Brian

Picked up a new flag the other day at the surplus store. Made in USA, actually.

Also, been picking up DSCP shirts recently. plain. brown. no problem, man.

Just got a new US Issue Gerber MP600 today as well.

Got to keep the ball rolling...

My New Balances are made here too apparently.

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Felipe

Got one of thies for my birthday

Smith&wesson

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I support capitalism.

dawagarage

couldve sworn i read somewhere that it doesnt, but couldnt find an example.
made in china or USA?
last year i searched and searched for a US made knife. settled on one at sports chalet. i told the guy i wanted one that was action open, american made, and had serrations. after i got home i saw 'made in china.' $80 knife! it did have a warranty though.

ive read that some 'american' companies like gerber, buck, s&w have 2 lines. 1 is the high quality US stuff and the other is the inexpensive stuff outsourced to china. it's companies like walmart that stock their products that demand these US companies offer them (walmart) a cheap product

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Davidna2fi

I love to hear debates that deal with items assembled in the USA with parts made in another country due to cost. Once Chinese workers begin to raise their pay due to livable wage standards, all the companies will come back to the USA and hire. Anyone follow what is happening to Apple and Foxxconn over in China? Last year 1,000 workers vowed to commit suicide if wages were not increased...those employees won. It's small steps like these that will eventually bring work back to the US and world economies will become BALANCED, not equal, just BALANCED at who can make what the best and not the cheapest. I think Germany has a pretty good grip on Automotive Technology.

az_240

ahahah I actually dropped that exact knife into my bare foot a few years back. Couldn't do shit for like a year because of it and still dealing with pain to this day.

Honestly tho it's a pos. You literally have to hold the knife really tight or it just flops around as you try to cut something... it's heavy for it's size but not a solid knife by any means.

S14DB

Thread is Made in America. Not owned by Americans.
2 of them are Made in America. I wouldn't be surprised if the other 4 are for 922 compliance.

Only thing that will work in China is Corporate Responsibility and inspections. A lot of large company's having their stuff made in foreign countries are holding their factory's to higher standards and hiring people or 3rd party's to check the plants for compliance. Unfortunately most of this comes from public pressure and embarrassment from leaked videos. Very few company's do it to be fair to their workers. But, this is true anywhere in the world...
Never owned a German car? Most German cars aren't even made in Germany anymore.
What's really sad is that there are more foreign cars made in the USA than American cars.


Really we have always been innovators and creators and not worker bee's.Most of are GPD comes from white collar not blue.

Another interesting article:
Trade surging as Mexico consumers embrace 'Made in USA' | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times

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Mikester

LOL as S14DB said, 2 are...

More ironic yet- The statue of Liberty was built in France

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Ownership/made in America blah blah blah.










I still want the FNC on the bottom so I can pretend I'm Al Pacino in "Heat"...one came up for sale about a year ago on our local gun trading site for the hefty price of $4000.

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tiggertsi

where did this 65% figure come from? i'd like to know. on my harley almost everything is NOT made in the US. the only things i can think of that are would be the bare frame and some of the engine componets and tank and fenders.

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dawagarage

im glad to hear an occasion of when the workers actually won. i listen to npr news sometimes and they were talking about that recent fire at one of the 'sweat shops,' i want to say in was in malaysia (correct me if im wrong.) it was a tragic story of how many people died because the building safety was lacking big time. a few workers were interviewed and they say that even if they protest, do not work, etc that their rates wont be changed (raised.) the reason for this is that if they ask H&M and similar companies to raise their wages, those companies will just look for cheap workers elsewhere in other countries (india, etc)

but there is a good outcome to all of that. a bunch of big companies signed a contract or similar saying they will raise rates, and ensure building safety, and all that. i think walmart was one of the big companies who was asked to join and they said no, later stating that they would do their own safety audits and all that.

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Corbic

The Google.

http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/v-...-made-usa.html

Much of the meat and potatoes are US Made. It's the tacky accessories and branded garbage that comes from over seas. You can avoid this problem by buying non-HD accessories. Just shop for hand made mom+pop custom parts made by people all across the US.

I'd rather give a guy working out of a rental garage a thousand bucks for some saddle bags then buy some garbage at a dealer with some cool logos.

DJ-of-E

That's just you, but considering capitalism puts value on non-usable criteria, such as "branding," 10 other people would just pay the extra 300% just for the brand.

$50 polo shirts, anyone?

Also, even if it is made in America, the person sewing it is makng pennies for each shirt to make. Go thank American Apparrel and a bunch of Vietnamese families >_>

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Corbic

Most people are stupid and shop at Walmart.

I personally get greater satisfaction knowing I have "artisan" produced good over mass marketed garbage.

This is especially true when dealing with motorcycles and cars.

Felipe

Not sure... I see no markings.

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[QUOTE=az_240;5366205]ahahah I actually dropped that exact knife into my bare foot a few years back. Couldn't do shit for like a year because of it and still dealing with pain to this day.

Honestly tho it's a pos. You literally have to hold the knife really tight or it just flops around as you try to cut something... it's heavy for it's size but not a solid knife by any means.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it is heavy lol locks in prety good havent had any folding problems.... Yet! lol

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!Zar!

Only certain models. Over 75% of all New Balance shoes are made overseas.

And of those Made in the USA models, only 70% (iirc) are actually required to be made in the USA to be able to adorn that badge.

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Hands down the most comfortable shoe evar.

Brian

Yes I know. The ones I have are USA ones.

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Felipe

Im surprised that no one has said anything about toyota in nascar...

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Corbic

Why?

