Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Go Back   Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum > General > Tech Talk > S Chassis

S Chassis Technical discussion related to the S Chassis such as the S12, S13, S14, and S15.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-27-2011, 02:58 PM   #1
lbs_ft
Zilvia Member
 
lbs_ft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VA
Posts: 212
Trader Rating: (14)
lbs_ft is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 14 reviews
s13 Rack And Pinion - Need To Replace? How Soon?

So I've been losing P/S fluid (A/T fluid, but I'll refer to it from here on out as P/S fluid) slowly but surely for a while now, but it's hot as hell out, so I took my time looking for the culprit.

After doing some investigating one evening, I realized that the driver's side rack and pinion boot was ripped. Passenger side is perfectly fine but the driver's side is in 2 distinct pieces. I know that if it gets to the point where it leaks P/S fluid from the boot, you need to replace either a seal or the whole rack and pinion, but - again - it's hotter than you can imagine and crawling around under a flaming hot car on the baking hot asphalt is not something I want to do if I can avoid it.

BUT - it's been a week since I noticed the initial leak, and it wasn't that bad then, and that leak is literally blasting the asphalt with piss (fluid) now, especially on tight right turns. You can see where I turn into my parking spot everyday because of the P/S stains. I go through about a quart a week, no joke. What in God's name did I do to deserve this?

Bought a replacement boot, but I'm pretty sure if I just toss this boot on, it won't magically hermetically seal the rack and pinion and stop the leak like woah. I mean, its a rubber boot and a ziptie.

Do I need to replace a bushing or scrap the whole thing and replace it at this point?

And here's the million dollar question:

What would happen if I didn't?
What would happen if I tossed this new boot on and called it a day?
Any detrimental effects of not replacing the rack/bushing?

I was planning on swapping in a HICAS rack in the winter, think I can make it till then?

I can answer any and all questions to the best of my abilities. And to clarify, I'm not a newbie moron jackass special-needs time bomb, I'm just wondering, so keep your opinion of me to yourself. If need be, I can replace the bushing or the whole rack, I just really don't want to yet. So what would happen if I didn't? Because I really can justify spending the money for P/S fluid until winter if it means I don't have to die from heat exhaustion.

Thanks in advance!
lbs_ft is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 07-27-2011, 03:08 PM   #2
S14DB
AFC #1
 
S14DB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家
Posts: 20,181
Trader Rating: (3)
S14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
When you rip a boot dirt gets on the rack and then gets dragged across the seal ripping it. Then you start pissing out fluid.

You should only need to pull that seal and clean up the rack to make sure it's clean.
__________________
Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact
S14DB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 03:13 PM   #3
lbs_ft
Zilvia Member
 
lbs_ft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VA
Posts: 212
Trader Rating: (14)
lbs_ft is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 14 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by S14DB View Post
When you rip a boot dirt gets on the rack and then gets dragged across the seal ripping it. Then you start pissing out fluid.

You should only need to pull that seal and clean up the rack to make sure it's clean.
You are a live-saver and a God-send sir. Drinks on me when you're in the 757.

Not to sound greedy or ungrateful, but is there any way you could tell me how to check/replace said seal? Or point me in the direction I need to look? I'm all up on Google, Zilvia, and a bunch of other forums searching.
lbs_ft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 03:12 PM   #4
Mikey McFly
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego
Age: 33
Posts: 434
Trader Rating: (4)
Mikey McFly is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
Or just swap it out for a HICAS rack and pinion, if you don't already have it.
Mikey McFly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 03:18 PM   #5
S14DB
AFC #1
 
S14DB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家
Posts: 20,181
Trader Rating: (3)
S14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfectionS14DB is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Download a FSM PDF off "the web". Should be in the Steering System(ST) section. May not be something you want to tackle and just get a rebuilt unit.
__________________
Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact
S14DB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 03:23 PM   #6
lbs_ft
Zilvia Member
 
lbs_ft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VA
Posts: 212
Trader Rating: (14)
lbs_ft is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 14 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by S14DB View Post
Download a FSM PDF off "the web". Should be in the Steering System(ST) section. May not be something you want to tackle and just get a rebuilt unit.
Alright, got it. Here's a screenshot of the exploded view of the rack and pinion:



The part is question, is it the end cover assembly or the rack oil seal?

And do I have to pull the rack and pinion to replace it?
lbs_ft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 12:49 PM   #7
VinceDude
Zilvia Member
 
VinceDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Vegas
Age: 29
Posts: 293
Trader Rating: (5)
VinceDude is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by lbs_ft View Post
Alright, got it. Here's a screenshot of the exploded view of the rack and pinion:



The part is question, is it the end cover assembly or the rack oil seal?

And do I have to pull the rack and pinion to replace it?
do i need that rear housing cover in between the rear housing assembly and the steering column? Mine is cracked and fell apart.
VinceDude is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Copyright © 1998 - 2019, Zilvia.net™