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doridoridori · 11-16-2016, 01:44 AM

So i'm new to the SR world. I hope not to get too much of a hard time if what im asking has been covered before which I wouldn't doubt just couldn't find the answers i was looking for in the search. Been considering doing a SR swap (non s-chassis). I was considering on getting a S14 SR to start off with a T28 but a S13 SR T25 seems to have fallen into my hands rather cheap (import engine). I heard the stock whp was under 200whp. I would at the minimum would like 200whp but if i could be at a conservative 250whp would be nice. I've heard some people mention getting a S14 T28 on the S13 blacktop and I'm going to assume the internals are the same if not close between the S13/S14 blacktop variations aside from the VVT (correct me if i'm wrong). So my question is what can i expect from the stock S13 SR. On top of that if im trying to hit 250whp what is the most I can do with stock injectors, maf, ecu without having to go afermarket ecu and tune. I will have a walbro 255. Intake/aftermarket turbo mani help much also?

thanks in advance

rawgarage · 11-16-2016, 03:22 AM

there are so many threads covering this....

*brndck* · 11-16-2016, 07:17 AM

op you literally could not have done LESS research.

please make best friends with the SEARCH button and refrain from making new threads till 2018

doridoridori · 11-16-2016, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brndck

op you literally could not have done LESS research.

please make best friends with the SEARCH button and refrain from making new threads till 2018

Unless there is an issue with the search bar I typed in the same thing I'm asking about and I didn't find what i was looking for. Also Google searched but I didn't find those details, excuse me for asking 😑🔫

hanzbrady · 11-16-2016, 10:17 AM

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...r20det%20build

Lying is bad mkaaaaay.

cbeuglas · 11-16-2016, 11:07 AM

http://forums.nicoclub.com/hp-with-b...sr-t59344.html

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doridoridori · 11-16-2016, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanzbrady

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...r20det%20build

Lying is bad mkaaaaay.

wasn't lying but appreciate the link.

itsjustdaphne · 11-16-2016, 09:20 PM

No need to go aftermarket ecu, you can get a mail order rom tune through rs-enthalpy.com

derass · 11-16-2016, 10:05 PM

First result from Google, 220whp:

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=247317

doridoridori · 11-17-2016, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsjustdaphne

No need to go aftermarket ecu, you can get a mail order rom tune through rs-enthalpy.com

i've heard good and bad things about them. Is it safe to get a rom tune and just drive it from there or would i still need a dyno tune? (im assuming so)

KAT-PWR · 11-17-2016, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doridoridori

i've heard good and bad things about them. Is it safe to get a rom tune and just drive it from there or would i still need a dyno tune? (im assuming so)

Rom tune is fine. Rs Enthalpy changed hands many moons ago and I can't remember ever seeing a bad review since Martin took over.

Jorgs_7 · 11-17-2016, 09:58 PM

GT28
CodyAce manifold w/external w.g.
JWT S4 cams
3" FMIC
850cc injectors / WB255
MAP based
standalone EMS
3" intake/exhaust
Some MLS head gasket

/best SR set up ever 350 WHP - 400 WHP

DurtyD · 11-17-2016, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorgs_7

GT28
CodyAce manifold w/external w.g.
JWT S4 cams
3" FMIC
850cc injectors / WB255
MAP based
standalone EMS
3" intake/exhaust
Some MLS head gasket

/best SR set up ever 350 WHP - 400 WHP

Really want to do something like this for my sr, how much you think all that costed?

jedi03 · 11-18-2016, 07:35 AM

I would guess about 4k as long as you do the work...used parts would save some money

doridoridori · 11-18-2016, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAT-PWR

Rom tune is fine. Rs Enthalpy changed hands many moons ago and I can't remember ever seeing a bad review since Martin took over.

roger that im considering it, im debating on keeping the T25 or just looking for a S14 T28 but i'd like to retain the stock injectors

jedi03 · 11-19-2016, 11:24 AM

do the 28...you will be much happier

gaz_moose · 11-19-2016, 12:37 PM

I would just fit,
FMIC
free flow exhaust
air filter
T28 off an s14 (a lot of import s14 and s15's came with BB t28's)
uprated fuel pump
1 bar of boost
some kind of ecu chip
98 ron ++++ fuel
that should see you at about 280hp which is the limit of the AFM and injectors.

a Z32 AFM and some s15 injectors and a gt28rs aka disco potato would see you at 250hp but you may aswell stick some 740's and a gt2871r or a gtx2867r and be near 400hp. a stock unopened SR will take 400hp providing its not knackered before you bolt it all on.

*TheRealSy90* · 11-19-2016, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorgs_7

GT28
CodyAce manifold w/external w.g.
JWT S4 cams
3" FMIC
850cc injectors / WB255
MAP based
standalone EMS
3" intake/exhaust
Some MLS head gasket

/best SR set up ever 350 WHP - 400 WHP

Or a TD-06 20g.

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Jorgs_7 · 11-19-2016, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DurtyD

Really want to do something like this for my sr, how much you think all that costed?

