't the only type of game out there.

So really, how am I being a fanboy? Because I'm excited for a new Nintendo console? Well if that's the reason, I'm guilty. But don't get it twisted. if there was a new MS or Sony console coming out I'd be the first one to make a thread about those.

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Who was complaining about the price? Not me. And how do you be "a fucking poor"?
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What am I a fanboy of? I'm not sticking to one system or game and saying its the best....I have all the systems and play all sorts of games. If you open a thread to discuss the new nintendo system its cool but when some one starts stating one system or game is better then everyone...its not being factual or open minded....and opens the discussion more broadly....But to the original subject....I this new console brings out quality games at launch it would definately be something to check out.....but right now its just speculation or hype build up
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i really hope the gaming powerhouse goes back to nintendo. more and more developers to start cranking badass games.
2nd this! I love nintendo dont get me wrong guys....I started on it. I want them to succeed so my kids can play it. But they are digging a grave for themselves and being dissapointed I do bash them a bit....Just walking into any video game retailer and seeing the hordes of crap 3rd party games (heck they almost give them away at the prices they are selling them at). If they make a system that has a kid friendly game base (which they have down) as well as older and bridge the gap....Their back in it....How cool would it be to go from playing Zelda and then jumping on Modern Warfare...(please do not mention the Modern warfares on wii, because that is a serious argument...those should not exist)
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:35 PM   #54
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I HATE, HATE, HATE Modern Warfare. IMO that game is what's wrong with gaming right now. No innovation. no creativity, nothing.

Creativity to me is taking Mario and putting him and space and making it work flawlessly. That was innovation. New SMB, eh, who doesn't like a good old fashion side scroller.
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I don't hate Modern Warfare but I don't look at them as the be all of gaming. I persoanally like games that really on a really interesting story(???), characters(no more heroes) or innovative ways to play. (portal)

I am glad though Nintendo is finally putting some power to a gaming system as fun as they are sometimes I wish the games didn't look like ass.

One thing I bet we can all agree on that I hope they do.


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I'm interested to see what Nintendo comes out with next, hopefully something I might be interested in buying.

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BTW, I have all three current systems and the Wii probably gets the most play time.
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I HATE, HATE, HATE Modern Warfare. IMO that game is what's wrong with gaming right now. No innovation. no creativity, nothing.

Creativity to me is taking Mario and putting him and space and making it work flawlessly. That was innovation. New SMB, eh, who doesn't like a good old fashion side scroller.

Bit of contradiction there.

Let me state my bias by saying Mario 89 comes out and I'll still be jerking off to it and Cod could never have another game and it won't affect my life.

Modern Warfare didn't do anything innovative but they brought out something many already loved, the only difference between another typical fps and a 2d side scroller is YOU personally like one over the other.
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Yeah I'm totally burned out on FPS. I haven't bought one a couple years now. They all feel like the same game to me. I bought tons of them the first few years I had my 360.

It's funny how when we were growing up there was nothing but side scrollers and then 3D came along and everyone practically abandoned them.

And now developers are realizing that people still do enjoy that type of game and you don't HAVE to make the next big FPS.
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i really hope the gaming powerhouse goes back to nintendo. more and more developers to start cranking badass games.
Hmmm, I don't think this will happen. With the current production environment, a wii game costs half as much as a xbox/ps3 game to produce.

I think Nintendo has a niche here where they can attract 3rd party developers due to

1. Lower production costs due to hardware limitations
2. Larger market for potential customers (due to sheer number of wiis sold).

They'd be stupid to try and outspend two HUGE corporations. It's better to just do what they can't.
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