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janko · 05-19-2005, 11:35 AM

I can get the car for $2500. 97' / 78K / perfect interior

Ritz S14 · 05-19-2005, 11:38 AM

No, to fix that, it would cost probably 3-4k.

Yoshi · 05-19-2005, 11:39 AM

did someone back into something, or get slammed?

if you can have a shop verify that hte frame is str8, then ya, I'd rock it for a project car, if not, stay FAR away.

i'm betting it has frame damage, but it's pretty hard to tell from the pix.

janko · 05-19-2005, 11:42 AM

The guy said that the frame was straight. He said the car was hit from the right rear above the bumper rienforcement.

Yoshi · 05-19-2005, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janko

The guy said that the frame was straight.

well then it LOOKS (keyword), like you'll just need a new bumper, tail light, and a crapload of bodywork.

If you have a hookup w/a body shop it may be worth it.
Smog is right tho, the dollar value attached to a "like new-ish" repair job will be considerable...

Salvage title?

janko · 05-19-2005, 11:45 AM

I verified the title today. Clean and no history of accidents. This will be a project car BTW. I've already got an '03 Spec-V.

Ian · 05-19-2005, 11:55 AM

id say the 1/4 panel=1000
rear bumper=400
trunk=250
taillights=150

so...1800-2000 to repair that *IF* there is no frame damage

Ritz S14 · 05-19-2005, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainevent212

id say the 1/4 panel=1000
rear bumper=400
trunk=250
taillights=150

so...1800-2000 to repair that *IF* there is no frame damage

What about paint? labor?

drew935 · 05-19-2005, 12:07 PM

only buy it, if it has been verified by a body shop that it has no frame damage. Better to be sure than arsed out...imo

janko · 05-19-2005, 12:11 PM

Yeah, well the only thing is that it is about 3 hours away. I am in the Navy so finding a free day to go down there just to have it checked out isn't really feasible. I sent the picture to a body shop here in town and they were talking about possible frame / rail / floor damage. None of which sounds cheap to fix. I told the guy I am going to pass on it unless he wants to come down a considerable amount on the price and even then I still might not bother with it.

sblack13 · 05-19-2005, 12:47 PM

I would say its not worth it to fix it, look at that quarter panel. I've done quarter panel body work and that is an assload of work, that will not be cheap to fix. You'll prolly end up dead even on the price your gonna pay to have it fixed, rather than buy a good one in exellent condition.

janko · 05-19-2005, 01:31 PM

the guy just emailed me back telling me that the rails on the chasis are not bent and he can have it all repaired for $2200. I still doesn't sound right though.

MakotoS13 · 05-19-2005, 02:00 PM

sounds fishy.

atom · 05-19-2005, 02:06 PM

Personally I'd never buy a car with rear 1/4 damage, even as a project car.

janko · 05-19-2005, 02:12 PM

Yeah, i've just started getting into cars in the past 6 months., Obviously there is a lot I don't know. Stupidly I bid on the car on eBay a few days ago and won the auction for $2500. I was going to buy it until I found all this out. The description made it sound like an easy and inexpensive fix which is why I don't feel as bad about backing out. The guy is trying to pull the legally binding contract thing on me but I know how easy it to realist something and sell it to someone else.

sepulchral · 05-19-2005, 02:54 PM

offer 1800 take it or leave it

TwoFourO · 05-19-2005, 03:14 PM

If its a project car and the frame is strait then its an awesome deal. You can fix all that crap yourself with ebay parts and some learning experiences for much cheaper than it would cost to buy a decent condition 97 s14. I say go for it and do all the work yourself. It's really not HARD, it's just laborous and time consuming. Don't be a panzy, pull a Macgyver!

janko · 05-19-2005, 03:27 PM

I've never even dealt w/ body work. I guess I could learn. I doubt I would mess with the quarter panel. I would have someone else do that.

projectRDM · 05-19-2005, 04:34 PM

$1500 and part it. But that's still paying high.

