Future240

Neg repping in this thread is a hoe move. Loud noises is specifically for people to talk about controversial topics where you can "shout" at each other.

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flartius

I know it is old news but this article make me think about this comment from a few days ago. Questions 5 - 10 is why I think the FBI is a hack and playing partisan politics both for and against President Trump.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ey_136825.html

Another article talking about Comey's partisan politics:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...erview-mistake

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gbaby2089

Maybe not wrong. sup exitspeed.

Comey is a weird case. He's a lifelong Republican, undermined Mrs. Clinton's campaign & the like....but also has a moral issue with DJT.

The FBI is not the friend of liberals.
The FBI is not the friend of Trump (though I'd wager they do lean a bit conservative, less so though than local cops...which don't so much lean conservative as fall over to the right).

I don't want a conservative or liberal FBI. I want a FBI willing to investigate anyone who has done wrong. They do the job better than most government agencies do theirs.

SimpleS14

The Republican House chairmen are at it again (i.e. Devin Nunes). This time they want Rod Rosenstein to hand over Comey's memos unredacted. The problem with that is that these memos are evidence in an active FBI investigation, which DOJ does not willingly share. If Rosenstein refuses it can set up the precedent for him to get fired. If he complies, it could set him up for conduct violations...thus setting him up to get fired.

As for the US attorney office in SDNY, the interim AG (handpicked & interviewed by Trump) had to recuse himself from the Cohen investigation. His interim status will expire in a few weeks. At that point he is either formally nominated for Senate confirmation or replaced by another nominee. We already know how Trump feels about Session's recusal, so it probably won't be different from this recusal as well.

Also the Senate leader confirmed he will not bring to the floor a bill to protect Mueller.

I'm really curious to see how all of this plays out.


I agree. One on hand he raises some interesting thoughts, but on the other he gets real petty and interjects into politics. Also as a witness in an active investigation, you would think he would not go HAM on the media blitz spilling the tea to sell his book too.

In relation to Cohen's investigation and adding for anyone interested...

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Phlip

I told you to give President Putin my best.
You didn't respond.

Also, your insistence on stoking political conversation, and then shying away from political conversation when it differs from what you personally believe in is fuckshit.
See: Killer Mike, the NRA, Trump, Putin, any hotbutton GOP issue, "I am not my party" while towing the party line and anything else you've been guilty of. If you don't want a political conversation, stop starting political conversations,
It is not terribly dissimilar from "I have a 'black friend, I will tag him in the comments under this video of 8 year-old using the n-word" on FB. Now please tell me how you left FB because you were tired of political conversations in the midst of a political conversation ON THIS FORUM that you keep coming back to.
I love the "... well I don't agree with everything..." disclaimer that allows one to continue to straddle the lines as convenient, but I am personally tired of this shit. If you cannot be honest and fully candid about why you support your president, then I suggest that you simply keep quiet about supporting him.
And before you hit me with the "lol, you libtards are such snowflakes," let us not forget that we both have children and one of our kids will need attention beyond what either of our tax brackets might ever comfortably ever afford. Let us not forget that ONE of us supports a president hell bent on appointing staff who support the opposite of what the departments they head are about. To that end, health and human services is the most important. Let us not forget that apparently "grabbig bitches by the pussy" is no big deal to a father of a daughter, that apparently tweeting policy decisions to the horror of senior staff duty-bound to lie about it when business hours commence is okay, that bold-face LYING IN THE FACE OF COMMON FUCKING SENSE is cool as long as "Obama lied too," or "at least it ain't Hillary."
Basically, saying that political fuckedupptitude is more than okay as long as it is the kind that makes one feel better about their own political ideology is cool. I mean, as long as you can text a picture in front of Trump Tower to someone you think will see the joke hidden DEEP underneath said picture.
Fuck your president. He is not here for me, my child or anyone who looks like us. What is most funny is that he is not here for your child either, but because he IS here for people who look like you, you're missing it.
But hey, make america great again by any means necessary, right? Fuck anyone who doesn't get to play along.

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exitspeed

Damn homie.

Yeah I’m bowing out. You guys are too black and white and can’t see past it. It’s just not worth raising my blood pressure over.

Also I’ve never called anyone a libtard or disrespected anyone.

Done. 100%.

PS: I’ll also no longer text you anything political. We can just talk a out wings, cats and music. Or not.