The only thing "Toyota" is the block and it would not suprise me if it was milled in the USA. If fact it would not suprise me if everyone involved in the program is an American.

Besides, 4-5 of their vehicles are on the top 10 list for highest US parts content. (Camry, Sienna, Tundra, Avalon and depending on the list Tacoma).

Chrysler is owned by the same Italians that destroyed AMC and are now looking to kill the Dodge brand. That's more of a concern to me.

S14DB

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I second that most of the Toyota's sold in America were built in America. Big three's cars are coming from Mexico and Canada.


Chrysler got fleeced by MB and now it looks like Fiat is going to slowly re-brand their cars as dodges. Still pissed at the "Imported to Detroit" crap and suing Pure Detroit. When none of the cars in the ad were made in Detroit.

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Matej

Trying to desperately cling to buying American-made hard goods is dumb. In fact, chances are that you will only get an overpriced and inferior product.

America has been mainly a service economy for a while now. There is nothing wrong with that. That actually means that its economy has evolved beyond the point of having to rely on the country's industry and manufacture. A service economy is the staple of a first world country, so you gentlemen should embrace it instead.

Or if you want to be able to buy more American trinkets, disband all the unions and convince assembly line and factory workers that they are overpaid. If they do not want kids in Indonesia to take their jobs, they should be willing to work for less and give up their health care and all the other benefits that they for some reason feel entitled to.

S14DB

We design the shit that china makes. Innovation is still our strong point.

Precision made goods we are still the best bang for buck. Consumer grade junk doesn't take the skill that we possess or the cost for that skill.

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Matej

Exactly.
That is what the first world is about. Do the design and science and thinking. Have someone else do the dirty non-profitable manual work.


Also some of the most generic shoes ever, not to mention that style of boot was invented in Germany. And is it really necessary for the Made in America tag to be on the outside of the shoe? It is painfully obvious they are marketed at saps who will buy anything with an American flag on it, and apparently it is working.

Would you rather have all the factories spewing pollution into your precious American air, when they can be in China destroying people's health there instead, while we get to reap the profits?

Inconveniently going out of one's way just to find a product that is made in a specific place is laughable, especially with how little it matters in today's global market.
Such silly pickiness reminds me of vegans, or the freaks who go to a restaurant and ask the waiter how many calories are in the meal they are thinking about ordering.

I am quite surprised how some you gentlemen came to be patrons of a discussion forum about a Nissan vehicle.

Corbic

And every day those jobs are being both outsourced and imported. Banking, Tech Support, Engineering, lab-testing - all going to India. We also bring in a grotesque number of programers, doctors and scientists.

Won't belong till you can't even order your cheese burger from some pimple faced high school kid.

Outsourcing Drive Thru? - CBS News

No fucks Given. I didn't realize hiking required footwear that made a fashion statement. Maybe if you didn't have your head up your ass you'd realize people often buy products to serve a purpose. Go Google Danner and checkout the professional reviews. They truly are some of the best boots you can buy. No break in period, no sores, no blisters - I could march for days. The build quality is outstanding. No off-stiches, delaminating soles, supple leather, durable interior.

I'm sorry it offends you that someone may take pride in owning something their neighbor made. I wonder if I can dig up some posts by you shitting on "knock off parts"... hmmm

I'd rather the factories not be spewing shit anywhere. At least in the US we have regulations and standards. If you actually understood global logistics you would already know that LABOR COSTS are not what drives business overseas. It's the REGULATIONS and TAXES. The fact that a US worker needs $14 an hour while a Chinese one needs $1.50 is irrelevant once you factor in the cost of the supply chain, however it's the cost of building plants, maintaining safety standards, paying taxes etc. that makes manufacturing over seas more appealing.

Additionally I'm glad you laugh at the blight of foreign workers. Would you be cool if we brought back 18th century slavery? What about industrial age barbarity? That's more or less what transnational industrialization is. Rather then "paying" people nothing, forcing them to live in compounds and working them to death in our own backyard - we just do it our of sight out of mind in a country with strict media control who's rulers are happy to press their people into slavery in order to line their own pockets.

We can't all eat Big Macs and shop at Walmart. As you get older you'll realize spending the extra 5 minutes and $5 bucks to buy a superior, both in function, but also in form, product is worth it.

Corbic

Exactly -

What would you rather have, a Godspeed manifold, or a Full Race Manifold?

dawagarage

matej i dont know why youre so against buying american. it almost seems to me as if youre trolling and trying to get a rise outta some people.

i agree there are some american made companies that are needlessly over priced, but i believe this thread topic is about quality american made goods that last much longer than their outsourced counterparts.

and bringing up the japanese car thread thing. well, japanese (and european, specifically german) parts are also great quality made products. but as such they already sell for a 'not cheap' price and as such will cost even more after shipping and everything to the states.

this thread is more about the opposition to products that are cheaply made with little or no regulations, craftsmanship, pride, quality assurance, etc, which is usually the case with mass produced products made overseas with only $$ in mind.

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made in america.....

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I bought a Kershaw knife. Built locally (Tigard, Or) and my dad works there. He actually machined the blade himself, that's about as American as you can get.

In my opinion USA made isn't a big deal for 99% of the non car related shit I buy. Bag of chinese socks. $12 vietnamese t shirt. Big whoop. The only time I'm concerned where a product is made is when I'm dropping big bucks. Example, my buddie bought a doc manifold for his sr, ended up being close to $900. Drove to the shop, watched it being built (made to order obviously) and bullshitted with the fabricater. That's what's it's all about in my mind.


Also I find this tread ironic seeing as how it's a Japanese car forum