Var · 05-19-2005, 05:15 PM

not a penny more than 1500 for it. I'd pay 1700 if it had 5 lug. Both prices assuming no frame damage w/ 5 speed tranny

infinitexsound · 05-20-2005, 07:10 PM

blah............. go get a quote from a bodyshop........ id buy it for that much... if the quote is reasonable...... and if it is reasonable.... tell the dude to knock the price down... even more..

***S14DB*** · 05-20-2005, 09:05 PM

once that trunk floor ripples it's a biatch to get straight and level. There is alot of labor to get the rearend and trunk inline.

infinitexsound · 05-21-2005, 01:07 AM

some pulls some heating some measuring... some new panels a spotweld driller... a welder..... some seam weld.. some undercoat spray.. an i-car splice some bondo some primer some paint... voila new qp...

TheSnail · 05-21-2005, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atom

Personally I'd never buy a car with rear 1/4 damage, even as a project car.

Same here.

Why not get a hela clean blown motor s13 chassis for 1000-1500$ and spend the rest on making it very quick rather then repairing that car to a stock 240? If you want a 97 get a clean one in auto and swap it 5spd for less. You would have your 97 with out the stress.

janko · 05-21-2005, 02:57 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4551535748

Mine now. That price included shipping from SC to NY. Great body and interior.

infinitexsound · 05-21-2005, 03:33 AM

sweet what ever u do dont swap it for a sr.. just go 16v if u wanna swap... clean enough car doesnt look like it was in a collision...very good buy

Drunk Bastard · 05-21-2005, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westboroughpimp

not a penny more than 1500 for it. I'd pay 1700 if it had 5 lug. Both prices assuming no frame damage w/ 5 speed tranny

has the se wheels...

janko · 05-21-2005, 03:54 AM

Quote:

sweet what ever u do dont swap it for a sr.. just go 16v if u wanna swap... clean enough car doesnt look like it was in a collision...very good buy

So whats wrong with the SR? That is what I planning on doing... I don't see the point of a KA24DET. Enlighten me...

jdm538 · 05-21-2005, 04:34 AM

im sorry man but that is not a good deal, just buy yourself a running car.

infinitexsound · 05-21-2005, 04:40 AM

truthfully my opinion.... is that i am one of those who dont like downtime at all.. and if it comes to something simple i need to order to fix my car, if it involves ordering parts from a .com shop.. then i say no... reason why i wanna stick with the ka is that u can easily go to a parts store down the street and order the part right there... and get it right then... plus hp difference less money more hp and torque its been proven already lots of ppl know..ppl have been running ka's for ever.. very good durable engine if u ask me and theres no need to switch unless u want a rev happy motor..PLUS everyone knows the ka is the new SR...u could even source a z18et head and turbo parts setup direct drop for the 12 valve..

05-19-2005, 11:35 AM	#1
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Should I get it? I can get the car for $2500. 97' / 78K / perfect interior

05-19-2005, 11:39 AM	#3
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 44 Posts: 3,000 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	did someone back into something, or get slammed? if you can have a shop verify that hte frame is str8, then ya, I'd rock it for a project car, if not, stay FAR away. i'm betting it has frame damage, but it's pretty hard to tell from the pix. __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

05-19-2005, 12:07 PM	#9
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 996 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	only buy it, if it has been verified by a body shop that it has no frame damage. Better to be sure than arsed out...imo __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

05-19-2005, 03:27 PM	#18
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've never even dealt w/ body work. I guess I could learn. I doubt I would mess with the quarter panel. I would have someone else do that. __________________ '92 G20 '96 240sx

05-19-2005, 04:34 PM	#19
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	$1500 and part it. But that's still paying high. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

05-19-2005, 11:38 AM	#2
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 39 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No, to fix that, it would cost probably 3-4k.

05-19-2005, 11:42 AM	#4
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The guy said that the frame was straight. He said the car was hit from the right rear above the bumper rienforcement.

05-19-2005, 11:45 AM	#6
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I verified the title today. Clean and no history of accidents. This will be a project car BTW. I've already got an '03 Spec-V.