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RalliartRsX

Thank you Phlip. Well said

So has trump tweeted about the TN shooter being a racist terrorist yet?? Oh wait, he is white so..........

P.S trump has yet to thank the brave soul who single handedly disarmed the shooter. Since he wont, I will call out his name here

James Shaw Jr. Thank you sir.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/22/us/wa...see/index.html

RalliartRsX

Remember when Obama was required to give up his personal cell phone?? Or when trump and his supporters screamed about HRC's server??

Oh, right. Double standard as always.

Trump ramps up personal cell phone use

So now, the president is an actual security risk..........wow! The idea of trying to hide a convo with your own Chief of Staff, while now having detailed discussions over a seemingly unsecure airwave.........How incompetent and childish can one get??

The president better watch out........Obama may be in the microwave taking nudes of trump........(I sure as hell hope someone gets this reference hahahaha!)

Phlip

So you've changed your mind from your prior statement about how you "love calling millennials snowflakes?"
Heard that before
I was cool with alternative subjects. Please note how I avoid starting certain conversations, but don't get that same response?
I am telling you the shit was never funny

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gbaby2089

In Trump's mind there weren't 'very fine people on both sides"

SimpleS14

The Fox & Friends phone interview this morning left me with a mixed of reaction of shock and great interest. He was quite unhinged IMO.

I'm looking forward to the legal ramifications that might come out of it. Prosecutors in SDNY are already planning to use some of his statements in their hearing today.

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RalliartRsX

If his followers haven't started to question their almighty, there is no changing their minds at this point unfortunately. That ship has long sailed......

Eg: How can a person of God, be so adamant that someone who cheated on his current wife with a porn star (while his wife was pregnant), who he inevitably paid off, still be their man, then its 100% lost cause. Ad yet, they cannot see the hypocrisy. Unreal.

P.S Fox News is still bringing up HRC's emails........1.5 years later. What else do they have to argue bout??

Phlip

I can think of one Trump Supporter who is probably STOKED to have Kanye West as a favorite rapper again, lol

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tlieberman240

CNN, The View, Huffington Post, etc etc etc etc etc are all still going on about Russian collusion.... 1.5 years later as well. I've still yet to see anything really come of it.

I wasn't particularly a Trump fan/supporter. Still not. But I can't deny there's been some things he's done in office that I'm a fan of; some others, not so much.

Definitely would prefer him over HRC though. That bitch actually needs to disappear forever. She's the perfect example of everything that's wrong with the government in this country.

I'm honestly just getting tired of hearing people bitch and moan all the time. Most people are just angry because they've been told to be. They don't really have a clue wtf is going on.

People have become so polarized in their views. There used to be a spectrum when it came to political preferences. Far left, left-centered, centered, right-centered, far right etc. Now, so many people (of both "sides") have this "you're with us or against us" mentality. Pretty shitty, honestly.

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RalliartRsX

Can I ask you this; what has HRC done to make you hate her so much?? And please cite your sources

Also, can you cite all the great things trump has done??

Serious questions and not trying to be divisive. I really do truly want to know why HRC is so hated and why trump gets your support. The last trump supporter I asked these questions decided to stop posting and never bothered to answer either of those questions and reverted to talking about an entirely unrelated topic.

tlieberman240

First off; I said I wasn’t a trump supporter and didn’t vote for him, and am still not really a big fan. However, I’m not so blind to recognize that while I may not agree with a president in office on a lot of things, there are some actions that I may agree with. The same true with Obama; wasn’t really a fan, though over the 8 years he was in office, there were a few things he did that I liked... a few.

So if you’re going to ask questions in response to what I said, at least ensure that you’re recognizing what I actually said.

With HRC, the lies, corruption, hypocrisy, and divisiveness her actions/statements etc over the years have lead me to despise her. As far as I’m concerned, anybody who has made a career or massive ortune from politics needs to gtfo.

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RalliartRsX

Ok. EDIT: Ok, not a trump supporter. Fine. I am not gong to argue your support. However, the main point of my post is below....

But can you elaborate on the above?? Can you elaborate on the lies, divisiveness, hypocrisy, etc?? Can you point me in proper cases where this is true?? Not saying she is not, but I would like ot see how someone who has come to loath HRC, how they came to that conclusion. As I asked, please cite your sources and reason to substantiate why you came to that conclusion.

