180sxmaniac

I've driven both cars extensively and there's no comparison between the Miata and FRS. The boxer motor in the FRS is so responsive and so punchy that the Miata just wouldn't stand a chance. Now maybe a Mazdaspeed Miata that's boosting would have a chance to take down the FRS but not any other Miata.

180sxmaniac

There's some truth to that,first off the GC doesn't need a V8. As soon as any manufacturer throws a V8 in a 2door car that car no longer becomes a sports car it becomes a muscle car and yes there is a difference. However the GC has a 2.0 big turbo (the only turbo FR layout sport car on the market,335i is luxury not sports car) and a V6 that has more power than any other V6 on the market to my knowledge. A V8 isn't needed rest my case. A turbo model is likely trust me,they just wanted to see how the car would sell as an NA before they go through with a turbo similar to the WRX to Sti. Yes the price would probably be closer to 41K for the turbo model but on the flip side the NA's would lose significant value making them even more affordable. I haven't seen the sale numbers yet seeing how the FRS hasn't been out for a full year yet, but I guarantee the Genesis Coupe is more appealing than the FRS. Most who are buying the FRS are doing it because they want to have the "Hot New Thing" or older people who think the Miata is too slow or too small for them. End of the day genesis coupe is more bang for the buck and I think we all can agree on that

simmode1

I'm just at the point where I feel that an N/A V6 is obsolete in a world where modern 4 cylinder turbo cars can make the same power while using less gas. But that same turbo 4 would have a hard time matching the power & torque of something like Hyundai's Tau 5.0 V8. Now that would be a true range topper, IMO. But whatever. Never gonna happen.

Oh and btw... The 370Z Nismo's VQ37 is about 2hp more powerful than Hyundai's 3.8L, IIRC.

Anyway, here's some comparos. Just sucks that there's not a single 2013 GC vs G37 or 335i review ANYWHERE.

DJ-of-E

And can rev higher with longer power band...but I applaud the GC as a step to right direction unlike Honda.

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Akito86

Here in CA as well as Japan the gt86/ Frs86 it's selling massively I see them everywhere and 90% of the time they have been mooded one way or another TAS was full of them!
The z on the other hand sold great aswell but to everyday driver and enthusiasts aswell, I believe the frs has more of an enthusiast back up. Both do looks amazing! The Z/frs have timeless looks.
But you can't compare power to power on a Z and Frs unless it was a new S-chassis vs Frs. If the frs ever came turbo it will be a a Japan-Euro mix only, the US would be left out, because of their greedy ridiculous regulations just to make money. Quite sure we can all agree on that, then again Subarus line up is turbine!

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simmode1

WTF does this mean...?

Anyways... Here's another comparison review. Finally someone calls the FRS for what it really is: overhyped.

MrChow

Best stock drift cars that's I've ever drifted is:
All around: M3 E90 E92 it gets kinda of scary at +100mph and the corkscrew...
IS-F is just a fun on Laguna, but it's good at getting nice drifts much heavier but the TQ is nice.
My co-worker will say he think it's was the AMG C63 that was best car he's ever drifted at +100mph

I don't have stuff for Laguna. But here some stuff from my local autox.



Anyways back on topic =P

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