05-19-2005, 12:11 PM	#10
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, well the only thing is that it is about 3 hours away. I am in the Navy so finding a free day to go down there just to have it checked out isn't really feasible. I sent the picture to a body shop here in town and they were talking about possible frame / rail / floor damage. None of which sounds cheap to fix. I told the guy I am going to pass on it unless he wants to come down a considerable amount on the price and even then I still might not bother with it.

05-19-2005, 12:47 PM	#11
sblack13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 34 Posts: 1,016 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I would say its not worth it to fix it, look at that quarter panel. I've done quarter panel body work and that is an assload of work, that will not be cheap to fix. You'll prolly end up dead even on the price your gonna pay to have it fixed, rather than buy a good one in exellent condition.

05-19-2005, 01:31 PM	#12
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the guy just emailed me back telling me that the rails on the chasis are not bent and he can have it all repaired for $2200. I still doesn't sound right though.

05-19-2005, 02:00 PM	#13
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sounds fishy.

05-19-2005, 02:06 PM	#14
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Personally I'd never buy a car with rear 1/4 damage, even as a project car.

05-19-2005, 02:12 PM	#15
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, i've just started getting into cars in the past 6 months., Obviously there is a lot I don't know. Stupidly I bid on the car on eBay a few days ago and won the auction for $2500. I was going to buy it until I found all this out. The description made it sound like an easy and inexpensive fix which is why I don't feel as bad about backing out. The guy is trying to pull the legally binding contract thing on me but I know how easy it to realist something and sell it to someone else.

05-19-2005, 02:54 PM	#16
sepulchral BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlothian. VA Posts: 2,050 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	offer 1800 take it or leave it

05-19-2005, 03:14 PM	#17
TwoFourO Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If its a project car and the frame is strait then its an awesome deal. You can fix all that crap yourself with ebay parts and some learning experiences for much cheaper than it would cost to buy a decent condition 97 s14. I say go for it and do all the work yourself. It's really not HARD, it's just laborous and time consuming. Don't be a panzy, pull a Macgyver!

05-19-2005, 05:15 PM	#20
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 39 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not a penny more than 1500 for it. I'd pay 1700 if it had 5 lug. Both prices assuming no frame damage w/ 5 speed tranny __________________ Hi

05-20-2005, 07:10 PM	#21
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	blah............. go get a quote from a bodyshop........ id buy it for that much... if the quote is reasonable...... and if it is reasonable.... tell the dude to knock the price down... even more.. __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

05-20-2005, 09:05 PM	#22
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	once that trunk floor ripples it's a biatch to get straight and level. There is alot of labor to get the rearend and trunk inline.

05-21-2005, 01:07 AM	#23
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	some pulls some heating some measuring... some new panels a spotweld driller... a welder..... some seam weld.. some undercoat spray.. an i-car splice some bondo some primer some paint... voila new qp... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

05-21-2005, 02:57 AM	#25
janko Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4551535748 Mine now. That price included shipping from SC to NY. Great body and interior. __________________ '92 G20 '96 240sx

05-21-2005, 03:33 AM	#26
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sweet what ever u do dont swap it for a sr.. just go 16v if u wanna swap... clean enough car doesnt look like it was in a collision...very good buy __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

05-21-2005, 04:34 AM	#29
jdm538 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: LA/OC SOCAL Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (30) Feedback Score: 30 reviews	im sorry man but that is not a good deal, just buy yourself a running car.

05-21-2005, 04:40 AM	#30
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	truthfully my opinion.... is that i am one of those who dont like downtime at all.. and if it comes to something simple i need to order to fix my car, if it involves ordering parts from a .com shop.. then i say no... reason why i wanna stick with the ka is that u can easily go to a parts store down the street and order the part right there... and get it right then... plus hp difference less money more hp and torque its been proven already lots of ppl know..ppl have been running ka's for ever.. very good durable engine if u ask me and theres no need to switch unless u want a rev happy motor..PLUS everyone knows the ka is the new SR...u could even source a z18et head and turbo parts setup direct drop for the 12 valve.. __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

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