Got a decent amount second hand (AEM v2 for 700$, used GTX turbo)

I was around ~4500$

doridoridori · 11-19-2016, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaz_moose

I would just fit,
FMIC
free flow exhaust
air filter
T28 off an s14 (a lot of import s14 and s15's came with BB t28's)
uprated fuel pump
1 bar of boost
some kind of ecu chip
98 ron ++++ fuel
that should see you at about 280hp which is the limit of the AFM and injectors.

a Z32 AFM and some s15 injectors and a gt28rs aka disco potato would see you at 250hp but you may aswell stick some 740's and a gt2871r or a gtx2867r and be near 400hp. a stock unopened SR will take 400hp providing its not knackered before you bolt it all on.

badass thanks for the info man!

scottie · 11-21-2016, 09:52 AM

My setup:

GTX2867R
Codyace Cast Mani - Tial WG
Swaintech Coated
PBM DP
Custom Recirc 304SS w/Flex Section (into the divided wg side of dp)
Vibrant 90* elbow compressor outlet

**This setup combined with the PBM HMIC required only (4) couplers**

I will post again once reinstalled along with the mani cover and misc items. Supporting mods include:

Nistune
DW 950's
CNC'd Rail
AEM FPR
300zx MAF
300zx Fuel Filter
Splitfire Coil Packs
Greddy Profec B
Greddy Intake Mani
JWT S4 Cams

*TheRealSy90* · 11-21-2016, 11:24 AM

You better share what kind of numbers that setup makes! I need something to compare to haha.

11-16-2016, 01:44 AM	#1
doridoridori Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: cali Posts: 426 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	S13 SR20DET simple mods So i'm new to the SR world. I hope not to get too much of a hard time if what im asking has been covered before which I wouldn't doubt just couldn't find the answers i was looking for in the search. Been considering doing a SR swap (non s-chassis). I was considering on getting a S14 SR to start off with a T28 but a S13 SR T25 seems to have fallen into my hands rather cheap (import engine). I heard the stock whp was under 200whp. I would at the minimum would like 200whp but if i could be at a conservative 250whp would be nice. I've heard some people mention getting a S14 T28 on the S13 blacktop and I'm going to assume the internals are the same if not close between the S13/S14 blacktop variations aside from the VVT (correct me if i'm wrong). So my question is what can i expect from the stock S13 SR. On top of that if im trying to hit 250whp what is the most I can do with stock injectors, maf, ecu without having to go afermarket ecu and tune. I will have a walbro 255. Intake/aftermarket turbo mani help much also? thanks in advance

11-16-2016, 10:17 AM	#5
hanzbrady Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,168 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...r20det%20build Lying is bad mkaaaaay. __________________ [email protected]

11-16-2016, 09:20 PM	#8
itsjustdaphne Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South FL Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	No need to go aftermarket ecu, you can get a mail order rom tune through rs-enthalpy.com __________________ @ddaapphh \| @spectuned

11-21-2016, 09:52 AM	#21
scottie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: asluT Posts: 1,287 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	My setup: GTX2867R Codyace Cast Mani - Tial WG Swaintech Coated PBM DP Custom Recirc 304SS w/Flex Section (into the divided wg side of dp) Vibrant 90* elbow compressor outlet This setup combined with the PBM HMIC required only (4) couplers I will post again once reinstalled along with the mani cover and misc items. Supporting mods include: Nistune DW 950's CNC'd Rail AEM FPR 300zx MAF 300zx Fuel Filter Splitfire Coil Packs Greddy Profec B Greddy Intake Mani JWT S4 Cams __________________ IG: @scotheocelot

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11-16-2016, 03:22 AM	#2
rawgarage Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: h o u s t o n Age: 32 Posts: 5,990 Trader Rating: (75) Feedback Score: 75 reviews	there are so many threads covering this....

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cbeuglas Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: United States Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	http://forums.nicoclub.com/hp-with-b...sr-t59344.html Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

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derass Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 33 Posts: 1,182 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	First result from Google, 220whp: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=247317

11-17-2016, 09:58 PM	#12
Jorgs_7 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Plymouth MN Posts: 406 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	GT28 CodyAce manifold w/external w.g. JWT S4 cams 3" FMIC 850cc injectors / WB255 MAP based standalone EMS 3" intake/exhaust Some MLS head gasket /best SR set up ever 350 WHP - 400 WHP

11-18-2016, 07:35 AM	#14
jedi03 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: albuquerque Posts: 1,784 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I would guess about 4k as long as you do the work...used parts would save some money

11-19-2016, 11:24 AM	#16
jedi03 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: albuquerque Posts: 1,784 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	do the 28...you will be much happier

11-19-2016, 12:37 PM	#17
gaz_moose Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: engerland Posts: 242 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would just fit, FMIC free flow exhaust air filter T28 off an s14 (a lot of import s14 and s15's came with BB t28's) uprated fuel pump 1 bar of boost some kind of ecu chip 98 ron ++++ fuel that should see you at about 280hp which is the limit of the AFM and injectors. a Z32 AFM and some s15 injectors and a gt28rs aka disco potato would see you at 250hp but you may aswell stick some 740's and a gt2871r or a gtx2867r and be near 400hp. a stock unopened SR will take 400hp providing its not knackered before you bolt it all on.