Time and time again I have asked this questions to folks, and the answer 98% of the time is "I just hate her......"

Also, again I will ask; can you please lay out what trump has done with office that you agree with??

tlieberman240

There is no defensiveness. I’m simply saying that if you’re going to ask questions, ask the right question. What’s more, you immediately go and state, “you just lumped yourself into the trump supporter category”, which comes off as a derogatory comment in that context.

As far as cites and sources go for HRC and Trump, I will do so tonight as I’m about to leave for work now.

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RalliartRsX

tlieberman240 my apologies. I will walk back my statement. No problem.

My two questions still apply. Thanks for taking the time. It's just very difficult to get a straight answer from folks outside of Fox News talking points unfortunately

SimpleS14

It will be difficult (IMO) to get that on most online forums. You might get a better idea from in-person interactions, but even then, thats hard to come by without someone getting heated or upset.

I think the hate for HRC stems from the actions she has taken over the decades, which were stepping outside of the social norms of what a woman was suppose to do. IMO it starts as far back as 1969 with her Wellesley commencement speech which put her on the national spotlight (more info). Also she's rather cold, calculated and sometimes abrasive in her approach, which I completely understand, but this is outside the expectation that she is suppose to be. I can also see how people view her as lacking "emotion", "heart" or "compassion" for others, which further adds onto the hate.

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gbaby2089

I disagree with a lot of HRC's politics, she's much too conservative for my tastes.

But divisive is the last word I'd use to describe her, at least her directly. What's divisive is how she's portrayed in the media.

Also, the media is still investigating Russian collusion because where there is smoke stack's worth of smoke, there's probably fire. Totally normal for the president to fire the guy charged with investigating him.

RalliartRsX

This right here sums it up very well. Apply to same characteristics to a man, and he is calculated, beast and goal oriented. HRC broke a fair amount of glass ceilings in her time. I have seen her work through the Clinton foundation and at State Department and she is Very capable.

Now, do I agree with some of her social/personal characteristics?? Not necessarily. But to run a country and churn the economy, foreign policy and keep us in the positive and keep her hands off the big red button, she is stellar at doing this and her record shows.

It's tough to separate the two items however........in addition to "Go make me a sammmwich WOMAN!" mentality most people expect.

P.S Within hours of trump pulling us from the Nuclear deal, Israeli forces sent missiles and blew up a strategic compound in Iran. trump didn't read a single sentence, work or letter from the deal........And now, Iran is simply just going to side with the EU. Good way to bread more hate for America and more terrorist which feed of this inherent hatred for the west.

Good work trump and your band of cronies. Good work........

SimpleS14

So far the reporting I'm seeing says it's an Iranian compound in Syria (info). It's probably related to this: https://twitter.com/LizSly/status/993926228942970882

Either way, this is very troubling and could lead to multiple conflicts (economically, diplomatically and militarily) with other nations, even US allies.

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RalliartRsX

I cannot access twitter from work, so I assume we are on the same topic. Compound is in Damascus (Syria). Thanks for updating.

This would potentially bring up multiple conflicts of interest between the US and the EU........which is one in a long line of many potential conflicts as you mentioned for example. The US would (literally) have to go to war, to prevent an actual War.

Yep, goodwork trumpies.

feito

U mean like the war he started with NK?

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RalliartRsX

Could you kindly elaborate if you are not being sarcastic?? Legitimate question here.

Phlip

This...
What rubs me wrong with her is that she is a fucking panderer.

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supersayianjim

I have a question, if trump is a bad guy for fucking stormy?

isn't stormy a whore for fucking a married man?

yet the left celebrates a homewrecker like she is a legend or something?

I was on a porn site the other day, and she was in an ad, topless with her old saggy tits.

so he fucked a whore? big deal..

the dems have been destroying family values with pushing

--the gay agenda
-welfare(taking the father out of the home)
--male emasculation
--and this me too non-sense


oh, and p.s. I'm a blk guy who voted for trump, aside from him sucking bibi's dick he is still an alpha male and apparently a threat to feminist soy boys!!

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VNG704

He's not a bad guy for doing stormy. He's bad guy that did stormy. Also, I must've missed how she's celebrated as any legend, or at all. The Donald's def not what I would consider alpha either, but that's just my own opinion apparently.